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[QUOTE=Wleakr;5224807]All of those clubs have recent reviews, so have a read and take your pick.
And if you ain't worried about COVID, why should we? We all Gucci! LOL![/QUOTE]Lmao! At Wleakr. Exactly! And when did "why why'll" become one word? Is it one of those things where the guy in a song said "50 'leven" times when he could have said 61?
I saw a couple of guys ask for recommendations on clubs. As someone mentioned they can read the recent posts. But to make it easier on them. Based on my recent experiences plus reading others' experiences I would recommend in this order: Blaze, Pinups, Diamond, Vivide, Wax, Strokers (or maybe Strokers then Wax).
And not sure what you mean about clumsy, Lazy.
Thanks Frankie for this list. Does this mean FS guaranteed at any of these places? Prefer KAMP over Camp but wondering others experience.
[QUOTE=Frankie14;5225197]I saw a couple of guys ask for recommendations on clubs. As someone mentioned they can read the recent posts. But to make it easier on them. Based on my recent experiences plus reading others' experiences I would recommend in this order: Blaze, Pinups, Diamond, Vivide, Wax, Strokers (or maybe Strokers then Wax).
And not sure what you mean about clumsy, Lazy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HaneDales;5226023]Thanks Frankie for this list. Does this mean FS guaranteed at any of these places? Prefer KAMP over Camp but wondering others experience.[/QUOTE]The one I mentioned are all strip clubs not K / CAMPS. There is never a FS guarantee. In my experience, closest sure thing would be Vivide, Diamond, Blaze and Wax, respectively. And possibly Pinups.
[QUOTE=Frankie14;5225197]I saw a couple of guys ask for recommendations on clubs. As someone mentioned they can read the recent posts. But to make it easier on them. Based on my recent experiences plus reading others' experiences I would recommend in this order: Blaze, Pinups, Diamond, Vivide, Wax, Strokers (or maybe Strokers then Wax).
And not sure what you mean about clumsy, Lazy.[/QUOTE]I asked because the reports on Stokers went from positive to negative in a couple of pages. It's very close to me so I wanted to try it but I'm not sure now.
[QUOTE=Frankie14;5226099]The one I mentioned are all strip clubs not K / CAMPS. There is never a FS guarantee. In my experience, closest sure thing would be Vivide, Diamond, Blaze and Wax, respectively. And possibly Pinups.[/QUOTE]I received a message from another monger indicating that they've seen lots of girls who used to work at Follies at Platinum, and that he's gotten there pretty much every time. His only negative comment was that they do all covered (including CBJ).
[URL]https://youtu.be/mlUjw55F8NQ[/URL]
Strip clubs have been my biggest vice since 1995. In the last several years I have tried to learn and study more about the motivations (money I know) and the mindset of the entertainers. I discovered this chicks YouTube channel a few weeks ago. I find it interesting because it is not well polished and she is with in my entertainment area. I am not overly interested in what's happening in the clubs 1,000 miles away, I want to know what's going close to home. What I find particularly interesting about this video is she mentions how badly she needs to earn money for rent, easter, eye lashes, nails. Yet instead of actually hustling at work (which is where she's at) she's hiding in the locker room. She mentions how much she hates dancing on the stage. While I can understand that to a point, I find the stage a critical point in my dancer selection process. I need to see / speak to a stripper for a few moments prior to getting a dance (and start spending significantly more money). I hate when a girl walks up cold, puts me on spot and asks for a dance, I need a little more information prior to making choice. I don't usually have the nerve to just walk up to a girl sitting at a table alone or with a group of dancers to ask for a dance. (unless that liquor is really in effect). That's why I feel the stage is critical, and is perplexed the dancers do not recognize how important it is to their success. I don't think I am alone in this area. I always wondered why it took so long for a girl to appear on floor after getting off stage, I always thought she was freshening up, doing the club owner or snorting a line, now I realize she is doing a Instagram photo shoot / YouTube video. Instead of hustling me on the floor. This girls home club is the starlight sports club (as she mentions in most of her videos) but seems to dance at several different clubs in and around the Atl.
[QUOTE=Frankie14;5226645]I received a message from another monger indicating that they've seen lots of girls who used to work at Follies at Platinum, and that he's gotten there pretty much every time. His only negative comment was that they do all covered (including CBJ).[/QUOTE]I have found this to be true more times than I can count, it's not absolute but it's darn sure close.
1. girl realizes body can make money. She get's a job at hooters or at a bar showing off skin.
2. girl wants more money and turns to topless bar as dancer.
3. girl then realizes more money can be made full nude.
4. girl picks up some bad habits and needs more money and starts seeing clients on the side for sex.
5. girl realizes sex is profitable and now lists herself as an escort online (while still dancing and seeing customers on side).
6. girl is so focused on making more and more money she loses track of keeping care of herself and starts making a lot less in the club.
7. girl gives up stripping realizing she can make more at once to pay for her habits having sex out of her apartment.
8. bad habits cause her to lose her apartment and start living and working out of a motel (she's not looking so good at this point).
9. Drugs have taken over her life, she looks like hell compared to stripper days and she no longer can afford to pay for roof and drugs.
10. Girl makes the decision to go to FIB or similar and work as a streetwalker. She makes enough for the drugs, an occasional meal and if its a good day she can afford a room.
This isn't just an Atlanta thing, I've lived many places between the east and west coast and even up north. Next time you are banging a provider and she mentions something about she used to be a stripper you can think back to the 10 stages of crashing. I know a girl here in Atlanta who went through all this and is no longer a provider but she has withdrawals from having all that money and has a hard time reminding herself of how much it has destroyed her life.
So yes in the club before they've gone to hell they see no reason to offer anything more than covered services. Keep in touch with them if you can, because it will only take a few short years for them to be begging you to let them earn money from you with uncovered services.
[QUOTE=MartyBass864;5227017][URL]https://youtu.be/mlUjw55F8NQ[/URL]
Strip clubs have been my biggest vice since 1995. In the last several years I have tried to learn and study more about the motivations (money I know) and the mindset of the entertainers. I discovered this chicks YouTube channel a few weeks ago. I find it interesting because it is not well polished and she is with in my entertainment area. I am not overly interested in what's happening in the clubs 1,000 miles away, I want to know what's going close to home. What I find particularly interesting about this video is she mentions how badly she needs to earn money for rent, easter, eye lashes, nails. Yet instead of actually hustling at work (which is where she's at) she's hiding in the locker room. She mentions how much she hates dancing on the stage. While I can understand that to a point, I find the stage a critical point in my dancer selection process. I need to see / speak to a stripper for a few moments prior to getting a dance (and start spending significantly more money). I hate when a girl walks up cold, puts me on spot and asks for a dance, I need a little more information prior to making choice. I don't usually have the nerve to just walk up to a girl sitting at a table alone or with a group of dancers to ask for a dance. (unless that liquor is really in effect). That's why I feel the stage is critical, and is perplexed the dancers do not recognize how important it is to their success. I don't think I am alone in this area. I always wondered why it took so long for a girl to appear on floor after getting off stage, I always thought she was freshening up, doing the club owner or snorting a line, now I realize she is doing a Instagram photo shoot / YouTube video. Instead of hustling me on the floor. This girls home club is the starlight sports club (as she mentions in most of her videos) but seems to dance at several different clubs in and around the Atl.[/QUOTE]In 30 years of going strip clubs (well, not so often the past 10), I have met exactly ONE stripper who did it right.
I forgot her name. She was a white girl, average looking, early 20's. She wasn't my type, but I met her through another stripper I was fucking at the time (a tattooed little Laotian chick who of course didn't have a dime when she left the industry). This girl worked at that strip club that was in the same shopping complex as Shooter Alley (I forgot the name, but it was further down in the shopping center), so it wasn't even a particularly busy club. More of a "regulars" club.
This girl didn't have any tattoos, so she could pass as something other than a hoe outside the club. She kept a log of all her earnings every day, and. Get this. She filed quarterly taxes (like an independent contractor should). She had an exit plan, which was to dance exactly two years and then go to college. She didn't socialize with her coworkers or customers at all, and provided no extras: she was a stripper, up and up. She maintained a frugal, "student" lifestyle, banking everything. After two years, she had a pretty good wad of capital (and it was IN A BANK), kissed the 8 inch heels goodbye, and left much richer than when she started.
She was the ONLY stripper (out of many hundreds) who showed a net profit at the end of a stripping career. I can think of other girls who had good outcomes (married wealthy customers), but she's the only one who really DID IT. I wish I'd kept track of her, but she flat vanished from the scene after she retired. I wanted to hire her (for anything, I'd have invented a job for her.).
That said, it's completely unsurprising that strippers are generally unprofessional because these are girls who woke up one day realizing that stripping was pretty much their best option. We're not exactly talking STEM career or high finance here!
O.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5227317]In 30 years of going strip clubs (well, not so often the past 10), I have met exactly ONE stripper who did it right.
I forgot her name. She was a white girl, average looking, early 20's. She wasn't my type, but I met her through another stripper I was fucking at the time (a tattooed little Laotian chick who of course didn't have a dime when she left the industry). This girl worked at that strip club that was in the same shopping complex as Shooter Alley (I forgot the name, but it was further down in the shopping center), so it wasn't even a particularly busy club. More of a "regulars" club.
This girl didn't have any tattoos, so she could pass as something other than a hoe outside the club. She kept a log of all her earnings every day, and. Get this. She filed quarterly taxes (like an independent contractor should). She had an exit plan, which was to dance exactly two years and then go to college. She didn't socialize with her coworkers or customers at all, and provided no extras: she was a stripper, up and up. She maintained a frugal, "student" lifestyle, banking everything. After two years, she had a pretty good wad of capital (and it was IN A BANK), kissed the 8 inch heels goodbye, and left much richer than when she started.
She was the ONLY stripper (out of many hundreds) who showed a net profit at the end of a stripping career. I can think of other girls who had good outcomes (married wealthy customers), but she's the only one who really DID IT. I wish I'd kept track of her, but she flat vanished from the scene after she retired. I wanted to hire her (for anything, I'd have invented a job for her.)..[/QUOTE]Most women are really only looking for a few ride. Many women will actually spend years getting their degrees but the moment they are given the option to be a stay at home wife they will choose to leave the life of working for income in a heart beat. So it doesn't surprise me that strippers want to get paid without having to do any real work. That's why many women got them premium accounts. So they can sit on their azz and collect free money from symps. It's not like they are doing any extra work because they already spend their days taking selfies in multiple angles to post on social media for some likes and validation. They are just doing that exact thing for income now. Women these days are lazy.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5227317]In 30 years of going strip clubs (well, not so often the past 10), I have met exactly ONE stripper who did it right.
I forgot her name. She was a white girl, average looking, early 20's. She wasn't my type, but I met her through another stripper I was fucking at the time (a tattooed little Laotian chick who of course didn't have a dime when she left the industry). This girl worked at that strip club that was in the same shopping complex as Shooter Alley (I forgot the name, but it was further down in the shopping center), so it wasn't even a particularly busy club. More of a "regulars" club.
This girl didn't have any tattoos, so she could pass as something other than a hoe outside the club. She kept a log of all her earnings every day, and. Get this. She filed quarterly taxes (like an independent contractor should). She had an exit plan, which was to dance exactly two years and then go to college. She didn't socialize with her coworkers or customers at all, and provided no extras: she was a stripper, up and up. She maintained a frugal, "student" lifestyle, banking everything. After two years, she had a pretty good wad of capital (and it was IN A BANK), kissed the 8 inch heels goodbye, and left much richer than when she started.
She was the ONLY stripper (out of many hundreds) who showed a net profit at the end of a stripping career. I can think of other girls who had good outcomes (married wealthy customers), but she's the only one who really DID IT. I wish I'd kept track of her, but she flat vanished from the scene after she retired. I wanted to hire her (for anything, I'd have invented a job for her.).
That said, it's completely unsurprising that strippers are generally unprofessional because these are girls who woke up one day realizing that stripping was pretty much their best option. We're not exactly talking STEM career or high finance here!
O.[/QUOTE]The one difference I've seen is those who did it part time, and those for whom it's their main gig. Met a number of strippers who actually were also college students (IDs and all) who used dancing as a way to in essence give themselves a raise as an addition to usually a low paying job. Also saw a number of dancers who would dance with a group of friends, more as a hoot than anything, and who walked away with some extra cash; the group thing usually allowed them to avoid risks.
But the full-timers: I also knew only like 1 or 2 that did it right (usually at corporate clubs, which usually allowed them to set SOME limits), who made out pretty good. But the vast majority simply had no long-term perspectives, and would drink or smoke away most of their bucks, usually leading to more hardcore activities, and on and on.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5227317]This girl worked at that strip club that was in the same shopping complex as Shooter Alley (I forgot the name, but it was further down in the shopping center), so it wasn't even a particularly busy club. More of a "regulars" club.[/QUOTE]Oz. Name of the place was roosters. It was a dump then they remodeled it and it was a little nicer. Then closed but yeah more of a bar then a strip club very small as I recall. Lots of places like this in the heyday of the 90's in this city. I really liked that place too.
[QUOTE=AllTheTime;5227415]The one difference I've seen is those who did it part time, and those for whom it's their main gig. Met a number of strippers who actually were also college students (IDs and all) who used dancing as a way to in essence give themselves a raise as an addition to usually a low paying job. Also saw a number of dancers who would dance with a group of friends, more as a hoot than anything, and who walked away with some extra cash; the group thing usually allowed them to avoid risks.
But the full-timers: I also knew only like 1 or 2 that did it right (usually at corporate clubs, which usually allowed them to set SOME limits), who made out pretty good. But the vast majority simply had no long-term perspectives, and would drink or smoke away most of their bucks, usually leading to more hardcore activities, and on and on.[/QUOTE]I know one who did it right. Worked at the Gold Club here in the early 90's for a year then moved to Hawaii and did it there for a few years. Saved every penny. According to her, barely drank, no drugs, didn't fuck for money, didn't fuck patrons or staff. Was a college graduate and came from a good family so it was all on the DL. Left the biz with dough, got a straight job, is married now with kids, didn't marry some rich older guy either. Seems happy and credible as I've kept in good touch with her all this time.
But oh damn did she see a lot of girls gone very bad and to this day thinks she was lucky.
I think your experience is the same for many here (including myself). The majority of these girls end up in a less desirable place after their youth and beauty expires.
[QUOTE=TheWiseacre;5227736]I know one who did it right. Worked at the Gold Club here in the early 90's for a year then moved to Hawaii and did it there for a few years. Saved every penny. According to her, barely drank, no drugs, didn't fuck for money, didn't fuck patrons or staff. Was a college graduate and came from a good family so it was all on the DL. Left the biz with dough, got a straight job, is married now with kids, didn't marry some rich older guy either. Seems happy and credible as I've kept in good touch with her all this time.
But oh damn did she see a lot of girls gone very bad and to this day thinks she was lucky.[/QUOTE]
A lot of my all time favorites ended up marrying nice guys they met at the clubs, except a gorgeous one that just died a month ago in an accident. Mind you, the guys are not millionaires but good guys that gave the girls a nice comfortable family. One even started a business herself after marrying, doing right well. Therefore it is hard to stereotype. Honestly, I do wish them luck. There are just too many pimps, drugs, drug dealers around. It is hard for the girls to get out of the business. Money is too good and temptations too many. Too many broken families and too many girls having babies when they are too young. There are some nice genuine girls out there. You just have to find them.