"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2619877]I've always been impressed by the guys who have the guts to request or take photos of their babies and post them publicly, and even more impressed when the photos are of nudes and or action shots.

For those brothers who have taken pics of their babies, do you normally ask? Does it generate a larger allowance request? I'm big into quid pro quo, so have you had any babies asked for the same in return (e. G. Can I snap a pic of you), and if so, how do you handle that question after you just took a picture of her?[/QUOTE]I have nudes of pretty much every woman I've slept with. I usually don't ask for them until we've had sex at least a couple times so that there is some trust built. And I always promise that no one but me will see them, which is something I take seriously.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2620293]I have nudes of pretty much every woman I've slept with. I usually don't ask for them until we've had sex at least a couple times so that there is some trust built. And I always promise that no one but me will see them, which is something I take seriously.[/QUOTE]Exactly this. Unless she has given permission to share, they should not be shared. Not too far back in the thread, the legalities of sharing explicit pictures of third parties without their permission was briefly discussed. I will refrain from discussing what the law actually says about this in each state and how fast those laws are changing recently (due mostly because every time I bring legal facts to the table, someone starts asking whether I'm a lawyer or not), but I would encourage anyone to research recent changes that have come about (due primarily to revenge porn sites) regarding sharing sexually explicit photos of a third party without permission. The trend is not pretty.

That's just at a legal level. At a purely moral level, it's a shitty thing to do to betray someone's trust by posting pics of them they expected to be private. I do unto others, so if someone sends me a nude pic (as many girls do, even unrequested), I respect her privacy unless she specifically gives me permission to share it publicly over the Internet (I typically would not ask for that). I have had more than one case where someone posted (clothed) photos of me on their Facebook page, I asked them to remove and they did so. So, at least to date my do unto others strategy has worked well. That's not to say I haven't shared nude pics of SBs with friends I trust -- and I wouldn't mind if a girl did same with photos of me. I'm not a religious guy but I do believe in do unto others.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2620293]I have nudes of pretty much every woman I've slept with. I usually don't ask for them until we've had sex at least a couple times so that there is some trust built. And I always promise that no one but me will see them, which is something I take seriously.[/QUOTE]At least the ones I've seen in the last couple of years. It usually starts out with shots that don't show their face, but after a while it progresses from there. I have full-on blow job and fucking videos. It actually surprises me how little these younger babies seem to care about videos being made of them.

I like it though. A lot!

I like P.S. Shots -no faces or obvious identifying features on either side of the scrotum. All my girls are happy to "pose" -impaled as it were.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2620378]I like P.S. Shots -no faces or obvious identifying features on either side of the scrotum. All my girls are happy to "pose" -impaled as it were.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing a lot, if not most girls might not mind the type you're talking about being shared at all -- if they are okay with it and express that, then no problem. I've been asked to send pics of my cock, etc. Before, and if someone said "I want to send to my friend, okay with you" I'd probably say yeah no problem. But, if I saw the pic of my cock uploaded to some site that I didn't specifically give permission for, I'd feel backstabbed for her not asking me first.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2620419]I'm guessing a lot, if not most girls might not mind the type you're talking about being shared at all -- if they are okay with it and express that, then no problem. I've been asked to send pics of my cock, etc. Before, and if someone said "I want to send to my friend, okay with you" I'd probably say yeah no problem. But, if I saw the pic of my cock uploaded to some site that I didn't specifically give permission for, I'd feel backstabbed for her not asking me first.[/QUOTE]I'm not into sharing pics of my cock -particularly inside of an SB's pussy. They are just a remembrance of things past -and present.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2620486]I'm not into sharing pics of my cock -particularly inside of an SB's pussy. They are just a remembrance of things past -and present.[/QUOTE]I didn't really want to send her a pic of my cock either, to be honest, but it was a quid pro quo situation where she was sending me similar and I guess we got caught up in the newness of it all. I later thought about what a bad idea it is, not only because she now has a copy of this and if she turned out to be a wack job it might show up in places that I don't want it to (like revenge porn sites where she could tie it to my actual identity), but what if someone hacks my phone and then uploads the contents somewhere (perhaps even along with my identity) and the next thing you know I've got gay dudes, creepers, fat girls, etc. Looking at my wang.

I have not done this in a while and honestly I can go from now to the end without ever sending anyone another pic of my cock and I think I will feel better about it. Fun at the time but I guess I'll call it a case of BTDT from here.

[QUOTE=DogSun;2620293]I have nudes of pretty much every woman I've slept with. I usually don't ask for them until we've had sex at least a couple times so that there is some trust built. And I always promise that no one but me will see them, which is something I take seriously.[/QUOTE]When I read the posts about pics I'm always telling myself that I need to take pics. I always seem to forget. I was with my 22 yr old recent honors grad model (the one who I don't know what type of model she is). I could have gotten some great pics, but I never think about it.

The first was with a recent grad who went to the same university as the model baby I have. This was a first time FC setup, so the plan was to meet her at 12 noon and my model baby at 6 pm. I thought since I'm driving a long way that I'd kill two birds with one stone. It went well, but I don't think I'll put her in the lineup.

Met my 22 yr old model baby at 6 pm. Outstanding time, but realistically I don't know how long this can last on a regular basis by the sheer distance alone. Over time I think this turns out to be a one or two times per month meeting, which might be fine because I have a FC meeting today with another hot 23 yr old who is local to me.

Now this 23 yr old I'm meeting later today. Hot and slender just like my model baby. Plus she is local, so if she preforms well today, then she could make up for the lack of time seeing the model baby. It's not possible to have sex one or two times per month.

One thing I have to remember is to take pics. Probably won't ask today since it is the first FC meeting.

So if I could have these two in my rotation I should be good, but the problem is I've spread myself out kind of thin. I have still to meet the 19 yr old readhead and the 29 year old latino. If I have my model and my 23 yr old as keepers then I probably won't renew my account.

Ok, newbie in (British) town here. Following guidance from esteemed brothers in arms from across the pond, I have refused to pay those sweeties who ask for money just to turn up for a coffee. I have also been stood up a couple of times. I have, nevertheless, successfully persuaded a few lovelies to join me for a cordial coffee and a nice slice of cake. Now, a couple.

Of these have shown potential for further development and subsequent meetings have been mooted. However, both targets, although expressing a willingness to adjourn to a place of.

Privacy in due course, have said they would like to wait a few weeks while we "get to know each other". In the meantime they are happy to meet for meals, drinks or theatre visits, but are asking for payment on top of these expenses. I demurred, only to be informed that this was standard practice. Is it? Do you pay POT SBs for their attendance at "get to know you" meetings over a period of time with only a promise of joys to come?

[QUOTE=Pukkaghee;2621562]Ok, newbie in (British) town here. Following guidance from esteemed brothers in arms from across the pond, I have refused to pay those sweeties who ask for money just to turn up for a coffee. I have also been stood up a couple of times. I have, nevertheless, successfully persuaded a few lovelies to join me for a cordial coffee and a nice slice of cake. Now, a couple.

Of these have shown potential for further development and subsequent meetings have been mooted. However, both targets, although expressing a willingness to adjourn to a place of.

Privacy in due course, have said they would like to wait a few weeks while we "get to know each other". In the meantime they are happy to meet for meals, drinks or theatre visits, but are asking for payment on top of these expenses. I demurred, only to be informed that this was standard practice. Is it? Do you pay POT SBs for their attendance at "get to know you" meetings over a period of time with only a promise of joys to come?[/QUOTE]The golden rule is, "No sugar until the panties hit the floor". I'm more than happy to cover the expenses of "get to know each other" dates, but to add financial compensation to my date on top of the expenses of platonic dates is a terrible path to go down. Most girls who are trying to go out on paid platonic dates will vanish as soon as you start asking for more physical dates. Tell such prospects that you are don't give sugar until you get sugar because there are too many scammer girls out there.

Wonder if the brothers in Richmond are annoyed that their board is no longer local, but national, and now appears to be going international? Frankly, I think Richmond should be proud.

As for the golden rule. Fotoguy is spot on. Now I can't tell you how it was done 10 or 15 years ago, and I won't bore you with how I played the game when I was IRL / civvy dating since every male should have some idea of how that should go, but based on my more recent experience in playing in the bowl, even if the pots don't evaporate (as fotoguy pointed out many will), the allowance provided after a "get to know you" dinner date becomes the floor for any future FC date. At least where I play, very few pots will turn into babies and make it to the FC for an allowance that is less than what they'd get for a "get to know you" date.

In my opinion, another problem with giving in here is that depending on the circumstances, it has the potential to give off the appearance of weakness. And also comes with the potential of landing a SD into the friend zone. I've been there way to often in my youth, and have no interest in going back.

Of course with every rule comes exceptions. So for example, if every SD in your region is providing an allowance for an M&G date, then it may be the norm. Based on HWG's prior posts, I can tell you that there were some regional differences between how players play in the West Coast bowl vs. The East Coast bowl here in the US. Your the first post I've read from a Brit RE: sugar dating, and so you may want to check local boards for local custom. Of course if brothers in your region are paying for first dates, then you may want to start referring your UK counterparts to start reading the US boards for tips.

[QUOTE=Pukkaghee;2621562]Ok, newbie in (British) town here. Following guidance from esteemed brothers in arms from across the pond, I have refused to pay those sweeties who ask for money just to turn up for a coffee. I have also been stood up a couple of times. I have, nevertheless, successfully persuaded a few lovelies to join me for a cordial coffee and a nice slice of cake. Now, a couple.

Of these have shown potential for further development and subsequent meetings have been mooted. However, both targets, although expressing a willingness to adjourn to a place of.

Privacy in due course, have said they would like to wait a few weeks while we "get to know each other". In the meantime they are happy to meet for meals, drinks or theatre visits, but are asking for payment on top of these expenses. I demurred, only to be informed that this was standard practice. Is it? Do you pay POT SBs for their attendance at "get to know you" meetings over a period of time with only a promise of joys to come?[/QUOTE]

Did a M&G with one of the hottest pots that I've M&G'ed with. The interesting thing about the M&G was that it would not have happened had it not been for my persistence. Apparently, she had been getting so bombarded with messages that the only way she could keep up with them was by responding to those that were showing up on the screen at any given time when she was opening up the site from her mobile.

Guess the squeaky wheel got the grease this time. Plans for the FC are on for early next week.

Met with the 23 yr old yesterday afternoon and evening while I hosted. Had a good time. I like her demeanor for her age; Polite and easy to work with. Willing to please. I love that. She's in the rotation for sure. I'm planning on seeing her once per week. I know it must look like I say it a lot, but this one is hot too. Long blond hair 5'3" about 100 lbs very pretty.

Early in the day the 19 year old red head contacted me and wanted to meet at 9 pm. She's and hour and a half drive from me. I told her I'd text later in the day if I would be able to make it. I didn't bank on the 23 yr old staying with me at my home for as long as she did, but she and I were comfortable just hanging out. I then forgot to text the redhead, but she texted me at about 8:45 and said "I guess you're not coming". I texted back, to apologize, later after dropping off my new baby with no response. I don't know if I lost that one or not, but I'm not stressing over it, after being with this new one. We'll see.

I'm going to see my new one again today. I have to think of a name to identify her.

[QUOTE=Pukkaghee;2621562]Ok, newbie in (British) town here. Following guidance from esteemed brothers in arms from across the pond, I have refused to pay those sweeties who ask for money just to turn up for a coffee. I have also been stood up a couple of times. I have, nevertheless, successfully persuaded a few lovelies to join me for a cordial coffee and a nice slice of cake. Now, a couple.

Of these have shown potential for further development and subsequent meetings have been mooted. However, both targets, although expressing a willingness to adjourn to a place of.

Privacy in due course, have said they would like to wait a few weeks while we "get to know each other". In the meantime they are happy to meet for meals, drinks or theatre visits, but are asking for payment on top of these expenses. I demurred, only to be informed that this was standard practice. Is it? Do you pay POT SBs for their attendance at "get to know you" meetings over a period of time with only a promise of joys to come?[/QUOTE]

I never pay for a M & G. That is a discovery time for the man and woman. One has to assess if there is chemistry just like the other does. If there is enough chemistry to where both feel they are attracted to each other then an arrangement can be discussed. If a woman needs more time I give it to her by meeting again if necessary, but I never pay her except for the meal or coffee. Most of the time they don't say anything about being paid while I'm with them, but normally while we're initially emailing each other, but that is relatively rare. If a baby doesn't like it then say have a nice day and good luck and move on.

Personally I'm not lonely enough to have a pay someone for merely a date.