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[QUOTE=Goku17;6894351]Idk, but I would be traumatized forever if I found out I had sex with a man. My testosterone levels would completely drop from the shock. Not something I would want my guy friends finding out about for sure. I have to uphold myself to some standards.[/QUOTE]Yeah maybe that answer was just the romantic in me but who knows how I would really react if faced with that scenario.
[QUOTE=Goku17;6894351]Idk, but I would be traumatized forever if I found out I had sex with a man. My testosterone levels would completely drop from the shock. Not something I would want my guy friends finding out about for sure.[/QUOTE]FYI, last time we got started on this topic the admin deleted every comment. So don't want do sidetrack things just add a friendly insight about wanting what you want.
If you cannot tell a girl was born a man, she is beautiful and you enjoy your company, then I'd happily do it again. I will go further and say if she is at least a 7, I'd rather pay to have sex with her, than be paid myself to have sex with an ugly woman.
The only woman I know of like this, she was an 8 or 9. She's a model right now, appeared in a Thai drama. You cannot tell, not even by pussy. And I'd rather fuck her than 80% of women (to be clear rated 6 and under), who are fat, ugly, or at best plain. You couldn't pay me $1000 to sleep with an ugly woman (4 and under).
I have a list of 50+ women I've tried, and she is ranked #11. Kiko / Tomi / Pink is ranked #7, Mari / Namiko ranked #9 for comparison.
No judgement to those who are disgusted, I get it. Society puts a lot of tabboos out there and you are free to embrace it or not. That said, you are in charge of how you feel and are so don't let anyone else shame you for it.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;6894362]FYI, last time we got started on this topic the admin deleted every comment. So don't want do sidetrack things just add a friendly insight about wanting what you want.
If you cannot tell a girl was born a man, she is beautiful and you enjoy your company, then I'd happily do it again. I will go further and say if she is at least a 7, I'd rather pay to have sex with her, than be paid myself to have sex with an ugly woman.
The only woman I know of like this, she was an 8 or 9. She's a model right now, appeared in a Thai drama. You cannot tell, not even by pussy. And I'd rather fuck her than 80% of women (to be clear rated 6 and under), who are fat, ugly, or at best plain. You couldn't pay me $1000 to sleep with an ugly woman (4 and under).
I have a list of 50+ women I've tried, and she is ranked #11. Kiko / Tomi / Pink is ranked #7, Mari / Namiko ranked #9 for comparison.
No judgement to those who are disgusted, I get it. Society puts a lot of tabboos out there and you are free to embrace it or not. That said, you are in charge of how you feel and are so don't let anyone else shame you for it.[/QUOTE]I have spent a lot of time in Bangkok, I don't judge guys who are open to experiences like this it's just not our niche.
That said, more than once I've been walking down Sukhamvit saw some ladyboy and thought "it should be illegal for a guy to look that hot. ".
A2.
Lend me some perspective guys.
Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.
Seems like her coworker / daughter / whoever didn't want to wait outside so she just hid herself poorly.
At the time I was weirded out but kind of drunk, so I rolled with it. Though the second nut was a little difficult to bust.
That said, there's a reason I saw this woman as many times as I did and honestly, I want to go back.
After that awkward experience I swore I wouldn't return but. You know how it is.
My question for you all is, would this be a deal breaker? Would I be a sucker for going back, or is it no big deal? I've had a woman's friend wait in the bathroom before but on the ground by the side of the bed was a new experience.
[QUOTE=Rgk1015;6904882]Lend me some perspective guys.
Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.
Seems like her coworker / daughter / whoever didn't want to wait outside so she just hid herself poorly.
At the time I was weirded out but kind of drunk, so I rolled with it. Though the second nut was a little difficult to bust.
That said, there's a reason I saw this woman as many times as I did and honestly, I want to go back.
After that awkward experience I swore I wouldn't return but. You know how it is.
My question for you all is, would this be a deal breaker? Would I be a sucker for going back, or is it no big deal? I've had a woman's friend wait in the bathroom before but on the ground by the side of the bed was a new experience.[/QUOTE]Hold up. So she was near you on the ground and you just jerked off? If that's the case stop that shit and socialize with her dude.
[QUOTE=Rgk1015;6904882]Lend me some perspective guys.
Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.
Seems like her coworker / daughter / whoever didn't want to wait outside so she just hid herself poorly.
At the time I was weirded out but kind of drunk, so I rolled with it. Though the second nut was a little difficult to bust.
That said, there's a reason I saw this woman as many times as I did and honestly, I want to go back.
After that awkward experience I swore I wouldn't return but. You know how it is..[/QUOTE]Why don't you just ask your lover who the other woman is? My guess is a roommate. She might also be a coworker. This might be an opportunity for a threesome if you are into that. If the other woman's presence bothers you, you can ask your friend for more privacy.
[QUOTE=BSouthgate;6905425]Why don't you just ask your lover who the other woman is? My guess is a roommate. She might also be a coworker. This might be an opportunity for a threesome if you are into that. If the other woman's presence bothers you, you can ask your friend for more privacy.[/QUOTE]I think you are right. The lady is middle-age so I was a little weirded out by the idea that her college-age daughter was just hanging out on the ground near the bed as I went to town on her mom. It seems a bit more likely she's just a coworker.
[QUOTE=Kingsli;6905393]Hold up. So she was near you on the ground and you just jerked off? If that's the case stop that shit and socialize with her dude.[/QUOTE]Not quite. It was a hotel room with two beds. We were on the bed closer to the back of the room. Between the bed and the wall of the room, there was about a 1. 5 foot gap. After the first round, before the second, I heard music from the side of the bed and thought my phone fell down or something. I looked over the side of the bed and the girl was laying down on her back on the ground, fully clothed, looking at her phone. She didn't see me. I didn't say anything and stayed on the bed. The woman I came to see started touching me pretty soon after so I just sort of ignored it.
[QUOTE=Rgk1015;6904882]
Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.
[/QUOTE]Who is this? Booker? Some of us might want to see. Might be an unaddressed kink!
I went back. My package is sore.
Went into her new hotel room ready to check behind the bed, but the gap was empty this time. Went to the bathroom, and when I saw the shower curtain drawn, I had a feeling that the bathtub was the hider's new spot.
I always like to wash up a bit even though I had just showered, so I pulled the curtain back to wet a towel. Yep, she's there again. Got a better look this time and I think she's actually somewhere in her late 30's. Wearing obvious hooker attire.
The lady first told me (through Google Translate) "sorry, we are sharing a room due to cost," and later elaborated that it was her friend from Spain on vacation. That part seemed like a weird fib-- maybe she thought it would make me more comfortable. She was pretty obviously a coworker sharing a room, but whatever.
I was totally fine with her sequestered in the bathtub-- knowing now that the mystery woman was indeed not her daughter, waiting for her mom to finish getting pounded. Something about the odd situation made it hotter for me so as I said, I left extra sore. I had a hard time walking down the stairs. I guess the lesson is to keep an open mind?
[QUOTE=Rgk1015;6904882]Lend me some perspective guys.
Seen this woman several times. Last time I went, I heard some music playing from the side of the bed, in the gap between the bed and wall. I peeked over and saw another woman, younger-- maybe 20-22-- watching videos on her phone, laying on the ground.
Seems like her coworker / daughter / whoever didn't want to wait outside so she just hid herself poorly.
At the time I was weirded out but kind of drunk, so I rolled with it. Though the second nut was a little difficult to bust.
That said, there's a reason I saw this woman as many times as I did and honestly, I want to go back.
After that awkward experience I swore I wouldn't return but. You know how it is.
My question for you all is, would this be a deal breaker? Would I be a sucker for going back, or is it no big deal? I've had a woman's friend wait in the bathroom before but on the ground by the side of the bed was a new experience.[/QUOTE]What's the harm? What you don't like about it? This is unique but wanting to stay in the bathroom with or without permission is much more common. I always turn them down. Escorts never do that. SW much more often when they are traveling. But it's a security risk as the other may go through your belongings or open the door for someone else.
It's safer working and traveling in pairs or more. But it's a hassle sharing a room doing it all day, finding another place to sit for an hour. Depending on time and place, it may not be safe to hang out alone.
It's a kind of disrespect. But in a safe hotel and you know they are not plotting something, I'm fine with it.
Time for a threesome. ?
[QUOTE=Rgk1015;6906143]I went back. My package is sore.
Went into her new hotel room ready to check behind the bed, but the gap was empty this time. Went to the bathroom, and when I saw the shower curtain drawn, I had a feeling that the bathtub was the hider's new spot.
I always like to wash up a bit even though I had just showered, so I pulled the curtain back to wet a towel. Yep, she's there again. Got a better look this time and I think she's actually somewhere in her late 30's. Wearing obvious hooker attire.
The lady first told me (through Google Translate) "sorry, we are sharing a room due to cost," and later elaborated that it was her friend from Spain on vacation. That part seemed like a weird fib-- maybe she thought it would make me more comfortable. She was pretty obviously a coworker sharing a room, but whatever.
I was totally fine with her sequestered in the bathtub-- knowing now that the mystery woman was indeed not her daughter, waiting for her mom to finish getting pounded. Something about the odd situation made it hotter for me so as I said, I left extra sore. I had a hard time walking down the stairs. I guess the lesson is to keep an open mind?[/QUOTE]I would insist that the girl in the tub join the fun. I would offer either no additional tip or only a small one, say 40. Otherwise, I would walk away. I bet that they would accept this deal. Was your target lady a SW or an escort?
This is in response to post 36576 In the MP thread by HoDough, the gonorrhea scare. This is called NGU, non-gonococcal urethritis. It's any infection in the urinary tract that is not the clap.
Back in 1981 a civvy I was seeing for sex told me she had NGU and she might have gotten it from me, or one of the other two guys she was seeing. I said well I don't think but maybe so I'll get myself checked. I didn't have it. But I did gain status with her because the other two guys swore up and down that it couldn't possibly have been them, I was the only one to fess up that there was a bit of a chance it was me. Hahaha.
Pardon me for tooting my own horn but I've never told this story before and this is the only forum I might do that in.
Lift Her Up.
Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.
My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.
I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.
Lift Her Up.
[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6929129]Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.
My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.
I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.
Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Long ago, an ex-hooker wrote a book, The Happy Hooker, and became a sex columnist in Penthouse. Xaviera Hollander. Consult her writings.