The Woodshed

Can anyone pass me Cleo's contact.

I was seeing her before she took off for Pensacola and it looks like she changed numbers again.

Thanks.

How reliable is the site called 5 escorts?

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited or deleted to [u]remove references to Transvestites/Transsexuals/SheMales[/u]. As provided in the Forum's Posting Guideline, members may not discuss Transvestites/Transsexuals/SheMales. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. [i]Thanks![/i]

We don't judge brother, if cock is your thing good luck to you but you can't post about wanting to get your shit pushed in even though it's a fight thread.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;4210067]Turnover being key. Seems that any halfway decent BP girl / STG poster gets white knighted in a few months. Yet they still post for dates.[/QUOTE]It's been happening more often than in years past. I guess these dudes think "HO" + "ME" = "HOME". They all have boyfriends that have the same candy habit. My opinion is if she's posting then she's single as can be.

Curious as I am pretty much done with this hobby after my last terrible experience, how worried do you guys get about things like HIV? I never BBFS or even Greek in any capacity but I like BBBJs, anyone know the prevalence of shit like that? IV drug users are an at risk population and I know a lot of these providers mess around with substances. Then there's the statistic I think that's 22% of HIV cases in FL are from jax (may have misquoted that but pretty sure I saw a news segment stating that recently). Not trying to spook everyone it's just a thought I've been having, interested to hear what this community thinks about this within the hobby.

[QUOTE=Magicmike226;4314163]Curious as I am pretty much done with this hobby after my last terrible experience, how worried do you guys get about things like HIV? I never BBFS or even Greek in any capacity but I like BBBJs, anyone know the prevalence of shit like that? IV drug users are an at risk population and I know a lot of these providers mess around with substances. Then there's the statistic I think that's 22% of HIV cases in FL are from jax (may have misquoted that but pretty sure I saw a news segment stating that recently). Not trying to spook everyone it's just a thought I've been having, interested to hear what this community thinks about this within the hobby.[/QUOTE]Not worried about hiv and bjs but do very much worry about routine stis.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;4314595]Not worried about hiv and bjs but do very much worry about routine stis.[/QUOTE]Especially for those who like to dine at the why on these hookers-no judgement, of course. Studies show some throat / oral cancers are HPV related.

[QUOTE=Quebec99;4314808]Especially for those who like to dine at the why on these hookers-no judgement, of course. Studies show some throat / oral cancers are HPV related.[/QUOTE]I've never ever understood that, no DATY for me either. I just wonder where that large percentage of new HIV cases came from ya know, like which population is racking up the numbers like that. It'd seem like this hobby would be suspect.

[QUOTE=Quebec99;4314808]Especially for those who like to dine at the why on these hookers-no judgement, of course. Studies show some throat / oral cancers are HPV related.[/QUOTE]HPV is a done deal. Virtually all sexually active men had/have it. Most all of us will successfully fight off with immune system.

[QUOTE=Magicmike226;4314163]Curious as I am pretty much done with this hobby after my last terrible experience, how worried do you guys get about things like HIV? I never BBFS or even Greek in any capacity but I like BBBJs, anyone know the prevalence of shit like that? IV drug users are an at risk population and I know a lot of these providers mess around with substances. Then there's the statistic I think that's 22% of HIV cases in FL are from jax (may have misquoted that but pretty sure I saw a news segment stating that recently). Not trying to spook everyone it's just a thought I've been having, interested to hear what this community thinks about this within the hobby.[/QUOTE]HIV is most prevalant in the Miami area (for Florida), but there's certainly plenty around here. I'm old enough to remember when HIV was a death sentence. I was talking with an ER nurse recently, and she said she'd rather contract HIV than Hep, which is obviously different than it used to be.

With the pill mills being shut down and H / fentanyl becoming a cheaper and therefore more popular alternative to oxy (etc), shooters are increasingly a problem. Apparently, the high from Fentanyl is much shorter lasting, too, so the people who routinely shoot that end up shooting a LOT more, which increases needle sharing.

I manage my exposure risk by avoiding obvious shooters, or people who have symptoms that are common to them, by not picking up SWans with obvious massive signs of other candy use, and by making sure to get tested regularly.

Do I worry about it anyways? Sure.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;4315561]HPV is a done deal. Virtually all sexually active men had/have it. Most all of us will successfully fight off with immune system.[/QUOTE]I've had to visit my dermatologist to get some freeze treatments on several lesions I found downstairs. They weren't cancerous, but I certainly didn't have them before I started this lifestyle. No clue where I got it.

[QUOTE=ZoomLens2013;4317488]I've had to visit my dermatologist to get some freeze treatments on several lesions I found downstairs. They weren't cancerous, but I certainly didn't have them before I started this lifestyle. No clue where I got it.[/QUOTE]Umm, wouldn't those be genital warts?

[QUOTE=Quebec;4317760]Umm, wouldn't those be genital warts?[/QUOTE]Most likely. A symptom of hpv.

[QUOTE=Quebec;4317760]Umm, wouldn't those be genital warts?[/QUOTE]Yes. The bill from the office referred to them as lesions. I appreciated the discretion. LOL.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;4317807]Most likely. A symptom of hpv.[/QUOTE]There around 40 different types of HPV. Exposure to 16 causes throat or head / neck cancer and I believe 17 causes cervical cancer whereas 19 warts. Here is what makes it so difficult, your immune system will kill it so you won't have it when these symptoms develop, BUT its the exposure to it that gets you, plus there is no testing available to know if you have it, only if you have been exposed to it. High School students have been getting vaccinated since the mid 90's, so if your older you probably were exposed at some point via sitting on a toilet, kissing, 16 is through oral sex, pretty hard not to have had it unless you got the vaccine.

[QUOTE=BudGreen;4319092]There around 40 different types of HPV. Exposure to 16 causes throat or head / neck cancer and I believe 17 causes cervical cancer whereas 19 warts. Here is what makes it so difficult, your immune system will kill it so you won't have it when these symptoms develop, BUT its the exposure to it that gets you, plus there is no testing available to know if you have it, only if you have been exposed to it. High School students have been getting vaccinated since the mid 90's, so if your older you probably were exposed at some point via sitting on a toilet, kissing, 16 is through oral sex, pretty hard not to have had it unless you got the vaccine.[/QUOTE]Being in the "already been exposed" group, I haven't paid much attention recently, but when that vaccine came out, there were some serious questions about its efficacy. And, man, they were pushing it HARD (ads trying to guilt parents into not basically killing their kids by not giving them the vaccine, that sort of thing) and it was pretty expensive. I think a couple / few hundred bucks.

Because I had certainly already been exposed, I didn't really follow up. Given the amount of bullshit about viruses and such on the Internet (take a look at what the anti-Vaxers are putting out there) I'm not inclined to do a super-quick check right now, but it's worth keeping in mind that the pharma companies are rightfully notorious for pushing shit that's of questionable value if they can make a buck.

HIV epidemic. It's used as a case study in scientific journals. Read Nature or Science.

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;4315691]HIV is most prevalant in the Miami area (for Florida), but there's certainly plenty around here. I'm old enough to remember when HIV was a death sentence. I was talking with an ER nurse recently, and she said she'd rather contract HIV than Hep, which is obviously different than it used to be.

With the pill mills being shut down and H / fentanyl becoming a cheaper and therefore more popular alternative to oxy (etc), shooters are increasingly a problem. Apparently, the high from Fentanyl is much shorter lasting, too, so the people who routinely shoot that end up shooting a LOT more, which increases needle sharing.

I manage my exposure risk by avoiding obvious shooters, or people who have symptoms that are common to them, by not picking up SWans with obvious massive signs of other candy use, and by making sure to get tested regularly.

Do I worry about it anyways? Sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DWaltonXXX;4319726]HIV epidemic. It's used as a case study in scientific journals. Read Nature or Science.[/QUOTE]I haven't been keeping up with either of those, recently. I probably should change that.

Current stats say that Jax has about 50% of the new HIV case rate that Miami does, though.

Not that that's particularly reassuring, or that anyone should let their guard down, but it seems that there are plenty of guys that will continue to see known shooters, so the 26/100 k rate in Jax isn't likely to go down anytime soon.

Just for reference: Jax has 2x the national average, and Miami has 4x. The Ft Lauderdale area has the #2 and #3 spots in between Miami and Jax for Florida.

Ok, I just have to say that the talent I'm seeing advertised in J'ville is just not inspiring me. In fact, over the past couple of years I think it has become even worse. And if these girls look this bad in their pics, I can only imagine how they actually look in person. At least before there were opportunities to find diamonds in the ruff, but not now. Takeout from strip clubs has always been my preferred source of paid companions, but once in a blue moon I might dip my toe in the local escort market. But I haven't felt motivated to dial up one of these girls in over a year now. This is just atrocious. Worse though, when a decent one surfaces, she's taking a shit ton of volume.

Anyway, this is just a vent. As much as I'd like to diversify and maybe keep a few more bucks in my pocket, I just can't accept the hefty trade-off in quality.

[QUOTE=RickDugan;4327479]Ok, I just have to say that the talent I'm seeing advertised in J'ville is just not inspiring me. In fact, over the past couple of years I think it has become even worse. And if these girls look this bad in their pics, I can only imagine how they actually look in person. At least before there were opportunities to find diamonds in the ruff, but not now. Takeout from strip clubs has always been my preferred source of paid companions, but once in a blue moon I might dip my toe in the local escort market. But I haven't felt motivated to dial up one of these girls in over a year now. This is just atrocious. Worse though, when a decent one surfaces, she's taking a shit ton of volume.

Anyway, this is just a vent. As much as I'd like to diversify and maybe keep a few more bucks in my pocket, I just can't accept the hefty trade-off in quality.[/QUOTE]They seem to offer the best looking, but honestly I have tried a few and the YMMV and the business of it outweighs everything, so its just too fake for me borderline narcissistic IMO. The best I have had albeit it takes a lot of work, is the sugar market on SA for an hour of what it cost for an eros girl I can throw that down and get someone younger, better looking, no appearance of drug use low mileage, and more enthusiastic. Here is my damage experience Girl#1 no charge to drive 2 hours to see me 1st meet $$ overnight, Girl 2 $$$ and left just call anytime and don't worry about the $. Called her told her I had no $ she said $$ she drove an hour and stayed the night but I am not going to lie it takes work just like a GF but my experiences have been epic with those real college girls yea they need $ but honestly if your a good time and dependable for help when needed and need a good dream I have not gone wrong with them and I can't keep up with them.

Is there anything left in this hobby in this city worth getting your dick wet in?

I've had 2 months of strikeouts. Stank puss, timewasters, catfish, deadfish, uglyfish.

I've been hobbying 3 years now, and have never seen it so bad. I scroll thru stg, onebackpage, escortindex, city xguide, adultlook, adultsearch. Anything I try to link up with is just a disappointment, for whatever reason. Can't even find a decent swan.

Sorry for the pessimism, but WTF happened to this city?

Any positive recommendations are welcome and appreciated, but I'm afraid I have no reccomendations to return the favor with...

[QUOTE=Rustysh1990;4347269]Is there anything left in this hobby in this city worth getting your dick wet in?

I've had 2 months of strikeouts. Stank puss, timewasters, catfish, deadfish, uglyfish.

I've been hobbying 3 years now, and have never seen it so bad. I scroll thru stg, onebackpage, escortindex, city xguide, adultlook, adultsearch. Anything I try to link up with is just a disappointment, for whatever reason. Can't even find a decent swan.

Sorry for the pessimism, but WTF happened to this city?

Any positive recommendations are welcome and appreciated, but I'm afraid I have no reccomendations to return the favor with...[/QUOTE]With candy usage continuing to sky rocket and many of them paying the ultimate price. Both in and out of the hobby. And now other forms of candy making a comeback as well. It should come as no surprise.

Especially in this town. There's nothing to do here. And it shows more and more each day.

I don't foresee it getting better anytime soon and sadly we still probably haven't hit rock bottom in this hobby.

Best bet as others have mentioned here is the SB market.

[QUOTE=Scooter6;4348689]With candy usage continuing to sky rocket and many of them paying the ultimate price. Both in and out of the hobby. And now other forms of candy making a comeback as well. It should come as no surprise.

Especially in this town. There's nothing to do here. And it shows more and more each day.

I don't foresee it getting better anytime soon and sadly we still probably haven't hit rock bottom in this hobby.

Best bet as others have mentioned here is the SB market.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Theres nothing keeping good providers here. The strip scene is less than par. Then with all the raids its hard to maneuver for them. Jax really has changed in the last 2 decades worst in the last decade. They shut and tearing down all the good and historical stuff around town. There in the mist of shutting down the landing. Probably Jax main attraction. Unfortunetly Jax is still in a conservative Jim Crow kind of era. The schools and resources and job opportunity in the "bad" parts of town, which are like the downtown and surrounding area are designed to keep the poor poor. So theirs a huge income gap from broke to rich. Not to many middle ground players which would support the hobby. I ran into some damn fine providers who left because Jacksonville was to damn slow. So conservative they want to keep everything in the 80's or something. So we have to think about it why stay in a place where you barely pulling anything, where you can move a couple cities down or a couple states up and guarantee an steady flow. Here they're not guaranteed nothing. 90% of the providers here are unfortunately SW's. Which all charge stupid insane prices for what they are worth. So if the scum of the barrel charge a certain price, providers coming here going to charge hell of more. Some take pride in what they do, so theirs no way they going to charge the same price as a SW off the street. Again they told me this too. So with the ones with got, coming back to the poor education, they don't know about client retention. Would think in the hobby you would want loyal patrons, who wouldn't mind tipping occasionally. Yet they do the utmost possible to piss you off. For example I was with a Latina vocalist and we was in the middle of her performance, and someone walked in, so bam we had to go in the car, but she brings her friend. And she was complaining the whole time that I couldn't enjoy it. So we went back to her place to finish the act, and said I had to wait. So my dumb behind waited a good hr comms went silent. This was early in my hobbying days. Needless to say I didn't go back to her even though she begged and all that shid. Now unless I know the provider, or she seems legit I don't give them the coins till after or just walk. If they have an attitude before we meet, I don't even entertain them bc already know its going to be complaining, and rushing. Right now I'm trying to build up my UTR database so I don't have to bother with this mess. I kid you not last year was so grand I had 3 UTR which I didn't really have to use sites like STG and others. I found them Reliable, attractive, skilled. Then they moved bc the reasons I told. Shid we even hanged out occasionally and we both had a understanding of the line to not cross. After a while we show the docs that we clean, then the cap came off and that was magical. Beginning of the year had only 2 then 1 now none. Man one of them. Well I'll just leave a pic here. She wasnt even the baddest, the other one look like a 11/10 club girl, now she was fun and freaky. So yah. For the last couple months its been very disappointing. Hell the whole year so far. Try to find some UTR s that to your liking. Since like my dude, I also don't see no hope for jax in the near future its been progressively sinking.

Recently I was talking with a monger about a provider via PM, not going into the details of the conversation but the other monger screenshot our conversation to the provider, now my phone began blowing up because of this because she didn't like it. Basically what I'm saying is unfortunately now we have to really watch what we say in a PM amongst each other because dudes are ratting us to these women it seems, maybe this is another form of white knighting I don't know. Just be careful.

[QUOTE=LukeCage668;4351318]Recently I was talking with a monger about a provider via PM, not going into the details of the conversation but the other monger screenshot our conversation to the provider, now my phone began blowing up because of this because she didn't like it. Basically what I'm saying is unfortunately now we have to really watch what we say in a PM amongst each other because dudes are ratting us to these women it seems, maybe this is another form of white knighting I don't know. Just be careful.[/QUOTE]Now I'm Leary of posting. I know this douche is going to see this and run his mouth. Pussy ass ***** he is.

[QUOTE=LukeCage668;4351318]Recently I was talking with a monger about a provider via PM, not going into the details of the conversation but the other monger screenshot our conversation to the provider, now my phone began blowing up because of this because she didn't like it. Basically what I'm saying is unfortunately now we have to really watch what we say in a PM amongst each other because dudes are ratting us to these women it seems, maybe this is another form of white knighting I don't know. Just be careful.[/QUOTE]Its embarrassing enough to be in this hobby, but imagine being such a beta that you white knight for these "ladies" trying to score points. Whats she going to do? Offer you a discount hahaha.

[QUOTE=NeckAuthority;4349426]I couldn't agree more. Theres nothing keeping good providers here. The strip scene is less than par. Then with all the raids its hard to maneuver for them. Jax really has changed in the last 2 decades worst in the last decade. They shut and tearing down all the good and historical stuff around town. There in the mist of shutting down the landing. Probably Jax main attraction. Unfortunately Jax is still in a conservative Jim Crow kind of era. The schools and resources and job opportunity in the "bad" parts of town, which are like the downtown and surrounding area are designed to keep the poor poor. So theirs a huge income gap from broke to rich. Not to many middle ground players which would support the hobby. I ran into some damn fine providers who left because Jacksonville was to damn slow. So conservative they want to keep everything in the 80's or something. So we have to think about it why stay in a place where you barely pulling anything, where you can move a couple cities down or a couple states up and guarantee an steady flow. Here they're not guaranteed nothing. 90% of the providers here are unfortunately SW's. Which all charge stupid insane prices for what they are worth. So if the scum of the barrel charge a certain price, providers coming here going to charge hell of more. Some take pride in what they do, so theirs no way they going to charge the same price as a SW off the street. Again they told me this too. So with the ones with got, coming back to the poor education, they don't know about client retention. Would think in the hobby you would want loyal patrons, who wouldn't mind tipping occasionally. Yet they do the utmost possible to piss you off. For example I was with a Latina vocalist and we was in the middle of her performance, and someone walked in, so bam we had to go in the car, but she brings her friend. And she was complaining the whole time that I couldn't enjoy it. So we went back to her place to finish the act, and said I had to wait. So my dumb behind waited a good hr comms went silent. This was early in my hobbying days. Needless to say I didn't go back to her even though she begged and all that shid. Now unless I know the provider, or she seems legit I don't give them the coins till after or just walk. If they have an attitude before we meet, I don't even entertain them bc already know its going to be complaining, and rushing. Right now I'm trying to build up my UTR database so I don't have to bother with this mess. I kid you not last year was so grand I had 3 UTR which I didn't really have to use sites like STG and others. I found them Reliable, attractive, skilled. Then they moved bc the reasons I told. Shid we even hanged out occasionally and we both had a understanding of the line to not cross. After a while we show the docs that we clean, then the cap came off and that was magical. Beginning of the year had only 2 then 1 now none. Man one of them. Well I'll just leave a pic here. She wasnt even the baddest, the other one look like a 11/10 club girl, now she was fun and freaky. So yah. For the last couple months its been very disappointing. Hell the whole year so far. Try to find some UTR s that to your liking. Since like my dude, I also don't see no hope for jax in the near future its been progressively sinking.[/QUOTE]Looking at this hits how true it is so I must ask where are all of the good one going to? Whats the best place to monger at?

[QUOTE=LukeCage668;4351318]Recently I was talking with a monger about a provider via PM, not going into the details of the conversation but the other monger screenshot our conversation to the provider, now my phone began blowing up because of this because she didn't like it. Basically what I'm saying is unfortunately now we have to really watch what we say in a PM amongst each other because dudes are ratting us to these women it seems, maybe this is another form of white knighting I don't know. Just be careful.[/QUOTE]I don't know about same team. But I thought every1 on this forum was on the same page. These "providers" should not have a pull over us, they are "providers" and we should treat them as such. This should be a place that makes our hobby easier to maneuver. So I can't see why that dude ousted you. If you said something it probably was the truth. Unless you a provider disguised as a monger, then I can't fathom a reason to lie on here.

I got to post this for a good laugh. (This was in response to the Liz Blair cutie).

I was conversing with another monger and we talked about the "insular" talent pool here in Jax.

I noted that:

"I'll laugh if every time there is new ass on skip, the other girls see their call volume go down. LOL".

"it's like all the guys in jax collectively go "OH THANK GOD".

LMFAO!

[QUOTE=Scooter6;4348689]With candy usage continuing to sky rocket and many of them paying the ultimate price. Both in and out of the hobby. And now other forms of candy making a comeback as well. It should come as no surprise.

Especially in this town. There's nothing to do here. And it shows more and more each day.

I don't foresee it getting better anytime soon and sadly we still probably haven't hit rock bottom in this hobby.

Best bet as others have mentioned here is the SB market.[/QUOTE]So how are they affording the candy?

[QUOTE=TomCat4871;4367133]I got to post this for a good laugh. (This was in response to the Liz Blair cutie).

I was conversing with another monger and we talked about the "insular" talent pool here in Jax.

I noted that:

"I'll laugh if every time there is new ass on skip, the other girls see their call volume go down. LOL".

"it's like all the guys in jax collectively go "OH THANK GOD".

LMFAO![/QUOTE]If she's anything like her pics her phone is going to blow the fuck up and that usually means the rates are going to go up. I just asked on the other forum what the damage is and if it's reasonable I need to give her a visit.

[QUOTE=JZetoro19;4367385]If she's anything like her pics her phone is going to blow the fuck up and that usually means the rates are going to go up. I just asked on the other forum what the damage is and if it's reasonable I need to give her a visit.[/QUOTE]She's already at 260 for hour. Her rates have already done up since I first met her on SA.

But's she very cute, fun, clean and has a great spinner body.

[QUOTE=Scooter6;4367907]She's already at 260 for hour. Her rates have already done up since I first met her on SA.

But's she very cute, fun, clean and has a great spinner body.[/QUOTE]Woah! I might hold off for a bit. She does seem tempting though.

[QUOTE=JZetoro19;4368949]Woah! I might hold off for a bit. She does seem tempting though.[/QUOTE]She's worth it. At least $$ to $$. 2 - not to say she won't negotiate but she has a good idea that she's a rare commodity. Especially here and now.

[QUOTE=Scooter6;4369169]She's worth it. At least $$ to $$. 2 - not to say she won't negotiate but she has a good idea that she's a rare commodity. Especially here and now.[/QUOTE]I got her down to $150. I'll probably give it a go this weekend if it stands.

[QUOTE=JZetoro19;4369376]I got her down to $150. I'll probably give it a go this weekend if it stands.[/QUOTE]That's about right and what my damage was. Hopefully I'm grandfathered in haha.

She is very fun though.

[QUOTE=JZetoro19;4369376]I got her down to $150. I'll probably give it a go this weekend if it stands.[/QUOTE]150 for the hour? She quoted me 160 for a half a week ago or so. Then went comms dark when I asked if she did qv at all. I was still willing to check her out but 160 a half is a lot for first time meet even with good reviews bc as always YMMV.

Is this who we're now paying 80 to now? This is Addison's friend. Texted her today for appt and she quoted me 80. I don't understand how anyone who looks like that could even have the audaciousness to request 80! I guess 80 is the new 60 for any and everyone!

[URL]http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/double-trouble-one-blonde-one/344428775236[/URL]

[QUOTE=Quebec99;4371553]Is this who we're now paying 80 to now? This is Addison's friend. Texted her today for appt and she quoted me 80. I don't understand how anyone who looks like that could even have the audaciousness to request 80! I guess 80 is the new 60 for any and everyone!

[URL]http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/double-trouble-one-blonde-one/344428775236[/URL][/QUOTE]Last week, I seen both Addison & Lala together and it was quite a disappointing visit. Addison had really packed on the weight since I seen her previously which had been about a year ago and still as "eccentric" as ever with the attention span of a 10 year old with a severe case of ADHD. Lala was not attractive at all and was not engaged in the session. She had to be told what to do repeatedly or she would just stand there or lay there. I gave it a try, but never again.

Spent Saturday morning contacting providers. Contacted well over a dozen of them from Jacksonville to Deland (including Daytona). I got, perhaps, 7 responses. All of them with one exception (Addison in Jacksonville) quoted $150 for a HH. This group includes Liza Blair the Texas Rose, Deland Barbie, and the skinny woman located in Satsuma who told me she had gotten her period but had a friend that could help out. The friend was quite attractive, but wanted $160 for the HH. Looks like I won't be visiting any of them anytime soon.

Shaggy.