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[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;5769136]Eyyo seriosly, why would someone want to bang asian granny with fake tits? There are plenty of them in any night club in Westminster that will do it for free.[/QUOTE]LOL! Where are these night clubs? Got some club names? I'd like to try some pickup lines on some GILFs.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;5769136]Eyyo seriosly, why would someone want to bang asian granny with fake tits? There are plenty of them in any night club in Westminster that will do it for free.[/QUOTE]Is it First Class massage? LOL you are talking about. Great grannies with big ol titties and nice asses.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;5767012]Hi can anyone tell me where is this Fair Dr place?[/QUOTE]Assuming he is talking about 440 Fair Dr. In Costa Mesa. It's like a open courtyard with a lot of AMPs there.
So this past Sunday I got the urge to go mongering, specifically for a Latina MP. Only experience with a LMP was Cozy Acupuncture, and while the service was ok and cheap, the provider wasn't really my type. Since I've seen a few posts on here talking about how Anaheim has a lot of talent, I decided to head there. I also use RM to supplement my research, although just the free version where you can't see any review details.
I headed out to Holistic Massage Spa, since there were pretty good reviews on this thread and the most recent RM review was posted 3 weeks ago, so I figured it was a go. When I get there the door is locked. I look inside the window and the place looks empty. RM said opened daily so I guess they are closed permanently. OK I'll go somewhere else. I head over to Brookhurst Acupuncture since there's a RM review posted 5 days ago and open daily, they have to be in business still right? Nope door is locked too, place looks completely empty from the tinted windows to Alright, third time's a charm so I go over to the place titled "Hot Latina Massage" on RM (have also seen it referred to as Passion Massage) located on 1807 Katella. The little courtyard in that place gave me ominous vibes for some reason. Door was locked and no one answered the door when I rang the bell. What the hell does RM have the wrong business hours and are all MPs closed Sundays usually? All the providers at church?
Disgruntled and blue balled, I give up and decide to head home. On the way back, I notice Star's Therapy on Glassell in Orange. I was always curious about this place so I made a stop. I was greeted by a young Mexican papasan. $50 for 30 min. The provider I got was Mia, light skin kinda thick Mexican with fake boobs and butt. Friendly and made small talk, English was ok. Massage was basically non existent LOL. She put some type of hot pad / heat compress (thing on my back, lightly massaged my upper back, and massaged my head for like a couple minutes. After that, she asks what I want, so I tell her FS. Didn't request a specific amount but I donated $120. She grinded on me with her panties on, then gave a CBJ. For the CFS we started in doggy, finished in missionary. Said she works Sundays. Would probably come back for Latina FS, but I could get a decent massage with FS at my ATF or other AMPs. Curious about the other talent here though.
Probably not going to go to Anaheim in the near future at least since I struck out so bad on my first three choices LOL. Was considering King's Acupuncture as a fourth option initially. Might check it out in the future but I'm mostly going to stick to Orange, SA, or CM.
[QUOTE=Ekali;5769473]So this past Sunday I got the urge to go mongering, specifically for a Latina MP. Only experience with a LMP was Cozy Acupuncture, and while the service was ok and cheap, the provider wasn't really my type. Since I've seen a few posts on here talking about how Anaheim has a lot of talent, I decided to head there. I also use RM to supplement my research, although just the free version where you can't see any review details.
I headed out to Holistic Massage Spa, since there were pretty good reviews on this thread and the most recent RM review was posted 3 weeks ago, so I figured it was a go. When I get there the door is locked. I look inside the window and the place looks empty. RM said opened daily so I guess they are closed permanently. OK I'll go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Hot Latina on Katella is a dump, don't bother. I went there a few years ago since they're open until around 4 am, but it's not worth it. Holistic in Anaheim was great and open for years, but they finally moved. New location is on 17th St in Santa Ana. I haven't been over to check it out, but it's supposedly all the same talent that were in Anaheim.
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[QUOTE=Steven007;5769160]This is a family owned business, there is no Jenny that works here, someone is just spamming our business. We have regular massages only. Please look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]All good, but I am curious why a legit MT business owner would participate in this forum. Sounds sus to me. Do you monger on the side?. Maybe you have some good insights to share?.
[QUOTE=Porkys1980;5769416]Is it First Class massage? LOL you are talking about. Great grannies with big ol titties and nice asses.[/QUOTE]Are you going to do a review on First Class Massage?
I found it using Google maps.
BTW welcome to the forum and I'll be waiting for your first review.
[QUOTE=Porkys1980;5769416]Is it First Class massage? LOL you are talking about. Great grannies with big ol titties and nice asses.[/QUOTE]Ok, I will come clean. What nobody will tell you, but I will. Is that F&C is short for Fungus and Crabs. Now you know the secret to dial into your decoder ring. The place is Chinese granny central. It gets way too much face time here on the board (yes, I am guilty too). What amazes me is that with all the posts here, the few times that I have visited Fungus and Crabs there has been either no traffic or just one other monger. These were all during what I would consider prime time. Maybe the GILFs have more leisure time than I expected. Lastly, if you truly want to get your F&C scout patch you need to experience Lucy (bb not required), Coco and two other random providers.
Visited the new FC in SA.
I believe the provider was Lulu.
Exactly what you wold expect.
I Started with BBFIV to test the waters. She wore a short dress with everything accessible.
She responded with BBT (Broke back tease) then the flip.
More teasing with some BBHJ and BBDFK with tits hanging out and some dirty talk. She was like the Asian version of the mom from the golden girls, it was sexy.
It seems like all was available.
Got the full service tune up for $.
Ask for Mary or Vicki, Mary only works Mon to Sat, 11 til 5 pm, make an appointment for sure. Older, but in the dark, it really didn't matter how she looked. LOL No FS but great handies here.
She has perfect body and perky tits. She lets your suck on her boobies while playfully giving a good 20 minute massage then the real fun begins. If you tip her $60 she lets you play with her flower down there. Just don't insert LOL. So she recommended Vicki, kinda of thicker Chinese girl, pretty face. Try to make an appointment, they are busy with walk ins. Not bad $40 for 30 minutes or $60 for the hour plus tipping them Mary doesn't ask for anything up front, neither does Vicky. Only other place I can think of near here is a spot off of lake forest and the 5 freeway, but I forgot the name.
[QUOTE=Ekali;5769462]Assuming he is talking about 440 Fair Dr. In Costa Mesa. It's like a open courtyard with a lot of AMPs there.[/QUOTE]Is 440 Fair still alive? I was there in December and it was completely dark. I scoped it out from the parking lot and didn't get out of my car. The place appeared to be 100% dead during the 15 minutes that I observed. I saw no one going in or out. What's the latest confirmed status? It was my understanding that all the businesses were either gone or in the process of being shut down. Such a pity. This used to be the promised land.
I see you have a violation. Speaking of violations going to have an ice cream sandwich right now. Oooooo yaaaaaa.
Used to be the spot with hot latinas, but talent has gone way downhill the last year. Covid messed it all up. Glad you got a pop. I use to get 2 pops every time.
[QUOTE=Ekali;5769473]So this past Sunday I got the urge to go mongering, specifically for a Latina MP. Only experience with a LMP was Cozy Acupuncture, and while the service was ok and cheap, the provider wasn't really my type. Since I've seen a few posts on here talking about how Anaheim has a lot of talent, I decided to head there. I also use RM to supplement my research, although just the free version where you can't see any review details.
I headed out to Holistic Massage Spa, since there were pretty good reviews on this thread and the most recent RM review was posted 3 weeks ago, so I figured it was a go. When I get there the door is locked. I look inside the window and the place looks empty. RM said opened daily so I guess they are closed permanently. OK I'll go somewhere else. I head over to Brookhurst Acupuncture since there's a RM review posted 5 days ago and open daily, they have to be in business still right? Nope door is locked too, place looks completely empty from the tinted windows to Alright, third time's a charm so I go over to the place titled "Hot Latina Massage" on RM (have also seen it referred to as Passion Massage) located on 1807 Katella. The little courtyard in that place gave me ominous vibes for some reason. Door was locked and no one answered the door when I rang the bell. What the hell does RM have the wrong business hours and are all MPs closed Sundays usually? All the providers at church?
Disgruntled and blue balled, I give up and decide to head home. On the way back, I notice Star's Therapy on Glassell in Orange. I was always curious about this place so I made a stop. I was greeted by a young Mexican papasan. $50 for 30 min. The provider I got was Mia, light skin kinda thick Mexican with fake boobs and butt. Friendly and made small talk, English was ok. Massage was basically non existent LOL. She put some type of hot pad / heat compress (thing on my back, lightly massaged my upper back, and massaged my head for like a couple minutes. After that, she asks what I want, so I tell her FS. Didn't request a specific amount but I donated $120. She grinded on me with her panties on, then gave a CBJ. For the CFS we started in doggy, finished in missionary. Said she works Sundays. Would probably come back for Latina FS, but I could get a decent massage with FS at my ATF or other AMPs. Curious about the other talent here though.
Probably not going to go to Anaheim in the near future at least since I struck out so bad on my first three choices LOL. Was considering King's Acupuncture as a fourth option initially. Might check it out in the future but I'm mostly going to stick to Orange, SA, or CM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HeartlessJay;5763182]Newbies don't just get handed the keys to the buffet. You must earn intel by first sharing intel. And good stuff, not just reruns from Bamboo. You're here, you must have monger info of your own. Let's hear some![/QUOTE]Lights aren't on in this AMP heaven but they are all open honey spa rose massage and sunny spa.
Don't go to white swan rude girls and took $60 from wallet wo asking.
[QUOTE=Porkys1980;5770599]Lights aren't on in this AMP heaven but they are all open honey spa rose massage and sunny spa.
Don't go to white swan rude girls and took $60 from wallet wo asking.[/QUOTE]Which one has nana with big ol titties?
Love these ones in Costa mesa.
Elegant Massage younger and hot ones working here. Make sure you call first they are always busy and fresh talent daily.
Magic spa / older ones but know what they do as a pro for sure.
Eden spa / cute older ones in their late 40's w big tots. Sure can ring a bell.
Worst AMP ones.
Total relax spa is more like total rip off. Gave a girl $60 for hand j and ended up with a twisted arm.
Tranquil Thai / the old Jojo has a nice figure but crappy attitude.
[QUOTE=Ekali;5769473]So this past Sunday I got the urge to go mongering, specifically for a Latina MP. Only experience with a LMP was Cozy Acupuncture, and while the service was ok and cheap, the provider wasn't really my type. Since I've seen a few posts on here talking about how Anaheim has a lot of talent, I decided to head there. I also use RM to supplement my research, although just the free version where you can't see any review details.
I headed out to Holistic Massage Spa, since there were pretty good reviews on this thread and the most recent RM review was posted 3 weeks ago, so I figured it was a go. When I get there the door is locked. I look inside the window and the place looks empty.[/QUOTE]For Cozy Acu ask to see the line up, the mamasan will do so. Usually might have to wait a bit but the girls will come in one by one.
For Brookhurst Acu you need to call / text them to let them know you are there. The girls are inside, but they lock the doors and will only open once you let them know you are there. Text / call before going and you're cool bro.
Try Rainbow Detox right down the street from both. King's Acu is pretty cool too.
[QUOTE=TheBagel;5756110]I went to Detox Spot in hopes of getting Cynthia based off prior reviews of her, but unfortunately she wasn't working that day.
So in walks in Cici, pretty Latina girl with big fake tits and ass. Started off with a back massage for like a minute then asked "you want everything? I say yes and we quickly got down to business.
Now I like Latina girls with big tits and ass, but this was a bit much for me because it didn't even feel good to grab, just felt hard and plastic.
40 house fee and 140 for the FS, so 180 total. Thinking I could've tried to negotiate 120 but whatever.
Still would like to go back and try Cynthia sometime. Any other monger experiences there with the other girls? Are they all like that?[/QUOTE]Just pulled CiCi the other night. It was my first stop at Detox. Not sure I'll go back, but the location is quite convenient for me. I negotiated CiCi to $. 20 for FS and what I got was a total rush job, complaining when I wanted to switch positions and not letting me really touch anything at all. Wasn't enjoying it, so I made her suck me to finish. A cute, shorter girl poked her head in by mistake before I left. Might go back and try my luck again, but not with CiCi. I was probably in and out of there in 18 min!
[QUOTE=Jpkhckwrth;5582889]What in the holy hell is going on with this?
[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]
There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.
The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.
Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.[/QUOTE]YES! I found this place about a year ago and the website, youtube channel, IG content. It all doesn't make any sense. I live near there and drive by all the time. I lurked it one time and saw 4 of the ladies pile out of a car in matching dresses with Starbucks drinks and go inside, like they were finishing a lunch break. Honestly, I'm stumped! I was so curious at one point that I just walked in and chatted up the girls for a minute or 2 like "so. Is this real?" They were super friendly and the one asian girl who does most of the talking was trying to get me to book right then. There was a cutie who must have been 19 who opened the door for me and escorted me down the hall to the front desk. I would absolutely love to fuck her. Without a doubt. But it just seems too good to be true. Do they really let you pay them to fuck and then leave? Or do they take your money and turn you into Soilent Green in a back room? I honestly don't know! I want it to be real. But I'm just not sure. Has anyone else been here?
[QUOTE=Caribe;5769388]LOL! Where are these night clubs? Got some club names? I'd like to try some pickup lines on some GILFs.[/QUOTE]I want to know too, please tell.
[QUOTE=Ocdtnb;5770880]YES! I found this place about a year ago and the website, youtube channel, IG content. It all doesn't make any sense. I live near there and drive by all the time. I lurked it one time and saw 4 of the ladies pile out of a car in matching dresses with Starbucks drinks and go inside, like they were finishing a lunch break. Honestly, I'm stumped! I was so curious at one point that I just walked in and chatted up the girls for a minute or 2 like "so. Is this real?" They were super friendly and the one asian girl who does most of the talking was trying to get me to book right then. There was a cutie who must have been 19 who opened the door for me and escorted me down the hall to the front desk. I would absolutely love to fuck her. Without a doubt. But it just seems too good to be true. Do they really let you pay them to fuck and then leave? Or do they take your money and turn you into Soilent Green in a back room? I honestly don't know! I want it to be real. But I'm just not sure. Has anyone else been here?[/QUOTE]Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible. So I don't know what exactly it is that they're doing. Maybe serving as a front to get people to buy MPs of not quite the same business model? If you know much about the AMP business, the unfortunate fact is the majority of it is a criminal enterprise with a kingpin located somewhere in Asia. The "owners" of the spas are just pawns, so when they get busted and thrown in jail the kingpin just recruits new owners and opens other shops elsewhere. I suspect this is what's going on here, except they've figured out a clever way to get the pawns to actually pay money to be pawns. Just a guess. That would make these shops huge loss leaders. They aren't making any money by running these two locations, but they more than make up for it with the other MPs they get people to open.
[QUOTE=RobbingHood;5767652]Any tips at LF 109? Thinking of going after work tomorrow but don't know who to ask for and what to expect. Any help would be appreciated! Tried 106 next door and wasn't too impressed. Not even close to what they call "nuru" massage.[/QUOTE]Text them and ask who is available that day; you want to see Carmila or Amanda (Carmila I think works just Fridays and Sundays). They are well-organized, and these girls are hot. They expect you to set the donation on the counter beforehand, depending on what you negotiate. Personally I am not a fan of Nuru, so I usually request full-nude HJ. Carmila takes her time teasing and GFing with you as she builds up tension.
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This is a long one but I'm pretty stoked on this. It's really hard to find a good femdom and when I heard a bomb blonde babe was doing it I was sold. Once Elle walked in I was absolutely floored. I'd heard she was beautiful from other reviews but god damn she is legitimately a model. 10/10 face with ridiculously deep blue eyes, 10/10 body she's in incredible shape, incredible D's, and a nice round beautiful butt to complement the rest of her figure. She asked if I'd done a domme sesh before, told her I haven't here and she asked what I'm into. She's very VERY good at taking control yet making you feel comfortable, and was respectful of my boundaries. Really friendly and kind and caring, but also able to command the room in an instant. It took us a second to find our groove as I'm not into the typical femdom stuff like humiliation / pain, more into the teasing aspect of it. She suggested a mix of nuru / domme session which ended up being ideal for me. The massage was great, she's actually good at it and hits the right spots and applies a great amount of pressure. On the flip oh my her smile / figure especially her D's is heaven. She tied my hands and dommed the hell out of me, most notably making me ask permission to talk and teasing and edging me. Incredible technique that got me finished real quick due to her eye contact and ridiculous looks. Would recommend Elle for a femdom session 1000 times over, it was more enjoyable than a few of my professional femdom sessions. Overall especially if you're into traditional femdom stuff, Elle is your domme no questions asked. As a nuru provider if you're into bomb blonde babes that seem genuinely very concerned with making sure you enjoy yourself, Elle is your provider. I think she said she's there Wednesday and Friday or Sundays. Wednesday for sure.
Anyone else notice the nuru rates have gone up. I see so many providers charging 180-200 for a half hour long session. Curious if anyone out there is paying that? At what amount do you say no more being that you can get FS for around the same. 180-200 seems pricey for a handjob. I don't care how hot you are.
[QUOTE=JerryX;5770755]Love these ones in Costa mesa.
Elegant Massage younger and hot ones working here. Make sure you call first they are always busy and fresh talent daily.
Magic spa / older ones but know what they do as a pro for sure.
Eden spa / cute older ones in their late 40's w big tots. Sure can ring a bell.
Worst AMP ones.
Total relax spa is more like total rip off. Gave a girl $60 for hand j and ended up with a twisted arm.
Tranquil Thai / the old Jojo has a nice figure but crappy attitude.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Been to a bunch in CM and never heard of these. Elegant looks pretty UTR but promising, will give it a shot.
Speaking only for myself, I would enjoy a good Nuru session more than most of the FS sessions (which tend to be a average) at that price point. LOL. Maybe I'm missing out on something. But, in the weeks after a good Nuru, you're quite possibly still thinking about it. And couldn't care less how the finish came about. Plus, most FS sessions aren't an hour at that price range.
As for the prices in general, they don't strike me (coming from the Midwest) as that bad for a Legit Nuru session. At many places that is the average cost for a sensual body massage (HJ ending) which IMO isn't as awesome as Nuru.
And to even have that option is amazing. Many places have zero Nuru options.
[QUOTE=MongerMan37;5771725]Anyone else notice the nuru rates have gone up. I see so many providers charging 180-200 for a half hour long session. Curious if anyone out there is paying that? At what amount do you say no more being that you can get FS for around the same. 180-200 seems pricey for a handjob. I don't care how hot you are.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerMan37;5771725]Anyone else notice the nuru rates have gone up. I see so many providers charging 180-200 for a half hour long session. Curious if anyone out there is paying that? At what amount do you say no more being that you can get FS for around the same. 180-200 seems pricey for a handjob. I don't care how hot you are.[/QUOTE]Most of the "Nuru" providers aren't really doing Nuru. They're just doing a little front and back oil rub and finishing with 2 minutes of body slide and a HJ. That's not really nuru. Real nuru involves the special seaweed based gel and a lot of slippery time with you and the provider on an air mattress, and it's worth every penny you pay for it. I don't really know of anyone in the area who's doing real nuru right now though. I
As the previous poster said, you can get FS for cheaper, but quite honestly I don't find most FS sessions that enjoyable. Even if it's with a hot girl, 90% of the time FS is just get you off as quickly as possible so she can get on to the next customer. There are exceptions of course, but I find a nice nuru with a hot girl and a great HJ release far more enjoyable. As with anything else, you have to find that special provider who satisfies your needs, but I'd much rather have a top notch HJ than a run of the mill lay any day. That may just be me in my old age though - priorities change over time.
How close is what they are doing at Palms to being "real" nuru? They advertise VIP with real nuru gel, but that doesn't guarantee it's good.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5771887]Most of the "Nuru" providers aren't really doing Nuru. They're just doing a little front and back oil rub and finishing with 2 minutes of body slide and a HJ. That's not really nuru. Real nuru involves the special seaweed based gel and a lot of slippery time with you and the provider on an air mattress, and it's worth every penny you pay for it. I don't really know of anyone in the area who's doing real nuru right now though. I
As the previous poster said, you can get FS for cheaper, but quite honestly I don't find most FS sessions that enjoyable. Even if it's with a hot girl, 90% of the time FS is just get you off as quickly as possible so she can get on to the next customer. There are exceptions of course, but I find a nice nuru with a hot girl and a great HJ release far more enjoyable. As with anything else, you have to find that special provider who satisfies your needs, but I'd much rather have a top notch HJ than a run of the mill lay any day. That may just be me in my old age though - priorities change over time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5771589]Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible..[/QUOTE]I find this absolutely fascinating. What's the angle and HTF exactly does this thing work? The guy in the pics looks like such a putz that he could be on of us. I want to figure this out, but the Nancy Drew in me doesn't want to end up in a dumpster with a Colombian necktie. This requires caution and the superior intellect of a lifelong monger that may actually need to take this seriously. Does anyone have any actual 411 on this? Not speculation, but real information? Thanks in advance. Meanwhile, I will consider how and if I shall pursue this further.
[QUOTE=MinnyMassage;5771971]How close is what they are doing at Palms to being "real" nuru? They advertise VIP with real nuru gel, but that doesn't guarantee it's good.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Palms, but the sister spa Havana charges extra for real nuru gel. That in itself isn't worth the cost as the service is very much the same. To get the full effect you need the air mattress setup. The only place I've ever had it was in Asia and it was quite messy, but tons of fun.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5771589]Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible. So I don't know what exactly it is that they're doing. Maybe serving as a front to get people to buy MPs of not quite the same business model? If you know much about the AMP business, the unfortunate fact is the majority of it is a criminal enterprise with a kingpin located somewhere in Asia. The "owners" of the spas are just pawns, so when they get busted and thrown in jail the kingpin just recruits new owners and opens other shops elsewhere..[/QUOTE]Who cares LOL move on. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
[QUOTE=JerryX;5770755]Love these ones in Costa mesa.
Elegant Massage younger and hot ones working here. Make sure you call first they are always busy and fresh talent daily.
Magic spa / older ones but know what they do as a pro for sure.
Eden spa / cute older ones in their late 40's w big tots. Sure can ring a bell.
Worst AMP ones.
Total relax spa is more like total rip off. Gave a girl $60 for hand j and ended up with a twisted arm.
Tranquil Thai / the old Jojo has a nice figure but crappy attitude.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jerryx. I went to Elegant Massage in CM. Apple was hot young one there! Thanks for the heads up.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5771589]Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible. So I don't know what exactly it is that they're doing. Maybe serving as a front to get people to buy MPs of not quite the same business model? If you know much about the AMP business, the unfortunate fact is the majority of it is a criminal enterprise with a kingpin located somewhere in Asia. The "owners" of the spas are just pawns, so when they get busted and thrown in jail the kingpin just recruits new owners and opens other shops elsewhere. I suspect this is what's going on here, except they've figured out a clever way to get the pawns to actually pay money to be pawns. Just a guess. That would make these shops huge loss leaders. They aren't making any money by running these two locations, but they more than make up for it with the other MPs they get people to open.[/QUOTE]
I went there 5 or 6 years back. 19 or 20 year old hottie with a plaid shirt tied around her DDs (what they called a uniform). Had a sexy 30 minute massage for two Andrew Jacksons. With 3 minutes left she said she can do a BBBJ for $. Nope, I'm not the Flash, so I declined. On the to do list, but now yeah $$ to get in the door, I'm not paying for her DDs. I walked in once last year to verify the door fee. Viet hottie in the adds and videos was there, probably shopping for shoes on her iPad. Yes, it is $$. That's like 3 hours at Bamboo, 2 trips to Lucy, 2 Disneyland tickets, FS anywhere else with a steak dinner afterwards. Probably $$$ laundering for some gang. I still would like to find out what's behind the red panties, I mean curtain. Anybody have an extra $$ for 'R&D purposes?
[QUOTE=SaltyDog;5769791]Are you going to do a review on First Class Massage?
I found it using Google maps.
BTW welcome to the forum and I'll be waiting for your first review.[/QUOTE]FC and F& C are two different places.
Lucy is at Reflexology behind the Fish and chips lol.
[QUOTE=UncleLumpyLap;5770046]Visited the new FC in SA.
I believe the provider was Lulu.
Exactly what you wold expect.
I Started with BBFIV to test the waters. She wore a short dress with everything accessible.
She responded with BBT (Broke back tease) then the flip.
More teasing with some BBHJ and BBDFK with tits hanging out and some dirty talk. She was like the Asian version of the mom from the golden girls, it was sexy.
It seems like all was available.
Got the full service tune up for $.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you were at the same place That I went to. This place was on Harbor and w 1st street.
There's a metro PCs next to it in a busy strip mall. Walked in there were like 5 grannies. And I asked for Lulu. Hoping for a good BJ and FS. None just a regular handy by another younger Lulu with kinda dark blonde hair, Chinese girl in her late 30's. B cups nothing special and nothing excited. Paid $40 for the house and $60 for tips and barely got to suck her titties. Waste of time.
House rate.
$30 45 minutes.
$40 60 minutes.
Short staffed. 60 minutes to 40 minutes.
Standard tip in play asked. 1.
FC standard play?
[QUOTE=Porkys1980;5772207]FC and F& C are two different places.
Lucy is at Reflexology behind the Fish and chips lol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CalTheImpaler;5771983]I find this absolutely fascinating. What's the angle and HTF exactly does this thing work? The guy in the pics looks like such a putz that he could be on of us. I want to figure this out, but the Nancy Drew in me doesn't want to end up in a dumpster with a Colombian necktie. This requires caution and the superior intellect of a lifelong monger that may actually need to take this seriously. Does anyone have any actual 411 on this? Not speculation, but real information? Thanks in advance. Meanwhile, I will consider how and if I shall pursue this further.[/QUOTE]I used to go there up until 3-4 years ago and stopped going when the girls I would see there moved on. Used to be a door fee of 50/60/70 for 30,45,60 minutes and it was mainly a HJ with some YMMV place. The girls always would ask for more than the going rate as well. I do know they also would get deadbeats enough times where they got stiffed on tips or the guys wouldn't tip as promised. So my educated guess is they are wanting to get all the money up front by charging the higher door fee with no tip needed to guarantee the girls get paid well regardless of who comes in. The owner has always been able to get younger girls to work there, but also gives the impression all of them are young, which isn't the case. There's always one or two (sometimes more) that aren't younger.
I personally wouldn't go there with the new rates, as it's quite a bit more than I ever spent when I used to go there. I also doubt anything has changed from how they operate from a massage and HJ / YMMV perspective either.
For anyone who wants to try it, just ask if they will give you a discount on the door fee. Worst that will happen is they say no.
[QUOTE=MongerMan37;5771725]Anyone else notice the nuru rates have gone up. I see so many providers charging 180-200 for a half hour long session. Curious if anyone out there is paying that? At what amount do you say no more being that you can get FS for around the same. 180-200 seems pricey for a handjob. I don't care how hot you are.[/QUOTE]I notice its typically 100/30, 120/45, and 140/60 and most are cool with that, I honestly can't blame them for trying to get some extra cash I do the same thing in my line of work, especially when some people will just agree and pay it not wanting to kill the vibe. I like the spots have standardized tipping rates set, off the top of my head Serenity in Lake Forest, Villa in Westminster, Palms in Orange and Havana in Downey are all 100/120/140 for nuru.
[QUOTE=Ocdtnb;5770880]YES! I found this place about a year ago and the website, youtube channel, IG content. It all doesn't make any sense. I live near there and drive by all the time. I lurked it one time and saw 4 of the ladies pile out of a car in matching dresses with Starbucks drinks and go inside, like they were finishing a lunch break. Honestly, I'm stumped! I was so curious at one point that I just walked in and chatted up the girls for a minute or 2 like "so. Is this real?" They were super friendly and the one asian girl who does most of the talking was trying to get me to book right then. There was a cutie who must have been 19 who opened the door for me and escorted me down the hall to the front desk. I would absolutely love to fuck her. Without a doubt. But it just seems too good to be true. Do they really let you pay them to fuck and then leave? Or do they take your money and turn you into Soilent Green in a back room? I honestly don't know! I want it to be real. But I'm just not sure. Has anyone else been here?[/QUOTE]I've gotten a massage there. The massage was actually pretty good, but not justified by the price though. For anything extra it was north of 3 $. A young hot one can command that price. But an older bird in her 40's? Nope.