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[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7213405]This wouldn't surprise me, women (especially attractive younger women) are so dishonest they would certainly try to play it both ways (engaging in prostitution but pretending they are not). If a friend or family member catches the, they just claim to be doing femdom or scamming simps, when in reality they are taking dick for $. Sounds about right. Probably a lot of them are too dumb to know what platonic means and also too lazy to look it up. The remaining 10% actually limit themsleves to a true platonic relationship, get no takers, and are off the site in a month.[/QUOTE]This is an Occam's Razor situation. The simplest explanation is usually correct.

What's probably going on is that many girls think there are guys out there who will pay them to just be a platonic sugar baby.

In fact this shows up quite a bit in profiles. How often do you come across ones saying their value is to be an online sugar baby, or a great ear to listen, or only looking for mentorship, or great and text conversations and phone calls. This is literally an offer many but not most girls put up on their profiles. And it saddens me to think there are well heeled but lonely enough guys out there that might even remotely consider it.

[QUOTE=Murrican;7213602]What's probably going on is that many girls think there are guys out there who will pay them to just be a platonic sugar baby.

In fact this shows up quite a bit in profiles. How often do you come across ones saying their value is to be an online sugar baby, or a great ear to listen, or only looking for mentorship, or great and text conversations and phone calls. This is literally an offer many but not most girls put up on their profiles. And it saddens me to think there are well heeled but lonely enough guys out there that might even remotely consider it.[/QUOTE]There are dudes that pay just for that unfortunately. Some just want someone to talk to. Some just arm candy for a dinner date. The worst ones are the dudes into findom, the paypigs. Like cmon man! Fuck all that!

[QUOTE=Murrican;7213602]This is an Occam's Razor situation. The simplest explanation is usually correct.

What's probably going on is that many girls think there are guys out there who will pay them to just be a platonic sugar baby.

In fact this shows up quite a bit in profiles. How often do you come across ones saying their value is to be an online sugar baby, or a great ear to listen, or only looking for mentorship, or great and text conversations and phone calls. This is literally an offer many but not most girls put up on their profiles. And it saddens me to think there are well heeled but lonely enough guys out there that might even remotely consider it.[/QUOTE]I see cuddling being listed as a service for street walkers as well so this is a new product category. Chances are new girls are getting bad info from influencers on reddit or tiktok.

Yea, they do try walk that fine line. At least it's a fine line to them. I'm seeing a young (20) college girl who has aspirations to be a doctor. Her OPSEC is nonexistent. She uses her real phone number, and a Seeking profile picture or two which result in social media hits using Google Images. SMH. It took about 5 minutes to discover her identity and that of her parents. Brothers, no need to worry. I'm not stalking her. Just wanted to make sure she wasn't an axe murderer before fucking her silly.

I had her

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7213405]This wouldn't surprise me, women (especially attractive younger women) are so dishonest they would certainly try to play it both ways (engaging in prostitution but pretending they are not). If a friend or family member catches the, they just claim to be doing femdom or scamming simps, when in reality they are taking dick for $. Sounds about right. Probably a lot of them are too dumb to know what platonic means and also too lazy to look it up. The remaining 10% actually limit themsleves to a true platonic relationship, get no takers, and are off the site in a month.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7214155]Yea, they do try walk that fine line. At least it's a fine line to them. I'm seeing a young (20) college girl who has aspirations to be a doctor. Her OPSEC is nonexistent. She uses her real phone number, and a Seeking profile picture or two which result in social media hits using Google Images. SMH. It took about 5 minutes to discover her identity and that of her parents. Brothers, no need to worry. I'm not stalking her. Just wanted to make sure she wasn't an axe murderer before fucking her silly.

I had her

.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you have her at a low price. These are the girls you want to find. New and naive to the sugar game. Young and dumb as some of you like to say. Doesn't bother me about their privacy. Makes it easier to research them and make sure they're not a prostitute, not a catfish and genuine.

Find them fresh and young and keep that price low.

[QUOTE=BringItHome;7211991]Sometimes they check the platonic box just to indicate they are open to a platonic OR sexual arrangement. Doesn't always mean they only want platonic.[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly what one girl who had that in her profile told me. We had sex on every date after the M&G.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7213948]There are dudes that pay just for that unfortunately. Some just want someone to talk to. Some just arm candy for a dinner date. The worst ones are the dudes into findom, the paypigs. Like cmon man! Fuck all that![/QUOTE]That whole paypig thing is a sick one. What guy gets his rocks off being financially fleeced? That's just a messed up kink to have.

[QUOTE=LadiesChoice;7214474]Yes, exactly what one girl who had that in her profile told me. We had sex on every date after the M&G.[/QUOTE]I think a significant slug of those who portray themselves on their profile as only wanting a platonic relationship are trying to repel guys who, in their first messages, are proposing a PPM and literally, giving a girl their room # and a time at a local hotel. They just don't want to be treated like a common hooker.

I have an approach I use for profiles like that, if I perceive some other redeeming feature of it (other than the photos, which I really don't pay a great deal of attention to. In fact, no photos, that's just fine for me). Basically, I acknowledge that most desirable girls (them) on the site get bombarded w / messages, most of them pretty unsavory. Aiming to set yourself apart from the great crowd of dudes treating seeking like it is the same as an escort site (IDK what those are exactly, I don't use them) is the way to get a quality chick at a reasonable fare.

These girls aren't completely dumb, they (mostly) understand they're going to be banging you at some stage. They want that to be a good experience for them, as well as the other aspects of the experience, and of course, a lot of that is related to the $.

I've had a fairly common experience recently, that in texting w / a POT, they will ask for the financial contribution I am willing to make. This might even be before having a phone conversation w / them (I always require this before booking a M&G. Why would someone get in their car to come meet me if they won't speak to me by phone). I learned from a bowl buddy long long ago to try to defer the specifics about allowance as long as possible, if seeking to get into the pants of a true non-pro. I have a generic response to these inquiries, that I would not discuss topics like allowance or sexual preferences with a person I'd never met. My attitude is that someone who does talk price online to have sex w / you is an 'pro' / escort / whatever you want to call her. And not the sort of amateur I am looking for.

Perhaps the way this is working is that someone who really is only in it for the money will require a commitment to that $ before ever meeting, and if I won't go there, I am automatically excluding those who are going to give me the 'pro' experience, rather than the GF experience.

This is the sort of gal you see on WYP. One of the better ones, actually. This one wants 300 for the first date. Mostly, girls are asking for 150-200. The offers I've been making have been more like 49, or 99. The reason for those amounts is that is just below the breakpoint where it costs more credits. I also offer 69, a subtle hint. Mine haven't often been accepted.

A 100 credit slug costs $50. Messaging a girl who accepts a 200 date costs 40 credits.

[QUOTE=Murrican;7214841]That whole paypig thing is a sick one. What guy gets his rocks off being financially fleeced? That's just a messed up kink to have.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It's worse than the simps paying for pics / videos from OF and Instaho's. Guess paypigs are SuperSimps! LOL. All part of the SimpsRus crew.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7215213]Exactly. It's worse than the simps paying for pics / videos from OF and Instaho's. Guess paypigs are SuperSimps! LOL. All part of the SimpsRus crew.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's even a real thing, I think some of these hoes are just trying to meme it into existence. It's like the Keyser Sose of simps.

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7215216]I don't think it's even a real thing, I think some of these hoes are just trying to meme it into existence. It's like the Keyser Sose of simps.[/QUOTE]It is. There's a dude for every type of weird kink out there. Shit some married men/with GFs are technically paypigs starting from many many years ago. Before paypig was ever a term for it. lol

My company uses big data from current govt. And open sources most of our projections indicate a recession coming within a few months thanks to the retard in chief's tariffs schedule. Would a large recession drive down prices or up? I think we might see more women joining up.

[QUOTE=NutritionFacts;7215666]My company uses big data from current govt. And open sources most of our projections indicate a recession coming within a few months thanks to the retard in chief's tariffs schedule. Would a large recession drive down prices or up? I think we might see more women joining up.[/QUOTE]Economy, recession has nothing to do with overpriced pussy. You're overthinking the sugar game. GPS / PPS is just driven by girls being brainwashed by greedy career sugarbabies thinking their pussy is worth way more than it's weight in gold and platinum. Hence terms like golden pussy syndrome and the one I like to use platinum pussy syndrome. That's all.

Not to long ago I used to find these same quality of girls on Craigslist as non-pros. With the average price being $100. And any race you can think of. Asian, White, Latina, Black, etc. Ages 18 to 28. I could spend hours fucking these cute to hot girls. The most I spent on overnights was average $200. Back then GPS was considered $300 and up. I used to dabble on, when it was called Seeking Arrangement, then too. But the same girls were wanting at least double. Just because now they were on a sugardaddy site and they felt more "prestigious" and "high brow". That's why when I read some of the amounts thrown around here between $500 to $1000 for many being average girls. And some a bit ugly. It makes me laugh.

Keep prices low by going only for young and fresh girls. The key age that a sugarbaby should be is 18 to 22, college ages. Max up to 25. The sugarbaby game is just that, for a "baby" girl. A young honey. Once you start indulging the older ages. They start having more bills, responsibilities, etc wanting more money. Nothing terrible about an older sugarbaby. But the cut off should be 30. At 30 and up you should be getting that pussy free by just taking them on a regular civie date. We're not here to provide a living income to these older chics as a sugarbaby. Sugar is to provide some extra help on the side. And they should have a regular job for their main income.

Once they want to make sugar their primary income. They've truly become the definition of a prostitute. Because the pure definition of a prostitute is a woman who makes her living only by fucking, selling that pussy. I call career sugarbabies prostitutes as well. Because they're making selling pussy a regular way of making cash. Basically now a side hustle of selling pussy. Or a part time prostitute.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7215175]This is the sort of gal you see on WYP. One of the better ones, actually. This one wants 300 for the first date. Mostly, girls are asking for 150-200. The offers I've been making have been more like 49, or 99. The reason for those amounts is that is just below the breakpoint where it costs more credits. I also offer 69, a subtle hint. Mine haven't often been accepted.

A 100 credit slug costs $50. Messaging a girl who accepts a 200 date costs 40 credits.[/QUOTE]Is there an understanding, either explicitly or just generally understood, of what a date includes? Like how do you know girls are just showing up to eat dinner and collect a few Benjamins.