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[QUOTE=Lungchops;5601912]Anyone have experience with this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a7f5cd5b-e002-41c8-99a9-01a3ca8ccfee[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow! All escorts are also migrating to SA!!

April is from some southern state and used to come to Chicago once a week until she had a high demand and ended up moving to Chicago. At the beginning she was nice but due to her popularity (very affordable rates) she became super but super busy and many times I had to wait for an hour in the parking lot to see her. She had tons of clients at any time or any day of the week. She would host at those motels around Lincoln Avenue on the north site. Her ads were everywhere, Craigslist and then backpage, I'm talking about maybe 8 years ago and she used the very same name (April) I don't know if that's her real name but I'm surprised she still uses that name.

So don't think you are dealing with a regular / organic woman. She was a high volume escort and I wouldn't do bb even if she offered it (most escorts don't offer bb on SA).

[QUOTE=RusselJimmies;5601571]So much cope in this thread. We have an interesting mix of guys who get it and guys who are absolutely clueless.

Everything involving women is fundamentally transactional, even if it's intangible and non-monetary. If they're into you for your status or your amazing fizeek, that is still transactional. That being said, hot young Seeking coeds have a plethora of attractive men and offers to choose from, and only so much time in the day. If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. Why? Because she likes you more than those other dudes. And that's true at every price range.

Sure it's possible she's only seeing you for the money and isn't into you one bit, but if you can't tell the difference then you're in that absolutely clueless category, and you need to learn how to attract women.

And yes there absolutely is an alpha / beta quality which girls can smell a mile away, which can easily overcome many other factors. If you think this is "pure pseudoscience" because you haven't yet been presented you with some peer-reviewed study from a university's sociology department then you're also in that absolutely clueless category and need to start learning from experience instead of so-called experts.[/QUOTE]"If you think this is "pure pseudoscience" because you haven't yet been presented you with some peer-reviewed study from a university's sociology department then you're also in that absolutely clueless category and need to start learning from experience instead of so-called experts".

If that is true then address any of my questions. I don't need a fancy degree to see through that silliness, just some common sense. "The experts" you are calling so-called is basically everything that is known about science and the history of people. It's not some small group of professors. It's the sum total of human knowledge. That's why what you're saying is so stupid. The world doesn't work that way. Shit isn't true just because you believe it. If people thought like that, you wouldn't be typing on a computer. If you think you can stick your finger in a light socket only because a "so-called expert" says you cannot, then have at it, bruh. Also, " If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. " This might be the statement of a "simp" after all because bro, she is going to fuck you for $5 and then she is going to fuck the others too $6, $7, and up, and she is going to make all that $. Let me get this straight, what you're saying is, basically, you think the girls you pay $5 for sex actually like you and are not doing it for the money? Bruh, you're in a category called "chump" if you believe that.

Btw, bro, you're using a board about SA and transactional sex to discourage young guys from using SA and having transactional sex. It's like your "inner Taliban," which might be as real as your so-called "instinct" is fighting with your need to use SA. If you don't need it, don't use it. You do you. But I'll just say that everything you said, could have been said by Tom Dart, and I cannot help but wonder if that's you behind the screen, Tommy.

Also, the other guy who said,

"Or fuck her boyfriend 3 times a week for free.

She will ghost you and choose her boyfriend. You are transactional her boyfriend is validated."

So, in this scenario, she is dating "a chad" or an "alpha" but I am also fucking this "chad's" or "alpha's" girlfriend and he doesn't know it. Well, is he still a chad or alpha, if his girlfriend is giving up her ass to me for my chump change on the side? Seems pretty weak and cucky to me if your girlfriend puts her ass in the air to me for my leftover $. The scenario is ridiculous because you're saying she will ghost me and chooser her boyfriend. But didn't she just choose me and ghost her boyfriend as soon as I placed a bid? That's what I am saying, the way some guys think about these things is as stupid as the way some chick thinks astrology and "Scorpios" or "Cancers" are real. I'm sure if I told them that they were wrong about astrology they'd be like "but it's true, it just is, I don't care what some so-called expert thinks." Anyone can punch a million holes in it and it's just what weak minded people choose to believe because they cannot handle the truth.

[QUOTE=Pal5600;5602180]I don't know why some guys don't understand SA, SA is a market place where girls go on there to sell their pussy and guys go on there to buy pussy, it not that much different from amazon or ebay, the only really different is the sellers can refuse to sell you her pussy, you maybe get luck and get a fat old ladies pussy for free but idk, I don't go there, everything on sa is transactional, nothing is free. maybe you can ask a seller on amazon or ebay to sell you free products and see what they will said.

If hot young girls want to have sex, they just don't go on sa and find some old guys to fuck for free, they just don't do that, hot young coed go to college bar, club, party ect to find guys and have sex for free, not sa. If you look for love, marriage go to match, pof, church, dog park ect. But don't go on sa looking for love, you will not find it, be safe and just play the sa game and have fun[/QUOTE]Truth bomb right here.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5602328]Also, the other guy who said,

"Or fuck her boyfriend 3 times a week for free.

She will ghost you and choose her boyfriend. You are transactional her boyfriend is validated."

So, in this scenario, she is dating "a chad" or an "alpha" but I am also fucking this "chad's" or "alpha's" girlfriend and he doesn't know it. Well, is he still a chad or alpha, if his girlfriend is giving up her ass to me for my chump change on the side? Seems pretty weak and cucky to me if your girlfriend puts her ass in the air to me for my leftover $. The scenario is ridiculous because you're saying she will ghost me and chooser her boyfriend. But didn't she just choose me and ghost her boyfriend as soon as I placed a bid? That's what I am saying, the way some guys think about these things is as stupid as the way some chick thinks astrology and "Scorpios" or "Cancers." Anyone can punch a million holes in it and it's just what weak minded people choose to believe because they cannot handle the truth.[/QUOTE]The guy doesn't have to be a Chad but she perceives him to be of higher value than you are. You are paying to fuck her pussy and she is giving it for free to the other guy. You need money to fuck her and he doesn't. It doesn't mean he is better than you, but she perceives him to be of higher value. You are paying and he isn't. Woman cheat all the time without the guy paying, at least she is getting paid. You can't call Chad a cuck if he has no knowledge of it.

Next time you are paying your 500 ppm ask the girl if she would like to see you without ppm and see what happens.

When I am paying ppm I know the girl doesn't see me as a Chad it is impossible. That being said I don't give a fuck because I am going to get my nut off and have a good time.

[QUOTE=Pal5600;5602180]I don't know why some guys don't understand SA, SA is a market place where girls go on there to sell their pussy and guys go on there to buy pussy, it not that much different from amazon or ebay, the only really different is the sellers can refuse to sell you her pussy, you maybe get luck and get a fat old ladies pussy for free but idk, I don't go there, everything on sa is transactional, nothing is free. maybe you can ask a seller on amazon or ebay to sell you free products and see what they will said.

If hot young girls want to have sex, they just don't go on sa and find some old guys to fuck for free, they just don't do that, hot young coed go to college bar, club, party ect to find guys and have sex for free, not sa. If you look for love, marriage go to match, pof, church, dog park ect. But don't go on sa looking for love, you will not find it, be safe and just play the sa game and have fun[/QUOTE]95% of the time you are right, that being said woman break rules for certain guys and make rules for everyone else.

The 10's are going to be harder to fuck for free but I have fucked young 6's and 7's for free off of SA. I would have posted links of girls I fucked for free but They will get bombarded and I will get out on blast so I can't do that. But I agree if the girl is young and hot it is going to be very hard!

A couple I'm dumping for better options.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e70086b6-186f-46ca-890a-861671dd6744[/URL]

Private pics are smoking, but so is her price tag. Claims her last provided $6 k monthly. Moving on.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3fb9a27c-6c85-4506-8a73-10c3b6a7dd2c[/URL]

Met and real life not as good as pics. Never got to discuss money, but she's nice and knows how this works.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9f9d5f6c-d4f4-42c2-b60c-091b3e4976a8[/URL]

Sweet girl who says she used to get between 4-6 for ppm but can't host. Also covered FS no anal. I'd probably do it but getting hotel isn't worth it.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a8498588-8c23-4692-9630-b04ba8d32b58[/URL]

DTF but her schedule doesn't work and likely can't host. I never went to text so not much else to add.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad8afdcb-91ad-4f46-abe4-165a6bcee390[/URL]

Experienced and dtf but can't host. She said she did monthly before but willing to do ppm. I don't remember if we talked $ because I moved on to better pursuits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ae1480dd-678b-47cb-9a43-a869083543f2[/URL]

I like this one but she has a real job that requires her to be available and she doesn't want married due to the drama. Probably a good lead for young single guy but older probably need to flash $.

I'm kinda running out and getting jaded but the unicorn search continues.

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5602374]95% of the time you are right, that being said woman break rules for certain guys and make rules for everyone else.

The 10's are going to be harder to fuck for free but I have fucked young 6's and 7's for free off of SA. I would have posted links of girls I fucked for free but They will get bombarded and I will get out on blast so I can't do that. But I agree if the girl is young and hot it is going to be very hard![/QUOTE]This is why I don't share specifics because the girls I've met are often alittle bit more selective and they have told me they only meet a handful of guys per month, if that. If I were to air out the details on here, I'd get outed.

[QUOTE=DynoJr;5602529]
I'm kinda running out and getting jaded but the unicorn search continues.[/QUOTE]Let your membership expire and don't sign up again for another 3-4 months or atleast until / if things start going back to normal and opening up again.

The amount of women on here asking for $500 to get dinner or 1 K PPM is ridiculous and alot of them are pretty average all things considered.

I just got suspended recently and I'm one strike away from being banned.

I keep it PG in the messages so I'm not sure what I did but this is getting ridiculous, now I'm going to have to make phone calls just to not incriminate myself. I have a feeling sooner or later within the next 3-5 years SA will get banned or something will happen to it, now that its becoming more mainstream and the karens are going to start coming out and complaining about the patriarchy.

Has anyone had any success find SBs via other avenues? I've had girls tell me they've had older guys approach them in public or when they were working as waitresses / bartenders but I feel like if I were to do that I'd get #MeToo'd.

Wish I was making 6 figures in 2009 and 2010 when backpage was rippin!

Just want to know if anyone else has hook up with her. Hit me up love to share experiences.

This one is a pro. She used to be in River Grove out of a hotel 6 and now appears to be playing the SB role.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f78bd527-c8eb-407d-9445-f31b77d6f8ff[/URL]

What the hell is going on? I know everyone says it is guys from traditional dating apps coming in and it is more competitive, but what I am noticing is there are alot less girls that are actually active or online.

I thought things would have opened up now with the opening of Covid but it still hasn't happen.

Extremely desperate to meet. Anyone partake? I thought about it but she is too far from me. I am sure half the forum has been with her being how desperate she is to meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9c0a1b52-a10c-497a-bcbb-d1dafc861296[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5602328]If that is true then address any of my questions.[/QUOTE]The questions from your original post (s) betray a total lack of understanding of how the sexual marketplace functions and are loaded with assumptions that were not implied by the OP, but sure let's review:

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5598899]"that paying for girls when younger prevents development of the hunting instinct (game)" Bro, for wanting to drop some truth, that is some pseudoscientific nonsense. I could just as easily say that young dudes gain experience they otherwise would not have when they do this.[/QUOTE]It just depends on the guy. If we're talking about an incel then ofc paying for it would give them valuable experience and a level of comfort around attractive women that they couldn't otherwise have. If we're talking about a reasonably attractive young guy with decent social skills then paying for it could indeed be counterproductive.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600337]1.) If what that original poster had said was true, then he, a guy at older age, would have "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now. Instead, he's hoping for an economic crash because it might increase his odds that he can score some young pussy. Well, why hasn't he "developed" that "instinct" for "the game" by now, if what he said was true? Shouldn't he have reached older age with such developed instincts that he doesn't need to use SA anymore? Shouldn't he be able to charm some coed out of her panties by now if what he was saying was really the way things worked. Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real. Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true.[/QUOTE]None of that follows. First of all "instincts" are not learned, but innate behaviors. Natural chads have solid instincts that they build upon, whereas PUAs learn to emulate and accentuate chad behaviors. Nobody develops instincts or learns to emulate those instincts without a conscious investment of time, energy, trial, and error. Getting older doesn't mean you automatically learn game, even if you had a bunch of partners. Dumb argument.

And not everything needs to be a fucking peer-reviewed scientific study. Try using your own God-given mental faculties instead of outsourcing your opinions to whoever has a distinguished suffix appended to their name.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600337]Sadly, "alpha" "beta" "instincts" "nature", it's all just stupid shit that people say, and it's not real.[/QUOTE]Lolwut? Instincts and nature aren't real? And yeah "alpha" and "beta" are just reductive classifiers for dominant and pushover personalities that we all intuitively understand. Some autists perhaps take these concepts too far and reify them as concrete realities, but that doesn't make them any less valid.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600337]Yeah, it's what people believe and feel but just because you believe something strongly doesn't make it true.[/QUOTE]That goes just as well for everything you said, so it adds nothing to your argument.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600337] 2.) The entire argument makes it seem like humanity's current state of sex and relationships were the same in the past as they are now. Not true. Go back a few hundred years ago and did people get married or have sex for love or attraction? No, people got married and had sex to increase their family wealth. It was basically a transaction that went along the liens of "I'll have claim on some of your family's wealth and in return, you can fuck my daughter.[/QUOTE]This is purely ahistorical gibberish based on idiotic feminist revisionism, as if women never had any agency or freedom until Gloria Steinem appeared. You think courtship wasn't a thing a couple hundred years ago? Or a couple thousand years ago? Just because some cultures and classes arranged marriages doesn't change the fact that men and women interacted socially, expressed mutual attraction, fucked, married, cheated, etc. And what kind of men do you think those women of the past were attracted to? Dominant men of higher status, it's literally that simple.

So yeah, another pants-on-head retarded argument on your part.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600435]I agree that there are lots of factors as to why people are attracted to each other. But look, if your value as a man to other is determined by your ability to attract women then why do so many "leaders" need to pay for it?[/QUOTE]You think the fact that leaders sometimes pay for it means they're not getting it for free or being constantly propositioned? These are not mutually exclusive whatsoever.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600435]I could go on and on about how any of this stuff doesn't have to do with evolution because people having only been hooking up, marrying, and having kids because of "attraction" or "love" for a short amount of time.[/QUOTE]Attraction is not the same thing as love, and humans have been doing all those things because of attraction for as long as there have been humans. I don't even know where you get some of these dumb ideas from. Try reading a book written before 1900 sometime.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600435]I am just saying that people who are critical of people connecting sex with money or claim that "it's weak" are not being historical and they are not even looking at the present right.[/QUOTE]I know you weren't replying to me here but I'm certainly not saying any of that.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5600435]If that were true, why do so many powerful people, young and old, still have transactional sex? Why do people like Jeffrey Epstein exist? Is Donald Trump weak? Bill Clinton? Bill Gates? Anyone tied up with that scandal?[/QUOTE]Agreed. But it doesn't follow from any of this that the alpha / beta or chad / virgin hierarchy isn't a massive factor in attracting women.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5602328]I don't need a fancy degree to see through that silliness, just some common sense. "The experts" you are calling so-called is basically everything that is known about science and the history of people. It's not some small group of professors. It's the sum total of human knowledge. That's why what you're saying is so stupid. The world doesn't work that way. Shit isn't true just because you believe it. If people thought like that, you wouldn't be typing on a computer. If you think you can stick your finger in a light socket only because a "so-called expert" says you cannot, then have at it, bruh.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you need other people's fancy degrees to tell you what to think. And frankly you are not even aware of what those various credentialed people are saying, or the current state of the debate in academia, like even a little bit. Most likely you've been impressed by the infity articles from lefty journo hacks on how the manosphere is toxic pseudoscience.

In other words you're being a propaganda parrot for an agenda you don't even comprehend. But yeah dude, human history and sexual dynamics are totally like scientific theories of gravity and electricity. There's no epistemological distance there at all 🤣.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5602328]Also, " If she's regularly seeing you for $5 ppm she probably turned down and ignored dozens of higher offers for $6, $7, and up. " This might be the statement of a "simp" after all because bro, she is going to fuck you for $5 and then she is going to fuck the others too $6, $7, and up, and she is going to make all that $. Let me get this straight, what you're saying is, basically, you think the girls you pay $5 for sex actually like you and are not doing it for the money? Bruh, you're in a category called "chump" if you believe that.[/QUOTE]Bro, if you never learned how to distinguish between real and solely-financial attraction from a girl, then you're clearly the chump here.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5602328]Btw, bro, you're using a board about SA and transactional sex to discourage young guys from using SA and having transactional sex. It's like your "inner Taliban," which might be as real as your so-called "instinct" is fighting with your need to use SA. If you don't need it, don't use it. You do you. But I'll just say that everything you said, could have been said by Tom Dart, and I cannot help but wonder if that's you behind the screen, Tommy.[/QUOTE]That's someone else, I'm not discouraging shit. As for all the "right-wing Taliban" crap maybe stop regurgitating basic bi*ch MSNPC memes, for fuck's sake. No clue who Tom Dart is or why he's relevant to anything.

BTW I've focused on your comments because they're some of the dumbest shit ITT, but frankly there are a lot of other posters here with their heads up their asses. Sadly (or not) I've got hot babes who need fucking, so their takedowns will have to wait.

In the sa world girls on there to get paid for their pussy, and that's what theyall want, your money for her pussy.

In the real world, anything can happen you can be older like her boss, manager, older friends of the family, ect but not 70's tho, and you may get lucky and fuck a 20's-30's years old for free, but the situations have to be perfect, or your world have to be in perfect order for that to happen. You see it all the time, manager / boss fucking employee, law makers fucking intern, secretary ect. Old movies star or rock stars fuck young followers, but the real real world is not the sa world, yes if you are a 40's year old rock star movie star you can fuck young 20's girls fan for free, again that's not the sa world.

so if you want to fuck hot young coed on sa, expected to paid her, if you want to fuck fat old ladies on sa, you may or may not get lucky, and personal number scale mean nothing because one man number 10, can be another man number 4, so personal number scale is useless

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5602677]This one is a pro. She used to be in River Grove out of a hotel 6 and now appears to be playing the SB role.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f78bd527-c8eb-407d-9445-f31b77d6f8ff[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://tiaano.net/cassy-3/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pal5600;5602810]In the sa world girls on there to get paid for their pussy, and that's what theyall want, your money for her pussy.

In the real world, anything can happen you can be older like her boss, manager, older friends of the family, ect but not 70's tho, and you may get lucky and fuck a 20's-30's years old for free, but the situations have to be perfect, or your world have to be in perfect order for that to happen. You see it all the time, manager / boss fucking employee, law makers fucking intern, secretary ect. Old movies star or rock stars fuck young followers, but the real real world is not the sa world, yes if you are a 40's year old rock star movie star you can fuck young 20's girls fan for free, again that's not the sa world.

so if you want to fuck hot young coed on sa, expected to paid her, if you want to fuck fat old ladies on sa, you may or may not get lucky, and personal number scale mean nothing because one man number 10, can be another man number 4, so personal number scale is useless[/QUOTE]Well this happened a few years ago. I can't even get a M&G these days. I also must be blocked by a bunch since I click on links and see girls I have never seen before.

Second meet, and greet, I ever had, she recommended hotel since we could talk in private,(darn was I clueless) asked me to bring booze. Pics very deceptive, weirdly shaped huge bottom half. Ended up fucking. I was waiting for her to ask for cash but nothing. Later started texting asking to meet, but wanted an arrangement, so I guess she threw out a freebie hoping to get money later. Just too big.

Started to figure out how SA worked and started getting some play. Hit a slump and called in a slump buster. A little bit chunky not too big, but pretty boring fuck. Also wanted a strange amount $170, I guess she didn't want to be a $150 girl. She kept contacting me, I kept coming up with excuses on why I could not meet. Finally I told her I lost my job and could not afford it any more.

She invited me to her house for free. I went but afterwards got the impression she wanted a bf / gf relationship. I bailed.

Hit another slump and wow fucked the fattest chick I ever fucked. I hated myself and changed my burner number.

But now I can't even get fat chicks to accept my money. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Time to hit the AMPs or apartments. I am useless on SA right now.