Sugar Daddy Sites

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7168256]Who goes onto a sugar site looking for escorts? Pretty much none of us do. We don't treat the girls like that. But it would be delusional to not technically see the transaction of giving a woman cash for sex. Not being technically prostitution. Because it is. Especially when a girl becomes a career sugarbaby. I see them now as part-time prostitutes. I don't TREAT them that way. But I do SEE them that way. There's a difference. I don't even bother messaging career sugarbabies. I only go for first time sugarbabies. And preferably finding them as a non-pro. Over finding them as a sugarbaby.

Where to find a hot girl that's not needing explicitly an arrangement for sex? I've said it myself many times. Dating sites, social media, public pickup game, bars, clubs, etc. And alot will fuck. Just because they want to fuck. Don't even need to take them for drinks, dinner or anything.

When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.

I've said all these things and more. No need to school me on the game.[/QUOTE]Right. Just because a girl does not extend her hand for payment literally every time she opens her legs does not mean she's not doing it largely for the money. It doesn't mean she gets zero benefit besides money. Obviously many SBs also enjoy their time with their SD. But there's a difference between something being sufficient and something being necessary.

Sometimes you go to a restaurant where you're a regular and they give you a free dessert or comp your meal. It doesn't mean you no longer have to pay anymore.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7126336]NEW ON SEEKING. Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.[/QUOTE]Here's the MIT-trained pimp himself explaining this process using his mail order bride as some kind of visual prop LOL.

[URL=https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fguysp8q2072bxpqh9g7e/ADBOYUNK1k4UBSIzn2QNWDE?rlkey=ox7ay3xqt2z1p0udu05hdl2dm&st=iolis20c&dl=0]Seeking verification video[/URL]

[QUOTE=TopGun9;7168068]No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?[/QUOTE]Since FOSTA was passed back in 2018, a lot of sites pushed back against sex work apps. For example, lots of Hx guys posted they were no longer getting emails from the site at their Yahoo mail. Admin even warned members to switch over to a different mail provider. Not sure about GM or Proton. I have never used any of these for my throw away email addy.

I joined all the sugar apps back in 2016 and created multiple redundant accounts using different servers from your list above and I never had any problems or blowbacks. Consider joining SDM they been around since 2007. They may have a bit more relaxed rules. Here are my current 3 SB's from SDM.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7165771]Same here. And it has been this way a while. I put in a help request on this topic this week. I don't recall all their practices, perhaps they don't send an acknowledging email, but I didn't get one. That might be another bug.

I wondered if it might be browser related. Currently I use Brave on a Mac, people using different browsers might have different experience. Oh, and then there is the mobile app. I don't want to burden my burner, so I don't even have that installed. I have tried Safari at times, I thought it was even worse for the problem where you click a profile in a list and get that PNA page.[/QUOTE]I did finally get a CS response, the typical Pablum. Restart the browser, clear the cache. No acknowledgement that their site was buggy as it clearly is.

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;7168868]Here's the MIT-trained pimp himself explaining this process using his mail order bride as some kind of visual prop LOL.

[URL=https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/fguysp8q2072bxpqh9g7e/ADBOYUNK1k4UBSIzn2QNWDE?rlkey=ox7ay3xqt2z1p0udu05hdl2dm&st=iolis20c&dl=0]Seeking verification video[/URL][/QUOTE]Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership. I have shifted to [URL]SugarDaddyMeet.com[/URL] and [URL]SugarLifeNow.com[/URL] and have been having some success. Will try and do some posts soon.

[QUOTE=Murrican;7167387]I mean you do you. As you will of course. To each his own.

But I stand by what I said. You exact revenge on enough girls and one day one of them is going to escalate in a way you can't undo. A rape allegation. A dox. Something. You have more to lose than they do in most cases. And they know that. I hope it doesn't happen to you. But you're playing with fire.[/QUOTE]I appreciate all of your input, thank you, but lets hope I don't get burned any time soon.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7168256]I see them now as part-time prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Is that like being almost pregnant? Haha I see them as prostitutes who more closely screen their tricks and have a sliding scale on pricing.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7168256]When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.[/QUOTE]The biggest "cost" for me of having a GF / wife, by far, is the cost of my time and energy. That's the real cost. Shit tests, aggravation, less sleep, drama, bullshit, nagging, no hobbies, no peace. Fuck, the cash cost is what I gladly pay to be free from all of that. I'll have a pleasant 30 min-2 hr time with them, have great sex and then leave and never look back. It's the cost of FREEDOM baby, and I'm paying it. Everybody thinks pimps are cool and johns are lame, but I think pimps are chumps. They willingly take on all of the bullshit and drama from not one but multiple women. Imagine the bullshit they have to deal with day in and day out with some of these braindead hoes. You couldn't pay me.

Also, more on point of the thread I just canceled a date with a "part time prostitute" on Seeking because she turned out to be. . . Full time. Haha We had it set up for this afternoon by text, I told her I'd text when I got home from work and was settled in, but about an hour later she starts blowing up my phone saying she's ready. Oh OK, I didn't realize we were working on your timetable. Then 30 min later she called and we had a quick convo, I told her to be patient, was very cordial. 30 min later, another call that I ignored (I was busy). I texted her that she seemed a little rushed and was she going to be able to chill and hang out (we'd discussed drinks) or was she in a hurry today? This triggered her ghettoness and I got a response saying I was delusional or something like that, and that she knows I was just trying to "trick her into staying longer" (professional ho with an hourly mindset) and that she gets paid "thousands of dollars" for that and I thought I was getting special treatment "just because I found you on Seeking. " I wished her the best, blocked and moved on. Definitely a pro and all I had to do was lightly scratch the veneer to find out. She was young too! Crazy. I may start looking for younger girls in the midwest to fly in. Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7169504]Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.[/QUOTE]Coming from a guy on the other coast, AMEN, brother!

[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;7169371]Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership. I have shifted to [URL]SugarDaddyMeet.com[/URL] and [URL]SugarLifeNow.com[/URL] and have been having some success. Will try and do some posts soon.[/QUOTE]Agreed!

Seeking is like PornHub after they banned all the real amateur stuffs.

I too had most recent successes on SDM. I'll be giving SLN a try.

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7169504]Is that like being almost pregnant? Haha I see them as prostitutes who more closely screen their tricks and have a sliding scale on pricing.

Also, more on point of the thread I just canceled a date with a "part time prostitute" on Seeking because she turned out to be. . . Full time. Haha We had it set up for this afternoon by text, I told her I'd text when I got home from work and was settled in, but about an hour later she starts blowing up my phone saying she's ready. Oh OK, I didn't realize we were working on your timetable. Then 30 min later she called and we had a quick convo, I told her to be patient, was very cordial. 30 min later, another call that I ignored (I was busy). I texted her that she seemed a little rushed and was she going to be able to chill and hang out (we'd discussed drinks) or was she in a hurry today? This triggered her ghettoness and I got a response saying I was delusional or something like that, and that she knows I was just trying to "trick her into staying longer" (professional ho with an hourly mindset) and that she gets paid "thousands of dollars" for that and I thought I was getting special treatment "just because I found you on Seeking. " I wished her the best, blocked and moved on. Definitely a pro and all I had to do was lightly scratch the veneer to find out. She was young too! Crazy. I may start looking for younger girls in the midwest to fly in. Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.[/QUOTE]Cmon man you should know. I call them part time prostitutes because they usually have a regular job. And the sugaring is a side gig or part time. But when they're career sugarbabies that keep coming back or have been on the site for years. I see them as part-time prostitutes.

And yes there are real full on traditional prostitutes trying to pass themselves off as sugarbabies on sugar sites. One thing I always recommend is to do a face image search using an online tool like Pimeyes. And a reverse phone number search. Pimeyes is better than FacecheckID at finding if a girl has escort ads on the web and if they might have done some porn. Facecheck is good at finding social media and job sites like Linked in. The reverse phone search will bring up any escort ads under that number if they exist. Always research / vet these girls.

The best priced girls I've found as sugarbabies and nonpros have mostly been out of LA. Out in the IE area and OC for cheap hot White girls. I've also had many affordable Asian chics in the OC. I've been lucky to find some good girls in LA as well. But LA girls can be a bit boujie and their expectations. I have a couple girls I currently have in each area. The cheapest girls I've tapped have been in the Apple Valley area. If you're willing to drive up to them.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7170200]The cheapest girls I've tapped have been in the Apple Valley area. If you're willing to drive up to them.[/QUOTE]We're simpatico, vato. We both know sugar babies are prostitutes, whether part-time, beginner, or in denial about it.

Where did you find the Apple Valley girls, on Seeking? I like more blue collar white girls they are definitely more fun and down to earth than the urban SJW nose ring crowd.

[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7170227]We're simpatico, vato. We both know sugar babies are prostitutes, whether part-time, beginner, or in denial about it.

Where did you find the Apple Valley girls, on Seeking? I like more blue collar white girls they are definitely more fun and down to earth than the urban SJW nose ring crowd.[/QUOTE]

lol It's the best when they're in denial of it. That's when I've usually gotten an arrangement at the lowest price.

You have to expand your mile radius search to include those far away areas. Or you could just find a zip code in Apple Valley and do a search based on that zip code. There's not always a girl available there. But over the years I've had some there. Usually cute / hot White girls and cute Latinas. Some have been willing to drive down and at least meet halfway around San Bernandino. Victorville usually has a lot of willing girls too.

[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;7169371]Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership.[/QUOTE]Nah. Brandon banned your ass. You been trying to get back in without success. But you can't. So the oh so obvious predictable next move is to throw shade at the app. This is a typical and usual tired old playbook of disgruntled mongers here.

I make fun of Brandon all the time but some of us are still active members. Not banned.

[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;7169371] I have shifted to SugarDaddyMeet.com [/QUOTE]See my post about SDM below. I have receipts. I always have receipts. Probably one of the few rare posters in this site of almost 800 K members. I talk the talk. But I also walk the walk.

China Girl 27.

[QUOTE=UnknownSD;7132877]Here's a China girl for you guys. She's visiting LA and is currently staying at the 1 Hotel in WEHO. She's doing incall for 1200 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d59a77ad-6018-4b1a-b854-77372e57554b[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL some Chinese chick pushing 30 still calls herself a "baby" and wants 1200 bucks for what sounds like boring germaphobic all condom FC date. Worse, no tits, no hips, and no curves. If she even responds to you on SA. How much time are you going to waste messaging back and forth? 3-4 weeks? Months?

Banged this 18 yo Chinese girl below for $300 GFE in OC. The Japanese girl is 19 and $300 for GFE and 100-200 to upgrade into raw fucking in LA. All it took was 2-3 messages on Hx plus a few texts on my way to the incall. Real 18-19 girls with much better body than this SB above. Literally within an hour of sending the DM on the app and I am knocking on the hotel door and her panties are on the floor. Message at 5 pm and creampie finish just before 7 pm. Now that's how you get your dick wet!

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;7170288]China Girl 27.

LOL some Chinese chick pushing 30 still calls herself a "baby" and wants 1200 bucks for what sounds like boring germaphobic all condom FC date. Worse, no tits, no hips, and no curves. If she even responds to you on SA. How much time are you going to waste messaging back and forth? 3-4 weeks? Months?

Banged this 18 yo Chinese girl below for $300 GFE in OC. The Japanese girl is 19 and $300 for GFE and 100-200 to upgrade into raw fucking in LA. All it took was 2-3 messages on Hx plus a few texts on my way to the incall. Real 18-19 girls with much better body than this SB above. Literally within an hour of sending the DM on the app and I am knocking on the hotel door and her panties are on the floor. Message at 5 pm and creampie finish just before 7 pm. Now that's how you get your dick wet![/QUOTE]Thought you always said you don't fuck Asian chics?

Having a better body is subjective. I think the 27 year old baby has the better body. It's a toned sexy fit body. But I'm not dropping 1200 on any girl. Plus Asian chics aren't really known as having curvy bodies in the first place. Some may have a cute small ass which I dig. But usually bee stings for tits. LOL.

Most guys in this thread are aware of HX. But myself and others choose not to participate. Usually because we don't want to deal with high volume ho's getting dicked down many times on the daily. Especially if they offer raw easily. Much higher risk of stds. Bit less of a risk std wise fucking a sugarbaby or nonpro. That are usually much less volume with how many guys they're fucking.