What time does PP open? Noon, I assume? Do any places open earlier than noon?
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What time does PP open? Noon, I assume? Do any places open earlier than noon?
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;1743500]What time does PP open? Noon, I assume? Do any places open earlier than noon?[/QUOTE]Yes, all the clubs open at noon as far as I know. The only earlier opening is FL legs & eggs every Friday at 6AM.
Not sure what time other clubs open, but I know for a fact PP opens at 11:30 in the am. You won't see any ladies until around ten after 12, but you can sit at the bar or play pinball. They close at 2am Friday and Saturday. They close at 1am every other day of the week.
Regards, WBM
[QUOTE=WBMason; 1743816]Not sure what time other clubs open, but I know for a fact PP opens at 11:30 in the am. You won't see any ladies until around ten after 12, but you can sit at the bar or play pinball. They close at 2am Friday and Saturday. They close at 1am every other day of the week.
Regards, WBM[/QUOTE]Yes, I can confirm that that post is right on the money.
[QUOTE=CadillaCock;1742496]Your report is right on the money Recon and yes I was looking for a Sunshine FS fix Sat. Night but yet another hottie back off to NY. Really sucks and Innocence was really smokin hot also but didn't even last as long as Sunshine. I don't understand why Sunshine left when she was just starting to get the customers to line up for her. She should have gave it more time.[/QUOTE]Well, only time will tell for her. Meanwhile, somebody aired my dirty laundry from this site the other day and put it on SCL. I guess they didn't realize in my report that Sunshine was a "recent favorite" as oppose to my favorite, which sounds permanent. I don't play the 'My Favorite' game at PP, where guys only follow one or two particular dancers. It's not like I'm here or SCL crying about Samantha, Isis, Tasha, etc. I'm always on the hunt for new talent, like that new Cape Verdean chick Janet. She seems shy, but I have to get more info on her later.
How frightening! Since my last post things havnt improved, infact possibly decilined. Whats worse a room full of special Olympians. Or 3 guys / 45 girls? Needless to say I wasnt on the winning end of thing tonight! Missing my real guys.
Yet another depressing night here. Seriously getting old. What worse 100 guys in a room who are at best special olympians or 3 guy per / 45 girls? Anyhow one is valuing a good full experience lately (convo / dance) missing real guys.
Just a FYI for those that want to know about such things:
I had occasion to go to the Cadillac Lounge last Friday to meet a friend for a couple of drinks, and discuss old times. Nothing unusual, except paying the exorbitant parking and admission fees.
Nonetheless, I did so, we had a few hours there, and left. Not looking for any action; just a place to meet.
On the average, he and I meet there 3-4 times a year.
We agreed to meet again last night.
BUT: again after paying the too-high parking fee, upon entering the lobby, I am met by a security guy that wants to see some I. D. I was not asked the previous week; but no biggie, so I show my driver's license. Then, he swiped it into what looks like a credit card machine, and I can see all of my data displayed on the screen, name, address, license number, etc.
WTF? I asked him what that was all about, and I told him that he should have told me that he was going to use a card reader, and what about the information, why was it being done, was it being stored, and that my privacy is important to me. His reply was it's a new policy. Knowing that I was not going to win this battle with him, I moved into the main area, seething.
I am really pissed, because I see no need to expose information that I consider to be my private business, and for which the club has no right to obtain. Checking age I understand. Getting my name and address is above what is needed.
I met my friend, who it just happens, is a cop in a MA city. He, of course, was excused from this what I term to be an intrusion into my privacy. I asked him to get some answers from the security people. He reported back that all security knew is that it is a new policy.
So, here we have another happening of private information being used for what purpose?
I am going to make some inquires, and I am going to make some noise if I determine this is something that is not legal; or for a not needed requirement of either local or RI law, and my cop friend is going to do the same.
So, be aware, if like me, you think this is going too far, stay away from the CL.
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[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma; 1746265]Just a FYI for those that want to know about such things:
BUT: again after paying the too-high parking fee, upon entering the lobby, I am met by a security guy that wants to see some I. D. I was not asked the previous week; but no biggie, so I show my driver's license. Then, he swiped it into what looks like a credit card machine, and I can see all of my data displayed on the screen, name, address, license number, etc.[/QUOTE]They do that (or did, only went there once when they first opened) at RI Dolls. The guy told me it was for the clubs and my own security, that none of the info would be used outside the club. I am thinking its for legal purposes so if something happens inside the club, they have who was there so they can question people as witnesses (I've seen fights in there and what if it got out of hand when LEO isn't at the door).
I agree that it is intrusive and thank you for letting us know. I was going to go there last night for Lisa Ann, but now I know to stay away in case CL is doing shady stuff.
[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma; 1746265]Then, he swiped it into what looks like a credit card machine, and I can see all of my data displayed on the screen, name, address, license number, etc.
WTF? I asked him what that was all about, and I told him that he should have told me that he was going to use a card reader, and what about the information, why was it being done, was it being stored, and that my privacy is important to me. His reply was it's a new policy. Knowing that I was not going to win this battle with him, I moved into the main area, seething.
I am really pissed, because I see no need to expose information that I consider to be my private business, and for which the club has no right to obtain. Checking age I understand. Getting my name and address is above what is needed.[/QUOTE]I agree, Rei. This is total bullshit. I would have been going out of my mind. If this is some new "policy", I can promise you I'll never walk through the door of CL ever again. They're going to lose a shitload of customers once this gets around.
Regards,
WBM
If they jot down your license plate number, they get similar info. It sounds kinda TV-ish, but when they get a digital photo of you, as many clubs / AMPs etc do, anyone who has access to dmv can figure out who you are. But I agree, a card reader is too much info to share on the spot.
BTW, some of the hotel key cards have your info, so if you're playing where you shouldn't, take the hotel card with you when you check out.
Visited CF the other day. Ok talent at best. There were a few spinners but not many. Went their for Sophia, saw her about a month ago and needed to no what was available. Got a dance from her, no CR. To sum it up, she acts like theirs no extras, but after my dances she tells me we should do CR. I say why? Then she said if you tip me right, you can have your fun. I'm like WTF, you tell me upfront theirs no xtras, then after I get a dance waist $40 you tell me their are. WTF is she trying to double upsell me. I've been one of the few defending CF, no more that just put me over the edge. Also went to Cheaters, Idk how everyone else feels, but when I go in there and see 3 or 4 pimps hanging out, it makes me not want to spend any money no matter how horny I am. Pauly has to realize its bad for business, I just think he gets punkd by these pimps.
[QUOTE=CCNice;1746553]Visited CF the other day. Ok talent at best. There were a few spinners but not many. Went their for Sophia, saw her about a month ago and needed to no what was available. Got a dance from her, no CR. To sum it up, she acts like theirs no extras, but after my dances she tells me we should do CR. I say why? Then she said if you tip me right, you can have your fun. I'm like WTF, you tell me upfront theirs no xtras, then after I get a dance waist $40 you tell me their are. WTF is she trying to double upsell me. I've been one of the few defending CF, no more that just put me over the edge. Also went to Cheaters, Idk how everyone else feels, but when I go in there and see 3 or 4 pimps hanging out, it makes me not want to spend any money no matter how horny I am. Pauly has to realize its bad for business, I just think he gets punkd by these pimps.[/QUOTE]Cheaters is defiantly not what it use to be, I hate the fact that pimps hang out there & the girls are worst then ever, every single one of them is always in a bad mood no matter how hard they try to hide it. I'm done with that place. Plus I seen a guy get slap by this girl on stage because he slightly felt on her boob I was like WTF the dancers name was kelly I believe anyways she is a middle age white girl with decent boobs just a little FYI for you all.
[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma;1746265]BUT: again after paying the too-high parking fee, upon entering the lobby, I am met by a security guy that wants to see some I. D. I was not asked the previous week; but no biggie, so I show my driver's license. Then, he swiped it into what looks like a credit card machine, and I can see all of my data displayed on the screen, name, address, license number, etc.[/QUOTE]The entire upper parking lot has always been free with the lower part by the entrance being valet only, for a fee, at night. Has this changed? The card reader is new one one me. My last visit was about two weeks ago and I was not asked for I'd.
I know there was a fight there not the long ago one of the bouncer / valet got hit in the face with kind of object and had to get a few sitches. Could have some to do with it. Legal not sure.
[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma; 1746265]Just a FYI for those that want to know about such things:
I had occasion to go to the Cadillac Lounge last Friday to meet a friend for a couple of drinks, and discuss old times. Nothing unusual, except paying the exorbitant parking and admission fees.
Nonetheless, I did so, we had a few hours there, and left. Not looking for any action; just a place to meet.
On the average, he and I meet there 3-4 times a year.
We agreed to meet again last night.
BUT: again after paying the too-high parking fee, upon entering the lobby, I am met by a security guy that wants to see some I. D. I was not asked the previous week; but no biggie, so I show my driver's license. Then, he swiped it into what looks like a credit card machine, and I can see all of my data displayed on the screen, name, address, license number, etc.
WTF? I asked him what that was all about, and I told him that he should have told me that he was going to use a card reader, and what about the information, why was it being done, was it being stored, and that my privacy is important to me. His reply was it's a new policy. Knowing that I was not going to win this battle with him, I moved into the main area, seething.
I am really pissed, because I see no need to expose information that I consider to be my private business, and for which the club has no right to obtain. Checking age I understand. Getting my name and address is above what is needed.
I met my friend, who it just happens, is a cop in a MA city. He, of course, was excused from this what I term to be an intrusion into my privacy. I asked him to get some answers from the security people. He reported back that all security knew is that it is a new policy.
So, here we have another happening of private information being used for what purpose?
I am going to make some inquires, and I am going to make some noise if I determine this is something that is not legal; or for a not needed requirement of either local or RI law, and my cop friend is going to do the same.
So, be aware, if like me, you think this is going too far, stay away from the CL.[/QUOTE]
Went to the PP tonight, and to whom ever was looking for SunShine, she is back. After reading about her, I decide to give her a try. I didn't want to miss out, in case she decided to head back to NY for good.
Sure she has a nice ass and body, but up stairs in the light you can see stretch marks and blemishes. Sorry to report, but she was a disappointment and a hustler. I would stay far away as possible. She will try to hustle for drinks and anything she can get. Can't stress how disappointed I was.
Most of the girls here are sooo unhappy, they can't even bring themselves to smile. Use to be my fav spot, since they always had a good number of chocolate. I would have to agree with some of the guys here. The pimps are making these girls miserable, in turn all they want to do is turn a buck, QUICK. Which in turn, they will walk up to every guy and ask can "i get a tip"?
SIGGHHHHHHH.
STAY AWAY FROM SUN SHINE. cant stress it enough.
[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma; 1746265]Just a FYI for those that want to know about such things:
Upon entering the lobby, I am met by a security guy that wants to see some I. D. He swiped it into what looks like a credit card machine, and I can see all of my data displayed on the screen, name, address, license number, etc.[/QUOTE]I'm going to write to CL and ask what's up, and informing them I'll be going elsewhere if it is happening. Let's all do the same, maybe they'll get the message.
[QUOTE=WBMason; 1746361]I agree, Rei. This is total bullshit. I would have been going out of my mind. If this is some new "policy", I can promise you I'll never walk through the door of CL ever again. They're going to lose a shitload of customers once this gets around.
Regards,
WBM[/QUOTE]X2 F that, what if that info gets in the wrong hands and used as some sort of blackmail deal, already have a tin foil hat LOL
[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma; 1746265]Just a FYI for those that want to know about such things:
I had occasion to go to the Cadillac Lounge last Friday to meet a friend for a couple of drinks, and discuss old times. Nothing unusual, except paying the exorbitant parking and a.
I am really pissed, because I see no need to expose information that I consider to be my private business, and for which the club has no right to obtain. Checking age I understand. Getting my name and address is above what is needed.
So, be aware, if like me, you think this is going too far, stay away from the CL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I would be fuming if I thought a bar / club stored my personal information without my consent. It also sounds like you were not given the opportunity to decline having your personal information hijacked. I will make a point of avoiding Cadillac unless I hear this policy has changed.
[QUOTE=Boston Guy 57;1746636]The entire upper parking lot has always been free with the lower part by the entrance being valet only, for a fee, at night. Has this changed? The card reader is new one one me. My last visit was about two weeks ago and I was not asked for I'd.[/QUOTE]I went last month and they just took a quick look at my I'd and let me through, at night they always examined it. Yea, the Shappy Auto parking lot is always free. The section along the right wall of that building and right towards / behind the club is the $5 "valet" or secure parking, they do the same thing at FL but its $3. During the day, I think its either free or $5 in that section (went one time during the day and they had a bouncer walking around in the lot so I assumed I had to pay). FL on the other hand is free in the valet section during the day. CD only has paid parking Friday and Saturday night. PP and CF don't have any pay parking as far as I know.
[QUOTE=Moonshiner;1747436]Thanks for the tip. I would be fuming if I thought a bar / club stored my personal information without my consent. It also sounds like you were not given the opportunity to decline having your personal information hijacked. I will make a point of avoiding Cadillac unless I hear this policy has changed.[/QUOTE]Okay, a weekend has come and gone.
Anybody go to the CL over the weekend? If so, are they still using the scanner?
And if they are, is there a posted sign advising you of it, or are the security people advising you beforehand?
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[QUOTE=Lexus;1746671]I know there was a fight there not the long ago one of the bouncer / valet got hit in the face with kind of object and had to get a few sitches. Could have some to do with it. Legal not sure.[/QUOTE]That sounds about right. There was a bar I used to go to when I lived out west that had a rash of assaults, women being slipped drugs in their drinks, etc and they started scanning people's I'd on entering. I don't know how long they kept the information, but I know it was used a couple times by police to find out who people were that ended up getting into a fight or what have you.
Given what happens in CL, even though I haven't been there, I'd be worried about that part. Say they catch your face on a cam inside the club engaged with some of the entertainment, then do a cross reference with the info they have on you that's on file.
Yeah, no thanks.
I really appreciate the reports about this tactic at CL! That is TOTALLY unacceptable and I hope EVERYONE will refuse to go to CL until and unless they fix that situation! Just remember, gents, WE are the ones that are paying their bills! If we stay away in droves, they will SURELY have to end that practice. EVERYONE should just say no, and vote with your feet-not your dick!
[QUOTE=Bonefish2; 1748550]That sounds about right. There was a bar I used to go to when I lived out west that had a rash of assaults, women being slipped drugs in their drinks, etc and they started scanning people's I'd on entering. I don't know how long they kept the information, but I know it was used a couple times by police to find out who people were that ended up getting into a fight or what have you.
Given what happens in CL, even though I haven't been there, I'd be worried about that part. Say they catch your face on a cam inside the club engaged with some of the entertainment, then do a cross reference with the info they have on you that's on file.
Yeah, no thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LoveLatin05; 1746875]Went to the PP tonight, and to whom ever was looking for SunShine, she is back. After reading about her, I decide to give her a try. I didn't want to miss out, in case she decided to head back to NY for good.
Sure she has a nice ass and body, but up stairs in the light you can see stretch marks and blemishes. Sorry to report, but she was a disappointment and a hustler. I would stay far away as possible. She will try to hustle for drinks and anything she can get. Can't stress how disappointed I was.
Most of the girls here are sooo unhappy, they can't even bring themselves to smile. Use to be my fav spot, since they always had a good number of chocolate. I would have to agree with some of the guys here. The pimps are making these girls miserable, in turn all they want to do is turn a buck, QUICK. Which in turn, they will walk up to every guy and ask can "I get a tip"?
SIGGHHHHHHH.
STAY AWAY FROM SUN SHINE. Can't stress it enough.[/QUOTE]Agree. I went there last week. It was the first time back in over a year. Now I remember why I stayed away. It was depressing. I used to like this place, for all it's dark, stinky, grunginess of it all. At least you could fine some fun girls and have a good time. Now, Like you say, all these girls are miserable. They want a tip just for coming up to you and saying hello. I got a weak lapdance from a young white girl who wanted to charge me for having "full contact" during the dance. I was like, WTF? Full contact is the whole point of RI strip clubs. This girl wanted 200 for the backroom for 30 minutes. The whole vibe was whacked. I won't be going back unless I hear things have dramatically improved.
4 visits to the Caddy in 2 weeks and no Mariah. Any info? Going to find a new provider!
Was in East providence late afternoon and decided to visit the PP. Foxy is back and is looking good. Also said that she has quit drinking as well. Isis was hammered, load, and obnoxious and was nearly thrown out by Paul. Surprise visit by Mandy / CL Harmony as she was there with her friend and teaching her the ropes. Had a goodtime with Mandy in the CR.
[QUOTE=RIbald;1749133]4 visits to the Caddy in 2 weeks and no Mariah. Any info? Going to find a new provider![/QUOTE]Did they scan your license when you went in? Just wondering if they are still collecting customer information.
Damn so no1 went to the lisa ann show at the CL
[QUOTE=Moonshiner;1751991]Did they scan your license when you went in? Just wondering if they are still collecting customer information.[/QUOTE]Yes they did. I have not been back in a week so can't say if they still are at it.
[QUOTE=RIbald;1752291]Yes they did. I have not been back in a week so can't say if they still are at it.[/QUOTE]Well, that's the end of me going to CL. I'm a married guy and my wife has no idea that I frequent the clubs. Letting them collect that info is creating evidence that could be used against you. Also, if you are on the clock from your job, this info could come back & bite you too.
[QUOTE=Postman;1752659]Well, that's the end of me going to CL. I'm a married guy and my wife has no idea that I frequent the clubs. Letting them collect that info is creating evidence that could be used against you. Also, if you are on the clock from your job, this info could come back & bite you too.[/QUOTE]I went to CL on Monday and was ready to turn around and leave if they asked me for I'd. They were not asking for any I'd and I did not see any equipment for scanning I'd's. Could be they were not collecting during the afternoon, don't know, but was not asked.
Not very busy at any point, just steady stream of people at best. Each bar packed, pervert row was solidly book all evening as is expected. Surprised at the low level of attendance for anyone stage wise tonight. Weekends lately have drawn a younger crowd who are at the titty bar drinking with the boys. The cat of people who I say are "Customers who came to be in a strip club", not the preferred, in my case "customer who comes cause they enjoy and want to see some strippers" Last couple of Fri / Sats have been like this. The club looks SUPER PACKED and there is tons of people, but there just drinking and no one is doing any dances. Normally they will at least pack stage but tonight no one wanted to be fun and participate. Oh well. Hope for better times in 12 hrs.
Steady crowd at best. Surprised at the low level of attendance for anyone stage wise tonight. This younger crowd has been boring me to tears. All they are as I put it are "Customers who came to be in a strip club", I NEED AND WANT the "customer who comes cause they enjoy and want to see some strippers". ITs one thing to be cheap, but they arent even fun to try to hang with. They over drink and are rude Normally they will at least pack stage but tonight no one wanted to be fun and participate. Oh well. Hope for better times in 12 hrs.
[QUOTE=Rei Haragoma; 1748281]Okay, a weekend has come and gone.
Anybody go to the CL over the weekend? If so, are they still using the scanner?
And if they are, is there a posted sign advising you of it, or are the security people advising you beforehand?[/QUOTE]What the hell do they need to scan your ID for. What database are they either building or deferring to. Thats kinda sketchy.
Steady crowd at best at CD. Surprised at the low level of attendance for anyone stage wise tonight. This younger crowd has been boring me to tears. All they are as I put it are "Customers who came to be in a strip club", I NEED AND WANT the "customer who comes cause they enjoy and want to see some strippers". ITs one thing to be cheap, but they arent even fun to try to hang with. They over drink and are rude Normally they will at least pack stage but tonight no one wanted to be fun and participate. Oh well. Hope for better times in 12 hrs.
[QUOTE=Postman;1752659]Well, that's the end of me going to CL. I'm a married guy and my wife has no idea that I frequent the clubs. Letting them collect that info is creating evidence that could be used against you. Also, if you are on the clock from your job, this info could come back & bite you too.[/QUOTE]I was there last night and they attempted to swipe my license. I said NFW and I was told that the device checks for age and authenticity. I actually stood there and Googled the product name. I verified that the device info is purged but unfortunately I didn't save the product name to share here. Next time I go I'll write it down to share.
It was a slow night for girls that fot my taste until I ran into Shelly and had a great time in the CR.
[quote=suaimmagine;1753322]i was there last night and they attempted to swipe my license. i said nfw and i was told that the device checks for age and authenticity. i actually stood there and googled the product name. i verified that the device info is purged but unfortunately i didn't save the product name to share here. next time i go i'll write it down to share.[/quote]i've done a little research myself and i don't like what i have found. the main reason for these devices are to keep **** customers out, to show authorities that the club or liquor store is using due diligence. but the devices i've seen on the internet do save information including: number of visits, banned customers, vip customers, etc. this info is downloadable & can be saved.
check out this device:
[url]http://www.idscanner.com/idscanner/idvisor%20m310%20id.htm[/url]
possible scenario:
if something happens at the club and law enforcement wants to talk to witnesses, they have a list immediately. i don't need that phone call or knock on the door. if you're married, or wish to keep your clubbing private, do not let them scan your i'd.
[quote=postman; 1753369]i've done a little research myself and i don't like what i have found. the main reason for these devices are to keep **** customers out, to show authorities that the club or liquor store is using due diligence. but the devices i've seen on the internet do save information including: number of visits, banned customers, vip customers, etc. this info is downloadable & can be saved.
check out this device:
[url]http://www.idscanner.com/idscanner/idvisor%20m310%20id.htm[/url]
possible scenario:
if something happens at the club and law enforcement wants to talk to witnesses, they have a list immediately. i don't need that phone call or knock on the door. if you're married, or wish to keep your clubbing private, do not let them scan your i'd.[/quote]okay, as a follow-up to my original post regarding all of this, my le friend, even though he is is a ma cop, knows ri le people. from what he can find out from them, there is no providence law, and no ri law mandating these things. the use of them is something the club has taken upon itself, for the reasons in this post by postman.
however.
to make for good club pr, the establishment should post a sign saying that they are in use; just as they do warning you about the metal detector.
i don't like to be blindsided by something that is invading my privacy, and is storing the info; and retained for an undetermined amount of time.
and if the club and le wants to talk to witnesses, what is wrong with using the tried-and proven closed circuit tv system, which is less intrusive?