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Smoke Screen I would take it to mean he save the best for last.
[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;2081154]I want to know why I'm last on the list, I think I deserve the first place, nobody hates the weasel more than me. Unless he / she / it saved the best for last.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dh1610;2081314]I do believe you have the perfect cure right around the corner. Go get a double dose and I am sure you will be smiling again.[/QUOTE]To living in a town soooooo fucking full of providers is the lack of pressure to ever feel like I "have" to get some punanni. I like to do my part and not see girls when I'm illing, no use in spreading this shit around because later I'll just get it back.
Besides who wants to screw when you have a fever? I kinda like it when they do (extra heat) but when I'm sick I'm happy to lay around in bed all day. My office is just 5 steps from my bed. I can work when I'm sick. Load up on the OJ and Gatorade and catch up on TV. You can learn all kinds of stuff doing that, who knew Hitler didn't die in Germany but rather came to Argentina.
A2.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2081453]who knew Hitler didn't die in Germany but rather came to Argentina.A2.[/QUOTE]Yeah but it was only the head, & it's in deep freeze & can only unleash the most brilliantly twisted mind of the 20th century in case of planetary invasion, who better to deal with the extermination of a species, but as a backup plan the Argentina women are ready willing & able to fuck the invaders to death! I think I will invade Argentina!
[QUOTE=Deb4512;2081006]It started out with him tipping more and he never insinuated that he was expecting any of you to tip more if you couldn't afford to do so and he did not insinuate that he has more money than everyone else and was rubbing it in your faces. He never said that he tips extra for inferior services, actually he states the opposite. He never said he was a high roller and was also accused of making it more difficult for the rest of you, because he tips more. So be it. He can afford it. I don't see where the reasons were for jumping on him originally. He offhandedly made a remark about tipping more and it went along with his post and then the shit hit the fan! I didn't see the big to do and you guys all ganged up on him and started bullying him. Every one of you would be upset. He pmed someone, but then Apologized for doing so. I think you guys were originally way too hard on him and read between the lines and made it a to do about nothing. I'm not saying that he didn't go off the deep end over the bullying. He did. But you don't know his background. Maybe he has some stress in his life. You have no idea what's going on with him personally. And by the way most of you guys are hot heads too. A disclaimer so no one reads more into this post: He was obviously Wrong Wrong Wrong for going overboard! And posting on CLCE about the board and threatening to turn you all in. Ok? Here's the posts:
Yardape08 Yardape08 is online now.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dh1610.
PW my good friend I am in agreement. I think we are seeing Ledger6969 true colors. To steal a phrase from a previous battle "Fucktard" is a needy boasting hotheaded turd. Ledger first you throw fiery daggers in PM's at me and accuse me of something that made no mention of you nor had anything to do with you. Although you apologized after I took you to task you clearly are a quick tempered guy. Now you have the need to brag about tipping if in fact you really do. You must be an absolute joy to deal with. Maybe excessive tipping is the only way you can get the poor girl to give you the time of day. It would be a pleasure at times like this if we had a delete button.
Quote Originally Posted by PwHerman.
Double? Are you fucking kidding me? So you are tipping $80 for a HJ with maybe some roaming. Seriously, why? If I am tipping $80 I am getting, at the very least, a CBJ with plenty of UTC T&be roaming but the girl must be petite and hot. If she is average she gets $60 and is that's that. I have had EPIC sessions of FS, BBBJ etc for $100, are you saying that you are tipping $200 for FS? Are your sessions doubly epic? LMFAO.
Quote Originally Posted by SmokeScreen.
I have to agree with PW & DH, I see no reason to double the tip for average service. You are not the only member who can afford to do it, lots of us can, but common sense wins over throwing money away.
Quote Originally Posted by Ledger6969.
I have visited Michelle recently at her other location in CT. Always tip very well I tip double what you guys think is the norm. I can afford it so I have no problem doing it but, tipping is personal. Michelle. I have tipped very well. Sometimes, maybe I feel she maybe not quite up to the norm that day. I still tip the more than generous amount.
You may think tipping is personal however in this game when you overtip it has a direct affect on everyone else by raising the girl's expectations on the rest of us. Some hobbyists are lucky to scrape up just enough $ to have fun once in awhile and in my view it is a selfish act just because you can afford it as you say. I have read many reports about members paying the standard tip for average service and they receive a big pout from the girl because of arrogant high rollers like you who precede them. Are you trying to win their affection and hope they like you by overpaying? Do you also brag to them about what kind of car you drive? If so I think this behavior is pathetic and they probably ultimately view you as a bore and a chump.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ledger6969;2068254]As some. Of you may know diva is Michelle's mist recent addition in the Chinatown scene. She fetches 80,100 or 1.20 and I personally have shelled out 200 for her services absolutely nothing. Untrue to be told here just disclosure. So, if you are looking for the standard .40 HE you may be a little disapoointed. You might even take a walk over a few streets daytime hours and find her working at another so called unsuspecting hairsalon to look for your finish.[/QUOTE]I stand by what I said and in my opinion over-tipping does have an affect on the rest of us especially at an AMP. Not sure how much you know about AMP's Deb but unlike conventional escorting numerous girls are working side by side in the same establishment competing for our business. And they compare notes and when one hears another got a larger tip the others also adjust their expectations. Just read some of the reviews on NMS in the Providence Massage thread about girls pouting when the standard tip is given after a about of overzealous tipping by other customers. And before you know it the standard tip is now raised. What will surely follow the pout is the level of service the next time you come to see that girl as you are now pegged as a average or standard tipper. To me my idea of an above average tip or reward is returning to see the girl over and over again.
And Ledger did admit to doubling the tip even when the girl is not up to par so I don't understand what the reward is for. And I never said Ledger himself called himself a high roller-that is my choice of words and I have known some people in my personal life who spread $ around like it's going out of style and yes I am inferring that it is usually done to impress. And I also stand by my assertion that the girls often look at such overtures as a sign of weakness. I have been told this directly by several girls so it is more than just conjecture on my part.
I have also attached another post above where Ledger advises he shelled out $200 for her services for in his words "absolutely nothing". And he states that if you are looking for the standard $40 HE tip you may be disappointed. To me this is a direct result of Michelle receiving inflated tips and thus setting her bar higher for everyone else.
And yes I believe that all of this over-tipping came with expectations or maybe a quid pro quo with Michelle on Ledger's part which when wasn't met or he was rebuffed led to his trashing of her on the other site. None of this was ever explained by Ledger by the way and was not as a result of any piling on here but rather preceded most of our commentary.
[QUOTE=Admin2;2081311]Yeah I saw that some dickweeds tried to get in some late last minute new user votes. The only way this poll would have effected closing or not closing would have been an overwhelming majority against.
Sorry I haven't been active, I've been sick as a dog the last couple days.
A2.[/QUOTE]Why am I not surprised at this? I was talking to a friend here recently and predicted this would happen. It's not hard to guess who might have played a part in this and spent the necessary effort to try and stifle free speech and debate. It's a good thing this is an electronic poll and A2 doesn't have to deal with any hanging chads.
Honestly I have never understood why this has been a big deal. Lets face it, we all know, including LE, that a girl on BP has no interest in discussing poetry.
Hypothetically, lets say LE calls a girl and asks if she will do BBBJ. She says I don't discuss services. Do any of you think that they decide " Ok, this one is ok, she's doing nothing wrong." ? Its not how it works. LE decides a girl is a target and calls her. They don't give a shit about her services as they have already decided that she will be arrested. IMHO, from the girls side I would be MORE concerned about a gent that didn't ask any questions.
From the other side, if LE has a undercover in the room and she says she will do it all, well, shame on the monger for not doing better research on the girl and her history. If I see something that interests me and I Google the phone I need to see, at the very least, an ad posting history. What I mean is that if there is no link to the current number except the current ad then it is a no fly zone.
On a personal note, if I cannot confirm services in some way, either through reviews, word of mouth, or discussion with the provider then she is off my list. I find it mind boggling that some of you head off to appointments having no clue what your date will or will not do.
I've heard of providers not being arrested, because they wouldn't talk about services. I personally know around five of them. And even if the providers were arrested and talking about services, if they went to court they would most definitely lose their case. The one's who don't speak of services explicitly would have a chance to beat the charges. They can say they are escorts who go on actual dates with her clients or seeking sugar daddies. No sane provider will speak explicitly and as stated even if they admit they do BBBJ's and such, they can change their minds once money is exchanged. If the hobbyist speaks explicitly and le is on the line they will definitely not be able to beat charges if they decide to take their cases to court (even if their reputations are ruined already from the arrest).
For instance this escort only charges $250 an hour and I forget what her half an hour rate is: [URL]paristhespinner.com[/URL] and she has excellent reviews. Then I spot another ladies website. She's in her 40's, is out of shape and average looking and she charges the same. I suppose it's like apples and oranges and some guys prefer normal, everyday looking women, but I still don't understand why the second lady can find hobbyists who will pay the same rates. Isn't this a business based on looks as well as services?
After I saw a pic of me taken by my friend in Florida (I was horrified that I look so big) I'm absolutely floored why the guys in downtown Boston wanted to give me $300 to $400 an hour while I was escorting there! Maybe it's because my boobs are really firm and natural like a 20 year old and I have no wrinkles yet and have soft supple skin, nice thick hair, pretty blue eyes, dimples... LOL. I must be THAT good with my services I've been told by some guys I give the best BBBJ's they've ever had. It must be from watching so much porn lmao and also I refuse to do anything that I'm not really good at. Disclaimer: I'm only paid for time and companionship only. Anything else that takes place during my sessions is free and between consenting adults only.
I'm flattered and really happy that I have so many voice mails to go through from MA, NY and CT. It's hard to understand why guys call from ads that are weeks old LOL Not a big deal though. I've even gotten some emails and texts from clients who say they miss me. .
My friend and I didn't get much of a response from the dominatrix ad. She's got an awesome body and is beautiful, so I don't understand why the lack of response, but I did write no sexual services offered. I suppose that's why we bombedlol.
Last night I went to the art hop in downtown St. Augustine. The city is so beautiful! It's historical with old Spanish style homes. So unlike a lot of Florida cities and towns which are more commercial like Daytona... I really like it down here and I'm glad I brought my cats, my babies, because I'd really miss them otherwise being away from home so long. By the way, when I leave St. Augustine I'm obviously not driving all the way to MA non stop so I was thinking of doing a stop over in Hilton Head. If anyone's been there and can recommend which areas I should stay and also hotels, pm me. I heard MA has been cold, so I'm glad I missed the weather. Most every day it's been sunny and fabulous in Florida! I hope everyone is having a wonderful day! I'm not sure what I'm doing today, but I may just go back to downtown St. Augustine and take in the sites. Xoxoxoxoxoxo Debbie.
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[QUOTE=Deb4512;2082041]I've heard of providers not being arrested, because they wouldn't talk about services. I personally know around five of them. And even if the providers were arrested and talking about services, if they went to court they would most definitely lose their case. The one's who don't speak of services explicitly would have a chance to beat the charges. They can say they are escorts who go on actual dates with her clients or seeking sugar daddies. No sane provider will speak explicitly and as stated even if they admit they do BBBJ's and such, they can change their minds once money is exchanged. If the hobbyist speaks explicitly and le is on the line they will definitely not be able to beat charges if they decide to take their cases to court (even if their reputations are ruined already from the arrest).[/QUOTE]I disagree. Most of the new providers that I ever called would speak about it just fine, at least in my experience.
To few that didn't I said "thanks" and moved on. The competition is too high on backpage for them to be fussy about it. Providers there need us more then we need them and responding to backpage ads is where we take our chances with them too. I know of only one provider who is not begging for new clients because she has more then enough to fit into her schedule. In fact those few times when I tried to put a word out about her I always got 2-3 PMs from angry hobbyists saying that they're having a hard time setting up with her as is and here I am popularizing her even farther. Those who know me better know who I'm talking about.
The rest, even the cream of the crop, would always ask you to spread the word among your friends about them.
I didn't know you were an escort. LOL. If I can do this well, being an older thick, not thin, escort then most anyone will do well. Only two places I did poorly. Atlantic City and Denver Colorado. After the fact I found out that most of the guys don't use backpage in Denver, but another popular site. I've escorted in Vermont, which was where I first started and I was crazy busy, NH, Maine, MA all over, CT and NY are busy as well. Actually I'm still getting a slew of calls and I'm not even advertising! I do know one escort who wasn't busy anywhere she went and she's a super supersized bbw and another escort who wasn't very attractive (although she made $1000 from one client in NH, but that's highly unusual). I met someone in Haverhill who was slow, but she usually made at least $300 a day, as well an escort in Melrose and another in Everett. These areas are apparently not that busy, but otherwise if they moved around they'd do fine. And by the way if you do the math $300 a day isn't too shabby and that's considered a bad day LOL. Who do you know who makes $300 a day? And most escorts make much much more. I can't keep up with all the calls, especially when I'm advertising so what you say makes no sense. The only thing I can think of is maybe the escorts you know are lying to you and say they aren't busy, because they want more money from you, or maybe they can't spell or they post crappy, blurry, unflattering pics on their ads. I cannot believe I'm an anomaly. I've worked with many other escorts who make a killing like I do. The best time was when I first started advertising on CL back in 2008 and that was the beginning of the recession! I got so tired of answering my phone I'd stop taking calls. Also try escorting on Patriots Day weekend near Boston with a tall blonde cougar / ex stripper LOL. Damn, my phone rang every few seconds with a new call I kept a waiting list log! Ugg, it's just not true what you are saying and I always turn down anyone who speaks explicitly. I think Victoria Spencer is funny. When she receives an explicit call asking about specific services and acts, she tells the guys the only thing she can offer them is a bologna sandwich! Then she hangs up on them. LOL. We have the luxury to turn down calls and it's easy to ignore the explicit calls and texts. I usually chastise the guys who speak explicitely or ignore them altogether. None of us wants to get into trouble with le, although you know that you pay for our time and companionship only. This is like my 3rd or 4th post, maybe 5th! Now I'm promising myself to get off of this computer and go on to other things lmao.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2082134]I disagree. Most of the new providers that I ever called would speak about it just fine, at least in my experience.
To few that didn't I said "thanks" and moved on. The competition is too high on backpage for them to be fussy about it. Providers there need us more then we need them and responding to backpage ads is where we take our chances with them too. I know of only one provider who is not begging for new clients because she has more then enough to fit into her schedule. In fact those few times when I tried to put a word out about her I always got 2-3 PMs from angry hobbyists saying that they're having a hard time setting up with her as is and here I am popularizing her even farther. Those who know me better know who I'm talking about.
The rest, even the cream of the crop, would always ask you to spread the word among your friends about them.[/QUOTE]There is a BIG difference from a new provider not knowing the ropes vs one that has been around and probably spooked by LEO a few times.
While a newbie is more willing to want the attention to generate business a few phone calls from LEO to spook them will soon change their ways.
Most of the providers that I have spoken with about reviews either say NO or be discreet with what you say. A PM can get most of the intimate details that most usually want rather that an intimate description.
Any quality provider is not looking to fill every hour of her time with clients like some new providers try to do. It's comforting when you find one that truly enjoys what they do and tells you thay only see a few a day. Think of the economics $150 for a room and they see a minimum of 5 clients a day. They still walk away with a reasonable amount for a days work or play depending on who they are.
My special friend and I were about to go enjoy a cave room at the Candlelite Motor Inn when we found out that a fire has closed the place.
Does anyone know of any motels that have an in-room jacuzzi? Looking for something West of Boston, within 45 minutes of Acton / Littleton.
Also would appreciate any news about what's happening at the Candlelite. I've tried calling but get no answer.
Why anybody would pay more to get laid than to see a doctor. That Paris spinner chick is pretty hot and I would most certainly bone her, but 250 fucking dollars. It just aint going to happen. I'm not speaking harshly against her, she might be awesome but that's just crazy money.
I'm with my girl and we just finished watching the Kentucky Derby and had a little party. Admin cum on now! $250 an hour is nothing in the Boston area. I know of a popular BBW escort who commands $300 an hour. There are a few around here that ask for $500 to $600 an hour. When Caramel Dime is visiting she charges $700 an hour! What were the rates when you lived in the US? The lowest rate around here where you can find a new or half decent provider would be $200 an hour at the least. Anyone who charges any less is probably a junkie and you will be in and out of there in 5 min LOL.
Ok, Admin I have to admit that your personality what women are generally attracted to, that I don't give a damn / suave, charming macho, intelligent, confident attitude you have that women think is hot. Even though I don't know what you look like, you probably don't have to pay for it and can get whatever you want in life. Unfortunately there are some guys who do have to pay either because they don't have good social skills or are single / attached and don't want the drama that women can bring into their lives.
Why do escorts command high wages? Its a matter of supply and demand. There are more men seeking women than women seeking men. Why is that? Because guys can be a pain in the ass! I was a virgin until I was 21, saving myself for what I don't know. Not marriage, because I was married and it was not a good experience. Long story and I won't go there now. The first guy I slept with was my bf. He begged me to have sex with him until I relented and he ended up taking off work that day LOL. The second, and I remember him vividly, I had met him at a bar and brought him home with me. We slept and slept after the deed. When he woke up he hardly looked at me, didn't talk to me, quickly dressed and hit the road. I couldn't figure out what I did for him to act this way, since he was very friendly at the bar when I first met him and while we having nookie.
Have you ever been a woman, been horny and brought a guy home or had a friends with benefits situations. The majority of guys who are one nighters or FWB's are total assholes! Funny thing is when it's free guys want to get off as quickly as possible and generally aren't interested in pleasing the woman. This is when we want to be pleased! The majority of the time when guys pay they want the experience to last as long as possible and want the escort to get off (and this is generally when a woman doesn't want to be bothered. Not me though, because I'm insatiable).
Try a fwb? They are mostly very disrespectful to women, why? Because they take the woman for granted, because what they are getting is free. They don't have to work for it. When you all pay this is when you want us. When you don't pay, you tend to throw us away. Gosh darn, if we reject you or don't pay you any attention, that's when you really want us. When we show you that we like you we get dissed. So this is why women don't want to give it away for free and the same reason we expect to be paid well. For one, we have to distance ourselves emotionally, we have to pace ourselves so we don't get burned out, we are concerned with le and a possible jail sentence or criminal record. And also possible STD's, being assaulted or killed. This is why we charge more than doctor's do.