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[QUOTE=TheBarbarian;3594132]But Jm. Much respect to your seniority but I'm not tipping a legitimate masseuse, esp. For a mediocre massage. I tip for extras. I paid for what I got which was listed on their site / ad.[/QUOTE]Of course you should tip a legitimate masseuse. Don't you tip your barber?
FF is definitely legit. When did they start offering showers?
Jm,
I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a little reconnaissance on if a place is legit or not. Prior to my post, I didn't find any info on FF, so I checked the place. That's WTF I was doing. So, this was not an issue of failing to use the forum effectively to find spots that offer what I was looking for, rather than me trying to find a new spot that probably hadn't been discover yet and / or mentioned.
Now, is it my lack of tipping that disgusts you? Tough tit! I'm not concerned with rationalizing or justifying any decision I make in this case.
And because my choice not tip, doesn't concern the market of AMPs, escorts, or the hobby in general and a whole. Why are we discussing my personal etiquette.
Now, if you want to go ahead and say I'm a dirtbag customer (which I may be in this case), fine be my guest, I just came here to receive and report back to the community.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3594636]Ok, if you only tip for extras then WTF are you doing walking into a spa where you have no idea if extras are even available? To go back to my earlier example, if you're only willing to tip when a restaurant serves you steak then why would you walk into a place without knowing whether steak was actually available? It's not like there's a lack of info about HE joints, right? A quick search of the forum leads to multiple options in multiple locations.
So the plain fact is that you walked into a legit spa, received a 90 min legit massage, and then refused to leave any tip at all. Even accepting the massage was mediocre, you could (and should) have left something, if not 20%. To leave nothing at all is, from any angle I can see, the mark of a deadbeat customer. You can try to justify and rationalize anyway you want but the truth of the matter is you refused to tip after receiving a service for which gratuities are customarily expected and paid. And any misunderstanding about the extra level of service you expected to receive was 100% on you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nyhornet;3594703]Of course you should tip a legitimate masseuse. Don't you tip your barber?[/QUOTE]Agree. Here is a site that talks all about it: [URL]http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/290794.page[/URL].
[QUOTE=MrSunnyHills;3594931]Agree. Here is a site that talks all about it: [URL]http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/290794.page[/URL].[/QUOTE]No offense but didn't find that site particularly helpful. It's basically a bunch of anonymous posters with opinions all over the map. One poster said they tipped $1 per minute for a massage, which is extremely high.
I found this site to be short, sweet and to the point:
[URL]http://emilypost.com/advice/general-tipping-guide/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3594943]No offense but didn't find that site particularly helpful. It's basically a bunch of anonymous posters with opinions all over the map. One poster said they tipped $1 per minute for a massage, which is extremely high.
I found this site to be short, sweet and to the point:
[URL]http://emilypost.com/advice/general-tipping-guide/[/URL][/QUOTE]Last time I went to the spa at my Vegas hotel, I wanted to make sure my tipping was in line with standards. The woman working the counter said they see a wide variance, typically 15%, up to 25% for some of the more generous customers. Many of these positions are paid based on the expectation that the provider will be tipped based on standards for the industry. You should never feel obligated to tip if the service provided was terrible.
Happy Monday, folks!
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PB.
So I visited my favorite spot and Angel to find she is in such hi demand that no time was available until 3 hrs in the future; which unfortunately for me was not an option.
Popped around the corner to the Pinetree Spa. Met by a 50 ish tiny and not too well worn women. Asked if she was the only one and she called to the back for her friend who was 40 ish but still not to my liking so I left.
On to Garden Spa a couple of doors down.
Met by another 50 ish who brought out a 35-45 lady. Pleasing enough but not an Angel. Decided WTF I'm here.
TS was decent with all the right attention to all the right spots.
Her name I think was Cindy but not 1000% sure on that.
5'3" from Korea probably 110 lbs not a spinner B+ C- not a bad bod but again no Angel.
Massage is decent 10 min into it she has everything off. I'm still face down.
Some DATY and she give BBBJ followed by P2 P. No full service and she doesn't want FIV.
All in all not a bad experience. Won't repeat, but she had a good attitude.
Just no chemistry for me.
Usually takes 3-4 visits to get that far so it was a nice surprise.
Sad that I now have to call ahead for Coco, she is still the No 1 go to.
Be Safe.
P6.
First, I tip everyone who's supposed to get a tip and who puts in the effort, including the girl who washes my hair, the guy who brings my food to the door, etc.
If I've paid $50 for a legit massage, and it wasn't very good, I've already paid enough and won't tip. If the masseuse asks what I like, pays attention to what I say about where I need work, responds to my reactions with harder or lighter pressure, etc. , then I'll tip. If it's just a rote, by the numbers massage, with no attempt to personalize it, what is the tip for?
Same with a haircut. If I don't like what I see in the mirror, and the barber did a half-assed job, what's the tip for? If it's bad enough, I'll even refuse to pay. That's only happened once, LOL.
[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;3595462]First, I tip everyone who's supposed to get a tip and who puts in the effort, including the girl who washes my hair, the guy who brings my food to the door, etc.
If I've paid $50 for a legit massage, and it wasn't very good, I've already paid enough and won't tip. If the masseuse asks what I like, pays attention to what I say about where I need work, responds to my reactions with harder or lighter pressure, etc. , then I'll tip. If it's just a rote, by the numbers massage, with no attempt to personalize it, what is the tip for?
Same with a haircut. If I don't like what I see in the mirror, and the barber did a half-assed job, what's the tip for? If it's bad enough, I'll even refuse to pay. That's only happened once, LOL.[/QUOTE]Agreed. It shouldn't be automatic either way, tip vs no tip. And my issue with the poster who began this discussion is that he seems to have an automatic "no tip" rule for any legit massage, regardless of effort or quality.
If a massage is really bad, or if the masseuse is rude or has a bad attitude, I absolutely understand not leaving a tip. But, if that was the case, it should be pretty obvious by the time an hour has passed. Extending the session to 90 minutes is a pretty good indication that the massage didn't completely suck. Under those circumstances it's pretty hard to justify leaving nothing, IMHO.
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[QUOTE=HiNMitey;3594822]FF is definitely legit. When did they start offering showers?[/QUOTE]They probably do the Chinese table shampoo.
So, last week I finished work a little early and decided to head out to relax a bit. My first stop was Miko's, but there was a guy in a car parked directly across from the door messing with his phone. He could have just been waiting and playing games on his phone, or he could have been recording for some purpose, either way it creeped me out so I decided to try my luck with Smile around the corner. Unfortunately, when I parked I had just enough time to see another monger walk up to the door and after an extended conversation get let in. I figured they were probably busy and decided to head out and try something new (to me).
I looked through some ads to find something relatively close and decided to head a little ways out west. [URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/1-spa-1-massage-new-young-asian-staff-amazing/29020123[/URL] In the ad they don't mention any name, but when I showed up the sign above the door said Far East. I'd heard of them from before, but I'd never taken a trip so I thought why not. I opted for the hour and Mindy was my provider. TS was decent, and the massage was above average. She really dug into me, at some points I thought I might leave bruised. Next time I might ask her to ease up, at the end she said it'd make me taller, ha! Anyway, overall it was a good experience and I left feeling relaxed with the expected ending.
I'm not sure what to think about these relatively few places becoming so busy due to the lack of other quality options. I guess I'll just have to keep on exploring.
[QUOTE=Dvldwg;3596935]In the ad they don't mention any name, but when I showed up the sign above the door said Far East.[/QUOTE]I haven't been there since the name / management name. Thanks for the update.
[QUOTE=Dvldwg;3596935]I'm not sure what to think about these relatively few places becoming so busy due to the lack of other quality options.[/QUOTE]I didn't have any problem getting into Mikos til it started popping up here. And Smile as a spillover. Angel too. Going through the board, you see the same problem with places that get glowing reviews. They get over busy til it dies down.
[QUOTE=RubMeLongTime;3592393]Angel Coco OMG Mic Drop.
Nothing more to say.
Rub.[/QUOTE]To all of the long time mongers: this Coco at Angel Therapy is not the same Coco from several years ago that was at BKY Therapy in Annandale, is it? I know I dumped some good loads into Coco from BKY and she even invited me over to her apartment right off of 495 and Little River Tpke one time to have some fun.