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[QUOTE=LexLuther]However if the price did go from $160 to $220[/QUOTE]I realize that this is pure blasphemy around these parts, but if that's what it would take to get the general quality level back to what it was 5 years ago, I'd gladly pay it.
Be that as it may, could somebody please explain to me when this form changed from USASexGuide to USAEconGuide?
One relevant question: Can anyone remember how long the rate has been 160? I can't.
Did a quick intel prep before heading into DC and with all of the debating about pricing going on, the only lead I saw on the first few pages was Vivi at Sky (aka 14K)
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So I headed there and asked the mamasan for Vivi. Vivi came in and asked how I knew her. I told her a friend from yesterday recommended her. She asked who? So I said 'Joe' ;) She continued to inquire, then said 'tell me the truth - you read something on internet, right?' I winked and said 'maybe'.
Well... skipping the small chat (which there was a lot of), she is a real sweetie! Great attitude, killer tight body with a nice firm, round butt, fake tits (but still soft enough not to distract), and nice long permed hair. She took her time with everything... TS, massage, and FS. The best AMP experience I've had in DC. Well... that's not really saying that much, because previous experiences have been so mediocre, but this is ONE that I would definitely repeat.
About her story... she has worked here before at M street, but says its closed now. She lives in Queens where she just goes clubbing and shopping with her friends every day. Been in the US for 3 years (she's 26), but speaks great Engrish considering. She'll be working at Sky for about a month before going back to NY. I asked if she would mind if I mentioned something here, and she said 'sure - as long as its good!' Well... there you have it. :)
LT
ps I didn't read all the debating that's going on here lately, but looks like its regarding prices (I may be wrong). So I asked Vivi how much she expected for FS - she said $100, and tip if she takes good care of you. Added with $60 house fee, that's $160, right? Nothing to talk about (sorry if I'm totally out of place with my quick assessment of the debate). I'll take my 2 cents back now. ;)
[QUOTE=Junky11]One relevant question: Can anyone remember how long the rate has been 160? I can't.[/QUOTE]That is when I started, and it was $160 then. Think about that. The strength of the dollar back then, better service back then, and no increases. We have been spoiled.
I've seen no change in prices for 10 years at AMPs. But what is interesting is the difference between AMP and escorts has widened. I remember some of the first escorts I saw were at $160 to $220 so there was not a big price gap. You went to AMPs for the extra shower and massage experience. I think escort prices have just about doubled since then.
[QUOTE=Ginger Man]That is when I started, and it was $160 then. Think about that. The strength of the dollar back then, better service back then, and no increases. We have been spoiled.[/QUOTE]
Found the remodeling traffic below while reading. These were posted in late May. Does anyone know if it is open again? There have been no post since the May quote below. I visited 1333 in the Winter and was very happy. If it is closed I will have to visit another establishment.
Thanks
SG
[QUOTE=DickAllMighty]Confirmed. I went by there this weekend and saw the same thing.
Fellas, I was denied not once but three times this weekend.
First I went to K. I think this must have been the first time I've been there on a weekend night, because I saw that the bar above had set up a booth right in front of the stairway and there was a bouncer/door guy there. Are some of you guys aware that this was happening? I looked online and I think the bar was opened this past December. I was there maybe a couple of months ago, but I think it was in the afternoon and I had no trouble getting in. What's up with this bar anyway? I wonder if the owners know about the establishment. And if they do, would they complain? I think if they complained, LE would be pressured to shut it down. I think I might stay away from now on so as to not risk being caught in a bust.
So then I tried fourth floor at Conn. I rang the bell three times and still no answer. I've been there several times and they always answered on the first ring. I wonder if for some reason they thought I was LE?
Then I went by Green and saw the same sign Dog Bone saw. And that's a shame. I think Green has an excellent location, the kind of location that people wouldn't complain about.
The only other establishments I've been to are all closed, except for third floor M and IHC. I'm never going back to third floor M again after having been overcharged there, and I've never felt comfortable with the parking situation at IHC. So I just aborted for the night.
The scene is getting kind of dire in DC. I'm on the verge of just giving up the hobby or finding another hunting ground.[/QUOTE]
The nastiest climb in town is alive and well. Sunday night (early Monday morning) met "Suzy" after one ring. Utilitarian looks and service. Meaty physique (not fat) and a non-personality who probably could not believe that I would sustain mish for damn near an hour - having skipped the shower and getting right to business. Did my best to convert the fake moans into real ones.
[QUOTE=Junky11]One relevant question: Can anyone remember how long the rate has been 160? I can't.[/QUOTE]
It seems to me 150 was the price until 1997 or 98. The house fee is what went up 10. I do run into a provider who wants an extra 20 every now and again but it usually adds up to rushed service. I always lay five jacksons down when I go in, I hate to discuss money in any way with the lady.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]But still wrong...
Now, assume I have $160 per month to dedicate to these activities and I do so once per month. That means I have 12X160 or $1,920 per year for all this and I provide these girls with income from me 12 times.
SO - they raise the price just $20, which you say is no big deal. Now my $1,920 must be divided by 180 which comes out to be just 10 and two thirds sessions per year.
Since that is not really acceptable to me, I would be hitting up the available action of CL which will take care of me for $150 or less and then I will be able to take care of business 12.8 times per year or more and the AMP girls will LOSE that $1,920.
In truth, I would be doing some of each to cure my itch but STILL the AMP would LOSE whatever money I spend on the CL trade.
Comparing this to gas for the car of food for the kitchen is simply piss poor thinking because, if need be, I can take care of the itch manually and not spend ANY cash and I CANNOT take care of the gas for the car or the food for the kitchen on my own.
THAT is the fact of life in this case and in this arena. ANYTHING else is just so much head noise (or keyboard clicking) and not worth the time spent doing so.
Peace!
JJ[/QUOTE]
Lex's analysis is on point! Slease you know you might even be abel to overcome a price hike if you are a regular;however, it would bbring resentment overtime as you will get a reputation as a cheap charlie!
They are raising prices BECAUSE they Can! Obviously business is good (demand)..they wouldn't raise prices if business was slow..that would not make sense..geeze business is terrrible no one is coming here so let's raise prices.
Finally if you spent your $1920 elswhre the AMP would be better off ...they could get 12 visits by someone willing to pay the extra $20-40. Just pay the increase and smile.
Don't get me wrong I don't like price hikes but I like the AMPs and girls. Give em a break. They earn every buck they make.
Peace Dude
That is all!
If anyone still feels the need to argue please do it via PM so the ones who are still stuck on a slow connection do not have to slog through all this useless stuff.
I still stand by my own assessment and will not argue further.
JJ
[QUOTE=Asianflu]Lex's analysis is on point! Slease you know you might even be abel to overcome a price hike if you are a regular;however, it would bbring resentment overtime as you will get a reputation as a cheap charlie!
They are raising prices BECAUSE they Can! Obviously business is good (demand)..they wouldn't raise prices if business was slow..that would not make sense..geeze business is terrrible no one is coming here so let's raise prices.
Finally if you spent your $1920 elswhre the AMP would be better off ...they could get 12 visits by someone willing to pay the extra $20-40. Just pay the increase and smile.
Don't get me wrong I don't like price hikes but I like the AMPs and girls. Give em a break. They earn every buck they make.
Peace Dude[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asianflu]Lex's analysis is on point! Slease you know you might even be abel to overcome a price hike if you are a regular;however, it would bbring resentment overtime as you will get a reputation as a cheap charlie!
They are raising prices BECAUSE they Can! Obviously business is good (demand)..they wouldn't raise prices if business was slow..that would not make sense..geeze business is terrrible no one is coming here so let's raise prices.
Finally if you spent your $1920 elswhre the AMP would be better off ...they could get 12 visits by someone willing to pay the extra $20-40. Just pay the increase and smile.
Don't get me wrong I don't like price hikes but I like the AMPs and girls. Give em a break. They earn every buck they make.
Peace Dude[/QUOTE]
Bottom line is, if prices keep going higher, alternatives become more available, which ultimately brings prices back inline, it's the beauty of capitalism.
RE: Prices in the DC area, they have been quite stable for some time now, even if spa owners, collectively, have tried to raise prices!
Lastly, for the sake of these hard working spa girls, I suggest someone bring back the "$10 coupon"!! :D
MnV
Hey,
let us get back to talking about boobies and vaginas.
:)
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Love tractor and Readerx or any of the pundits,
I drove by the building yesterday. If I found easy parking I was going to go in for 30 minutes as I was bit rushed. No parking around so I moved on. I will try again tomorrow. Is there a name or sign indicating the floor and door #. I saw a tattoo shop next to the main door. Correct building right?
Thank you
Vitrea
[QUOTE=Ginger Man]That is when I started, and it was $160 then. Think about that. The strength of the dollar back then, better service back then, and no increases. We have been spoiled.[/QUOTE]Prices are same since I started also. Big difference: mostly used to get full hour until last couple years. Now seems only place gives full hour is Rio. 1818 try and rush yuo out after half hour if you let them.
[QUOTE=Vitrea]Love tractor and Readerx or any of the pundits,
I drove by the building yesterday. If I found easy parking I was going to go in for 30 minutes as I was bit rushed. No parking around so I moved on. I will try again tomorrow. Is there a name or sign indicating the floor and door #. I saw a tattoo shop next to the main door. Correct building right?
Thank you
Vitrea[/QUOTE]Hmmm. I don't recall a tattoo parlor, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. You saw my map, right? The address is on the front of the building, and the entrance is downstairs (basement level). There's a parking garage on the other side of the block, as I recall.
HTH,
LT
Saw Vivi (or Bebe) at 14k. I'd give her 7s or 8s across the board. A little businesslike at first, but more relaxed later on. Thorough TS - maybe a little too thorough, such as washing my arms 3 times. Great massage and good main event - would repeat. But between her and Rose, I would probably opt for Rose again.
[QUOTE=Vitrea]Love tractor and Readerx or any of the pundits,
I drove by the building yesterday. If I found easy parking I was going to go in for 30 minutes as I was bit rushed. No parking around so I moved on. I will try again tomorrow. Is there a name or sign indicating the floor and door #. I saw a tattoo shop next to the main door. Correct building right?
Thank you
Vitrea[/QUOTE]Actually, its not a tattoo shop, that's the name of a club!
[QUOTE=Macphisto]Saw Vivi (or Bebe) at 14k. I'd give her 7s or 8s across the board. A little businesslike at first, but more relaxed later on. Thorough TS - maybe a little too thorough, such as washing my arms 3 times. Great massage and good main event - would repeat. But between her and Rose, I would probably opt for Rose again.[/QUOTE]
I too have noticed "the wash & rinse cycle" at 14K takes a bit longer than one expects!
MnV
[QUOTE=Macphisto]... But between her and Rose, I would probably opt for Rose again.[/QUOTE]Better than Vivi? Not that Vivi was *that* great, but as I mentioned previously most of the AMP girls were mediocre at best. So I decided that I would have to check out this Rose.
Got to Sky at about 11:15 and asked for Rose. Mama said that Rose had an 11:30 appt. (You guys make appts? ). Vivi was busy as well. So. I ended up with Diane.
Diane was a little thick around the waste and shoulders, big (natural? ) breasts, skinny legs and no butt to speak of. Not my cup of tea, but since I was already there I went ahead and tried to make the best of it. (Besides, I'm in training for upcoming trip to LoS)
Other than her looks not being my preference, everything was pleasant and not rushed. TS and massage were nice, then on to the fun part. This was the first time I've had a girl put the condom just on the head of my soldier juring the BJ, which certainly made it more enjoyable for me The rest was just OK. Nothing I would look forward to repeating.
LT
Saw an interesting ad in CL that had some promise to it. Called the number and got the address of the AMP. Price seemed right (.8/hr), so I gave it a go.
The name is Day Spa, 6676 Arlington blvd.
Well turns out that this is a just a regular, 'ol spa, but I did get a pretty good massage. You have to do your own shower, but the steam/shower facilities are nice.
I think her name was Jenny. Had me covered with a sheet the whole time. Very professional. Not even a hint of extras.
Looks 5
Attitude 3
Massage 8
Extras ZERO
Conversation NIL
After the massage, she looked longingly for a tip, but since she never even hinted at anything beyond a basic massage, I'm like "Bu bye." Said thank you and left.
Sometimes a massage is all I need. But that is extremely rare.
Stay away from Day Spa.
New Man
Long time reader, first time poster.
I headed to 14K and asked the Mamasan for Rose. Rose was all tied up, with an important assignment that would take her another 40 minutes or so. (I wonder what it was?) Mamasan calls for a lineup (of 3 girls) and I shrewdly asked for Vivi.
Vivi came in and asked how I knew her. I told her about the internet. Vivi is very into this internet stuff and wanted the website. She then asked what I had read and I told her I heard that her TS was good, massage was so so, and ending was good.
Needless to say I am now very clean, especially my legs and feet. Since her massage rating was so so, Vivi put some real effort into it. Good massage! The main event started well when Vivi came close to AR. Things became a little challenging, as soldier boy has gotten tired with age. So, Vivi used some awesome muscle control to help things out. I must give credit where it is due; Vivi can do kegels! Eventually she gave the tired soldier a helping hand. Things got all messy and I requested a 2nd TS. Vivi checked with Mamasan and got the green light. Now this was good service! She even asked me to take 2 candies on the way out!
I would definitely repeat with Vivi! I’m giving her 8’s and 9’s across the board, because she was willing to do what it took to please. It was the kind of situation where she could have left me hanging and a CL girl would have! The Mamasan at 14K is also very nice. This is the first time I have seen her.
I chatted with Vivi long enough for her to repeat LT’s background intel:
"About her story... she has worked here before at M street, but says its closed now. She lives in Queens where she just goes clubbing and shopping with her friends every day. Been in the US for 3 years (she's 26), but speaks very great Engrish considering. …"
During the warm-ups I let Vivi know what I wanted and she definitely listened. I also promised to post about her before we started. Perhaps that helped? More importantly, she wanted to improve her performance. Let her know about the AR thing if you’re into it and you just might get lucky.
For the record, I dished out the standard fare.
It was actually quite easy to find the place once I got to the building.
As posted before, Mamasan was friendly. I let her choose. She sent Sora (not Sura). She asked me if I had been before and collected her the standard house fee.
TS was fantastic. Lot of attention and through. Not rushed at all. = 9
massage was decent. She is obviously not trained, like most KMPs but she did her best. = 6
She accepted a reverse massage and enjoyed it with no restrictions = 9
The service and finish were fantastic. I will leave the details out of the general forum = 9
face. A bit too much makeup. = 7
body = 8.5
attitude = 9.
She is a must repeat and I did repeat the next day. The next day she used some of the massage moves I showed her the day before and the session was even better....PM me if you have any specific questions.
Commuter05: Very nice first post. Please keep up.
I happened to see Vivi before I read his review and my experience is identical. I will save bandwidth by not repeating what was stated so well.
I would also rate Vivi equally in ALL aspects I rated Sora except, for Vivi Body = 9 and attitude = 8.
My overall experience with Vivi was also exceptional. I would have a hard time choosing between Sora and Vivi. You guys are lucky to have two good providers at the same location.
Saw Rose awhile back. Keep up the good work guys; she's just as reported. She is tiny!
I made a boneheaded move and got the house fee and tip swapped. She got a kick out of that. When she took the fees I guess she saw a past customer in the hall, she was gone for about 5 minutes. Got her undivided GFE like attention when she got back. Definite repeat.
TS - 8
Massage - 6
Main event - 8
Does anyone know if Green is reopening? I would really like to know what happened to Sue from there. If you have any info please let me know.
Thanks
BDD
I know the grim is not the only one who has enjoyed a GFE like his.
Why have none of you weighed in ? I have
Hey fellow mongers,
Just to pass on knowledge already attainable on this board, Rose at 14k is AMAZING. Sexy, fit, skills, and fun. What a winner. Beacause she already has some good reviews, I'm not going to go into details.
One thing though, I tried to get a line up this morning (10ish am), but no go! I'm sure there where girls there, I saw Dianne walking around when I got out of the TS. I'm just waiting for that moment when 3-5 gorgeous asian heinnas stand in front of me and I just pick the hottest! Any tips for my next visit on how to get a good line up? I asked mamsan a couple times for a line up, said I'd like to choose my girl. She just kept saying I give you best girl (ahhh Rose).
Help me get my moment to choose my girl!
Thanks,
Rusian
Just finished my 3rd and best visit yet with that little red flower over at 14K. Services just keep getting better and better, I completed the task in as many weeks and though it might be time to move on(?), I recommend her to all newcomers. A bit of advice...be nice and the sky is the limit with this one!! :p
MnV
Why do you want one of us to start things off for you?
Let me see: You use your inaugural post to try to stampede others on the forum into flaming or critiquing an established monger. May I suggest that it was (1) in poor taste and (2) a waste of your first post, when you might have introduced yourself and begun establishing cred in a far more productive and positive way. Instead, you begin with what amounts to little more than trolling for a contentious thread.
This Roman Senator humbly offers the suggestion that you get thee hence, do some useful recon, and provide actionable intel.
[QUOTE=Nsurgury]I know the grim is not the only one who has enjoyed a GFE like his.
Why have none of you weighed in ? I have[/QUOTE]
RM,
First of all I believe you mean hyenas. Why you would call these ladies hyenas is beyond me. They are women, not dogs and certainly not the dog-like creatures normally referred to by the term hyena.
Oh and by the way, Russian (as you can see from my spelling of it) has two "s"'s in the middle of the word. It is "Russian" and not rusian. Also the word Asian is normally capitalized.
If you can't learn to express yourself in English, I will have to ask that you be banned from the sites.
LexLuther
Lex ,
Lighten the fuck up.
Rocket
Well I broke down and wandered down to K St to see what all the fuss was about. Did not, however, remember to ask for some particular flower and was instead dealt Diane. she's not a spinner and is a bit older but we both had an excellent time. Now I have to go back and try someone else too. Hope everyone's still there when I get back.
Stay safe,
af
I got Sura? Cute, braces, blonde streaks. Very nice time. Outstanding part of the session was the prolonged sucking, licking, teasing of my balls. That was heavenly.
I think she was a little suspicious of me at first. Maybe thought I was a cop. It was all sorted out to everyone's satisfaction. I like this place. I will return...
I strongly agree LL. Frankly, I think you were too easy on him.
[QUOTE=LexLuther]RM,
First of all I believe you mean hyenas. Why you would call these ladies hyenas is beyond me. They are women, not dogs and certainly not the dog-like creatures normally referred to by the term hyena.
Oh and by the way, Russian (as you can see from my spelling of it) has two "s"'s in the middle of the word. It is "Russian" and not rusian. Also the word Asian is normally capitalized.
If you can't learn to express yourself in English, I will have to ask that you be banned from the sites.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
Have any of you found yourself feeling extremely selfish and lazy and opting for a BJ at our beloved DC Amps? What have you paid for this? I almost always opt for FS because it is there but today, thanks in particular to the wonderful tounge and mouth of Sura, I would have preferred a BJ CIM or Cum In Rubber.
Today was my first time picking the flower, very nice. Long uncovered oral teasing. Many positions. Great Massage and TS. Very flirty afterward, nice little massage afterwards too. Great Attitude. Standard Fare. Diane on vacation. Did see another nice one too I have not seen before.
Later,
BT3
[QUOTE=Rusian Mong]Hey fellow mongers,
Just to pass on knowledge already attainable on this board, Rose at 14k is AMAZING. Sexy, fit, skills, and fun. What a winner. Beacause she already has some good reviews, I'm not going to go into details.
One thing though, I tried to get a line up this morning (10ish am), but no go! I'm sure there where girls there, I saw Dianne walking around when I got out of the TS. I'm just waiting for that moment when 3-5 gorgeous asian heinnas stand in front of me and I just pick the hottest! Any tips for my next visit on how to get a good line up? I asked mamsan a couple times for a line up, said I'd like to choose my girl. She just kept saying I give you best girl (ahhh Rose).
Help me get my moment to choose my girl!
Thanks,
Rusian[/QUOTE]1. if ur Korean
2. if you ask for a line up, speaking in Korean
Ahhh, I remember the good old days at Downtown, Royal, VIP...getting a line up was standard.
Normally I don't go out to New York, but I had the chance the other day and decided to go anyway. Met a technician named Tina. Gentlemen, here is a rare gem. She was young, probably early to mid 20s, with a very fresh and cute face. Attitude was very friendly and playful. Great body with the exception of the fake boobies - which is fine with me. If they exist, they're real.
Standard TS and massagi, great CBJ. during the main event, either she was a very good actress or she really does enjoy her work.
Definite recommend, and definite repeat.
[QUOTE=Big Daddy Don]Does anyone know if Green is reopening? I would really like to know what happened to Sue from there. If you have any info please let me know.
Thanks
BDD[/QUOTE]
I know I miss it. I guess when I'm in town this weekend I'll try 14K.