Craigslist Advertiser Reviews

Jenn is a great girl but very hard to get hold of. I've seen her twice and had to call and call to get in both times. She doesn't return calls from what I could tell but if you can reach her she's worth the time. I would make her a more usual stop if she was easier to reach. Oh, the second time I got her was actually on Yahoo IM. You might want to try that.

[QUOTE=Master Diver]Last week she runs an ad special. All doors open, $150, with a pic of a nice ass. So I call and call and call. Then find her website and email. Nothing. Other reports ranked her pretty high, but can't get an appointment.[/QUOTE]

I saw George and Jane on their last visit to Tampa for a 4 handed bodyrub. Nice location and atmosphere, very friendly couple. For those of you who are adventurous and like a little something out of the ordinary, you might want to check them out. They'll be back in town this coming week.

Tony

[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/ers/839017226.html[/url]

Just moved to New Port Richey, any suggestions on any black girls that service this area. I did see the girl "Honey" from cl last week while in tampa. Looks-9 service-9.

[QUOTE=Stpeteguy]I do think the blond is Tampa Tori and if it is you don't want anything to do with her. She is an upsell, rushed half-a$$ed service provider. And the BS about her going to school for a "Normal" job...I don't buy it. I don't even think she's been gone. Tori is always using fake pictures and names. Her TER reviews were taken down. Not sure why they took her off but I do know that every time she got a bad review all of a sudden it was followed by a perfect review. She used to work out of an AromaTherapy place near the stadium.[/QUOTE]It's definitely Tampa Tori. Go check out her web site - [url]http://tampatori.com[/url] Known aliases:
- Amanda Luv/Amanda Swallows
- Kristy
- Bella
- Casey Swallows

I've seen her now start to post on CL and Backpage as some cuban hottie. The age old maxim says "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. " The Tampa scene corrollary to that is "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is Tampa Tori. " I made the mistake once of believing a guy who told me Kristy was a different person. Went to the incall location, which was a crummy little shop in a strip mall on MLK near Blvd. ST Pete Guy is dead right that she should be avoided. She'll tell you the donation is all inclusive, and then once she's hidden it she'll clarify that all inclusive is only for handiwork.

What do these two go for individually? I checked there sites, both look great; I'm lookin for the better deal. I checked previous few pages of posts but couldn't find an answer.

Hello, does anyone know if the roccos agency got busted? When I call now some dude picks up, who sounds like he's selling potatoes. I. E. You want her blonde, black, redhead, latin? Sounded like a LEO to me. Not sure though

Any info?

Thanks

Anybody know anything about this girl?

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hott_busty_blond_29/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1035515[/url]

Looks pretty good.

Good post, but I respectfully disagree on your point about hobbyist assumptions. Unfortunately hobbyists are at an extreme disadvantage because we are usually forced to make assumptions based on the advertisements we see. Most girls won't answer questions because they don't want to incriminate themselves.

It sure would be nice if we could ask if a girl was full service for the full hour, if DATY was available and if the girls would get it on with each other. But we can't really do that.

Based on the photos, B&M are projecting an image which would make it reasonable to assume there would be girl on girl action since you can't come out and ask that.

I guess as an extreme example, most ads have something like 'due to legal reaasons, money spent is for companionship only and sex is not contracted for, blah blah blah blah". However if a girl took $$ from me and then just sat in a chair across the room for then next hour before leaving, I would feel justified in flagging all of her ads in the future. I know that is an extreme example.

[QUOTE=Chase Star]I tried Brianna out myself a few weeks back and my assessment for her is pretty much the same as Olds Man.

I also figured ahead of time that it was probably going to be "until you get off" rather than a full hour and that was confirmed when I got there. Yeah, I could or should of tried to confirm when I first called, but I was really okay with just a half hour quickie and would have seen a full hour as just an incredibly lucky bonus. After all, I was paying $.3 (I only went for Brianna and did not do the double) and that is not that different from what many CL girls are charging for half hour sessions. When you pay just $$ for 2 girls, which is the typical hourly rate on CL for just 1, did you really expect to get both of them for a full hour? Get real.

BTW, I saw her friend Mystique while I was there and she didn't appeal to me at all. Skinny and trashy looking in a coke wh0re sort of way. The report of saggy tits does not surprise me at all. OTOH, Brianna was also thin and petite, but had curves, a firm body and nice supple tits. Yes, she had tats too, but that gave her a trashy look in a much better way than for the worn out looking Mystique. In truth, they're probably both into their share of at least pot smoking, since I recall that subject being mentioned at some point.

The small apartment was not the most tidy and was largely devoid of furniture, but, like OM said, without much in it, how messy could it be? I've seen much worse and don't really focus that much on the decor anyway when I'm banging a hooker.

Service quality was not bad. Good BBBJ, a little DATY and multiple FS positions (always covered for me). Perhaps a little rushed, particularly once I popped, but overall I left fairly satisfied. Indications were a better deal could be arranged for regular repeat business. I might go back but I was not so impressed that I'd make it a regular thing.

I'm curious why Malabar feels justified in flagging their ads. Obviously, YMMV applies here. So you weren't so satisfied that you felt you got your money's worth let alone that you'd go back. Then simply post a review (like Aesder did) to let others know your OPINION, and let THEM decide for THEMSELVES whether they want to see them.

Exactly how did they rip you off?
Did they take your money without providing any service at all (cash and dash)?
Were their pictures inaccurate (bait and switch)?
Did their ad say anywhere that those rates were for a full hour?
Did their ad say multiple cups any where?
Did their ad promise any lesbian show or did it simply say 2 girls (for undetermined services)?
Did their ads contain any other outright falsehoods or did they fail to provide any services specifically promised in their ad?
Was the ad even deliberately misleading in any way? In other words, did it somehow imply that you were assured of getting more than you did or did you just assume that you would?

Unless you can answer "yes" to any of these questions, I don't see how you can justify flagging their ad. Simply, being unhappy with the service is not enough. I see loads of ads for fat pigs asking ridiculously high rates and I know without even seeing them that I wouldn't be happy with them, but do I flag their ads? No, because they're operating within their rights.

Frankly, unless I specifically see an hour listed in an ad, I automatically assume that it ISN'T for an hour but only until you come, particularly if the girl involved is better looking than the average CL girl and her rates are substantially less than the average. At the very least, you should have clarified that if you were counting on a full hour. Heck, even when an ad specifically SAYS an hour, many providers feel entitled to interpret that as "or until you come" and multiple cups should really always be confirmed if that is what you expect. If you want to flag somebody, maybe you should start with them.

Your problem was that you ASSUMED too much. You paid for 2 girls and that is what you got. All that guarantee is that you'll get 2 girls and that they'll do something for you. It does NOT guarantee that they'll do anything with each other and it does not guarantee that you'll get to bust a nut with both of them. I agree you should have at least been allowed to diddle both of them a little before you got to fill your one cup, but you got at least some form of sexual performance from both of them, including FS from the better looking of the 2, so I don't see how you have much ground for major complaint.[/QUOTE]

When I saw Taylor it was $$ but I think there are better ways to spend your money but YMMV.

[QUOTE=Abcd1]What do these two go for individually? I checked there sites, both look great; I'm lookin for the better deal. I checked previous few pages of posts but couldn't find an answer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baquerito]Hello, does anyone know if the roccos agency got busted? When I call now some dude picks up, who sounds like he's selling potatoes. I. E. You want her blonde, black, redhead, latin? Sounded like a LEO to me. Not sure though

Any info?

Thanks[/QUOTE][url]http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/apr/19/pa-4-women-arrested-on-prostitution-charges/[/url]

This was back in April. I don't know if anyone other than the girl got popped in this one or not, but one of these was a Rocco's girl. Actually one of these girls has popped back up on Eros from time to time. Jolyn Dawn Steier goes by the name Isabella Farachi. I know because I saw her through Rocco's back before she got busted. Then when I saw this story, I became a little wary of Rocco's and Pasco. There was another report I saw on the web in August of Pasco Sheriff's Office sending paid informants to have a session with girls, then turning around and testifying against them.

[QUOTE=Abcd1]What do these two go for individually? I checked there sites, both look great; I'm lookin for the better deal. I checked previous few pages of posts but couldn't find an answer.[/QUOTE]Tpa48, When did you last see Taylor? Her husband now does the bookings for both of them and, the last time I called him about Kimmie (because I've found it impossible to get through to her lately on her private line), the price he quoted me was $250!!! I've actually been with both and of the 2, IMHO, Kimmie is the far better provider. Taylor is much more reserved, everything is covered and there is absolutely no DFK or DATY (ie definitely NOT GFE). Not worth even $200 in my book (ie my mileage was exactly the same as yours). Kimmie was MUCH better but if her price is now RAISED to $250, you'd have to be a little crazy to pay that too with so many other good providers actually LOWERING their rates these days.
[QUOTE=Boon666]Good post, but I respectfully disagree on your point about hobbyist assumptions. Unfortunately hobbyists are at an extreme disadvantage because we are usually forced to make assumptions based on the advertisements we see. Most girls won't answer questions because they don't want to incriminate themselves.

It sure would be nice if we could ask if a girl was full service for the full hour, if DATY was available and if the girls would get it on with each other. But we can't really do that.

Based on the photos, B&M are projecting an image which would make it reasonable to assume there would be girl on girl action since you can't come out and ask that...[/QUOTE]I agree completely that we are at a major disadvantage because the girls can't be specific (even if they wanted to) and we can't really ask. But I disagree that it would be reasonable to assume that B&M's 2 girl price included girl on girl action [u]based on that price[/u], which wasn't much more than what many girls charge for themselves alone.

I guess my real point were the old axioms "If the price seems too good to be true, it probably isn't" and "Caveat Emptor". Even if the price were more in line with what you might expect for a true no holds barred 2 girl experience, one might more reasonably make that assumption and would be more justified in feeling ripped off if they didn't, but even plenty of such higher priced providers fail to deliver on such assumptions. So my 2nd axiom would be: "Absent compelling evidence to the contrary (such as reliable reviews), one is best adviced to err on the conservative side and ASSUME as little as possible in this hobby."

Anyway, there are some specifics that some providers include in their ads. For example, if it says an hour you can more safely assume it means an hour and feel cheated if it turns out not to (and if it doesn't specify a time at all you should wonder). Some ads do specify specific acts (eg "bare headache relief" or even "visit to the greek isles") so those would also be reasonable though still not always safe assumptions. If it says GFE, that means DFK, BBBJ and no rush to most of us and is fairly reasonable grounds for us to expect those elements, however MANY providers seem not to understand the real meaning of that term and falsely claim it for themselves (or maybe they're confusing it with an XGFE or "Ex-GirlFriend Experience" which means take all your money and leave you with blueballs). And, finally, any photos [u]should[/u] be actual recent photos of the girl you'll meet (again reasonable though not always true assumption). Naturally, we have to make SOME assumptions. I never meant to suggest otherwise. What I said was that Aesdr "assumed TOO MUCH".

(BTW, there was no need to quote my entire lengthy post when only the relevant parts were necessary)

[QUOTE=Aesder]I felt I was ripped off maybe I expected to "be" with 2 girls when they asked had I ever "been" with 2 girls. If you were asked have you ever "been" with a man would you think the person meant banging a chick while the man watched or played with himself? I think not ...

I didn't flag anybody either just posted my account of my experience.[/QUOTE]Maybe, I'm having trouble understanding your complaint. I can understand why you might have made that assumption but I still don't see it as reasonable. They asked if you had ever "been with 2 girls", not whether you had ever been with 2 girls who were [u]"with each other"[/u]. Wouldn't you count what you experienced, as limited as it was, as "being with 2 girls"? After all you were on the bed with 2 naked girls at the same time having a sexual experience with both of them.

And I don't think your analogy is exactly the same either. The real parallel would be if you asked her if she had ever been with 2 men, in which case she probably would NOT have assumed that the 2 men would be doing each other. The real parallel to YOUR scenario would be more like if you asked her if she had ever been with a MF couple, in which case you'd be correct that she'd assume that the couple would be doing each other as well as her. The key point is that who is the asker and who is subject of the question and what are their respective genders make a big difference. As it was, the question they asked sounds more like exactly and simply what it was: "have you (the subject of the question) ever been serviced by 2 women at once".

BTW, I don't think anyone was arguing that their place was neat, only that they've seen worse and whether that issue is all that important to them. Similarly, I don't think anyone was saying the service was all that great. I too have had better for less, but such deals are not always available or easy to find. I'm sure it made a really big difference that I paid about half as much as you and only went with the better looking of the two and even then left no better than ambivalent. If I had gone for the 2-fer, I probably would have felt like you did too, though I'd also probably only have characterized it as a really big disappointment rather than an actual rip-off.

As to the last part of your post, I stand corrected and apologize. That reference was actually meant for the person who responded to your post with a remark about flagging all their ads, which I confused for you. You actually handled the situation 110% correctly. You posted your experiences as accurately and as much detail as you could, along with your own conclusions and left it for everyone else to draw their own conclusions from that. And we ALL appreciate your posting what you have. Please keep it up.

[QUOTE=G Money Cool][url]http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/apr/19/pa-4-women-arrested-on-prostitution-charges/[/url]

This was back in April. I don't know if anyone other than the girl got popped in this one or not, but one of these was a Rocco's girl. Actually one of these girls has popped back up on Eros from time to time. Jolyn Dawn Steier goes by the name Isabella Farachi. I know because I saw her through Rocco's back before she got busted. Then when I saw this story, I became a little wary of Rocco's and Pasco. There was another report I saw on the web in August of Pasco Sheriff's Office sending paid informants to have a session with girls, then turning around and testifying against them.[/QUOTE]

I have had providers tell me that they will not work in Pasco because of the risk of them having sessions with paid informants and LEO and then getting busted right afterwards. I took the bit about actual officers having sex with a provider then busting her with a grain of salt. I believe the paid informant information however.

[QUOTE=MongerJohn]I have had providers tell me that they will not work in Pasco because of the risk of them having sessions with paid informants and LEO and then getting busted right afterwards. I took the bit about actual officers having sex with a provider then busting her with a grain of salt. I believe the paid informant information however.[/QUOTE]One of the four is a regular for me and she told me her story -- busted for FS with informant who also asked for a backrub so they could charge her with a felony (unlicensed health care, massage) as well as a misdemeanor (prostitution). The felony was later dropped and she plead on the misdemeanor. Minor fine but big lawyer fees because of the felony charge. Just makes her have to work that much harder.

CS - I probably saw her about 2-3 months ago when she and Taylor where first being talked about. She was not the best experience I have had. Actually thought about walking away when I got there but decided to stay and see how it went. Should have left.

[QUOTE=Chase Star]Tpa48, When did you last see Taylor? Her husband now does the bookings for both of them and, the last time I called him about Kimmie (because I've found it impossible to get through to her lately on her private line), the price he quoted me was $250!!! I've actually been with both and of the 2, IMHO, Kimmie is the far better provider. Taylor is much more reserved, everything is covered and there is absolutely no DFK or DATY (ie definitely NOT GFE). Not worth even $200 in my book (ie my mileage was exactly the same as yours). Kimmie was MUCH better but if her price is now RAISED to $250, you'd have to be a little crazy to pay that too with so many other good providers actually LOWERING their rates these days.
I agree completely that we are at a major disadvantage because the girls can't be specific (even if they wanted to) and we can't really ask. But I disagree that it would be reasonable to assume that B&M's 2 girl price included girl on girl action [u]based on that price[/u], which wasn't much more than what many girls charge for themselves alone.

I guess my real point were the old axioms "If the price seems too good to be true, it probably isn't" and "Caveat Emptor". Even if the price were more in line with what you might expect for a true no holds barred 2 girl experience, one might more reasonably make that assumption and would be more justified in feeling ripped off if they didn't, but even plenty of such higher priced providers fail to deliver on such assumptions. So my 2nd axiom would be: "Absent compelling evidence to the contrary (such as reliable reviews), one is best adviced to err on the conservative side and ASSUME as little as possible in this hobby."

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[QUOTE=Thudpucker]One of the four is a regular for me and she told me her story -- busted for FS with informant who also asked for a backrub so they could charge her with a felony (unlicensed health care, massage) as well as a misdemeanor (prostitution). The felony was later dropped and she plead on the misdemeanor. Minor fine but big lawyer fees because of the felony charge. Just makes her have to work that much harder.[/QUOTE]Unbelievable that they can hit you with a felony charge for a backrub. I guess the local LEOs probably think it's as clever as putting Capone away on tax evasion. I guess the moral of the story - less rub, more tug.