Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;6242259]I met up with this chick after feeling it out for at least a week.

Then I picked her up and she turned out to be a fat slob with either a big belly or a pregnant belly.

After I told her I wasnt interested and to get out, she refused to leave. Then here came the sob story about her supposedly getting her ass beat if she didn't come back with something.

I told her that it wasnt my business and to please get out of my car. She kept asking to be compensated and I told her that nobody is going to compensate me for driving across town and then she turned out to be fat. She finally got out of my car peacefully.

Then about 30 minutes later, the text threats came in. Trying to say she had all of this info about me and telling me and threatening in childish ways to me to try to get my to send her money.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/702-846-2570[/URL][/QUOTE]I wish you could have snapped some pics cause goddamn that girl in the ad is smokin hot. Was it her just fatter or a different girl altogether? How fat are we talking here?

Thanks for the heads up!

[QUOTE=Gs702;6242326]I wish you could have snapped some pics cause goddamn that girl in the ad is smokin hot. Was it her just fatter or a different girl altogether? How fat are we talking here?

Thanks for the heads up![/QUOTE]I could tell it was the same girl, but extremely dumpy looking, with a pot belly. I'm just not into that look.

So those pics are pretty old I guess. She was at least 30 lbs heavier than the pics.

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;6242374]I could tell it was the same girl, but extremely dumpy looking, with a pot belly. I'm just not into that look.

So those pics are pretty old I guess. She was at least 30 lbs heavier than the pics.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification and warning. Unfortunately that seems to be the norm these days. 30+lbs heavier and several years of hard partying on their body and face. I'm sure it would have just gotten worse had you started peeling those clothes off.

[QUOTE=Gs702;6242382]Thanks for the clarification and warning. Unfortunately that seems to be the norm these days. 30+lbs heavier and several years of hard partying on their body and face. I'm sure it would have just gotten worse had you started peeling those clothes off.[/QUOTE]With the desperate way she was trying to extort me for money, I doubt it would have been worthwhile service or service at all.

This is a PSA: Can you guys seriously please stop paying "deposits" for these WGs, Only agency hoes require deposits and even then a lot of them don't as they come with 'security'.

In all my years hobbying this shit is getting out of hand, All these scammers asking for Cashapp / Zelle deposits just to come-up with quick cash and rip you off.

It has been the new trend since COVID began, I even has a long term provider I was seeing for years pull a fast one on me, Shits getting ridiculous.

What's worst is that the more you guys continue to entertain them and do it. The more they'll keep doing it.

[QUOTE=IceCreamLoad;6243207]This is a PSA: Can you guys seriously please stop paying "deposits" for these WGs, Only agency hoes require deposits and even then a lot of them don't as they come with 'security'.

In all my years hobbying this shit is getting out of hand, All these scammers asking for Cashapp / Zelle deposits just to come-up with quick cash and rip you off.

It has been the new trend since COVID began, I even has a long term provider I was seeing for years pull a fast one on me, Shits getting ridiculous.

What's worst is that the more you guys continue to entertain them and do it. The more they'll keep doing it.[/QUOTE]NEVER! EVER! Pay deposits!! By paying a deposit you are risking 2 very bad situations; 1 is being ghosted and ripped off as a lot of you have experienced. And 2 if you don't get ripped off, paying a deposit leaves the ball in the girl's court, meaning they can now TAKE THEIR TIME arriving to you which often means HOURS later than planned (and by then we never want them) I can't tell you how many times I have REFUSED deposits only to have the girl either text me back or call me back shortly to make agree to meet WITHOUT a deposit! Its a Poker game guys, keep your poker face and ALWAYS REFUSE paying deposits and most of the time, they will cave in and see you anyway and if they don't, chances are they were going to rob you in the first place. So simply move on to another provider. If we ALL STOP paying deposits, providers will STOP demanding them! The only deposits I ever give if my jizz in their holes. ONLY SUCKERS PAY DEPOSITS!!

[QUOTE=IceCreamLoad;6243207]This is a PSA: Can you guys seriously please stop paying "deposits" for these WGs, Only agency hoes require deposits and even then a lot of them don't as they come with 'security'.

In all my years hobbying this shit is getting out of hand, All these scammers asking for Cashapp / Zelle deposits just to come-up with quick cash and rip you off.

It has been the new trend since COVID began, I even has a long term provider I was seeing for years pull a fast one on me, Shits getting ridiculous.

What's worst is that the more you guys continue to entertain them and do it. The more they'll keep doing it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ZekSwinger2;6243516]NEVER! EVER! Pay deposits!! By paying a deposit you are risking 2 very bad situations; 1 is being ghosted and ripped off as a lot of you have experienced.[/QUOTE]If they're asking for deposits then you're asking for what you get! At the very least keep them hanging as long as you can teach these idiots a lesson not with your money!

[QUOTE=Joesun1;6244431]If they're asking for deposits then you're asking for what you get! At the very least keep them hanging as long as you can teach these idiots a lesson not with your money![/QUOTE]If you are a TER member, whether you have a paid membership or the free one, get the TER-rated ladies you have enjoyed and seen to "Whitelist" you. It takes them about one minute to complete this task. You tell your new lady that you are Whitelisted on TER. Also if you have a hobbyist name / handle on other sites, when seeking company from a new (new to you) lady, give her that name too, in your introductory correspondence. This SHOULD help you avoid invasive screening!

If you are dealing with a legit provider, her reason in asking for a deposit is simply to make sure you are in fact legit, you are serious and you are 100% going to show up. Remember they deal with a lot of total weirdo creeps, flakes, pranks, cruel jokes and plenty of JO TW guys. To be clear, I don't agree with deposits AT ALL and if we all refuse to pay, a lot of the deposit nonsense will hopefully go away.

My point: If you tell her you are TER Whitelisted, you have a hobbyist handle (identity your handle on other sites too) and she still demands a deposit, huge Red Flag to move on!

Again, you don't need to pay for TER membership to be Whitelisted, you just need a login / handle. If you had an enjoyable time with your provider, and she has a presence on TER, she should be more than willing to Whitelist you. And if she does, you owe it to her credibility to continue being a legit, reliable, respectful hobbyist.

By the way, I might be stating the obvious here, but keep the same handle / login / I'd for all your sites. Helps with your 'Hobby Cred. '

Bonus: If a provider knows you have a presence on the hobby sites, she is probably going to take good care of you. Bad reviews hurt them. A lot.

[QUOTE=MaxiMillion45;6244599]If you are a TER member, whether you have a paid membership or the free one, get the TER-rated ladies you have enjoyed and seen to "Whitelist" you. It takes them about one minute to complete this task. You tell your new lady that you are Whitelisted on TER. Also if you have a hobbyist name / handle on other sites, when seeking company from a new (new to you) lady, give her that name too, in your introductory correspondence. This SHOULD help you avoid invasive screening!

If you are dealing with a legit provider, her reason in asking for a deposit is simply to make sure you are in fact legit, you are serious and you are 100% going to show up. Remember they deal with a lot of total weirdo creeps, flakes, pranks, cruel jokes and plenty of JO TW guys. To be clear, I don't agree with deposits AT ALL and if we all refuse to pay, a lot of the deposit nonsense will hopefully go away.

My point: If you tell her you are TER Whitelisted, you have a hobbyist handle (identity your handle on other sites too) and she still demands a deposit, huge Red Flag to move on!

Again, you don't need to pay for TER membership to be Whitelisted, you just need a login / handle. If you had an enjoyable time with your provider, and she has a presence on TER, she should be more than willing to Whitelist you. And if she does, you owe it to her credibility to continue being a legit, reliable, respectful hobbyist.

By the way, I might be stating the obvious here, but keep the same handle / login / I'd for all your sites. Helps with your 'Hobby Cred. '

Bonus: If a provider knows you have a presence on the hobby sites, she is probably going to take good care of you. Bad reviews hurt them. A lot.[/QUOTE]That sounds great and I hope that works out for some of you. As for me, I will never trust any provider to do honest business. There is absolutely nothing that covers my ass as well as the time it takes out of my own day to try to pin one down and also if you have to drive to an incall. There is nobody compensating me for my time or my gas. I also don't buy into reviews or any of these websites. I am sure there are a few reputable providers out there that do legit, honest business, although I strongly think it leans more on the ripoff side of things in this town and I would NEVER suggest anyone put down any deposit. There is no kind of binding contract and it isn't my fault that these girls have to deal with creeps.

Not to mention, I can't stand when a girl thinks her time is more valuable than mine.

[QUOTE=IceCreamLoad;6243207]This is a PSA: Can you guys seriously please stop paying "deposits" for these WGs, Only agency hoes require deposits and even then a lot of them don't as they come with 'security'.

In all my years hobbying this shit is getting out of hand, All these scammers asking for Cashapp / Zelle deposits just to come-up with quick cash and rip you off.

It has been the new trend since COVID began, I even has a long term provider I was seeing for years pull a fast one on me, Shits getting ridiculous.

What's worst is that the more you guys continue to entertain them and do it. The more they'll keep doing it.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you have to accept what life brings, knowing that you cannot change it. You can pay a deposit or just ignore that provider and move on. However this is such a clandestine hobby and I'd guess that for every guy here on USA, there are probably 100+ that cannot or will not ever join a site like this. That being said, if every person here who has in the past and still does pay deposits stopped, it's not going to change their deposit policy. Remember, they wouldn't be doing it if nobody was paying.

I posted about this before, deposits are simple for me. I will never pay a deposit for an unverified provider. I will if she has multiple reviews on different, trustworthy sites or I've received info from a friend or someone here who is reliable. The very first time I paid a deposit I got scammed because she was a great salesperson. That was the last time and I've probably paid a deposit 10 times over the years using my simple "no reviews / reference, no deposit" approach and the "deposit required" provider is usually towards the end of my to do list. I've passed on several that I found out later were totally legit but as with anything in dealing with the hobby, you have to be smart and careful. One way to avoid deposits is to offer to pay for lyft / uber if you are doing an outcall. That way at least I know two things. She will show up and she won't be getting dropped off by management who is lurking somewhere on my street. I've also found that providers that uber / lyft will stay longer and will have a drink or two with you.

Just wanted to share this video because some of the stuff I see on this board from mongers that do not seem to consider this type of shit that can go down. Maybe theyre naive or just dumb, but either way. I hope this helps someone.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFsMMIieXH4[/URL]

I remember seeing her a while back. Haven't done this in a while, saw her for a car for $. Price wasn't bad but jeez. BJ was very very short and she was complaining on how her back was hurting. Kept telling me her next client is on the way and tried another 10 seconds kept stopping with more HJ and HJ doesn't do anything for me LOL. Basically more talkin and she tried givin me the kitty and she was bleeding. Tried askin for some money back but she was like "I just did these for you" which in total was like 2 minutes of anything but we were in the car for 10. Told her to keep the money and dropped her off. Just be careful if she does this with anyone.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/122142264/7028066392[/URL]

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;6266026]Just wanted to share this video because some of the stuff I see on this board from mongers that do not seem to consider this type of shit that can go down. Maybe theyre naive or just dumb, but either way. I hope this helps someone.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFsMMIieXH4[/URL][/QUOTE]Guy is a moron, he did a video on the worst places in Vegas and all of the spots he did was in around the strip. No Twain and Swenson or by Nellis in my opinion he's a waste of time!

[QUOTE=Joesun1;6274734]Guy is a moron, he did a video on the worst places in Vegas and all of the spots he did was in around the strip. No Twain and Swenson or by Nellis in my opinion he's a waste of time![/QUOTE]That may be true, I wouldn't know. This vid just popped up and he did say some good points about the hobby that could help someone out. Just check the sugar baby section and it's pretty close to many of the things mentioned.

Watch out for posts where the lady is holding a phone #, presumably hers. Here's why:

One of my regulars was telling me about corresponding with a polite guy. They talked on the phone briefly but mostly texted. He didn't drag the call on and on like a Timewaster J / O guy. She said he asked all the right questions and was nice & respectful in both the call and his correspondence. Then just when they had the date set, he did a 180 in his attitude. He texted her something like this: "Look, if I'm going to drive all the way over to your place, I really need you to give me one final assurance that you aren't a fake. Write down my phone number clearly on a piece of paper and take a selfie. Send it to me. " She was offended (well-reviewed on TER & them) so she didn't do it. Later she complained to one of her friends who said, "Hello! Don't you see what he was trying to do?

She really didn't. She was too confused by his sudden lack of trust and rude demand for the selfie to see he was trying to steal that picture with his phone # on it and then use it to create his own ad by stealing her regular posted photos and adding the selfie with his phone number on it. I can only guess this was for the sole purpose of collecting deposits (which could subsequently destroy her reputation as a legit provider). Lots of broke-ass lazy sickos out there. He probably called her to ensure she was herself real. Then the scheme ensued.

I guess a red flag would be if you saw an ad with a bunch of regular (stolen) photos and then One isolated mirror / other selfie with a different phone number on it.

Bad dudes everywhere!! Would you have caught that?