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[QUOTE=UltraCreamy;3951960]Yea. I don't consider anything PSE unless it's BBFS minimum. Tired of reading reviews from people who claim they got PSE or GFE with a CBJ and CFS. Very deceptive.
I consider GFE to include BBBJ and CFS.
Anything that is CBJ and CFS is non-GFE.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Those types of hobbyists just help promote the ever growing number of non-GFE ladies days. Some even coin the term lite-GFE, which is no different than non-GFE.
[QUOTE=SlyshyGuy;3950467]Even though there's so many different variations of GFE, by default GFE =/= BBFS.[/QUOTE]No. GFE usually means BBBJ, NOT BBFS. GFE has never been synonymous with BBFS here in California. PSE is BBFS by default. Which is why usually if PSE is offered, it's an addon or upsell. GFE is almost always included in the default rate.
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3952138]I agree completely.
When dealing with a new prostitute my first question is:
- Are you okay with PSE?
If they say yes, then I ask if they are okay with creampies.
If they say no then I move onto the next one.
There should be no doubt that PSE ALWAYS means condom-free.
Unfortunately alot of girls say whatever it takes to get the cash in their hand before giving you a long list of "don'ts".[/QUOTE]This is why I do not use jargon or euphemisms like PSE, GFE, etc, when pre-negotiating. I simply ask them if they will kiss with tongue and fuck without a condom. Leaves a lot less room for misunderstandings, or faux misunderstandings.
[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3952558]This is why I do not use jargon or euphemisms like PSE, GFE, etc, when pre-negotiating. I simply ask them if they will kiss with tongue and fuck without a condom. Leaves a lot less room for misunderstandings, or faux misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Where I am independents and agencies who advertise as PSE never offer BBFS.
[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;3952513]No. GFE usually means BBBJ, NOT BBFS. GFE has never been synonymous with BBFS here in California. PSE is BBFS by default. Which is why usually if PSE is offered, it's an addon or upsell. GFE is almost always included in the default rate.[/QUOTE]You pretty much said the same thing I said. GFE =/= BBFS, which is GFE "does not equal" BBFS.
Just an update to a post I posted before.
I saw finally saw Auraxoxo and MysticMyLove (I think she just quit).
Both offered BBFSCIP and MSOG. Auraxoxo was interesting. She originally quoted 1 hr for $400 then bidded herself down. I didn't even negotiate. Must've been a slow week for her.
MysticMyLove was pretty energetic and offered BBFS no CIP but with MSOG.
[QUOTE=Alphau;3947544]Does anyone know of one in OC. Fire Fox used to be the place before it closed years ago.[/QUOTE]I thought Fire Fox reopened? The place on Magnolia near Whitsett? It's called the Fox Fire Room now.
Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117
[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;3954918]Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117[/QUOTE]Does she have any drug problems? All her pics have her mouth closed and she's rather skinny.
[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;3954918]Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117[/QUOTE]Can you PM her number? I wrote to her on HX, but she hasn't responded.
[QUOTE=DonaldDraper;3955648]Can you PM her number? I wrote to her on HX, but she hasn't responded.[/QUOTE]Check your inbox. She's not GFE enough for me so not my flavour.
[QUOTE=MinorLeague;3952818]Agreed. Where I am independents and agencies who advertise as PSE never offer BBFS.[/QUOTE]PSE does not always mean BBFS. For many, PSE = GFE (BBBJ / DFK / DATY) + BLSWS / CIM / COF / CS + a generally more enthusiastic experience. Always good to clarify.
PSE used to mean BARE. A few provider start to bait and switch their menu and when John arrive, they said PSE doesn't mean bare and John start to accept that. If we keep excepting PSE doesn't mean bare. Next thing they advertise BBFS, John arrive and they said BBFS doesn't mean bare, it only mean their back are bare, no clothes on back.
[QUOTE=JakeDiver;3956075]PSE does not always mean BBFS. For many, PSE = GFE (BBBJ / DFK / DATY) + BLSWS / CIM / COF / CS + a generally more enthusiastic experience. Always good to clarify.[/QUOTE]
That PSE for many women does not equate to BBFS. Exchanging messages often times means that PSE to them is GFE but with deepthroat added to the mix or a BJ with added spit. There are a few that it does mean BBFS but does are few and far between in my experience when communicating.
[QUOTE=JakeDiver;3956075]PSE does not always mean BBFS. For many, PSE = GFE (BBBJ / DFK / DATY) + BLSWS / CIM / COF / CS + a generally more enthusiastic experience. Always good to clarify.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;3954918]Didn't expect much, saw her profile in the search feature on Hx and messaged her and she had no network. All she said was " 5 bbj go down on her and fuck her" met her at her incall in culver city. She's small petite and cute, A cup and nice ass, she's like the culver city version of SubAmy. On the the session. Sucks my cock which was nice, did 69 and she went on top no cover. She's very tight and told her to slow down, switch to doggy and I told her I can't hold it anymore and going to cum, she told to cum in her, I did, she goes and cleans herself out. $. 5 for bbj bbfscip is not bad, definitely will see her again.
https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/efc2117[/QUOTE]I don't get it, I contacted her on HX. We were communicating just fine, then it came time to book she changed her mind and stopped responding without any reason. Maybe she got spooked because too many mongers contacted her at once? I don't know. Was anyone else able to successfully book with her since JB's report? I hate providers that lack communication skills and professionalism. Wasted my time that I had scheduled and now left with blue balls after getting hyped for the last 48 hrs in anticipation. Frustrating!