We all want 18,19, 20. But alas this is Cincy circa 2021. LOL
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5299888]56 is not a 30-year-old woman with "experience". (I'm not sure why some guys on this board are so sold on "experience", since that just means being at the end of a longer line; but so be it.).
Nor is 56 a 36-year-old "MILF".
56 is a *grandmother*. I can remember my maternal grandparents at the age of 56. (I was about ten years old at the time.).
Once again: I understand that not everyone wants an 18 or a 19-year-old. (Honestly, my sweet spot is probably between the ages of 22 and 28.) But that doesn't mean we have to accept the opposite extreme.[/QUOTE]Even the ones that prefer the occasional milf, gilf. I've found my standards have 'broadened' as I've gotten older. And there's a porn consumption component to that. I have a pretty high sex drive, and would probably have gotten into alot more trouble over the years relationship-wise, financially, etc if I didn't utilize that to help 'walk the dog,' so to speak. There's so much of it out there, and these sites like Pornhub have 'related' videos that can take you down niche and fetish rabbit holes. Its helped to expand the range of women I'm attracted to.
Takeaway: Supplement your real sex with more niche porn. LOL. Or move to a bigger city.
USASG AMP teasing = HE foreplay
[QUOTE=TomS1977;5300117]That ain't a tease, its a straight up invitation for HE or more than that. The idea of a tease is that those acts do not lead up to the anticipated act.[/QUOTE]Outside of discussing AMPs on USASG I would agree with your definition of teasing. In my experience here its always been another way of referring to the 'foreplay' part of a massage, before she puts you in her hands, mouth, or pussy and makes you happy.
I partly agree, PearishBA, but there are limits
[QUOTE=PearishBA;5300032]Even the ones that prefer the occasional milf, gilf. I've found my standards have 'broadened' as I've gotten older. And there's a porn consumption component to that. I have a pretty high sex drive, and would probably have gotten into alot more trouble over the years relationship-wise, financially, etc if I didn't utilize that to help 'walk the dog,' so to speak. There's so much of it out there, and these sites like Pornhub have 'related' videos that can take you down niche and fetish rabbit holes. Its helped to expand the range of women I'm attracted to.
Takeaway: Supplement your real sex with more niche porn. LOL. Or move to a bigger city.[/QUOTE]I've been hobbying in Cincinnati since the late 1990's, and I've seen many ups and downs.
Basically, the market here has never been great.
There have been a few good runs: In 1999, an outfit called Climaxx Girls briefly had some hot young ones. That lasted for about a year, until the agency was shut down. More recently, Discreet Desires of Dayton had some young (under 30) hotties from 2008 through 2018. Ten good years for them.
And (more on topic to this forum), there have been a few good AMPs with young attendants who would do FS for around $180 total.
I'm not asking for 18- and 19-year-olds, for the record. The 18- or 19-year-old who will reliably put out has *always* been the rare unicorn. All I'm asking for is decent quality been the ages of 22 and 34. That shouldn't be an impossible quest.
Still, the last year has been *awful*. I migrated to the sugar sites back in 2011 because I didn't like the selection in the local escort market. That kept me happy for about a decade. Now Seeking is all sextortion scams and pic sellers. (Thanks, COVID!)
All of us (me included) sometimes choose to make due with what is available, versus what we would prefer. This week I have an appointment scheduled with a 33-year-old escort. She's nice enough; but I'd much rather be seeing a 23-year-old escort.
But you have to draw the line *somewhere*. And for me, at least, the 56-year-old mama-san, a stone's throw from her 60th milestone birthday, is where the line gets drawn. There is a point where yes, I will close my wallet, bide my time, and wait for the market to improve.
I do think that if we send the message (with our wallets) that a 56-year-old mama-san is "good enough", that is the quality level they will continue to provide. If we walk out when they present us with a nearly 60 year old woman, that will send a message, too.
Thanks again for your info!
Porn broadening the horizons
[QUOTE=PearishBA;5300032]Even the ones that prefer the occasional milf, gilf. I've found my standards have 'broadened' as I've gotten older. And there's a porn consumption component to that. I have a pretty high sex drive, and would probably have gotten into alot more trouble over the years relationship-wise, financially, etc if I didn't utilize that to help 'walk the dog,' so to speak. There's so much of it out there, and these sites like Pornhub have 'related' videos that can take you down niche and fetish rabbit holes. Its helped to expand the range of women I'm attracted to.
Takeaway: Supplement your real sex with more niche porn. LOL. Or move to a bigger city.[/QUOTE]I'm in this camp. I'm in my late 30's and have been watching porn for 2 decades plus. The first decade was all tapes and dvds with tight bodied hotties but over time I got bored with that and found myself venturing into more niche or hardcore stuff that had women that were older or a little more worn out. This really ramped up after streaming porn became a thing and DVDs went away. Probably around 2005 - 2010. I used to never even consider the amateur genre but now there's so much of it with so many talented and hot providers that I almost prefer it. I definitely am more attracted to women older than me for whatever reason so when I am faced with a 40+ year old mamasan I can use my imagination and get through it. Asians aren't really my thing anyway, of course I prefer the young and hotter ones but we simply don't have that in Cincinnati so you have to make do. I'm not hitting AMPs weekly or anything but I can visit once every two months and be happy with whatever they throw at me, typically.
When I travel, I try to hit the places with young hotties, but other cities are starting to decline as well. Hopefully things turn around, a saturated market would be great and I don't really understand why we don't have it. There's no shortage of beautiful women from other countries looking to make more money and there is definitely a demand for them here. A hot, 20-30 year old Asian or Euro chick could charge triple what the old birds ask for and have a line out the door.
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Porn and AMP / provider expectations
[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;5301293]I'm in this camp. I'm in my late 30's and have been watching porn for 2 decades plus. The first decade was all tapes and dvds with tight bodied hotties but over time I got bored with that and found myself venturing into more niche or hardcore stuff that had women that were older or a little more worn out. This really ramped up after streaming porn became a thing and DVDs went away. Probably around 2005 - 2010. I used to never even consider the amateur genre but now there's so much of it with so many talented and hot providers that I almost prefer it. I definitely am more attracted to women older than me for whatever reason so when I am faced with a 40+ year old mamasan I can use my imagination and get through it. Asians aren't really my thing anyway, of course I prefer the young and hotter ones but we simply don't have that in Cincinnati so you have to make do. I'm not hitting AMPs weekly or anything but I can visit once every two months and be happy with whatever they throw at me, typically.
When I travel, I try to hit the places with young hotties, but other cities are starting to decline as well. Hopefully things turn around, a saturated market would be great and I don't really understand why we don't have it. There's no shortage of beautiful women from other countries looking to make more money and there is definitely a demand for them here. A hot, 20-30 year old Asian or Euro chick could charge triple what the old birds ask for and have a line out the door.[/QUOTE]I think you may be on to something MarblesKyle. In fact, I think you may have made a profound point.
I'm a GenX-er in my early 50's, and I was a teenager in the 1980's. You were born when I was in high school (1982 - 1986), or thereabouts.
One thing about porn in the 1980's: It wasn't all that easy for a 15-year-old boy to acquire it, and it wasn't easy for him to watch it. You had to watch it on the VHS machine in the family room, and that could lead to some unpleasant moments if your parents came home earlier than expected. And that's assuming that you could get one of those VHS tapes to begin with.
My main form of visual stimulation as an adolescent / young adult male in the 1980's was Playboy, which I believe the Millennials more or less skipped. Playboy was sold at most convenience stores; and you could usually find a clerk who was willing to sell a copy to a 15-year-old boy who looked a few years older.
Playboy, of course, maintained very high standards. Not only were almost all of the women under 30, they had perfect bodies. They were also posed perfectly and airbrushed. They looked like goddesses.
But those were the images that fired my erotic imagination in my formative years. So when I think "Asian fantasy", what comes to mind is Pia Reyes, Playboy's Miss November 1988 (attachment). That is what I am envisioning when I go into an AMP. You can see now why I am seriously disappointed with the dumpy old mama-san.
Likewise, I don't much care for most of the porn on the "hubs" nowadays, because I find that too many of the women in those video clips look old / out-of-shape / rough to me.
It may be that all that whacking off to Playboy in the 1980's set my standards unrealistically high.
