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[QUOTE=D Nut; 1600378]Sometimes, things just don't click between a provider and a John. It happens. Sometimes, a guy will want more than a provider is willing to do for money. Again, it happens. Either party can choose to back out. Hotsquirt, you have the right to say,"No" at any time.

The only question I have is,"Did you keep the money without providing services?". If you took the money and didn't deliver for any reason, then you did a cash-and-dash. (Even if it was in your incall and didn't really dash anywhere.). If you decided that he was too rude, too demanding, too short, too tall, too big, too small, too smelly, etc, then you should have given him the money back and then kick him out.

Also, was it true that there were other people there, including children, and you asked if it was okay for them to stay? Really?

I don't care who was rude, or who had too much attitude or high expectations. If services were not provided, money should never have exchanged hands.[/QUOTE]Good questions D Nut!

And o service given. If the man offended you hand his resources back and show him the door. You don't keep it because he pizzed you off. That is totally unprofessional on your part and doesn't warrant you keeping his resources. You said it was the second time you saw him. If he was this way before then why see him the second time? So if you did this then every guy on the board needs to seriously consider no longer seeing you until you make it right. You are NOT entitled to any thing until you provide. If he is / was rude you can bring that to the boards but keeping his resources because of it with no service is unacceptable and if you don't think so then men should give you a wide berth until you make it right. No trust if you don't. Just my. 02 cents worth

[QUOTE=HotSquirt;1600015]No sorry hun it was the 2nd time seeing you. You are very rude. You told me you didn't like my attitude you came in demanding me to do things that I didn't want to do! So all providers out there be safe because this guy is a douche! Very demanding! And thinks his shit don't stink![/QUOTE]So Rudeness justifies theft? I have considered seeing this provider in the past, but for one reason or another I just felt something wasn't quite right, and her attitude here I believe justifies my opinion. I agree with the rest here she should be ostracized until she makes it right to the customer. If you don't like some one don't see them, but just because you don't like them is no reason to steal from them, and if what he says is true about there being others around especially kids I am thinking I would have not felt comfortable with that either. I am not sure what things he wanted you to do that were not on your menu since I have seen your ad's here for quite a while and I got the idea that your menu was a blank page waiting for anything to be filled in so long as the price was right. Something tells me you should change your posting name to Liar / thief.

Not taking sides here but I do see both of their respected points. Maybe she asked him to leave without thinking about giving the donation back. And just because you donate doesn't give you a right to be nasty.

On the other side of the coin I'm sure providers have bad days too but like a waiter they have to shrug it off and put on a smile for the next customer.

Like the old saying goes, there is always 3 sides to an argument, her side, his side, and the truth.

PIF

[QUOTE=HotSquirt;1600015]No sorry hun it was the 2nd time seeing you. You are very rude. You told me you didn't like my attitude you came in demanding me to do things that I didn't want to do! So all providers out there be safe because this guy is a douche! Very demanding! And thinks his shit don't stink![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Nut; 1600378]Sometimes, things just don't click between a provider and a John. It happens. Sometimes, a guy will want more than a provider is willing to do for money. Again, it happens. Either party can choose to back out. Hotsquirt, you have the right to say,"No" at any time.

The only question I have is,"Did you keep the money without providing services?". If you took the money and didn't deliver for any reason, then you did a cash-and-dash. (Even if it was in your incall and didn't really dash anywhere.). If you decided that he was too rude, too demanding, too short, too tall, too big, too small, too smelly, etc, then you should have given him the money back and then kick him out.

Also, was it true that there were other people there, including children, and you asked if it was okay for them to stay? Really?

I don't care who was rude, or who had too much attitude or high expectations. If services were not provided, money should never have exchanged hands.[/QUOTE]I agree Zen Master D Nut, She owes him a make up or his money back. If it was as described other women and kids present that should have been a no go or why would she schedule appointment in the first place. Talk about performance anxiety.

Doc Moose

I just saw Ally's current photo's and I got to say Wow! She is looking more and more stunning by the day. I would say she is heading to the top of the list here as a provider.

Doc Moose

[QUOTE=Dr Moose; 1600799]I just saw Ally's current photo's and I got to say Wow! She is looking more and more stunning by the day. I would say she is heading to the top of the list here as a provider.

Doc Moose[/QUOTE]I got a close first hand look at Ally's blue corset thingy that is in the pics. Yea. Its pretty sweet. And so is she!

I see a lot talk on here about Ally. I am not sure I know which provider she is. Can someone give me some info, or ad link or something? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dr Moose; 1600799]I just saw Ally's current photo's and I got to say Wow! She is looking more and more stunning by the day. I would say she is heading to the top of the list here as a provider.

Doc Moose[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BahamaMama;1600880]I see a lot talk on here about Ally. I am not sure I know which provider she is. Can someone give me some info, or ad link or something? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ally = Sinful Dream

[QUOTE=BahamaMama;1600880]I see a lot talk on here about Ally. I am not sure I know which provider she is. Can someone give me some info, or ad link or something? Thanks.[/QUOTE]USSG handle is "Sinful Dreams". Check the provider ads forum.

I'm not agreeing with the other people and kids in the house thing but, as a rule once your money hits a providers hand its gone. If you show up and act an ass, you still need to pay. Why? Because we've lost atleast an hour of time that couldve been reserved for someone else. The same thing for NCNS, if you waste my time after I've scheduled & you dony show up its a cancel fee. What about the guys who've been calling girls recently for bogus outcalls, when they show up its a fake address or no one is there. Respect the providers, we'll respect you.

[QUOTE=OldGoober;1600669]So Rudeness justifies theft? I have considered seeing this provider in the past, but for one reason or another I just felt something wasn't quite right, and her attitude here I believe justifies my opinion. I agree with the rest here she should be ostracized until she makes it right to the customer. If you don't like some one don't see them, but just because you don't like them is no reason to steal from them, and if what he says is true about there being others around especially kids I am thinking I would have not felt comfortable with that either. I am not sure what things he wanted you to do that were not on your menu since I have seen your ad's here for quite a while and I got the idea that your menu was a blank page waiting for anything to be filled in so long as the price was right. Something tells me you should change your posting name to Liar / thief.[/QUOTE]

Look There Was things that did happen and he took my time so I took my donation aint nothing wrong with it at all. I Aint On This Drama I Been Classy And Held Back But I Aint Anymore. This Shit Is Getting Ridicouls. I'm Here To Satisfied And Help Guys Out! Like They Are Here For Me. I'm Pretty sure their are other girls out here that can vouch for me on this guy jakejay. And men out here that can vouch for me of who I really am! And I sure the hell didn't have kids at my place. LOL. Ill see what else is going to be posted and and sure to stay on top of this because aint nobody going to knock me down and make me lose friends!

Xoxoxo hotsquirt happy hunting gents!

Look very hot but need some background info on both. PM if anyone has seen them and knows their menus PTM

[QUOTE=BahamaMama;1600880]I see a lot talk on here about Ally. I am not sure I know which provider she is. Can someone give me some info, or ad link or something? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ally is top shelf and don't walk run fast. Any other questions please ask.

[QUOTE=HotSquirt; 1601022]Look There Was things that did happen and he took my time so I took my donation aint nothing wrong with it at all. I Aint On This Drama I Been Classy And Held Back But I Aint Anymore. This Shit Is Getting Ridicouls. I'm Here To Satisfied And Help Guys Out! Like They Are Here For Me. I'm Pretty sure their are other girls out here that can vouch for me on this guy jakejay. And men out here that can vouch for me of who I really am! And I sure the hell didn't have kids at my place. LOL. Ill see what else is going to be posted and and sure to stay on top of this because aint nobody going to knock me down and make me lose friends!

Xoxoxo hotsquirt happy hunting gents![/QUOTE]This post doesn't help her situation out in my eyes. Maybe the kids that were present wrote this for her.

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[QUOTE=Utr In Ohio; 1601563]I can only say the thing both are clear about is she did keep the money.

If she did have company or the set up was uncomfortable for him I can't see why he paid her anyway! He could have bounced the minute she went off the path.

I see clearly both sides. Her time and his time and money.

Best suggestion to all hobbyist. Never, ever pay upfront! You turn a simple meeting for mutual satisfaction into a crime the minute you do. Not to mention its hard to get back if you get 0 service.

For the ladies. Tis better to get ripped off than busted!

Jmo.

B.[/QUOTE]Sorry B. I have to disagree with you on this one. Regardless of what the disclaimers say, clients DO NOT pay for time. Clients pay for a service. It was also incall and as such, it was HER RESPONSIBILITY to provide a safe, secure, and PRIVATE location. She failed to provide a reasonable environment. She failed in the location, and shefailed to provide services. (I call BS on her "he took up my time so I am taking the money." excuse.) The session failed because of her failures so she deserves no money whatsoever.

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Saw hot squirt in past. She did not rob me. However I was very disappointed.

She was not the girl in the pics she uses. I hate when girls do that. Either blur out your face like.

Delicious Dawn or don't post any pics. Don't false advertise using someone elses pictures.

Ally,

You are very hot & I would lick you from now until the morning, but we all get bullshit and no call no shows. All providers are different, we all have unique personalities & tolerance levels. I love men and genuinely love my job but, I have a super low tolerance for people playing on the phone / no call no shows. I always have NCNS trying to reschedule the next days, week. This business should be all about fun, but it has it's own issues and dangers. Maybe I act & operate my business differently because I came here from some where else that extensive screening is a must and things like outcalls will get you robbed & raped. As far as $$ I don't collect my donation until a session is over because I realise LE can have a legitime phone number, fake work references, & fake provider references. I also don't take provider references or forum names for this reason. I just believe my time is as valuable as my clients. I've been providing for 3 years, and it's my only income as of Feb. I live in Milwaukee, and it's quite costly to travel & stay from Wisconsin to Ohio 2 weeks out of the month. NCNS & people playing on the phone causes me to loose $ & drain my savings. Providers & Clients alike have various bills that need to be paid on time. I ADORE my clients & appreciate them choosing to spend time with me. We should all be flattered these men like us enough to spend large sums of $$ on us. If it wasnt for these guys I wouldn't be able to pay my mortage, pay a car note, pay my childrens tuition, student loans, have nice hair, nails etc. So I am thankful for most of the wonderful guys in Cincy. As long as the 2 consenting adults respect each others time & money no problems.

Have a nice day pretty lady,

Doll

[QUOTE=Sinful Dreams; 1601473]Okay I am a provider, and I don't agree with you once the money hits my hand its gone. Honey, you are giving these men a service, something they are paying for. If they aren't happy, or even act an ass, the mentality shouldn't be oh well you still need to pay. And how are you going to get a cancel fee IF they nc / ns you? I take the time to get to know my clients, and put myself in their shoes as to what they want. I communicate, and ask questions so that there are no problems. This should be all about fun, and them paying for a service that we are providing. I personally don't have nc / ns, and maybe because of the way I operate is the reason why. Just my two cents. I get plenty of respect, do my research beforehand, or I just decline to see that client, and I have done it plenty of times.

Be Safe,

Ally[/QUOTE]

Aaaahhhhh. I think I had the best pre turkey day exercise a fella could ask for. Met Molly today and boy was it worth the wait!

Absolutely accommodating, fun, easy to talk to and just plain enjoyable. Molly moved quickly to the top of my ATF list.

Thanks Molly and have a happy thanksgiving everyone!

Anyone have any reviews of Nikki that posted an ad on here today?

I had a lovely dream of Kendra last night. She is a delightfully lusty wench that is playful and truly loves what she does.

She is a bigger girl which I happen to like. She is soft and clean. She is a smoker but I could detect no Tobacco odor on her.

The Incall location was nice and easy to find in NKY. In my dream her kisses were hot and soft and filled with desire, the BBBJ

Was a delight and her enthusiasm for the grand finally was unmatched by any provider I have ever seen.

Kendra is a definite must see for some one who likes a bigger girl and if you love the spinner I am thinking she will have you addicted to.

The positive attributes of a plusher woman who is all soft and curvy. She is not a clock watcher and wore me out, there will no doubt be an.

Encore performance in the future with her, and I can see her becoming an ATF.

I had a pleasant texting session with Zarah last night. She said she was glad I texted as she was out of minutes and someone else does her ads on here so she doesn't see the PMs I guess. I told her I could meet her at 9 AM this morning and she said great and gave me the general address. Pm me for location please. This should of been my first red flag as I remember others talking of the poor quality Notels / Hotels here. I left from Indiana side of the border at 8 with plenty of time. Sent her a text at about 8:16 and 8:30 asking if we were still on. Got into the area and texted again at almost 9 asking if she was cancelling. No responses all the way through and none as of now almost 11. Long story short. I did not get to sample services. Looking back through the posts there has been another no show for her on the boards. I was very disapointed for waste of time and money. She is off my list and out of my will.

[QUOTE=Bjorn61;1602481]I had a pleasant texting session with Zarah last night. She said she was glad I texted as she was out of minutes and someone else does her ads on here so she doesn't see the PMs I guess. I told her I could meet her at 9 AM this morning and she said great and gave me the general address. Pm me for location please. This should of been my first red flag as I remember others talking of the poor quality Notels / Hotels here. I left from Indiana side of the border at 8 with plenty of time. Sent her a text at about 8:16 and 8:30 asking if we were still on. Got into the area and texted again at almost 9 asking if she was cancelling. No responses all the way through and none as of now almost 11. Long story short. I did not get to sample services. Looking back through the posts there has been another no show for her on the boards. I was very disapointed for waste of time and money. She is off my list and out of my will.[/QUOTE]I was going to see zarah before I canceled myself the notel she is staying in is the sycamore in rosélawn with you being from Indiana you are perfect for them to rob this is one of the worst notels in the city and nothing but trouble happens there, also you can pick a girl up at that notel or general area for half that and she probably would have taken you to zarahs room. I'm telling you not hooking up with her was nine times out of ten the best non move you ever made. Not to bad mouth her because I never hooked up with her but the area and the criminal element, along with the uncle presence makes that place a spot for seasoned cincinnatians only.

I don't think I never seen you before LOL haha read my reviews my MEETINGs ARE 100% ACCURATE!

Please you guys don't even know what happend and you wasnt in my shoes to see what happend. This guy came in demanding throwing my hands back, stunk very bad. And everything I didn't like how he was treating me and my time so he said I don't like your attitude so I said I don't like you and told him to get out. Who cares?

She opened the door to my apartment and was led by Strawberry Red inside.

"Do you want something to drink?" she asked said in a slight southern accent as I walked towards the kitchen."No thanks," I say. Strawberry Red is relatively new in town, although luck and good fortune she is respected friend of afriend. Strawberry Red's friends with a very special lady I have come to know and and enjoy. I started texting her and was glad to get a chance to know her before visiting her.

With each passing text, we had gotten more and more intimate. I decided a dine, some wine and 69 was in order. Finally I got my nerve up to ask for details and had invited been back to her place. The implications behind the invitation were implied. I hope. Strawberry Red is the first girl I had been out with on a real date since my bad break up six months ago. I wanted to enjoy her company and her sexually. I liked her, and I wanted to do this right. As much as I would like to get serviced, it is more important to do it at speed she would be comfortable with. I felt a solid connection with her and I wanted to go further with it. Risky to try to be any more than a lick, but I wanted to try to learn her and find out her story she was nervous I could tell. I came back to the living room and sat down on the couch beside Strawberry Red. She has strawberry blonde red, shoulder length hair and beautiful blue eyes. She was wearing a black tank top, blue jeans, and black flip-flops. The tank top accentuated the cleavage of her voluptuous and creamy white breasts. We talked for a few minutes about our date, how she had gotten crab legs that had tasted like they were three weeks old, and how my steak was so rare it mooed when I poked it.

"So," Strawberry Red said after a prolonged silence."What do we do with the rest of the right."

"We can always do one of my favorite activities," I said with a smirk."It involves two people doing some jumping." "I can guess," she said with a wink. 'Checkers," I replied."I guessed wrong." We both laughed and that is when I made my move, kissing Strawberry Red on the lips as she laughed. I put my hand on her jaw as I slipped my tongue into her mouth. We massaged tongues and I pulled away from her.

"We can always save the checkers for later," she said, reaching out and kissing me.

Five minutes later, we were both in the bedroom, standing up and kissing. I had stripped down to my boxers while Strawberry Red is in a black bra that barely contained her tits, and a pair of boy shorts that were driving me wild. I held both her ass cheeks as I kissed her neck.

I wrapped my arms around Strawberry Red's waist and reached in for another kiss. As we both kissed and explored each other's mouths, I could feel heat radiating from Strawberry Red's panties. It felt so good, just the thought of it was getting me hard. While we continued to kiss, my hands traveled upward to Strawberry Red's back and her bra. I unsnapped it with a simple tug to the clasp. Strawberry Red broke the kiss and let the top slide off her shoulders and to the floor, exposing her breasts to me. They lived up the hype. There is hardly any sagging to them, the small areolae were topped off with pink nipples that were poking upwards like tiny pebbles. I kissed and sucked on Strawberry Red's neck while my left hand firmly held her left breast. I stroked her nipple until it is hard.

"Bed," she breathed out. I complied, falling back on to my bed with her. Our hands explored each other's bodies, her hands rubbing my shoulders while I played with her marvelous breasts. Strawberry Red reached out and took my right hand, guiding it down south. I felt the warmth and wetness from her crotch as I slipped my hand into her underwear. There is a light stubble of pubic hair on my fingertips as I slid a finger inside her. She moaned and broke away from me.

"Wait," she said."You've got protection, right?"

"Yeah," I said, pulling away and reaching into pocket. I pulled a condom out and handed it to Strawberry Red. She opened it and with one hand, slid my boxers off to free my hardened cock."I don't care about foreplay or teasing right now," Strawberry Red said, stroking my cock with one hand."I just need to be fucked,"

She slid the rubber on to my hard cock and stroked it a few times to secure it. She slid upwards and navigated on top of me. Strawberry Red leaned down and kissed me as she situated my cock just on the outside of her wet opening. Both Strawberry Red and I let out a groan as she slid on top of me, my member impaling her. Strawberry Red began to ride me slowly, guiding my erection in and out of her at a steady pace. I placed my hands on her hip and leaned head back on the pillow to look up at her. Her strawberry blonde red hair gently swayed to the rhythm she set and her bright blue eyes. I tilted my head back and let a soft moan escape from my lips. It felt so good to be inside of her, even with a condom, and I wasn't sure how long I could last. I moved my hands off Strawberry Red's hips and cupped her breast, stroking and teasing her nipples with my fingers. She began to pick up speed. As Strawberry Red quickened her pace, I added to it by thrusting upwards in rhythm. The extra depth set shockwaves of pleasure through my body. Strawberry Red pulled my hand away from her left breast and started to tweak the nipple with her own hand."Strawberry Red," I murmured. I could feel myself approaching orgasm. My dick start to throb and thicken, a sure sign the end is nigh. I began to buck my hips hard against the back of Strawberry Red's thighs."I'm close." Strawberry Red placed both hands on the headboard of the bed. She used the leverage to thrust down hard on my cock. The power of her thrusts drove me against the headboard. I pushed myself up off the pillow and buried my face into Strawberry Red's tits. I held on hard to her hips and placed my mouth on the nipple of her right breast. I nibbled and sucked on it with my tongue. Strawberry Red let out a long moan and ran her fingers through my hair. She thrust harder and harder against me. I felt a tingle running through my testicles. I pulled away from Strawberry Red's chest and planted my lips on hers. Our tongues darted in and out of each other's mouths. Strawberry Red broke the kiss and locked eyes with me."Here I come," she said in a sultry sexy voice. I kissed and sucked on Strawberry Red's neck as her thrusts reached their climax.

Strawberry Red let out a loud moan and it pushed me over the edge. A wave of pleasure overcame me as I came. My cock twitched, sending out a rope of cum that the condom caught. Just a second later, I felt the walls of Strawberry Red's pussy contract around my member. Strawberry Red let out a gasp and stopped thrusting, her thighs shook and spasmed against mine. She gabbed the back of my head and shoved her lips against mine, kissing me deeply. More ropes shot out while Strawberry Red's insides milked me for all I was worth.

When I was done, I fell back on the bed and breathed heavily. Strawberry Red pulled me out of her and climbed off of me. She fell beside me as I ripped the condom off and tossed it in the trashcan beside my bed. Our bodies were covered in sweat, our faces red and flushed. Strawberry Red put her arm on my chest, her head on my shoulder."God," she breathed."I needed that."

"So, I rocked your world?" "I wouldn't go so far as to say that. You were. Adequate."

"Adequate? Well, considering what some women have said about me in the past, I'll take that."

We rested for several minutes, in the afterglow of orgasm. I kissed Strawberry Red on the top of her head to get her attention."Seeing as how it's been awhile for both of me, would another go be out of the question?"

Strawberry Red looked at me with a contemplative look before smirking."Again," she whispered into my ear."This time, do better than adequate."

Strawberry Red nibbled on my earlobe and kissed my chest. I turned my head and watched as she navigated south, kissing my stomach before she handled my slowly stiffening penis. She gently blew on it before she ran her tongue across the head. Without warning, she placed my cock in her mouth and went to work. I looked down and watched her head bobbing up and down. While inside her mouth, she rolled her tongue around my member and slowly licked the shaft. I placed my hand on the top of Strawberry Red's head and guided her pace. She brought one of her hands up to my balls and tickled them. Strawberry Red pulled my cock from her mouth and wrapped her sweet young breasts around it. I slid up and down her breasts with ease. I let out a soft moan as I titty fucked Strawberry Red.

"If you make me cum first this time," she calmly said,"I'll let you come anywhere you want."

Knowing a challenge when I heard one, I sat up and leaned over to the nightstand. I pulled a new condom from my pants and ripped it open. A few seconds later, I had it on my cock and watched Strawberry Red. She picked herself up and started to squat over my member when I held out a hand.

"Let me on top this time."

"Fine."

Strawberry Red laid back down on the bed and crawled up to me. We kissed deeply, our tongues probing each others mouths. I broke the kiss, pulling away from Strawberry Red as she playfully bit my lip. I positioned myself on top of Strawberry Red and spread her legs apart. I teased the opening of her slick pussy with my penis head. Strawberry Red moaned and reached down to grab my cock. She eased me into her, slowly filling her all the way up with my cock. She put her legs on my shoulders as I began to thrust against her. I placed my hands on her tits and began to massage them, stroking the nipples as I slid in and out of her.

Strawberry Red groaned and her left foot hit me in the back of the head as she slid her legs down and tightly wrapped them around my waist. I grabbed the bed sheet on both sides of Strawberry Red's head for leverage, thrusting against the increased resistance she is creating.

Strawberry Red grabbed my left wrist and took my hand, sticking my index finger in her mouth and sucking on it. I looked down and nearly came at what I saw. I was balls deep inside Strawberry Red's wet slit while her breasts rocked to my pace. Her beautiful red hair framed her face perfectly and she had a mischievous look on her face while she sucked on my finger.

I picked up the pace, pulling my hand away from Strawberry Red's mouth and reaching down to stroke her clit with it. She arched her back and her breast heaved as she gasped."I'm close, I'm almost there. Don't stop, here I cum!"

Strawberry Red squeezed her legs harder and I gave it one final thrust inside her of. She contracted around my cock and her hands grabbed my shoulders as she came. I pulled out to keep from cumming I slid himself up Strawberry Red's body and called my shot.

"I'm going to cum on your tits."

Strawberry Red squeezed her breasts together as I rubbed my cock against her tits. I ripped the condom off and tossed it over my shoulder as my twitching cock wedged itself in between the valley Strawberry Red's tits had created. I thrust for a few seconds before I let out a long groan. Cum exploded out of my cock and covered her creamy white tits in my milky cum. I pumped my hips in the air and shot another rope, this one striking Strawberry Red's neck and chin. Strawberry Red took my cock in her hands, working it up and down and milking the extra cum from my cock and on to her tits. When she is done, I fell back and landed by the foot of her bed. I reached over and stroked Strawberry Red's legs.

"How is that," I gasped."Better?"

"Much," Strawberry Red replied. She wiped the cum from her neck and licked it from her hand."That is satisfactory."

"Thank you," he replied.

"I wonder, if you could go for 'excellent'?"

"Again?" I asked, incredulously."I know it's been a few months since I got some, but I don't know if I can go again."

"Fine," Strawberry Red said with a disappointed tone in her voice."I believe I'll have a shower."

She picked herself off the bed and padded to the bathroom. I watched her going, her hips swaying. I heard the shower kick on and Strawberry Red step in. A few moments later, I began to hear Strawberry Red's moans from the shower. I knew what she is trying to do. I looked down at my semi-hard erection and saw it is working. Cursing, I picked my tired ass up off the bed and reached back into my pants for another condom. I opened the wrapper and followed Strawberry Red into the shower. The curtain is open and Strawberry Red is soaking wet, her legs slightly parted and a finger inside of her pussy.

"Took you long enough," she said. I took a few moments to put the condom on and then stepped into the shower when she was done. We shared a kiss, the hot water soaking my body. I took Strawberry Red by the hips and turned her around to face the wall. I entered her from behind and began to thrust. Strawberry Red put her hands against the wall while I reached around and put my right hand on Strawberry Red's crotch and stuck a finger inside. I slowly fucked her from behind while I stroked and tweaked her clit. Strawberry Red moaned and began to thrust her ass backwards against my cock.

She looked back at me and smirked."Make me cum this time and I'll let you cum in my mouth." I leaned forward and kissed her deeply. Strawberry Red broke the kiss and leaned forward against the wall, her ass grinding against my cock. Steam is rising off our bodies as the hot water hit it. I picked up the pace, my balls slapping against Strawberry Red's ass with a wet slap. Suddenly, Strawberry Red moaned and I pulled out just as her body shook with orgasm.

She thrust her ass into the air and groaned, her fingernails scratching across the tile wall in ecstasy.

I grabbed Strawberry Red by her hips and began to pull her out of the shower. I wasn't done with her yet. She turned off the shower and headed back to the bedroom. I laid her on her hands and knees on the edge of the bed, her feet hanging off the side. I stood behind her and slid my cock inside of her still recovering pussy. Her insides were still tight from her earlier orgasm, but I soldiered on. I thrust in and out of her in slow and long strokes. I ran my hands up and down Strawberry Red's curves while I picked up the pace. I put one hand on the small of her back to support myself. Strawberry Red is heating up again, her pussy walls becoming slick with her juices. She started to grind her ass against me. I reached out and took hold of her wet hair, pulling her head back slightly as I fucked her.

The way she wriggled against my cock, I was so turned on that I contemplated trying to figure out if she would let me cum inside of her, or at least maybe even shooting my load on her back and enjoy the view. But I thought better of it. I picked up speed, my balls flapped against Strawberry Red's thighs. She shifted upright as I kept fucking her from behind. With my hands still on her hips, I sucked on Strawberry Red's warm neck while she held on to the back of my neck with support.

"Harder," she groaned. I obliged, slipping my cock all the way out of her before I rammed it back inside of her. She shuddered against it. I thrust harder and harder inside of her. I felt the heat from Strawberry Red's ass and pussy and knew it is time. I pulled out as she came again, afraid that the feeling of her orgasm would push me over the edge. Strawberry Red gripped the bed and thrust her ass into the air, her legs and thighs spasming in erotic joy. I stroked my cock to keep it hard while Strawberry Red rolled over and crawled to the edge of the bed. She took my hard cock in her hands and yanked the condom off. She placed the head of my cock in her mouth, running her tongue across the tip.

Strawberry Red sucked on it while her left hand worked up and down my shaft. I closed my eyes and groaned. I put my hand on the top of Strawberry Red's head, running my fingers through her damp hair. She deep-throated my cock and took her mouth all the way down, her tongue reached out and licked my balls. Strawberry Red pulled my member out of her mouth and ran her hand up and down the shaft while she sucked my balls.

I let out groan as she looked up at me, one of my balls still in her mouth."Are you ready to cum?" She asked, stoking my cock faster and faster. I nodded and Strawberry Red pursed her lips of on the head of my cock, sucking it while she worked her hand up and down the shaft. I put both hands on her head and bucked my hips. I moaned and let go, cum shooting out of my cock and in Strawberry Red's mouth. She kept sucking and jerking me until I was dry. She ran her tongue up and down my shaft one final time and I felt my knees almost buckle in delight. Strawberry Red pulled my cock out of her mouth and swallowed his load with ease.

"Excellent," she said with a devilish smile.

I fell on to the bed and breathed deeply. I was wet, sweaty, and exhausted. This is the best I felt in years. Strawberry Red laid down next to me on the bed and we kissed, I tweaked the nipple of her left breast.

"I suppose asking for some anal would be pushing it?" I asked playfully.

"I'm sorry, what was your name again?" Strawberry Red deadpanned. She curled up beside me and placed her hand on my stomach, resting her head on my shoulder. It was time to go. I kissed her forehead and got dressed to leave. I could see Strawberry Red closing her eyes and begin to want to drift to sleep. Her body still had its erotic warmth to it, but she was slowly cooling off. I reached for one of the sheets and covered her body with it. She whispered I will walk you to the door.

Sleep was approaching, but it is certainly a well-earned sleep. All in all, not a bad way to end a date. In my mind, I was already wondering how the next date could top this. She was a great experience.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;1602663]I was going to see zarah before I canceled myself the notel she is staying in is the sycamore in rosélawn with you being from Indiana you are perfect for them to rob this is one of the worst notels in the city and nothing but trouble happens there, also you can pick a girl up at that notel or general area for half that and she probably would have taken you to zarahs room. I'm telling you not hooking up with her was nine times out of ten the best non move you ever made. Not to bad mouth her because I never hooked up with her but the area and the criminal element, along with the uncle presence makes that place a spot for seasoned cincinnatians only.[/QUOTE]I've had a couple run ins with Zarah (Nikki). She's one of the many streetwalkers on RR. The first time I picked her up we agreed to. 3 for half and half. We go back to the sycamore and she has 3 guys in the room that she had to kick out.

We do the first half (which her skills are just ok) , but then realize that neither of us have a rubber. So I ended up having to "take matters into my own hand" and finished up on her chest. I had to push my way through the guys she kicked out of her room to get back to my car.

I saw her a few weeks later and wasn't even on the lookout. Just stopped at a red light and she saw me and came running up to the car. She had a huge black eye and said she needed a ride down the road. So I took her to the store and she claimed that she was involved in a robbery and got elbowed in the eye.

I've seen her many times since walking RR but have kept my distance. I think seeing this girl will eventually lead to trouble.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;1602663]I was going to see zarah before I canceled myself the notel she is staying in is the sycamore in rosélawn with you being from Indiana you are perfect for them to rob this is one of the worst notels in the city and nothing but trouble happens there, also you can pick a girl up at that notel or general area for half that and she probably would have taken you to zarahs room. I'm telling you not hooking up with her was nine times out of ten the best non move you ever made. Not to bad mouth her because I never hooked up with her but the area and the criminal element, along with the uncle presence makes that place a spot for seasoned cincinnatians only.[/QUOTE]I am sorry my charger is not working hun and 2 why be so rude other guy Iam willing to publicly take due critism but why be a an a, all I can say I will make it up to you.

What ever it takes.

Any black Friday discounts out there anyone heard?

[QUOTE=Zarah; 1602811]I am sorry my charger is not working hun and 2 why be so rude other guy Iam willing to publicly take due critism but why be a an a, all I can say I will make it up to you.

What ever it takes.[/QUOTE]Zarah: Good move of you to come on and post the circumstances and that you will make it up to the fellow who experienced the let down. Hopefully he will take you up on the offer and all will be well.

To others who are critical of Z: Let's face it fellows, some of these gals do live a rather touch and go situation, whether financially, living arrangement or other circumstances. It might be best to be a bit forgiving when things don't go seamlessly as desired, due to issues that are sometimes unmanageable for some of these providers. Criticism and public flogging doesn't accomplish anything for them and best if left unsaid or unwritten. For the most part these gals do the best that they can and do provide stellar service way more times than not. [I guess I am feeling rather forgiving on a day meant for givng thanks] For those that I've met and enjoyed your company and bountiful offerings, let me say thanks and hoping you are doing well on the holiday weekend.

[QUOTE=HotSquirt;1602715]Please you guys don't even know what happend and you wasnt in my shoes to see what happend. This guy came in demanding throwing my hands back, stunk very bad. And everything I didn't like how he was treating me and my time so he said I don't like your attitude so I said I don't like you and told him to get out. Who cares?[/QUOTE]F U *****, keep my money!

Guys, avoid her. Her pics are old, she is nothing like the pics!

[QUOTE=JakeJay83; 1603452]F U, keep my money!

Guys, avoid her. Her pics are old, she is nothing like the pics![/QUOTE]I saw here lately and have to agree. Text me multiple times asking me to come over. I finally did when I got there she gave me about 1min of oral then started freaking out saying her baby's daddy was dropping off the kids. Complete buzz kill. Then said I will make it up to you w / and the next cpl of days. Like an idiot I gave her money and took her at her word. Obviously she did not follow through. I also agree her pics are way outdated. If it was here that was from some time ago she is much heavier now! So obviously I will not be repeating of course obviously I know some of you have had good visits so YMMV. I had a visit with her sister dk if she is still providing but I would def recommend her much better time.

Should have started, Dear Penthouse.

[QUOTE=MattieFromCinc; 1602749]She opened the door to my apartment and was led by Strawberry Red inside.

"Do you want something to drink?" she asked said in a slight southern accent as I walked towards the kitchen."No thanks," I say. Strawberry Red is relatively new in town, although luck and good fortune she is respected friend of afriend. Strawberry Red's friends with a very special lady I have come to know and and enjoy. I started texting her and was glad to get a chance to know her before visiting her.

With each passing text, we had gotten more and more intimate. I decided a dine, some wine and 69 was in order. Finally I got my nerve up to ask for details and had invited been back to her place. The implications behind the invitation were implied. I hope. Strawberry Red is the first girl I had been out with on a real date since my bad break up six months ago. I wanted to enjoy her company and her sexually. I liked her, and I wanted to do this right. As much as I would like to get serviced, it is more important to do it at speed she would be comfortable with. I felt a solid connection with her and I wanted to go further with it. Risky to try to be any more than a lick, but I wanted to try to learn her and find out her story she was nervous I could tell. I came back to the living room and sat down on the couch beside Strawberry Red. She has strawberry blonde red, shoulder length hair and beautiful blue eyes. She was wearing a black tank top, blue jeans, and black flip-flops. The tank top accentuated the cleavage of her voluptuous and creamy white breasts. We talked for a few minutes about our date, how she had gotten crab legs that had tasted like they were three weeks old, and how my steak was so rare it mooed when I poked it.

"So," Strawberry Red said after a prolonged silence."What do we do with the rest of the right."

"We can always do one of my favorite activities," I said with a smirk."It involves two people doing some jumping." "I can guess," she said with a wink. 'Checkers," I replied."I guessed wrong." We both laughed and that is when I made my move, kissing Strawberry Red on the lips as she laughed. I put my hand on her jaw as I slipped my tongue into her mouth. We massaged tongues and I pulled away from her.

"We can always save the checkers for later," she said, reaching out and kissing me.

Five minutes later, we were both in the bedroom, standing up and kissing. I had stripped down to my boxers while Strawberry Red is in a black bra that barely contained her tits, and a pair of boy shorts that were driving me wild. I held both her ass cheeks as I kissed her neck.

I wrapped my arms around Strawberry Red's waist and reached in for another kiss. As we both kissed and explored each other's mouths, I could feel heat radiating from Strawberry Red's panties. It felt so good, just the thought of it was getting me hard. While we continued to kiss, my hands traveled upward to Strawberry Red's back and her bra. I unsnapped it with a simple tug to the clasp. Strawberry Red broke the kiss and let the top slide off her shoulders and to the floor, exposing her breasts to me. They lived up the hype. There is hardly any sagging to them, the small areolae were topped off with pink nipples that were poking upwards like tiny pebbles. I kissed and sucked on Strawberry Red's neck while my left hand firmly held her left breast. I stroked her nipple until it is hard.

"Bed," she breathed out. I complied, falling back on to my bed with her. Our hands explored each other's bodies, her hands rubbing my shoulders while I played with her marvelous breasts. Strawberry Red reached out and took my right hand, guiding it down south. I felt the warmth and wetness from her crotch as I slipped my hand into her underwear. There is a light stubble of pubic hair on my fingertips as I slid a finger inside her. She moaned and broke away from me.

"Wait," she said."You've got protection, right?"

"Yeah," I said, pulling away and reaching into pocket. I pulled a condom out and handed it to Strawberry Red. She opened it and with one hand, slid my boxers off to free my hardened cock."I don't care about foreplay or teasing right now," Strawberry Red said, stroking my cock with one hand."I just need to be fucked,"

She slid the rubber on to my hard cock and stroked it a few times to secure it. She slid upwards and navigated on top of me. Strawberry Red leaned down and kissed me as she situated my cock just on the outside of her wet opening. Both Strawberry Red and I let out a groan as she slid on top of me, my member impaling her. Strawberry Red began to ride me slowly, guiding my erection in and out of her at a steady pace. I placed my hands on her hip and leaned head back on the pillow to look up at her. Her strawberry blonde red hair gently swayed to the rhythm she set and her bright blue eyes. I tilted my head back and let a soft moan escape from my lips. It felt so good to be inside of her, even with a condom, and I wasn't sure how long I could last. I moved my hands off Strawberry Red's hips and cupped her breast, stroking and teasing her nipples with my fingers. She began to pick up speed. As Strawberry Red quickened her pace, I added to it by thrusting upwards in rhythm. The extra depth set shockwaves of pleasure through my body. Strawberry Red pulled my hand away from her left breast and started to tweak the nipple with her own hand."Strawberry Red," I murmured. I could feel myself approaching orgasm. My dick start to throb and thicken, a sure sign the end is nigh. I began to buck my hips hard against the back of Strawberry Red's thighs."I'm close." Strawberry Red placed both hands on the headboard of the bed. She used the leverage to thrust down hard on my cock. The power of her thrusts drove me against the headboard. I pushed myself up off the pillow and buried my face into Strawberry Red's tits. I held on hard to her hips and placed my mouth on the nipple of her right breast. I nibbled and sucked on it with my tongue. Strawberry Red let out a long moan and ran her fingers through my hair. She thrust harder and harder against me. I felt a tingle running through my testicles. I pulled away from Strawberry Red's chest and planted my lips on hers. Our tongues darted in and out of each other's mouths. Strawberry Red broke the kiss and locked eyes with me."Here I come," she said in a sultry sexy voice. I kissed and sucked on Strawberry Red's neck as her thrusts reached their climax.

Strawberry Red let out a loud moan and it pushed me over the edge. A wave of pleasure overcame me as I came. My cock twitched, sending out a rope of cum that the condom caught. Just a second later, I felt the walls of Strawberry Red's pussy contract around my member. Strawberry Red let out a gasp and stopped thrusting, her thighs shook and spasmed against mine. She gabbed the back of my head and shoved her lips against mine, kissing me deeply. More ropes shot out while Strawberry Red's insides milked me for all I was worth.

When I was done, I fell back on the bed and breathed heavily. Strawberry Red pulled me out of her and climbed off of me. She fell beside me as I ripped the condom off and tossed it in the trashcan beside my bed. Our bodies were covered in sweat, our faces red and flushed. Strawberry Red put her arm on my chest, her head on my shoulder."God," she breathed."I needed that."

"So, I rocked your world?" "I wouldn't go so far as to say that. You were. Adequate."

"Adequate? Well, considering what some women have said about me in the past, I'll take that."

We rested for several minutes, in the afterglow of orgasm. I kissed Strawberry Red on the top of her head to get her attention."Seeing as how it's been awhile for both of me, would another go be out of the question?"

Strawberry Red looked at me with a contemplative look before smirking."Again," she whispered into my ear."This time, do better than adequate."

Strawberry Red nibbled on my earlobe and kissed my chest. I turned my head and watched as she navigated south, kissing my stomach before she handled my slowly stiffening penis. She gently blew on it before she ran her tongue across the head. Without warning, she placed my cock in her mouth and went to work. I looked down and watched her head bobbing up and down. While inside her mouth, she rolled her tongue around my member and slowly licked the shaft. I placed my hand on the top of Strawberry Red's head and guided her pace. She brought one of her hands up to my balls and tickled them. Strawberry Red pulled my cock from her mouth and wrapped her sweet young breasts around it. I slid up and down her breasts with ease. I let out a soft moan as I titty fucked Strawberry Red.

"If you make me cum first this time," she calmly said,"I'll let you come anywhere you want."

Knowing a challenge when I heard one, I sat up and leaned over to the nightstand. I pulled a new condom from my pants and ripped it open. A few seconds later, I had it on my cock and watched Strawberry Red. She picked herself up and started to squat over my member when I held out a hand.

"Let me on top this time."

"Fine."

Strawberry Red laid back down on the bed and crawled up to me. We kissed deeply, our tongues probing each others mouths. I broke the kiss, pulling away from Strawberry Red as she playfully bit my lip. I positioned myself on top of Strawberry Red and spread her legs apart. I teased the opening of her slick pussy with my penis head. Strawberry Red moaned and reached down to grab my cock. She eased me into her, slowly filling her all the way up with my cock. She put her legs on my shoulders as I began to thrust against her. I placed my hands on her tits and began to massage them, stroking the nipples as I slid in and out of her.

Strawberry Red groaned and her left foot hit me in the back of the head as she slid her legs down and tightly wrapped them around my waist. I grabbed the bed sheet on both sides of Strawberry Red's head for leverage, thrusting against the increased resistance she is creating.

Strawberry Red grabbed my left wrist and took my hand, sticking my index finger in her mouth and sucking on it. I looked down and nearly came at what I saw. I was balls deep inside Strawberry Red's wet slit while her breasts rocked to my pace. Her beautiful red hair framed her face perfectly and she had a mischievous look on her face while she sucked on my finger.

I picked up the pace, pulling my hand away from Strawberry Red's mouth and reaching down to stroke her clit with it. She arched her back and her breast heaved as she gasped."I'm close, I'm almost there. Don't stop, here I cum!"

Strawberry Red squeezed her legs harder and I gave it one final thrust inside her of. She contracted around my cock and her hands grabbed my shoulders as she came. I pulled out to keep from cumming I slid himself up Strawberry Red's body and called my shot.

"I'm going to cum on your tits."

Strawberry Red squeezed her breasts together as I rubbed my cock against her tits. I ripped the condom off and tossed it over my shoulder as my twitching cock wedged itself in between the valley Strawberry Red's tits had created. I thrust for a few seconds before I let out a long groan. Cum exploded out of my cock and covered her creamy white tits in my milky cum. I pumped my hips in the air and shot another rope, this one striking Strawberry Red's neck and chin. Strawberry Red took my cock in her hands, working it up and down and milking the extra cum from my cock and on to her tits. When she is done, I fell back and landed by the foot of her bed. I reached over and stroked Strawberry Red's legs.

"How is that," I gasped."Better?"

"Much," Strawberry Red replied. She wiped the cum from her neck and licked it from her hand."That is satisfactory."

"Thank you," he replied.

"I wonder, if you could go for 'excellent'?"

"Again?" I asked, incredulously."I know it's been a few months since I got some, but I don't know if I can go again."

"Fine," Strawberry Red said with a disappointed tone in her voice."I believe I'll have a shower."

She picked herself off the bed and padded to the bathroom. I watched her going, her hips swaying. I heard the shower kick on and Strawberry Red step in. A few moments later, I began to hear Strawberry Red's moans from the shower. I knew what she is trying to do. I looked down at my semi-hard erection and saw it is working. Cursing, I picked my tired ass up off the bed and reached back into my pants for another condom. I opened the wrapper and followed Strawberry Red into the shower. The curtain is open and Strawberry Red is soaking wet, her legs slightly parted and a finger inside of her pussy.

"Took you long enough," she said. I took a few moments to put the condom on and then stepped into the shower when she was done. We shared a kiss, the hot water soaking my body. I took Strawberry Red by the hips and turned her around to face the wall. I entered her from behind and began to thrust. Strawberry Red put her hands against the wall while I reached around and put my right hand on Strawberry Red's crotch and stuck a finger inside. I slowly fucked her from behind while I stroked and tweaked her clit. Strawberry Red moaned and began to thrust her ass backwards against my cock.

She looked back at me and smirked."Make me cum this time and I'll let you cum in my mouth." I leaned forward and kissed her deeply. Strawberry Red broke the kiss and leaned forward against the wall, her ass grinding against my cock. Steam is rising off our bodies as the hot water hit it. I picked up the pace, my balls slapping against Strawberry Red's ass with a wet slap. Suddenly, Strawberry Red moaned and I pulled out just as her body shook with orgasm.

She thrust her ass into the air and groaned, her fingernails scratching across the tile wall in ecstasy.

I grabbed Strawberry Red by her hips and began to pull her out of the shower. I wasn't done with her yet. She turned off the shower and headed back to the bedroom. I laid her on her hands and knees on the edge of the bed, her feet hanging off the side. I stood behind her and slid my cock inside of her still recovering pussy. Her insides were still tight from her earlier orgasm, but I soldiered on. I thrust in and out of her in slow and long strokes. I ran my hands up and down Strawberry Red's curves while I picked up the pace. I put one hand on the small of her back to support myself. Strawberry Red is heating up again, her pussy walls becoming slick with her juices. She started to grind her ass against me. I reached out and took hold of her wet hair, pulling her head back slightly as I fucked her.

The way she wriggled against my cock, I was so turned on that I contemplated trying to figure out if she would let me cum inside of her, or at least maybe even shooting my load on her back and enjoy the view. But I thought better of it. I picked up speed, my balls flapped against Strawberry Red's thighs. She shifted upright as I kept fucking her from behind. With my hands still on her hips, I sucked on Strawberry Red's warm neck while she held on to the back of my neck with support.

"Harder," she groaned. I obliged, slipping my cock all the way out of her before I rammed it back inside of her. She shuddered against it. I thrust harder and harder inside of her. I felt the heat from Strawberry Red's ass and pussy and knew it is time. I pulled out as she came again, afraid that the feeling of her orgasm would push me over the edge. Strawberry Red gripped the bed and thrust her ass into the air, her legs and thighs spasming in erotic joy. I stroked my cock to keep it hard while Strawberry Red rolled over and crawled to the edge of the bed. She took my hard cock in her hands and yanked the condom off. She placed the head of my cock in her mouth, running her tongue across the tip.

Strawberry Red sucked on it while her left hand worked up and down my shaft. I closed my eyes and groaned. I put my hand on the top of Strawberry Red's head, running my fingers through her damp hair. She deep-throated my cock and took her mouth all the way down, her tongue reached out and licked my balls. Strawberry Red pulled my member out of her mouth and ran her hand up and down the shaft while she sucked my balls.

I let out groan as she looked up at me, one of my balls still in her mouth."Are you ready to cum?" She asked, stoking my cock faster and faster. I nodded and Strawberry Red pursed her lips of on the head of my cock, sucking it while she worked her hand up and down the shaft. I put both hands on her head and bucked my hips. I moaned and let go, cum shooting out of my cock and in Strawberry Red's mouth. She kept sucking and jerking me until I was dry. She ran her tongue up and down my shaft one final time and I felt my knees almost buckle in delight. Strawberry Red pulled my cock out of her mouth and swallowed his load with ease.

"Excellent," she said with a devilish smile.

I fell on to the bed and breathed deeply. I was wet, sweaty, and exhausted. This is the best I felt in years. Strawberry Red laid down next to me on the bed and we kissed, I tweaked the nipple of her left breast.

"I suppose asking for some anal would be pushing it?" I asked playfully.

"I'm sorry, what was your name again?" Strawberry Red deadpanned. She curled up beside me and placed her hand on my stomach, resting her head on my shoulder. It was time to go. I kissed her forehead and got dressed to leave. I could see Strawberry Red closing her eyes and begin to want to drift to sleep. Her body still had its erotic warmth to it, but she was slowly cooling off. I reached for one of the sheets and covered her body with it. She whispered I will walk you to the door.

Sleep was approaching, but it is certainly a well-earned sleep. All in all, not a bad way to end a date. In my mind, I was already wondering how the next date could top this. She was a great experience.[/QUOTE]

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As I scanned the ads on the Escort Ads section, I see there is some new blood on the boards. Nothing wrong with that; more options for the guys, the better for the guys. A little competition might even spur some of the other ladies to pick up their game.

The I read,"Please have 2 references". These are brand new ladies, and they are requesting references. Nothing wrong with that; safety is everyone's concern. But it did make me wonder, if we're giving them our references to vouch for us, who's vouching for them?

After all, I don't know who they are, and my safety and security is just as important as theirs.

Just wondering, that's all.

I am not sure on others however I have only been on this board for little over 2months now and I myself ask for a referemce or two for my safety. I also have clients or other providers who could vouch my safety. It is about keeping all safety I know that so best of luck.

[QUOTE=D Nut; 1603504]As I scanned the ads on the Escort Ads section, I see there is some new blood on the boards. Nothing wrong with that; more options for the guys, the better for the guys. A little competition might even spur some of the other ladies to pick up their game.

The I read,"Please have 2 references". These are brand new ladies, and they are requesting references. Nothing wrong with that; safety is everyone's concern. But it did make me wonder, if we're giving them our references to vouch for us, who's vouching for them?

After all, I don't know who they are, and my safety and security is just as important as theirs.

Just wondering, that's all.[/QUOTE]