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[QUOTE=FogHorn1;6181785]She looks great in the gym pic on her profile. How about sharing an insta profile link so we know what you're talking about?[/QUOTE]It's private now so.
I don't think I kept the screen shots.
[URL]https://instagram.com/dayyy_um?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheYoungMonger;6180963]Had her for $300 PPM, au pair from Colombia.
Nothing special, pretty face but a flat chest and an underwhelming rest of body. Sex was pretty vanilla and boring. Def couldn't recommend for 6-700.[/QUOTE]I think she lost whatever pretty face after dropping all that weight. She looked Hella raggedy for someone at 26 or whatever.
Flat chest, flat ass. Her insta looks better. So, fellas just jerk it to her insta because irl it's not all that.
[QUOTE=FogHorn1;6181532]Good to know, she's been at the top of my "to do" list for 10 days or so but I can't get her to even open a message. She's got the slim body I love, but I'm not about a dead fish in the sack, even for 300, let alone 700.[/QUOTE]She's not really a dead fish, she's just not a pornstar experience. Willing to give BJ, ride, etc, doesn't just lay there.
Wants to begin virtual and request a fee for an in-person to visit. Countered with a lunch / dinner and drinks. We'll see if she accepts.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8501f4a8-5fdd-4bb4-b34f-1e5469475a4b[/URL]
[QUOTE=GMarts018;6182003]Blocked her so I don't have the username anymore. I think it was beach babe or something. We connected a week ago. She went on a trip and was messaging me sporadically while she was away. She got back in town yesterday and sent me a short vid to entice a response. I sent her one back. We didn't talk of getting together at this point and I hopped in the shower because I had some guys coming over for poker night. While I'm in the shower she calls me through Snapchat. Then I messaged her saying I'm sorry I was in the shower and have friends coming over any minute so I can't talk now.
All this is boring and mundane I get that. But then she blows up my phone saying I'm hiding a wife and I'm a cheat and my "friends" coming over must be a girlfriend. She said I'm like all men and just a lying cheat. Mind you, this is just from not answering her call and we didn't have any plans to meet up. I've never experience someone do a 180 like that on me for no reason. On seeking, I am looking for a fun time with little drama. I'm single but I know many of you are not. I'd be afraid of what she'd do to "get back" at any of you who are actually in a relationship.
Anyway, be warned. Pics attached.[/QUOTE]Here's the crazy chicks profile:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b268da73-566b-4af2-9695-925ac503d280[/URL]
[QUOTE=GMarts018;6182003]Blocked her so I don't have the username anymore. I think it was beach babe or something. We connected a week ago. She went on a trip and was messaging me sporadically while she was away. She got back in town yesterday and sent me a short vid to entice a response. I sent her one back. We didn't talk of getting together at this point and I hopped in the shower because I had some guys coming over for poker night. While I'm in the shower she calls me through Snapchat. Then I messaged her saying I'm sorry I was in the shower and have friends coming over any minute so I can't talk now.
All this is boring and mundane I get that. But then she blows up my phone saying I'm hiding a wife and I'm a cheat and my "friends" coming over must be a girlfriend. She said I'm like all men and just a lying cheat. Mind you, this is just from not answering her call and we didn't have any plans to meet up. I've never experience someone do a 180 like that on me for no reason. On seeking, I am looking for a fun time with little drama. I'm single but I know many of you are not. I'd be afraid of what she'd do to "get back" at any of you who are actually in a relationship.
Anyway, be warned. Pics attached.[/QUOTE]Few months ago I had the same experience 100%. Didn't reply to a text for like a day due to meetings and travel and she went ballistic.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea028085-538a-48fe-8fb8-d57e76458caa[/URL]
I'm not sure if her page is still up but requested 50 for a babysitter in advance for Monday. Discussed ppm and location then promptly blocked my phone number shortly after I sent the "babysitter fee".
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6182284]She's not really a dead fish, she's just not a pornstar experience. Willing to give BJ, ride, etc, doesn't just lay there.[/QUOTE]I agree with this statement. She isn't a dead fish in bed but she doesn't have the Colombian fire AT ALL. I've been with a lot of Colombians and latinas and they all seem to be major freaks in bed. She kind of just goes through the motions. Not worth the money.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6182283]I think she lost whatever pretty face after dropping all that weight. She looked Hella raggedy for someone at 26 or whatever.
Flat chest, flat ass. Her insta looks better. So, fellas just jerk it to her insta because irl it's not all that.[/QUOTE]Can't attest to this but it wouldn't surprise me. These women get haggard and raggedy pretty quickly from getting fucked so much.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/893f4bd9-f637-4cbb-82a4-9c6ac6d5c35b[/URL]
Hit her up about a week ago, took for ever to respond to any conversation Finally went over to snap and with in 10 minutes she sent a video of her and her light candy habit. Literally before word one. Seems more then a little stranger in the videos after. Also ask for 500 and can host and drive. Has a huge ass dog. I passed.
Looks put together for now.
I eventually dropped one from rotation after about 18 months. When you're not going to marry someone, no matter how hot they are, the relationship fizzles. The sex becomes somewhat mechanical, and there is always someone hotter. To put it bluntly, she just aged out. The other two ghosted, but it was after I was only seeing them about one a month / once every 6/8 weeks. Got blocked on socials and texts went dead. Got to assume they either moved on from the sugar world or got serious with someone.
They would fuck the rich dudes as well. Sometimes for free if the rich dude was hot, sometimes for some ridiculously large sum of money if the guy was fat, old, ugly, and if he was all of the above, the higher the allowance requirements. They would tell me stories of how easy it was for them or their friends to find a dude to fuck for $1 k or more when they needed the latest iPhone that was about to be released or cash for Christmas presents or a funds for a big trip.
The girls and their friends all knew about SA and would activate and deactivate their accounts as needed. Sometimes they were "dating" some rich guy they met at the club, and sometimes they weren't and wanted to meet a guy. Being a bottle girl is almost, and sometimes more lucrative than stripping. The amount of cash that gets dropped at the clubs is insane. Work there for any period of time, and it changes a woman's mindset. Their time and affection become linked to cash or being taken care of.
All their friends knew about seeking, and they would talk about the adventures their friends shared, but none offered to let a third join. I didn't press any of them at the time. Most girls are catty and I got the impression none wanted to share what they had with the others. Kind of like this forum, once a girl latched onto someone they thought was a keeper, they weren't going to share info out of fear that another girl would try to make a power move and steal the guy.
Yes, losing weight will make you a lot more attractive to most women, especially since you have cash. Natural attraction will shave off significant amounts, especially if you dress and hold yourself well out in public and have a modicum of confidence. I've been told that I'm east on the eyes so that might help with how I get allowances in the $300/$400 range. When I was 25/40 lbs heavier, I didn't get that kind of response.
Hit the gym, you'll feel better for it all around.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6181065]Had her too, but for 700. When did you do for 300? Was this like 2 years ago, or 5 lol? Hard to believe she was accepting 300 with how she acts now.
Why did the bottle girls eventually leave you? Snagged by someone richer, moved away, got a boyfriend, or you don't know and they ghosted? Or better yet, did you drop them? That'd be quite something.
Did they not take up the rich dude's offers because they made decent money slinging bottles, so they didn't need $2k from a rich asshole to pump and dump them? Or did they still fuck those guys too?
Do the girls in that industry talk about sugaring with their coworkers or friends? In the vanilla world, girls giving dick reviews of dudes to their friends (how good he is in the sack) is apparently a common thing. GDR = Good Dick Review, BDR = Bad DR. A dude with a GDR has a high chance of banging her friends, according to female blogs and podcasts I've heard. Not sure if the same is true for sugaring, did your bottle girl SB's ever talk about getting one of their girlfriends onto SA? I know you were trying to get a current SB to find a 3some partner, not sure if it would have been easier if you were still hooked into the nightclub girls.
So what you're saying is, being an average-looking man instead of a fat man shaves off hundreds or thousands from the PPM. I have never had a single girl agree to 300 PPM, much less a bottle girl. I always start at 300 PPM for dinner dates when negotiating. I do everything you do with regards to respect, game, ability in the sack, etc. I'm just obese.
Interesting that even in the world of pay for play, looks end up mattering more than money.[/QUOTE]
If you lose a bunch of weight, you’ll also find that with some your allowance requirements may disappear entirely, especially when you’re single.
Can’t tell you how many of these girls end up catching feelings, even for an old married monger like me. When that happens I end up having to ghost them because I have no intention of leaving my SO.
I suspect if you dropped 20/50 lbs, you’d be a prime candidate for some of these ladies who will want to be your wifey.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6181065]Had her too, but for 700. When did you do for 300? Was this like 2 years ago, or 5 lol? Hard to believe she was accepting 300 with how she acts now.
Why did the bottle girls eventually leave you? Snagged by someone richer, moved away, got a boyfriend, or you don't know and they ghosted? Or better yet, did you drop them? That'd be quite something.
Did they not take up the rich dude's offers because they made decent money slinging bottles, so they didn't need $2k from a rich asshole to pump and dump them? Or did they still fuck those guys too?
Do the girls in that industry talk about sugaring with their coworkers or friends? In the vanilla world, girls giving dick reviews of dudes to their friends (how good he is in the sack) is apparently a common thing. GDR = Good Dick Review, BDR = Bad DR. A dude with a GDR has a high chance of banging her friends, according to female blogs and podcasts I've heard. Not sure if the same is true for sugaring, did your bottle girl SB's ever talk about getting one of their girlfriends onto SA? I know you were trying to get a current SB to find a 3some partner, not sure if it would have been easier if you were still hooked into the nightclub girls.
So what you're saying is, being an average-looking man instead of a fat man shaves off hundreds or thousands from the PPM. I have never had a single girl agree to 300 PPM, much less a bottle girl. I always start at 300 PPM for dinner dates when negotiating. I do everything you do with regards to respect, game, ability in the sack, etc. I'm just obese.
Interesting that even in the world of pay for play, looks end up mattering more than money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;6183909]If you lose a bunch of weight, youll also find that with some your allowance requirements may disappear entirely, especially when youre single.
Cant tell you how many of these girls end up catching feelings...[/QUOTE]Can attest to this as well. I'm younger (by SD standards) in relatively good shape. No bodybuilder but I hit the gym on the regular, I dress well and I'm single. I'm not the baller getting bottle girls (In fact I've never even been to a club that offers bottle service LOL) but I've had a number of girls from SA that dropped the allowance all together; as in I never paid an allowance even on the first "date. " A few have caught feelings, more than a handful, but not all of course. Hell, I caught feelings once myself, but they've all run their course. It doesn't take long to realize there's only so much you can talk to with a girl 20 years younger than you are.
I'd offer this bit of advice: as nice as it is to get free pussy, it's easier to just pay them. Even if it's a small amount. This way there's no expectations, and you can always land on the fact that this was an arrangement when they start getting needy. Once you're in a non "mutually beneficial" relationship they start acting like they're your GF and, at least for me, that's the whole reason I'm on SA. I don't need the hassle of a GF wanting to know if we're exclusive, where I am, access to my calendar, etc.
Yep. Sometimes it's better to just provide a small allowance or give them gifts they want to keep the line between Sugar arrangement and real relationship clear.
I've had a few that I had to ghost because they wanted to date. When they start giving it up for free, it's usually a red flag and means it's time to bounce. Cutting ties too late once they catch feelings can leave some of these SBs a little crazy.
See the threads on OPSEC. This is always key.
[QUOTE=FogHorn1;6183951]Can attest to this as well. I'm younger (by SD standards) in relatively good shape. No bodybuilder but I hit the gym on the regular, I dress well and I'm single. I'm not the baller getting bottle girls (In fact I've never even been to a club that offers bottle service LOL) but I've had a number of girls from SA that dropped the allowance all together; as in I never paid an allowance even on the first "date. " A few have caught feelings, more than a handful, but not all of course. Hell, I caught feelings once myself, but they've all run their course. It doesn't take long to realize there's only so much you can talk to with a girl 20 years younger than you are.
I'd offer this bit of advice: as nice as it is to get free pussy, it's easier to just pay them. Even if it's a small amount. This way there's no expectations, and you can always land on the fact that this was an arrangement when they start getting needy. Once you're in a non "mutually beneficial" relationship they start acting like they're your GF and, at least for me, that's the whole reason I'm on SA. I don't need the hassle of a GF wanting to know if we're exclusive, where I am, access to my calendar, etc.[/QUOTE]
Based on some of the DMs, looks like I shared a bottle service girl with one or two of you mongers. LOL.
Too funny, I found her on SDM and asked her out to lunch. She declined and said we were lookin for different things. We went our Sept. Ways. She's pretty active in the chatroom on that site so we'd banter back and forth in there. In my DM's, she pretty much attacked and berated me so I gave her the verbal whatfor and told her to stay in her lane. She lives with her parents in a condo. Tight quarters. Yeah, she's loopy AF.
[QUOTE=GMarts018;6182003]Blocked her so I don't have the username anymore. I think it was beach babe or something. We connected a week ago. She went on a trip and was messaging me sporadically while she was away. She got back in town yesterday and sent me a short vid to entice a response. I sent her one back. We didn't talk of getting together at this point and I hopped in the shower because I had some guys coming over for poker night. While I'm in the shower she calls me through Snapchat. Then I messaged her saying I'm sorry I was in the shower and have friends coming over any minute so I can't talk now.
All this is boring and mundane I get that. But then she blows up my phone saying I'm hiding a wife and I'm a cheat and my "friends" coming over must be a girlfriend. She said I'm like all men and just a lying cheat. Mind you, this is just from not answering her call and we didn't have any plans to meet up. I've never experience someone do a 180 like that on me for no reason. On seeking, I am looking for a fun time with little drama. I'm single but I know many of you are not. I'd be afraid of what she'd do to "get back" at any of you who are actually in a relationship.
Anyway, be warned. Pics attached.[/QUOTE]