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[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]At the risk of bragging, according to some....
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
I thought I'd had a good time out in San Diego,
[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=619956&postcount=200[/url]
Then I drop by the Tucson forum to find this.
I've got to make my way down to Tucson sometime!
Was at Turbulence around 9 on Wed this week and what a snooze. Only 4 dancers on 2 song rotation, and they were being pulled out of the VIP room to dance. Don't know how they expect their dancers to spend any quality time with the customers.
In my opinion, Nikita was the only dancer worth spending the time with, a tall black hair beauty with gorgeous top side and perfect bottom. But she was in high demand with everyone there and difficult to get her alone and for an extended time due to the calls to stage.
In all, a big yawn. Perhaps it is more exciting on weekends? Later at night? Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks to SexHobbyist for the report. WOW
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]At the risk of bragging, according to some....
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
You just made my case. I can now gather my brief case & various documents and head home. Would love to enjoy a 'straight-up' Tanqueray martini this evening.
Still respect you and always will ... just don't get what you are doing.
Maybe an additional hobby? Golf?, Trap & Skeet?
Take care
DN
I've been rereading a number of posts, and thinking about this for a while. I am, frankly, worried.
Some of the more-explicit and better-written reports here would certainly make fine reading on sites like Literotica as pure fiction. My concern with some of these reports in this forum is three-fold: 1) They call undue sensational attention to the forum; 2) They give newbies completely unrealistic expectations; 3) They frequently give the clear implication of uncovered action which is exceedingly dangerous from a health perspective.
I doesn't matter if the reports are true or not. When respected members post explicit descriptions of wild orgies with no mention of safe sex, and further, describe activities in which it is very likely that no protection was used, I think it is asking for trouble on several fronts.
I have practised many of these activities myself, but it has been with selective partners, completely sober, and using protection such as condoms, dental dams, and latex or vinyl gloves.
In my opinion, some posts are displaying an "irrational exuberance," to coin a phrase.
I expect I've just made more critics than friends. I wish everyone exuberant sex and a long life.
Play safe.
D
[QUOTE=Daka1]My concern with some of these reports in this forum is three-fold: 1) They call undue sensational attention to the forum; 2) They give newbies completely unrealistic expectations; 3) They frequently give the clear implication of uncovered action which is exceedingly dangerous from a health perspective.
I doesn't matter if the reports are true or not. When respected members post explicit descriptions of wild orgies with no mention of safe sex, and further, describe activities in which it is very likely that no protection was used, I think it is asking for trouble on several fronts.
D[/QUOTE]
My affection for condoms and playing safe is well known. I've written about it extensively. For you newbies, here's the link to "Sexhobbyist's condom etiquette in strip clubs": [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4191&page=51&pp=15[/url]
I don't need a lecture about safety. The fact that I don't mention every single condom dressing/undressing in my reports is not reflective of my practice. During the orgy previously reported, I did not mention the half-dozen empty condom packages left behind on my couch because it's assumed that Sexhobbyist plays safe (for those who have actually READ his writings). The dancers would not participate without proper protection, especially with a first encounter. Don't assume the dancers are stupid or that they have a death wish. The dancers know what to do and they are prepared if you're not. The little hottie that was working her way around the orgie crowd put condoms on everyone. I saw her do it and you could see that all instruments were covered when she was performing her magic.
To Dick North and others who don't get what I'm doing...
I am promoting the hobby. I am furthering the hobby by reporting what is possible for any serious hobbyist just the same as any other enthusiast would do about his pastime (autos and sports come to mind). I am reporting on the potential for anyone who seeks to play. In other words, "here's the target, now go out there and aim for it because you, too, can hit it."
But it's all fiction. The witnesses who see me in action don't actually see anything—they witness what doesn't happen. The intelligence I pass on is bogus. The names I give to trusted senior members are fictitious and they use that fictitious information to enjoy their own fictitious encounters. The events that transpire and are described in my reports are about one-tenth of what I [don't] experience and [don't] report. So, you newbies, don't read any of my reports with the idea that this can actually happen to you. It can't. Except in your dreams. According to Daka1, it's unrealistic for you to expect anything good to come to you from my reports. So don't read them. It'll make you go blind.
Finally, I've been mongering for nearly two decades without any health incident so, Daka1, don't ever accuse me, by implication or otherwise, of not using protection and don't insult the women I play with by implying they aren't safe either.
Sexhobbyist
No, not a jump shot or dunk, just my opinion:
First, Daka1's concerns are warranted to an extent.
Second, SexHobbyist's explanation is valid.
Gentlemen (new, old, senior, lurker):
Just because the act of putting on a cover isn't specifically mentioned does not mean it didn't take place.
We know CBJ is covered and BBBJ isn't. When it listed simply as BJ, let us agree to understand that means covered unless specified otherwise.
Same goes with FS...personally, I like my oral without a cover and my FS with one.
If I know and trust a girlfriend or provider, it is my preference to have the appetizer unprotected and the main course protected.
If I neglect to mention busting out the Magnum between courses, so be it.
It does not mean I wasn't safe.
Trust me, when the service is sans protection it will be specified...otherwise assume precautions were taken.
Besides, if it was bare back, the poster is likely lying or exaggerating.
Because we all know everything related here is purely fiction.
To my elder, SH, you have a vivid imagination. For a bunch of made up action, I sure it was incredible. Not nearly so exciting for me today, but still a first. I had my very favorite fs dancer today at a local club. This was the very first time a girl asked me to cum in her mouth. Are you kidding me? Yes, she makes a bee line for me, takes me VIP, and tells me to let me know when I am close b/c she wants it in her mouth. I have to say, I would totally date this chick. Cute, sexy, and just fun. She is, and remains, my favorite dancer in the city. And, she doesn't even charge me full price.
Even SMs will not get name out of me as I don't want to increase her business so much that I can't see her whenever I want and then she raises her prices. Selfish, yes. Too bad. I am smitten and she will probably take all my money soon. Then move on to the next poor sap but I am really enjoying the ride down. See? I can make shit up, too, I am just not nearly as imaginative as our own SH is.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]To Dick North and others who don't get what I'm doing...
I am promoting the hobby. I am furthering the hobby by reporting what is possible for any serious hobbyist just the same as any other enthusiast would do about his pastime (autos and sports come to mind). I am reporting on the potential for anyone who seeks to play. In other words, "here's the target, now go out there and aim for it because you, too, can hit it."
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]SH,
I appreciate the entertaining literature, so thanks for the good stories
I grew up in Tucson and am now in Phx. Seems that the clubs in Tucson are better, but the AMPs and escorts are better in Phx.
A theme I notice in your stories that would seem to explain your good fortune are, having a big unit, and investing some green. Which really isn't too far from real life if you're hitting the college clubs and going for non-pros. I suspect those of us in the average category may have difficulty in interesting the girls who just want a big dick, I'd be curious if your buddies have found this to be the case as well?
Thx again for taking the time you do in sharing your info on the hobby.
I know I have not been here long enough to have earned the respect of the board yet. Being a hubby of a dancer most of the other ladies working at the club feel free to talk around me so I figured I would pass on some words of wisdom.
I was at the club yesterday. Most of the dancers were having the same day and not liking it! They refer to it as the petting zoo. Everywhere I looked even the stage the guys were grabbing all over the dancers. Look guys if you want to have a good time at the club DON'T PISS OFF THE DANCERS! I didn't even get to take my sexy wife into VIP for a few songs. She was so wore out from the disrespectful day she had had, all she wanted to do was go home. Don't get me wrong I like spending time with Amie wherever we are but I really like those times we spend in the VIP.
[QUOTE=Feaster69]I was at the club yesterday. Most of the dancers were having the same day and not liking it! They refer to it as the petting zoo. Everywhere I looked even the stage the guys were grabbing all over the dancers. Look guys if you want to have a good time at the club DON'T PISS OFF THE DANCERS! I didn't even get to take my sexy wife into VIP for a few songs. She was so wore out from the disrespectful day she had had, all she wanted to do was go home. Don't get me wrong I like spending time with Amie wherever we are but I really like those times we spend in the VIP.[/QUOTE]Let me add to Feaster's great advice. I was also there on Saturday and witnessed behavior which will get you nowhere with the dancers. One of the guys actually bit a dancer on the leg when tipping her on stage! That's right, bit her. Guys, this is not going to win you any points with the ladies and they sure as hell don't think it's sexy.
Just my 2 cents...
K4me
Just wanted to say thanks for your incredible patience with me on Friday. I really don't know why I let her control me like that. Looking back I can't believe I waited like I did instead of just having a great time with you and Aimee. It won't happen again I promise you that!
I'll keep an eye out for you next time I'm in!
K4me
[QUOTE=Daka1]I've been rereading a number of posts, and thinking about this for a while. I am, frankly, worried.
Some of the more-explicit and better-written reports here would certainly make fine reading on sites like Literotica as pure fiction. My concern with some of these reports in this forum is three-fold: 1) They call undue sensational attention to the forum; 2) They give newbies completely unrealistic expectations; 3) They frequently give the clear implication of uncovered action which is exceedingly dangerous from a health perspective.
I doesn't matter if the reports are true or not. When respected members post explicit descriptions of wild orgies with no mention of safe sex, and further, describe activities in which it is very likely that no protection was used, I think it is asking for trouble on several fronts.
I have practised many of these activities myself, but it has been with selective partners, completely sober, and using protection such as condoms, dental dams, and latex or vinyl gloves.
In my opinion, some posts are displaying an "irrational exuberance," to coin a phrase.
I expect I've just made more critics than friends. I wish everyone exuberant sex and a long life.
Play safe.
D[/QUOTE]
Well said my friend!
Just got back in town and will have more to say tomorrow.
Take care
DN
I'd like to clarify and expand on some of my earlier remarks.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]My affection for condoms and playing safe is well known. I've written about it extensively. [/QUOTE] agree.
I can recall many instances where you have mentioned condom use, and encouraged people to "play safe. " You have also criticized some "young, dumb, full of cum" dancers for not being prepared to play safely. It was not my intent to imply the contrary.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]I don't need a lecture about safety. [/QUOTE]I would not presume to lecture you about safety.
I do, however, wish to address remarks on safety to the newbies, the naive, and the clueless.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]. [D]on't ever accuse me, by implication or otherwise, of not using protection [/QUOTE]In my comment about "no mention of safe sex, " I meant exactly that, not that I thought you and others didn't use condoms. **I apologize for not being clearer. ** Further, in my mention of "activities in which it is very likely that no protection was used, " I meant to refer to possible unprotected DATY by people in the room. My concept of "safe sex" goes way beyond condom use and includes covered DATY.
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Everyone will write their reports in their own style. I hope that people will be respectful and discreet, and perhaps not too explicit, but that is my own feeling. Because some folks here may be relatively inexperienced and uneducated (IMHO), I personally, will encourage a broad spectrum of "safe sex" activities, and try to avoid casual mention of perceived risky practices in a manner that may, in the minds of some, imply approval.
I have read scary reports, possibly exagerated, of bareback sex of all kinds by people who seem to be taking their own and others' lives in their hands. Having known people who've died of AIDS and others who have been incapacitated by Hepatitis, I don't wish to stand by silently when I might be able to encourage people to modify their risky behaviors.
I know that many men love BBBJ, CIM, and COF, etc. , including with strangers. These activities are much more dangerous to the women than to the men. I would submit that respect for fellow human beings would dictate greater care in this type of risky sex with strangers.
D
Well, as far as my last report goes, when I got my BBBJCIM, I asked her to swallow a hefty bag first. She is a very talented girl, so, it was very safe. :) You just have to watch out for the twist-ties. They can hurt.
I am glad to see that sanity is returning to this thread. I have an insight to the world SH writes. As he implied, he writes only of that which is really new for him, and that leaves little to explore.
SH is the undisputed king of the club in both CS and TCWNN. They are his creation, and he is walking a fine line between too much and too little information. Kirsty and I were comparing notes and love the parts we play as "princes" in his kingdom.
I have the same problem in Nogi. That is why I have yet to party with SH in Nogi. He is not used to playing the wingman. <8-) Anyway, this is a public service announcement for those who want to party with LoveLOS.
[post=622321]Time is running out.[/post]
Be well all.
LoveLOS