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[QUOTE=AdcFellow;6177198]FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.[/QUOTE]Traveling to Costa Rica in the spring. From reading other forums, I know that pro's are prevalent and fairly easy to connect with. However, thinking that the SB route could be rewarding. Staying in a nice house on the beach, and having a different young lady each night (or maybe a couple of repeats) would be awesome.

[QUOTE=MilesNoDavis;6177315]I don't even bother to openly share information anymore. I've been blocked or given enough clues by some SBs who I'm certain have seen my reports here. If it's not a request via DM, I keep my fingers silent and comments to myself.[/QUOTE]Same, I tend to prefer girls who come off as low volume, so am always worried that I would be easily identified regardless of how little detail I provide. The few times I've given an actual review, it was always for someone who was probably high volume.

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;6177198]FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I'd never considered Seeking in Europe. (I'm assuming the 330 ppm was £300 versus $300 - still a bargain!

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[QUOTE=TopGun9;6175266]I do agree everything is relative.

But I have to disagree here.

If I have a yacht, mansion, and millions in my bank account then I am not wasting time on SA trying to find young pussies. These guys are not my competitions on SA.[/QUOTE]The rich dudes may not be on SA, but the girls they fuck are on Seeking, as well as dabbling in just hanging out with the yacht crowd and freestyling. I know this because I've literally had M&G's with them.

Earlier this year, had a dinner M&G with a bottle girl who works at Opera in DC. I knew her before I found her SA profile because she's friends with another bottle girl that I'm friends with, so I found her IG. When we met, I made the mistake of spilling the beans after she said she worked at a couple clubs in DC that I used to go to. Told her I knew this person and that person, are they still around, etc. That probably scared her off, she didn't like that I knew all these people who knew her. Either that or it's because I don't drive a Benz lmao.

I've also talked on SA with a bottle girl out in Vegas, although it didn't get to a M&G. Point I'm trying to make is, these girls are on SA and out in the wild hanging out on yachts. If one of the rich guys propositions her first, well then she's going to stop talking to you on SA even though you were setting up a M&G or discussing allowance or whatever. The rich dudes don't swim in the SA pool, the girls they fuck and you fuck are the ones swimming in both pools.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6175123]Seen her quite a few times. 300 was the damage. All holes open BBFS. Was a good time but like op said super ghetto and smells like smoke. You can taste it when you kiss her. It's not weed, I'm not sure exactly what it is. She has a very slim body, tattoos all over as well as under her eye. I stopped seeing her after she, without my permission started smoking in my hotel bathroom. I kept it cool but I was steaming. How are you going to smoke in a non smoking room? Are you that much of a fiend that you can't wait till you leave? Next time I saw her was my last. She smoked in the Airbnb I rented and burned her he owners bathroom table and left ashes all over. I didn't see if check but got a surprise email message from the owner asking me to pay for the table.[/QUOTE]I'm glad she didn't do that to me lmao. I noticed the smell on her breath too. Her Bush was also huge, and she has curly black girl hair so it was all clumpy and knotted. Such a turnoff. She said she was getting waxed soon, maybe it will be better.

[QUOTE=Arty33;6175360]While the PP's post hits the point on DC being one of the richest in the nation with guys that can throw away money, the girls that frequent them aren't likely on SA, and I am yet to see a hot 22 year old real cheerleader on SA anyway. One of the girls I was seeing told me there are guys who offer 5 k meet, but they also want the girls to do many things that no one will want to do, and that's reason for those offers. Think of fetishes that are way outside normal and these guys have weird vibes that scares them away. I don't think a rich and successful guy with the yacht is trolling on SA, hitting up 100's of profiles with 90% of them being fake, flake, or catfish. The truth is in between blue collar guys and the rich dudes with yachts. It is a mixed bag when it comes to guys as well as gals on SA, they run the middle spectrum of the society for the most part, with some outliers possible.[/QUOTE]Yea there's the weirdos who offer $5 k to piss on girls, but there's also regular dudes with a lot of money who nab these girls up too. Also, the best girls aren't on SA because they usually don't need to put out that much effort to snare a high value man. Here's an example:

You guys know Sean McVay, the head coach of the LA Rams? Won the Superbowl last year, youngest NFL head coach ever, youngest Superbowl coach ever, etc etc. Well, he actually used to work for the Redskins. He was our Offensive Coordinator a while back, he was a TE coach before that.

McVay's wife is a girl named Veronika McVay (Khomyn). Super hot Ukrainian babe, you can Google her. They met when she was a student at George Mason and doing modeling and bottle service on the side, and he was a TE coach. As he got promotions, he's making pretty decent money. Even as just a TE coach, he's making low to mid 6 figures at least, and as an OC he's making near 7 figures or just over. Now as the Rams' HC and having won a Super Bowl, he makes an estimated 15 - 18 M, highest paid HC of all time. And, no homo but Sean McVay is a good looking dude, young and in shape.

This is what being a truly hot girl can get you, if you network correctly and aren't a fucked up druggie. A multi-millionaire hot guy your age that you'd be fucking anyway, but now he comes with a California mansion and insane clout as basically the best head coach this side of Bill Belichick. Veronika scored him without having to screen through a single fucked up offer to shit on her feet for $4 k, as far as I know.

She's not the only one BTW. I knew Veronika before she was e-famous too, when she was a bottle girl. She has a bunch of hot friends who all have high value boyfriends. One dude owns an Alfa Romeo dealership, another dude idk what he does but he and her are always on yachts together. For some reason the dude never smiles in photos with her LOL. All of them are 40 or under, and good looking.

Point is, yes these girls exist, some are on Seeking and some aren't. They def receive attention from very rich and very hot dudes, and these guys make it easy for the girls to enjoy the good life without having to step on SA. Some do still step on SA, but even then they got a foot in both lawns, and whichever has greener grass atm is the one they pitch a blanket on and strip naked to tan. Sometimes it's an SA dude, most likely one offering much more than $300 PPM. Many times it's rich dudes that meet them socially.

[QUOTE=Cruisin1011;6175483]Maybe they have an assistant doing it for them. I learned to about seeking from another bored in Texas. They had a regular sb section like this and more affluent section for a much higher dollar threshold. Those were the global SD's. Stories of yachts, flying sb out and the such. Just because this community supports a particular course of action does mean all will.

In Texas it was widely accepted that the sb, even on this level, would go to dinner, have some hotel fun, then discuss an arrangement. It was like tryouts and it was awesome. That was years ago. Paying before hand was really condemned by that community and it held up well for a while.

Pay don't pay it's all up to you. But as was said, if I can get a piece to show up for nice dinner and reasonable payment, I weigh time vs investment. Some on here act as if others are completely ruining their game by doing this. It's an evolving free market, maybe one of the last free ones LOL.[/QUOTE]Rich dudes sometimes have assistants, sometimes they don't need them. The tech bro paying $20 k to date Sophia Mudd met her at a mansion party in Beverly Hills. The party was thrown by his buddy who runs a modeling and influencer company.

I'm nowhere near their level, but even I've been invited to high-value, exclusive events. Went to Pinterest HQ in 2018 to hear a talk by their founders (both billionaires now) about their starting days and why they decided to found Pinterest. Coolest part about their HQ is that they have

1. A huge lego board about 20 feet x 20 feet, decorated with their name and all these other designs and motifs, and it hangs on the wall near their entrance.

2. They have a fucking massive cereal bar. Like 20 dispensers with every brand you can think of, from healthy shit to Cocoa Puffs. 3 industrial-sized refrigerators with every type of milk you could want. A whole wall of cabinets with different bowls and cutlery. The whole area had to be at least the size of a McDonalds building, and it was just for cereal. I didn't partake.

I've been invited to a private dinner event in some dude's mansion backyard in the hills overlooking San Jose. I knew it was serious when I pull up in my rental car and there's literally the thing you see in movies, that roundabout in front of the house with a fountain in the middle. Walk through the house and there's Greek sculptures in the corners. Walk out to the back yard and it's got 3 terraces built into 3 levels that goes down to lawn level. Huge fountain out back too. After dinner, we got to hear from the VP of Marketing for Samsung talk about WTF they were doing when their phones were fucking exploding and TSA banned them from going on airplanes.

Keep in mind, these are just the business events. These aren't the private parties or fun events where the hot chicks come as +1's or atmosphere models are hired to stand around and look beautiful. And, I'm fucking broke compared to the rest of the attendees, they probably get access to way better shit than I do. They could easily meet more than enough potential sugar babies without ever going on SA if they didn't want to. Hell, at that level of wealth, just live in LA, Vegas, or NYC and shell out $25 k on bottles for a couple weekends. Your name will get passed around and the bottle girls open to sucking and fucking for a nice Hollywood Hills apartment and a Mercedes will make themselves known.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;6175746]All valid points. DC, Nova Babies that are in their 30's, out of shape & not attractive get $400 plus. It's why I Sugar from Fredericksburg south, including the rest of Virginia and all of North Carolina. My allowance is usually $300, as low as $200, no higher that $400, but only rarely $400. If I were to post pics of my top 10, over the last three years you'd be shocked. Including two 18 why o hammers, all the rest, 20-23 y o, one 31 y o that could pass for 21.

Bottom line, I'm not buying a mansion in Beverly Hills or Sugaring in DC. I did do a 22 y o Nova ebony princess, but when she was in college at a state school in Virginia.

$300, did her twice alone then brought her to my buddies lake house for some MFM fun. She stayed the night for $300 each. Unlimited pops, BB everything, no Greek. Unfortunately now that she moved back with mommy & daddy, she's out of the game & deleted her Seeking profile.[/QUOTE]I wish I liked black or asian girls, it'd open up my options immensely. I only like white girls or white-skinned latinas, preferably with straight hair.

I also would sugar away from DC, but I don't have time to be driving down to Richmond or Charlottesville. I think for normal dudes, it's way better to live near Ohio State or Arizona State or something, college towns where there's not as many rich men but plenty of hot young women. The big cities are more advantageous for men with means.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6178288]The rich dudes may not be on SA, but the girls they fuck are on Seeking, as well as dabbling in just hanging out with the yacht crowd and freestyling. I know this because I've literally had M&G's with them.

Earlier this year, had a dinner M&G with a bottle girl who works at Opera in DC. I knew her before I found her SA profile because she's friends with another bottle girl that I'm friends with, so I found her IG. When we met, I made the mistake of spilling the beans after she said she worked at a couple clubs in DC that I used to go to. Told her I knew this person and that person, are they still around, etc. That probably scared her off, she didn't like that I knew all these people who knew her. Either that or it's because I don't drive a Benz lmao.

I've also talked on SA with a bottle girl out in Vegas, although it didn't get to a M&G. Point I'm trying to make is, these girls are on SA and out in the wild hanging out on yachts. If one of the rich guys propositions her first, well then she's going to stop talking to you on SA even though you were setting up a M&G or discussing allowance or whatever. The rich dudes don't swim in the SA pool, the girls they fuck and you fuck are the ones swimming in both pools.

[/QUOTE]All you say is true and I do not disagree but here are some facts, only 0. 1% of Americans make over $1 M / year. The guys you speak of make way more than that and are an even smaller percentage of the 0. 1%. Sure these girls swim in both pools and we are competing with these guys for the same girls and of course a girl is going to choose one of these guys over us if given the choice but for every 1 of them, there are 999 of us, probably more like 9999 of us. Yes, these guys will get a disproportionate percentage of girls since I'm sure they like to fuck more than one of them but by our sheer numbers, we will get the majority of the girls. That's why regular guys like you and me each can have a small stable of SBs. Maybe they are not a good looking as the girls the top 1% of the top 0. 1% will get, but we find diamonds in the rough. And sure, the really good looking girls don't have to work as SBs or as hard as the uglier ones to get what they want but that has always been true. Good looking chicks get the best looking and the richest guys (as well as rich ugly guys) but that has also always been true. So not all is doom and gloom otherwise this thread would not exist.

While I agree with everything in the previous post, the thought that came to mind is same, it is all about numbers and law of averages. These girls who go on yachts and not all invited, it is sometimes they know a friend who is invited, or a friend of a friend, and gets to tag along. The rich dudes with the yacht and cereal bar the size of McDonalds don't care how many girls are coming to eat his cereal. LOL. I mean so long as they are relatively hot they get to go. Ugly and out of shape chicks are out of luck.

So, yes we are in a way competing, but no so because 99% of these girls don't get to score with the rich dudes, they have a lot to chose from and a few lucky ones get it, even among those who do, the guys will drop them after a night and a few bucks or some expensive gifts. They go find the next hot girl, as there is always another party as said where hot chicks are flocking to. So, if we aren't settling for one hot girl then why would the rich dudes settle for one, so they come back to bowl, expect same, but when they don't get it, and they don't get another rich guy, they'll settle for us. I have fucked at least two such girls who could easily be on a yacht hanging out with the rich hot guys. These girls are back to earth probably, but may be still waiting their chance, remember they only have time until about 25 or so, after that no one wants them. I don't these days see anyone who look older than 25.

Bottomline, yeah they may wish to get paid for M&G and big expensive gifts, but aren't getting it, they can try their luck on the yacht if they get invited, fine by me, there will always be spillover ad the percentage of rich guys and the proportion of hot girls are not even.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6178430]All you say is true and I do not disagree but here are some facts, only 0. 1% of Americans make over $1 M / year. The guys you speak of make way more than that and are an even smaller percentage of the 0. 1%. Sure these girls swim in both pools and we are competing with these guys for the same girls and of course a girl is going to choose one of these guys over us if given the choice but for every 1 of them, there are 999 of us, probably more like 9999 of us. Yes, these guys will get a disproportionate percentage of girls since I'm sure they like to fuck more than one of them but by our sheer numbers, we will get the majority of the girls. That's why regular guys like you and me each can have a small stable of SBs. Maybe they are not a good looking as the girls the top 1% of the top 0. 1% will get, but we find diamonds in the rough. And sure, the really good looking girls don't have to work as SBs or as hard as the uglier ones to get what they want but that has always been true. Good looking chicks get the best looking and the richest guys (as well as rich ugly guys) but that has also always been true. So not all is doom and gloom otherwise this thread would not exist.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/25d52c2e-245c-410e-8bf3-c9e0f27185b7[/URL]

I am always suspicious when they give me their number right away and don't ask to see my pics.

[QUOTE=DCKing;6179012][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/25d52c2e-245c-410e-8bf3-c9e0f27185b7[/URL]

I am always suspicious when they give me their number right away and don't ask to see my pics.[/QUOTE]She / he will share pics of some only fans model or some such bs.

I waited for her to send me pics vids and promised to pay $50. When she sent them, ai informed her / him that I made the payment on the only fans model's website.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a40ba1e5-622e-428f-ae6d-29ef488c817e[/URL]

Asks for 200. Location in Venezuela.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/66b9d18f-8b60-4e4f-a50b-c14aed282fc1[/URL]

[URL]https://instagram.com/damariscampov?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[/URL]

6 to 7 YMMV.

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;6177198]FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.[/QUOTE]Venezuela seems like a hotspot. 😅.

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6177674]Traveling to Costa Rica in the spring. From reading other forums, I know that pro's are prevalent and fairly easy to connect with. However, thinking that the SB route could be rewarding. Staying in a nice house on the beach, and having a different young lady each night (or maybe a couple of repeats) would be awesome.[/QUOTE]I used seeking about 2 months ago in Costa Rica, it was excellent, best results are in San Jose. If you go to the beach areas like Jaco, it's best to just go to the bar's and par take on the extensive choices in person and negotiate live. Enjoy.

New here to the forums wish I knew this existed. Long time SA user since like 2017?

Anyways has anyone bagged Mariposa?

Would like to hear experiences.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59d2d028-d5b3-4200-950b-d2fd053ce4f7[/URL]

Also I'm talking to MysticalGorgeous any reviews on her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb3a9055-8815-4f2e-b571-49fd62d7bbb7[/URL]

Talking to Nillaaa, would like intel. Always skeptical on ghettoness of MD girls.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e0f666b-498b-4194-9835-f7ed2d698652[/URL]

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6160378]Nah, wants 750 - 800 firm.

I guess I'm fugly now since everyone wants to charge me fugly prices.[/QUOTE]I met her out next to the Starbucks by her apartment. She's too Asian looking in person for me. Pics look better than what she looks in real life. I made an excuse to go to my car and dipped.