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Smelly, I recall you are spending $350 on Swim Girl? At that rate not one girl in my market would say no. You definitely open up your options if you are willing to spend to that level. The nice thing about her -for you, is you can prospect like you are doing for a better deal, and once you find one drop her or reduce her rate significantly. If she says "no" then next!!
The challenge comes when playing BP rates $100-200/ session.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2615694]Of the blonde swim instructor. I / We intrigued by the babe you had to pursue tenaciously for so long.
Too bad there is a "drought" in the south east.[/QUOTE]Oh here here, I'd like to see that too.
I am happy to report that my three FC trips (one completed and two that are planned) are all in the $100 - $200 range.
My swim instructor is $350 now because I like her so much that I wanted to take her off the market. Her profile on SA is currently dark as a result.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2615726]Smelly, I recall you are spending $350 on Swim Girl? At that rate not one girl in my market would say no. You definitely open up your options if you are willing to spend to that level. The nice thing about her -for you, is you can prospect like you are doing for a better deal, and once you find one drop her or reduce her rate significantly. If she says "no" then next!!
The challenge comes when playing BP rates $100-200/ session.[/QUOTE]
If you read my prior posts, you will notice that I got burned early on by disclosing too much info about my babies on this forum. As a result, I don't post pics and my info is always slightly off (age might be one or two years off, or she might be a brunette, not a blonde).
Too many SBs in the Mid Atlantic read this forum. A few months back, the forum admin had to deal with a crazy one who kept posting crazy stuff. It wouldn't be too hard for one of my babies to link my SA profile with my forum profile if I started posting pics and completely accurate info.
As an aside, if you want confirmation that I am not bragging for the sake of bragging, feel free to contact FTP about whether my info is any good. Bragging rights are always nice, but the info is more to tell our brothers when the tide of the bowl is ebbing and flowing (see prior posts), and to share allowance info in the mid-atlantic. To the extent I get any bragging rights, well those are just an added bonus. Of course I am under 45 so many will correctly point out that because of that advantage alone, I should be doing well. To those who think that, know that I am in complete agreement.
As for Ftp. He is the keeper of the list in parts of the areas I play in. I have shared baby info with him in the past. I will be sending him another list of my own shortly.
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2615738]Oh here here, I'd like to see that too.[/QUOTE]
My swim instructor has been my SB for a few months, but I didn't really pursue her for very long.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2615694]Of the blonde swim instructor. I / We intrigued by the babe you had to pursue tenaciously for so long.
Too bad there is a "drought" in the south east.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2615805]If you read my prior posts, you will notice that I got burned early on by disclosing too much info about my babies on this forum. As a result, I don't post pics and my info is always slightly off (age might be one or two years off, or she might be a brunette, not a blonde).
[/QUOTE]This is a good idea and aligns with recommendations I've made in the past. In the age of over-sharing, revealing too much info here is not a good idea unless you truly have nothing to lose (no SO / family / job concerns). Anything you post, whether accurate descriptions of the girls themselves, or photos, or conversations, might be used to identify you, and I think most SDs would prefer to keep their SBs on a "need to know" basis, minimizing the depth into our personal lives they have access to. Even posting a photo can identify you -- if she can recognize herself in the photo, she will likely know who you are.
I know my methods and advice do not always coincide nicely with the way others around here like to do things, but I also recommend not "sharing" girls or even info on specific girls with others you don't know via e-mail. As far as trading girls contact info, the only type of girls that would be willing to take referral daddies are straight up UTR escorts, and those are easy enough to bag on your own without putting your privacy at risk. Once there is a connection between you and a girl and that girl and someone else, there is a connection between you and that someone else. I have seen cases where I introduced friends to girls I formerly dated -- girls they might not have otherwise had the opportunity to fuck -- only to get stabbed in the back later as the girl got inside their head and decided to try to turn them against me. In one case the friendship was stronger than his desire to keep banging the girl but other cases turned out badly enough to teach me a lesson about sharing. You never know a man's weakness, particularly not an anonymous one over the Internet that you barely know. And again, trading girls with others is something best left for escorts and hookers -- anything that crosses that scene over and brings it into the SB scene is putting the bowl in jeopardy over the long-term.
I for one would like to see USASG lock down some of the content of this forum a bit more, so that it does not show up in search engines without creating an account and logging in (no anonymous reading). It doesn't lock sugar babies out of the thread, but it makes it harder for them to stumble on it so easily by a simple Google search.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2614164]I'm in Burbank. Hollywood Guy's neck of the woods. I've put feelers out since before I left. Met one today for a m & g. 22 yr old, 5'7" and slim. FC is planned for Monday.
She actually has a Persian look to her.
If she performs well then I'll have one here when I visit. I'm having so much fun with this stuff.[/QUOTE]Well so it is written so it is done fellas.
I'm trying to decide whether to keep this one or not. Long story short on one hand she's a little ditzy on the other hand she wasn't kidding when she told me she lost her virginity last year. Yes she just turned 22 and I said "yeah right", but after doing that, and experiencing her high sensitivity I would have to say she was telling the truth. And more importantly to me the her kitty was as clean as could be. Zero after smell. Just on that evaluation itself I have to give her a second chance.
Also she has these Persian / Egyptian type eyes that just mesmerizes you. Oh the lips are A 1 too on a nice slender model type body.
Men there is pussy galore out there.
Now that I'll be returning I have babies to catch up with.
On Wednesday meeting with my 31 yr old writer.
Thursday a M & G with a 23 yr old.
Friday tentatively meeting my hot 24 yr old recent graduate who is a legit model, or an adult model, or an escort. She might drive to me this time.
Saturday a M & G with two. One a stunning 29 yr old Latina and a cute 19 yr old red head.
I'm slowly going to faze out my college senior and maybe the same with the Asian Grad student.
There is one additional M & G but nothing has been confirmed. I just looked at her account and she took it off. So she went dark.
There were two escorts in Burbank / Glendale I turned away, and one other who went dark.
Plus one here in Glendale I was texting with before I left went dark when I got here except for a "I'm sorry been really busy".
Win some lose some, but I do like my wins. Solid wins.
Oh I almost forgot. A 19 yr old college student finally responded to me. I've got to fit in a M & G somewhere. I'm thinking Sunday. If one of the girls flakes on me this week I have a bench who is willing to play. She would be the bench player.
I've got to mention. On the M & G I had with my Persian I took her to a certain college backer bar located in North Hollywood to watch a college football game. That's where we hit it off.
The funny thing I want to mention is one most of the married guys look miserable being tied down. I see envy in their eyes when they see me with a 21 yr old gorgeous middle eastern woman.
And two I see these women in their forties giving me the evil eye like I'm robbing the cradle. When in reality they're jealous because they don't have the package they used to and my girl did. Petty crap.
Been out the bowl for awhile now. Promoted long-term SB to live-in SO. It's going very good so far and saved $$$ from my previous stream of rotating babies. I've been contemplating coming out of retirement. Is there anything worthwhile out there? I picked up some side chicks in the civi world. None have been to FC yet, but I noticed I'm approaching civi girls as if they're SB's. My game has been on another level since The Bowl.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2615890]
As far as trading girls contact info, the only type of girls that would be willing to take referral daddies are straight up UTR escorts, and those are easy enough to bag on your own without putting your privacy at risk. Trading girls with others is something best left for escorts and hookers -- anything that crosses that scene over and brings it into the SB scene is putting the bowl in jeopardy over the long-term.
I for one would like to see USASG lock down some of the content of this forum a bit more, so that it does not show up in search engines without creating an account and logging in (no anonymous reading). It doesn't lock sugar babies out of the thread, but it makes it harder for them to stumble on it so easily by a simple Google search.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with Lizard on this one. As I have stated previously, I'm all in favor of outing Bad Babies, scammers, con artists, Eastern European fakers, etc, with specific names, profiles and pics, but semantics aside, true SBs are not escorts, don't view themselves as such, and ought not to be treated as such. Don't poison your own well by behaving badly, my brothers. If too many babies are scared away from the Bowl, it will be just you and Rosie again, and who wants that?
If you want a "George Bailey" moment, just take a look at the "Chicago's non-pros" thread in my area to get an idea of what this could devolve into. Poor saps sharing names off CL and BP like they were state secrets. Any info I've posted over the years has not been to help you catch MY little fish, but to help you catch your own.
Peace,
Scott.
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2616418]Been out the bowl for awhile now. Promoted long-term SB to live-in SO. It's going very good so far and saved $$$ from my previous stream of rotating babies. I've been contemplating coming out of retirement. Is there anything worthwhile out there? I picked up some side chicks in the civi world. None have been to FC yet, but I noticed I'm approaching civi girls as if they're SB's. My game has been on another level since The Bowl.[/QUOTE]Hoya, Am I to understand that your former SB has become an SO-and is still there? Now you want to play the bowl again? The moral of that story is keep an Sb in her place as an SB. All girls become old hat after you live with them every day-even those 9's and 10's. So why bring them in house when you know you want to continue to play the field?
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2616550]Hoya, Am I to understand that your former SB has become an SO-and is still there? Now you want to play the bowl again? The moral of that story is keep an Sb in her place as an SB. All girls become old hat after you live with them every day-even those 9's and 10's. So why bring them in house when you know you want to continue to play the field?[/QUOTE]Good stuff, FredMoore. Where were you when I was contemplating moving her in? LMAO. I burnt out from constantly rotating girls. I was always back and forth with this particular SB. We grew up in the same area, and related well. She's almost half my age, "my" perfect 10 and only wears thongs around the house. That helps my work stress ALOT!
It seemed like a live in situation was the natural progression for a young college SB. I like our arrangement and haven't grown tired yet. I was curious if my area was back with new babies. It seemed like things were stagnant for awhile. I'm not ready to play the field again just yet, but it's good to know if my girl gets out of place that I can go back full on in The Bowl.
I got tempted recently after putting a colleague on to SA. The photos he's been sending of his new girls are out of this world. He too will probably burn out soon.
[QUOTE=FScott;2616473]I totally agree with Lizard on this one. As I have stated previously, I'm all in favor of outing Bad Babies, scammers, con artists, Eastern European fakers, etc, with specific names, profiles and pics, but semantics aside, true SBs are not escorts, don't view themselves as such, and ought not to be treated as such. Don't poison your own well by behaving badly, my brothers. If too many babies are scared away from the Bowl, it will be just you and Rosie again, and who wants that?
If you want a "George Bailey" moment, just take a look at the "Chicago's non-pros" thread in my area to get an idea of what this could devolve into. Poor saps sharing names off CL and BP like they were state secrets. Any info I've posted over the years has not been to help you catch MY little fish, but to help you catch your own.
[/QUOTE]The other consideration is that once a person collaborates with another one over the Internet to participate in an illegal sex related activity, they become subject to laws involving human trafficking, organized crime, etc. (particularly if it involves communication across state boundaries).
I think it's obvious to anyone here that "the feds have bigger fish to fry than a couple of guys swapping digits of their favorite UTR girls" and yes that's true -- they don't want a conviction against you, the SD. However shutting down SD sites wholesale would be quite a big fish and a feather in their cap and they would LOVE to use evidence of organized criminal activity / trafficking as an excuse to do it. "Swapping" girls can quickly be turned into exploitation by the media.
The idea that trading info on a baby will devolve into something like an exchange of names of girls on CL or BP presumes the pot / baby will respond to any Tom, Dick or Harry. Yes, girls from CL and BP who post an ad are likely looking to make a quick buck, and or likely to respond to any Tom Dick, or Harry. Every major city has the type of page you reference in your post. Yes, there are plenty of UTR girls that are on SA.
A pot / sb can only be treated like a escort if she allows for it. If that's not who she is, then she won't return messages that treat her as such.
Now I do agree that sharing lists of UTRs found on SA has little value. If I wanted to be on the clock, I'd go to one of my well established services. Yes. Out of self interest many guys out there will only provide throw away info in hopes of getting better info and trading up. I have no interest in that kind of info.
What I'm talking about is the exchange of info on real SBs. When I finish with an SB, I am truly done with her. I play in the bowl because I crave variety and the excitement that comes with a new encounter. To the extent that sharing of info helps save me time and money, I am all for it. I also completely understand that there is a real possibility the pot will have no interest in me. It helps to weed out GPS, and gives a ballpark of what to expect. At the end of the day though, this is truly a game of YMMV.
As for competing for your fish or my fish, or a strangers fish. Well, in my humble opinion, if your SB's profile is still up and active on any site, then at the end of the day we are all competing for the same fish and limited only by region, time and money.
Not attacking here, and the debate about the sharing of info has already been debated. I, like you, have no interest in a list of UTRs. What I did want to do was point out that information sharing has value, when done properly.
And as for scaring away babies from the bowl, why would info sharing do that? It should help them stay in the bowl since a good baby will be guaranteed to have high quality SDs who already knows what she wants, allowing her to pick a SD that suits her tastes.
Frankly, I would love it if my SBs shared my info.
[QUOTE=FScott;2616473]I totally agree with Lizard on this one. As I have stated previously, I'm all in favor of outing Bad Babies, scammers, con artists, Eastern European fakers, etc, with specific names, profiles and pics, but semantics aside, true SBs are not escorts, don't view themselves as such, and ought not to be treated as such. Don't poison your own well by behaving badly, my brothers. If too many babies are scared away from the Bowl, it will be just you and Rosie again, and who wants that?
If you want a "George Bailey" moment, just take a look at the "Chicago's non-pros" thread in my area to get an idea of what this could devolve into. Poor saps sharing names off CL and BP like they were state secrets. Any info I've posted over the years has not been to help you catch MY little fish, but to help you catch your own.
Peace,
Scott.[/QUOTE]
JL. Not an attack by any means, but more of a question because you post so authoritatively on the issue. Do you have a legal or law enforcement background?
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2616782]The other consideration is that once a person collaborates with another one over the Internet to participate in an illegal sex related activity, they become subject to laws involving human trafficking, organized crime, etc. (particularly if it involves communication across state boundaries).
I think it's obvious to anyone here that "the feds have bigger fish to fry than a couple of guys swapping digits of their favorite UTR girls" and yes that's true -- they don't want a conviction against you, the SD. However shutting down SD sites wholesale would be quite a big fish and a feather in their cap and they would LOVE to use evidence of organized criminal activity / trafficking as an excuse to do it. "Swapping" girls can quickly be turned into exploitation by the media.[/QUOTE]