Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444671]Not saying its not a smart business approach and not neglecting they haven't been burned by clients despite agency or reg AMPs. My point is in this hobby, counting donations may not seem to be a biggie to some, but it CAN be a turn off and mood dinger depending on the client and may rub the person the wrong way. And not to mention, the girls themselves can rip / burn us off too; I've seen girls ripping clients off by secretly taking a tiny bit off and claimed its not enough after they just went to handle the donation upfront, but we realized its too late after session is over. Speaking of fairness here.[/QUOTE]There is a degree of trust needed in this hobby from both sides. I agree counting cash, negotiating BBFS, etc. Are mood killers. The trust but verify approach is appropriate here. Agencies verify through their screening. We verify indirectly via monger reviews and posts. There are of course more adventurous mongers who like the thrill and risks of trying out new locations etc.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444674]Good stuff, this will make competition and demanding game higher for us among them LOL. Nice choice jedi LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe in getting even but doing no harm because it is their livelihood. I visited her friend 3 times in one week LOL.

What do you guys think is the best AMP this year? For me it was always NYAW but of course things have changed.

[QUOTE=AttackMaster1;6444738]What do you guys think is the best AMP this year? For me it was always NYAW but of course things have changed.[/QUOTE]I'm fully on the J-girl train so I'm going to have to give a nod to NYCSE since they've been getting the largest supply of talent from there!

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444207]It seems like more girls regardless of Chinese, japanese, and korean are leaning towards counting green sheets in front of clients more commonly than before; I think the difference in manners and class are going downhill from inflation and GPS nomenclature. Yume was the only jap chick at ppc that attempted to offer me freebie cas I was helping with her school homework before LOL. But haven't seen her since she widely opened up greeks despite upcharge or none. She's actually a lot on the older spectrum at least mid 30's.[/QUOTE]When I saw her she was going free bbfscip and anal. I took the anal. She is older and the only thing that bothered me really was how lazy she was in the shower as she basically handing me the hose thing to wash myself.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444671]Not saying its not a smart business approach and not neglecting they haven't been burned by clients despite agency or reg AMPs. My point is in this hobby, counting donations may not seem to be a biggie to some, but it CAN be a turn off and mood dinger depending on the client and may rub the person the wrong way. And not to mention, the girls themselves can rip / burn us off too; I've seen girls ripping clients off by secretly taking a tiny bit off and claimed its not enough after they just went to handle the donation upfront, but we realized its too late after session is over. Speaking of fairness here.[/QUOTE]Plenty of girls get ripped off. Shit, I accidentally walked out forgetting to pay a girl and had to come back before. I like to get the money done with first thing. Sometimes I hold the tip until the end. Any upgrades with j girls I for sure want that paid up front first.

I don't see why to give a crap about a girl wanting the money upfront as this is business no matter if it is first or last.

Kawano left WSD because customers were shorting her for upgrades.

[QUOTE=Temuchin;6444238]It's hard to imagine Emily being a greedy *****. I haven't been able to land a session with her yet but I think she's the sweetest mms out there. .[/QUOTE]When Emily first started working back at CCP I didn't like her at all. I didn't think she was hot at all. Now she is my favorite mms and the only one I trust. She is also hot as hell and love those tits. If a girl is hot or not or has good or bad service she will tell me and she hasn't been wrong yet. She never recommends me a girl as I like a wide variety of girls so I don't really have a type but I do have a favorite type. Helen / Kylie / Sia is my favorite type but then again I will go bag the F out of some big assed Latinas and slim nice bootied early 20's Japanese girls. And then any hot east Asian spinner.

Anytime Emily has tried to steer me away from a girl and I took her it was not good. And if I have a complaint I always complain to her. She was like, I tried to help you.

P.S. I don't think you are even landing a session with Emily. Me neither although I try every time I see her.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444224]I was told by primary source the providers from shops often times go into turmoils and conflicts with the booker / management team so they couldn't settle their scores and girls end up job-hopping. A lot of bookers are actually very greedy and sometimes bullies the providers cas they know the girls make crazy amounts and booker commissions are nickels and dimes.[/QUOTE]I've heard from places that are no longer open that 1) one mms would ask to borrow her girls money so she could go gamble. 2) one mms that used to have girls give her money to recommend customers to them.

[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6444769]When I saw her she was going free bbfscip and anal. I took the anal. She is older and the only thing that bothered me really was how lazy she was in the shower as she basically handing me the hose thing to wash myself. [/QUOTE]I got so used to Chinese and Korean service with kissing and helping you on off with clothes, shower, etc. And then I visited Yume Hanabi. WTF. None of those little extras that set the mood. Very transactional.

[QUOTE=JediNY;6444232]Counting cash in front of a client is the smartest business approach so there is no disagreement re any shortage especially if you are new. I am sure the girls have been burned by clients before.[/QUOTE]One time I had session at a joint that always be charging 340. I had cash counted out with a paper clip and handed over. She didn't count. After the fuck I leave I get call from management to say that gal was 350. Come back and pay the 10. Shit. I did but only cas I want to fuck there again. Greedy. They only into green, period and try to squeeze ever dime.

[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6444769]
I don't see why to give a crap about a girl wanting the money upfront as this is business no matter if it is first or last.
[/QUOTE]Outside example for instance, if you first visit new restaurants or heck even old restaurants whether as regulars or not, as long as you don't dress like a half naked or broken trousers, do you pay in advance for the meals or call for the checks from the waiter / waitress along with tipping either cash / card with autograph after the meal session? What if the owner of the restaurant demands donation upfront without giving you the full menu of the cuisine course? Are you still interested in staying in the restaurant especially with varied attitude / tone while asking for donations upfront besides the tip? Not every client cares about donation upfront, but MAJORITY will whether they're wealthy or not. YES, its developing trust as Jedi mentioned for both sides, but don't forget WE are the one patronizing, with BOTH time and money aka consumer rights. And as mentioned, we already verified, if they can't trust clients with donations, then they should prob weed out certain clients with negative track records.

What a night at NYAF!!

I texted in advance and setup a double with Helen, an unusual double!! I originally had Victoria H in mind but the schedule wasn't working.

Back story: a few weeks ago I was caught by my gf and it was time to come clean anyway because there was no way I could deny it, it was right there. Tip: don't use iCloud to sync your devices and especially text!!

Anyway, we had a honest discussion about my mongering habits and I must say that it was refreshing to finally spill the beans and whatever happens, happens. She was intrigued and hurt at the same time and she said for me to take her next time I feel the urge for something "new and open minded". I made the appointment last night and after some drinks we headed over to NYAF for dessert. In the menu, Helen. The only open minded hottie I could think of to make this happen in a healthy way for my gf to understand the difference between vanilla gf sex and Helen's GFE service, the intention was to open her mind to possibilities not to shame her in any way.

I don't know if the mms really understood the reason when I initially made the appointment but she set it up and said it was more common than everyone thinks, I paid half the session in advance on a Cc and the rest infront of my gf telling her they are giving me a discount because you're my GF. (LOL).

Mms didn't do a cock grab and was very professional about letting us in offering water and a snack also complimented me on a very pretty GF, walked us to the big room and making sure we're comfortable. I was extremely nervous and that helped a lot. My gf was on the verge of a panic attack, we took a hit and I assured her it will be fine and she can stop at any point and we go home she said no we're here and we're doing this. "I want to see it!

Helen knocks and OMFG she looked hotter that I could ever imagine just perfect Asian fuck doll type. She slowly walked in, said hello put her supplies on my lap and went in for dfk on my gf. I was floored. That was the best ice breaker ever, Helen is a genius. I got hard in no time then Helen turned to me and told me I was a good boy for bringing her such a pretty girl and dfk me as my GF watched saying "I know what you like, bad boy" you had to see my GF face she was stoned, shocked and fascinated all at once.

Helen offers a shower and I said yes as long as it was ready for us now and we're all together, she said "of course baby, but girls go first 5 minutes" and asked my gf to help her undress, when my gf saw her body I know she got wet I could feel it.

I kiss my gf and they head over to the shower. Mms walks in and sits with me for a bit chatting and finally the cock grab almost wanting to blow me just to make me hard again. After a few minutes she walks me over to the shower and I couldn't believe my eyes, my gf on the table and Helen doing nuru on her with her ass up in the air, I wish I could get a pic of that. I reached over and grabbed Helen's ass looking at my gf. Helen got off washed me as my gf watched and then sucked me off right there. I can't describe what that felt like, looking at my gf then looking down seeing Helen and my cock all the way in her mouth, even more, I can't imagine what it felt for my gf to see that. As I was fucking Helen's face my gf started playing with her self so helen stopped got up in the table, sat on my gf's face and spread her legs inviting me to eat out my gf.

I heard stories of My gf in college with girl on girl, who didn't? But this was something else. To actually seeing it was insane. My gf seemed to enjoy the attention but couldn't cum in the shower. Helen told us to go to the room with the mms and she'll be right there so we quickly wrapped it up and were escorted back to the room with mms.

I asked my gf if she was ok and if she wanted to stop and her answer was in the form of intense dfk and asked now what? I said that I normally sit on the edge of the bed for bbj, so I sat on the edge and she blew me asking me like this? Yes baby, just like that!! Helen walked in on that and hopped on the bed behind me kissing my neck and playing with my nipples then my gf grabbed her hand and pulled her down for one unforgettable double bbj as they dfk on my throbbing cock I drop my head back and just enjoy the moment. Helen climbed up me and sat on my face (she's facing the mirror) and my gf kept blowing me till Helen got really hot and her moans got louder then my gf sat on my cock and started riding me hard holding on the Helen's ass and hips, then Helen turned around and the faces eachother my gf in my cock Helen on my face, this went on till my gf came first and Helen leaked her sweet nectar on my face telling my gf, "now, kiss this bad boy".

I was so excited I was ready to fuck Helen but When I reached for the rubber to fuck Helen, my gf politely gestured me NO! By putting her hand on mine nodding no, whispering she's not ready for that. I got the point and ordered the two girls to bbj me. With only a few min left I look at the clock and Helen said not to worry since we were the only ones here and it was closing time and her last appointment. I lay back on the table and they bbj me just the way I like it. Slow and deep, looking at them was surreal. Helen grabbed a cover and slipped it on my gf finger and directed her to fuck my ass, she looked at me for and ok but I didn't care. With Helen's hand guiding my gf while they both blow me, I popped in two minutes and they didn't stop till I was pushing them away because I got too sensitive and drained.

After a few minutes Helen left the room and we were left alone for a bit just saying OMG to eachother. She asked if I liked it and I said of course, when I asked her the same she said it wasn't what she expected, it felt overwhelming but she said she had a positive experience but asked me to give her time to process.

Mms came in asking if we're coming back tomorrow. Funny girl!! I tipped her too and my gf tipped Helen we all hugged and we left.

What's next, I don't know. I guess we'll discuss it in detail when she wakes up or this weekend.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444866]Outside example for instance, if you first visit new restaurants or heck even old restaurants whether as regulars or not, as long as you don't dress like a half naked or broken trousers, do you pay in advance for the meals or call for the checks from the waiter / waitress along with tipping either cash / card with autograph after the meal session? What if the owner of the restaurant demands donation upfront without giving you the full menu of the cuisine course? Are you still interested in staying in the restaurant especially with varied attitude / tone while asking for donations upfront besides the tip? Not every client cares about donation upfront, but MAJORITY will whether they're wealthy or not. YES, its developing trust as Jedi mentioned for both sides, but don't forget WE are the one patronizing, with BOTH time and money aka consumer rights. And as mentioned, we already verified, if they can't trust clients with donations, then they should prob weed out certain clients with negative track records.[/QUOTE]The problem with the restaurant example is that if patrons don't pay. You call the cops. The girls cannot call the cops. The best they can do is ban the monger. For the monger, paying upfront esp BBFS upgrade may be a good idea. It avoids miscommunication if you negotiate a price. A monger once wrote they agreed to a price. The girl differred. MMS banned the monger. One more reason for pay upfront. In the unlikely event the place gets robbed, you alrerady paid. I heard SL got robbed not too long ago.

First off thanks again to this thread for turning me onto this place. Very excited to try these 001's which I was able to find today. Now, after you all told me about Teso Life I googled it to see exactly where it was in K-town. My google search returned 2 locations, the one you all have discussed but also another one on St. Mark's place in East Village. Much more convenient for me and so I decided to check it out before trying K-town.

Off topic but this store has so many cool products. Unusual Japanese snacks and sweets and I wound up getting a bunch of these too, LOL. Anyway I can confirm the Teso Life St Mark's has the 001 condoms. Standard, 'rich lube', and size L. I opted for standard since I am pretty average in size. They're found a couple rows into the store and honestly I can't identify the other stuff in the aisle they're in. It's a small store but everything is in Japanese which I don't speak so it all kind of blends for me. I asked a store employee where condoms were, and after first thinking I was asking for gum and then clarifying, they were very courteous and walked me right to where the 001's.

Now I have to test them out. Deciding who to go see!

[QUOTE=Temuchin;6444238]It's hard to imagine Emily being a greedy *****. I haven't been able to land a session with her yet but I think she's the sweetest mms out there. From what I heard, Chanel and her sister left because they didn't want to work through the shower situation at SL. I heard that before the next annual spa wars begin again, the owners are trying to get every inch of plumbing and electricals legal and up to code.[/QUOTE]Good luck with getting a session with Emily, I think whoever does their game is on point. The closest I've ever gotten was she let me feel her up and kiss her neck while she rubbed her ass against my hard on with my pants on still. She probably could've made me nut in my pants that day.

[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6444982]Good luck with getting a session with Emily, I think whoever does their game is on point. The closest I've ever gotten was she let me feel her up and kiss her neck while she rubbed her ass against my hard on with my pants on still. She probably could've made me nut in my pants that day.[/QUOTE]Beautful naked women waiting to be fucked and we want what we can't have, I. E. , Emily LOL.

[QUOTE=AttackMaster1;6444738]What do you guys think is the best AMP this year? For me it was always NYAW but of course things have changed.[/QUOTE]DDY, 1010, WSD, KG, and MG for me. Now NYAF does have my ATF Helen who I see a couple times a month.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6444866]Outside example for instance, if you first visit new restaurants or heck even old restaurants whether as regulars or not, as long as you don't dress like a half naked or broken trousers, do you pay in advance for the meals or call for the checks from the waiter / waitress along with tipping either cash / card with autograph after the meal session? What if the owner of the restaurant demands donation upfront without giving you the full menu of the cuisine course? Are you still interested in staying in the restaurant especially with varied attitude / tone while asking for donations upfront besides the tip? Not every client cares about donation upfront, but MAJORITY will whether they're wealthy or not. YES, its developing trust as Jedi mentioned for both sides, but don't forget WE are the one patronizing, with BOTH time and money aka consumer rights. And as mentioned, we already verified, if they can't trust clients with donations, then they should prob weed out certain clients with negative track records.[/QUOTE]Thing with AMPs is you can get your money back. Say if I take a shower and come back to the room and am like. No. I pay like 20-40 just for their time. If we have sex of any kind then you round up to the nearest 30 minutes /45 minutes if available. I have gotten refunded from 60 minutes down to 30 minutes many times. But I never tried to get my tip back but have been given it back before.

If you don't like it before shower then of course get it all back. That is what I have seen.

360 hr, dfk, BBBJ, cfs.

Its been a while since I've been here which is weird as I was here quite a lot before. Got one punch left on my second card.

Get there wait in the little room for 10 minutes. Get into Yukina's room and she is pretty and about 5 foot. I'd say natural Cs, a little soft on mid section, decent ass. I gave the quick hug and immediately settle up. She says no condom is 200. I am just into bagging it now so I didn't try to negotiate. Shower was just a shower.

Get back in the room and was like do I have buyer's remorse? Should I cut it to 30 minutes?

I sit on the bed and I like to pull them on top of me. She starts getting on the bed and she is on hands and knees in basically doggy style. I grab her ass and she stays like that. So I get behind her and lick her pussy and she likes it and she has Bush. Here I was like okay she is going to be fun. There is a quick BBBJ which goes past the head but not past the circumcision scar. We 69 and this is fun and I came close to busting here at one point. On with the condom and she does not use lube.

She sits on me CG and it is just the head at first. I pull her close to me and give slow pumps getting deeper with each one. She is heavy breathing. I don't mean the sexy kind I mean the kind when women are having a baby. After getting it all the way in she tries to bounce a bit but she is too tight for me to move back and forth and her hips are south of mine which makes it impossible to pound from bottom.

Standing mish as first she has her legs up and that doesn't last so I am close to her with her legs by my waist. I put one hand above her shoulder on the bed and the other I use to grab onto her to slide her back and forth. And here I was getting some good sliding all the way in and out. Wet enough. I did ask her to put on lube but I don't think she had any. She was not taking this position well and had the grimace struggle face on and lots of guttural offs. Eyes a little wet.

Get her in standing doggy which didn't last. Right away she is falling forward but her knees are almost falling off them bed. She was so close to getting in a level 5 position. In doggy where mid thigh is on the edge of the bed so their ass is at a 45 degree angle. That is a power fuck position as it is great to hold onto their back. But she falls on her stomach and screams. I am out. She is just lying on her stomach so I think lazy doggy. Head goes in another scream.

Ok, we have to fuck somehow so we go regular mish. Looking at her face in the mirror is hot. I am banging her as hard as I can and it is hot and I am sweating but not quitting. Even wiping my forehead on the pillow to not get it in my eyes. I bust and she tries to cover my mouth with her hand. The hand she used to put the condom so I got a nice taste of that. Then I am making some goofy rawarewarerarea noise to get a laugh and she imitates me and laughs. I always do this when really banging a girl hard. It is like the compliment sandwich. Nice coming in, bang as hard as possible, then nice after.

I asked for shower but she said not time yet. She fell asleep on me until it was time to shower. This is what I like. I don't want a massage after and most times don't care about talking. I just want the girl to lay in my arms and sleep but I can never fall asleep. I have had plenty of girls fall asleep for a few minutes though.

So in the end she was a good time. I just wish I had lube.

[QUOTE=JavLuvr;6444572]Way too many new J-girls have been going to NYCSE lately, but finally we are seeing some new talent at 10 TC. Yukina is probably the best girl in the lineup over there right now.My only complaint is the blocking, as she cannot handle a big dick. [/QUOTE]It is a game of chess. I know how to get a checkmate from most positions.