"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

So bikini girl finally stayed over last night, all we have done so far is some very light OTC touching and lot of talking. This girl probably is what a lot of guys are looking for. Mature in nature, gym fit and has only had 3 jobs in the last 10 years working for C level executives at fortune 500's. Bachelors in marketing and business admin.

I have been spending like .3 a day just to have her hang out all day for a few days while she examines my life and tries to decide if she is willing to be one of my girls. She knows about my four current regulars and of course has met the virgin.

Today we talked about escalating the play time to the real deal so I can pay her for real. She just left and may come back tonite to sleep over again. I have not pressured her in any way and am not going to.

She is the best 33 year old I have encountered that is willing to roll with the $ donation. She is an AA island girl. 5'7" and 117. Really an 8/10/10/?.... I never get bored or annoyed with her. She goes to the spa and gym regularly and has perfect skin. Just a middle class type girl next door.

I told her if we have good sex then there really is nothing left to talk about because we get along great. I am hoping she says yes.

[QUOTE=RedThunder;2590136]Thanks for the posts. I've been in the bowl for a month and found six girls that made it to FC. I just met the very first one again and the difference was night and day. The first visit was great. Lasted three or so hours for 1. 5. Today she wants 2. 5 which I declined. Settled at 2. In and out in an hour. One shot and very business like. She's a thin latina with DD's. I liked her before but guess she's off the list now. The money must have killed it. I'm just not going to pay that when plenty are good with 1-1. 5 or less.[/QUOTE]I always think the best fuck is the first. The excitement of exploring unknown territory. Some of these girls will completely unleash their inner sl*t on you the first couple of dates, then over time start to convince you they are June Clever.

I think I've had one actual long-term (dated over a year) girlfriend that I can recall that consistently delivered the kind of experience, time and time again, I would expect from my favorite porn star fantasy. To this day I wish I knew the secret formula -- must have just been chemistry between us, but the fucking was absolutely stellar and it didn't matter if it was 3-4 times per day or what time of day or where, always perfect. But oddly she was a church freak and when my cock wasn't in her mouth she was usually lecturing me about God and how we shouldn't be doing all this out of wedlock, so it never materialized into a real relationship.

Point is with SBs, just move onto the next. Don't look up old flames. Enjoy the newness of the first fuck and the fact there is always another one. There is pretty much no other environment where the ratio is so much in your favor, take advantage of it.

There was a post recently about the % income bracket needed for SD to be paying 10 K allowance. Can someone refer me to it? I need it for a GPS girl I know. I am actually her friend not trying to SD her but trying to explain the odds to her. She just moved to LA and is looking for a SD to pay her 120 k / year.

I love this thread. But how is a guy that gets less than 1% of all the pussy posting 50% of all the posts. Give it a rest dude.

Maybe there should be a new rule. If you haven't fucked it within the last 30 days. don't post about it. It's ancient history. And this is more about current events. Like I dont care who you fucked 20 years ago.

I already fucked 10 different girls this month. Did you fuck any?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2590739]I love this thread. But how is a guy that gets less than 1% of all the pussy posting 50% of all the posts. Give it a rest dude.

Maybe there should be a new rule. If you haven't fucked it within the last 30 days. don't post about it. It's ancient history. And this is more about current events. Like I dont care who you fucked 20 years ago.

I already fucked 10 different girls this month. Did you fuck any?[/QUOTE]Well HG, I see now your problems run way deeper than a lame foot. I don't know who took a shit in your bed this morning, but your unprovoked attack is not only against USASG terms of service (you know, the ones that you chastised Helion about a few posts back), but also reveals your deep-seated insecurities and desire to be self-appointed king of this thread. You do not define what this thread is about any more than I do. You may not want to hear about my experiences, I don't want to see pics of your skanky tranny look a-likes pay-by-the-hour "dates". Guess we both have to deal with what we have to deal with?

So now that we have everything out on the table, I will say that you do have a point that I have been spending more time in this thread lately than I probably should so perhaps I should explain why. A lot of people here have been thanking me personally for my recent posts, and I do get my fair share of PMs which ask specific questions and I try to address them publicly (both for PM box space consideration reasons and because I think others will benefit if its discussed in the thread rather than answering the same things over and over in PM).

So there you go. My suggestion to you if you don't like my posts is simply don't read them. It takes a lot less effort to ignore posts than to cry about what's in them. We all know the real problem is that your ego requires that you be the only one posting.

Now if I start to get the vibe from others that they'd just rather I stop posting, that's different. I'd be happy to.

Oh, and because you asked, I got laid almost every day in the last month. And I didn't pay a penny for it.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2590753]Well HG, I see now your problems run way deeper than a lame foot. I don't know who took a shit in your bed this morning, but your unprovoked attack is not only against USASG terms of service (you know, the ones that you chastised Helion about a few posts back), but also reveals your deep-seated insecurities and desire to be self-appointed king of this thread. You do not define what this thread is about any more than I do. You may not want to hear about my experiences, I don't want to see pics of your skanky tranny look a-likes. Guess we both have to deal with what we have to deal with?

So now that we have everything out on the table, I will say that you do have a point that I have been spending more time in this thread lately than I probably should so perhaps I should explain why. A lot of people here have been thanking me personally for my recent posts, and I do get my fair share of PMs which ask specific questions and I try to address them publicly (both for space consideration reasons and because I think others will benefit if its discussed in the thread rather than answering the same things over and over in PM).

So there you go. My suggestion to you if you don't like my posts is simply don't read them. It takes a lot less effort to do that than to cry about posts.

Now if I start to get the vibe from others that they'd just rather I stop posting, that's different. I'd be happy to.

Oh, and because you asked, I got laid almost every day in the last month. And I didn't pay a penny for it.[/QUOTE]Go away. Or take over. Because I am long gone. It was nice knowing you all. And I didnt even mention any names, LOL

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2590756]Go away. Or take over. Because I am long gone. It was nice knowing you all. And I didnt even mention any names, LOL[/QUOTE]I'm certainly not "taking over". Nobody needs to "own" the thread or play the role of cock of the walk. That's the part you don't seem to understand. If you want to take your issues elsewhere to work them out, then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. It doesn't matter to me and I doubt anyone else. I've already told you your entire modus operandi is different than mine. My posts are meant for the folks who PM me (some of whom don't even post here). They are not written for your enjoyment. Read them if you want, if not then don't. If you do read choose to read them, remember that was your choice, so there's no need to complain about what's in them. A lot of times I don't even read your posts and certainly wouldn't blame anyone for not reading mine.

Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?

Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?

THANK YOU!

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2590862]Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?

Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?

THANK YOU![/QUOTE]Agreed. Part of what has made this thread worthwhile is that it has been largely void of the typical shit-stirring and one-upmanship of the interwebs -- kind of a shame that had to change this morning. I don't know what makes some folks go off the rails sometimes but it seems to be an inherent and eventual part of net forum discussions. I'm just surprised that in a monolithic thread of 10 k+ posts it didn't happen sooner. I do try to quell these things, but if I leave things without response there's nothing to prevent it from recurring. Hopefully it's over (for now). The less discussed, the quicker it will go away.

I enjoy both of your contributions, so put away the sabers and keep on keeping on.

My $. 02.

As a LT monger who's mostly done these types of situations, wish I had known about this place years ago. Started reading from the back and like 1/5 the way through.

Do have a question, have any of you who have read the SB blogs heard of them being told to check the hotel TVs to get our real name? Made the mistake of leaving one in the room recently, she's inexperienced I'm relatively certain in not only being in hotels but also arrangements, and don't think there's any chance she'd know to do this without reading it somewhere. So just wondering if anyone has ever seen that suggested online to them. TIA.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2590862]Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?

Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?

THANK YOU![/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

Well, I spent the afternoon on Friday with my Armenian princess, working the knots out for a couple of hours then, as promised, reviewing the assorted SBs I had tagged for us on SA who indicated that they were interested in both men and women. I had previously gone through and done a search on my own personal criteria as to age, body type, location, smoking and drinking habits etc, so was only looking at babies who would have cleared my initial screening. Then I went back and looked at each one and "favorited" those who were interested in women as well. The final count, after eliminating some who were not attractive to me, was a whopping 280 or so! Either bisexuality is the new black among the younger babies, or Chicago is a hot bed of lesbian want to-bes.

In any event, I was thrilled that there were so many to choose from, and since every last one of those 280 would I gladly fuck, even by themselves, I was convinced my SB would think she was in heaven. Imagine how surprised I was to see how incredibly picky she was, however, which I feel just goes to illustrate yet another difference between the sexes. I would have messaged them all, and see how things sorted out, but she selected a mere handful, 7 I believe, as potentially viable for our three-some. My odds aren't looking great, but I'm going to give it the old college try and see if I can move this forward.

As an interesting aside, when I pointed out how many SBs there were in the Chicago area in general, she said that was kind of frightening to her, and one of the reasons she wants to be selective. Apparently a good percentage of the women she works with, and knows socially, have some kind of STD, and she just figures that if there are thousands of babies in our area, a lot of them have something communicable as well. Gives one pause, does it not?

In any event, today I begin the process of seduction on The Approved Ones, and will see how it goes. Our strategy is for me to contact them as I normally would, set up the m&g, and see what the vibe is. If it is going well, I will gently touch on the subject, and if the response is positive, set up a second m&g with the three of us. I might let the Princess show up first, just to let the two women talk, and then show up "late". The new baby might feel more comfortable that way. Thoughts?

Scott.

P.S. May everyone have a wonderful and happy day, and remember how lucky we are to have found this amazing pursuit!

[QUOTE=FScott;2591656]Gentlemen,

Well, I spent the afternoon on Friday with my Armenian princess, working the knots out for a couple of hours then, as promised, reviewing the assorted SBs I had tagged for us on SA who indicated that they were interested in both men and women. I had previously gone through and done a search on my own personal criteria as to age, body type, location, smoking and drinking habits etc, so was only looking at babies who would have cleared my initial screening. Then I went back and looked at each one and "favorited" those who were interested in women as well. The final count, after eliminating some who were not attractive to me, was a whopping 280 or so! Either bisexuality is the new black among the younger babies, or Chicago is a hot bed of lesbian want to-bes.

Thoughts?

Scott.

![/QUOTE]Put it all on her -stay out of it until she narrows the field to 1 candidate.

Remember, she might not want to have a girl who might be hotter than she -therefore winning your attention away.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;2591380]As a LT monger who's mostly done these types of situations, wish I had known about this place years ago. Started reading from the back and like 1/5 the way through.

Do have a question, have any of you who have read the SB blogs heard of them being told to check the hotel TVs to get our real name? Made the mistake of leaving one in the room recently, she's inexperienced I'm relatively certain in not only being in hotels but also arrangements, and don't think there's any chance she'd know to do this without reading it somewhere. So just wondering if anyone has ever seen that suggested online to them. TIA.[/QUOTE]I honestly have never seen my name on a hotel TV (but then I rarely watch it when traveling). I have had a few that like to pick up the remote and start flipping though. Do you mean the guest's name broadcast on a channel by the hotel, or something like a card with the wi-fi instructions sitting near it?