Rose is back, refreshed, looking good and extremely effective.
Someone made reference to watching the mirror a while back(as I always RTFF)...."Oh what a heavenly site"! :p
MnV
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Rose is back, refreshed, looking good and extremely effective.
Someone made reference to watching the mirror a while back(as I always RTFF)...."Oh what a heavenly site"! :p
MnV
[QUOTE=Sushi Boy]Lisa was really HOT! she allowed you to touch her breasts, but that was it.
Sense of Europe had a woman there named Luba, not the best looker, but big soft tits, and great tasting pussy.
I miss both of those places, greatly.[/QUOTE]
Luba may be the woman at Sky Spa on Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring.
[QUOTE=Stratwailer]The place was called Eurospa. There was a gorgeous Russian girl named Lisa working there. Took me about 10 visits before I could get her totally naked. Never got more than a handjob. When they closed, she went to a place in Towson. There was a place called Sense of Europe right on Georgia Ave in downtown Silver Spring. Quality of the ladies was not as nice.[/QUOTE]I remember her. I remember the first time I went there, I was so surprised (and excited) that there were Caucasian woman that I didn't mind spending the above average donation. I tried to negotiate FS but was denied but she went topless for extra. The TS was kind of weird too, the "faucet" looked liked one of those restaurant spray nozzles that were used to wash dishes. It always felt like they were clock watches, so I eventually stopped going. Since then I have been on the look out for other "Euro" spas but to no avail.
Was there on Wednesday, had diane, great time, she said she was taking a few days off and will be back.
[QUOTE=Got Wood]Called for her this evening and got the "she gone", not sure mamasan meant for ever or just vacation, didn't ask for clarification. Anyone else get this response?
GW[/QUOTE]
Met Judy at Jasmine earlier today after lunch break. Enjoyable experience. 8 service, 8 looks. Seemed to want to finish up mid-way, but nothing terrible.
Need to try Rose now.
Yeah, it's true in my opinion that S of E doesn't have the best lookers. But what they lack in looks they make up for in great service. I'll have to agree, dining at the Y is pretty good there too.
Went by 14k yesterday, saw Rose. As usual, very professional! I did manage to see another really cute girl on my way out, might ask for her next time. I think that it's the best place I've been. Will repeat! Be safe everyone!
Saw Mimi and 14K yesterday and can confirm Jack Nimble's assessment. She is very sweet and accomodating.
I arrived at the spa and asked the mamasan if Rose was back - but she was busy - so I asked for Mimi even though I had never seen her before.
Mimi arrived and asked how it was that I asked for her - was it the Internet reports? This was just more evidence to me of the prodigious memories these women have who work at the spas! They know if they've seen you before - even if it was years ago - and they know if they haven't seen you. Mimi knew that she hadn't seen me before. Of course I wasn't so sure.
I stammered a liitle when she asked me was it the Internet reports that led me to ask for her - I demured, slightly embarassed because I didn't quite know how she would take it. But apparently she loves the fame! When our session was over she asked if I would post a report about her - of course I said I would - and here it is!
Attitude - 9 - friendly and sweet, Body - 8 mammaries are enhanced, TS - 8 close attention paid to all areas. Repeat? - yes!
The only criticism I have is that the session was over a little bit too quickly. Perhaps that was just because she was so good and I was so excited I was done in a jiffy. I skipped the massage, though it was offered. All in all a very satisfactory session with Mimi - and since it was the first one, it can only get better!
[QUOTE=Rainmancometh]Yeah, it's true in my opinion that S of E doesn't have the best lookers. But what they lack in looks they make up for in great service. I'll have to agree, dining at the Y is pretty good there too.[/QUOTE]Am I missing something?Or does someone have trouble with his tenses?
Well first off I just want to say thanks to all of those senior members who have given such great knowledge on here. I am a long time lurker and first time poster. So I definitely owe a great debt to everyone and thought I would pass along some intel. I went to the landover spa today that posts in the city paper.
Upon arriving I was greeted by the mama and led into the room and told it would be the standard one hour fee. I gave her a Franklin and she left the room which I of course took the time to get comfortable. Now I wait about 5-10 which is weird since they weren't busy that I could see. Well the mama returns and she is your sterotypical short, overweight and old but I am thinking well maybe I can get in good with her and improve relations.
Well after about 5 minutes she starts making playful little passes in the right places and tells me to turn over. She asks me what I want and I told her everything and she quotes me another franklin. And apparently my change which I did not get back was not included in that price. At this point I am thinking no way not for 130 and even the hr she wanted 60 so definitely not going to give them my business again. So buyer beware the prices are going up but I am hoping it is just this one spot. So I hope my first post wasn't to bad but they should get better in time.
I spend most of my time in the OC, but was in town for business. Thought I would look and see what is good and found out that 14k wasn't to far from where I was. I went at around 730p and they were pretty busy. I had to wait for 30 min. While I was waiting the mms came in and did the TS for me. I think because she knew I was waiting. After 10 of waiting after the shower she came in again and started the massage herself. Now, I have to tell you. Her massage was VERY good! She did it for about 15-20 min. And then said that the girl would be right in. A few minutes later, Mimi came in and started a light massage. Was okay. But I was glad I got the other one from the mms. She then asked what I wanted and I asked for a BJ. She waited for the donation then left and came back to start. She started with me on my stomach then continued with me on my back. Lightly touching me all over with her hands. I noticed that she kept looking at the time. Eventually she started with the cbj and eventually finished with a HJ.
Overall, I was very happy with the experience, but wish I would have seen someone else. I am very happy for this site, because when I travel abroad, it really helps in finding out where to go!
Decided on rare occasion to check out one of the Chinese places. I'm used to seeing some pretty ugly girls compared to the babes you find at the Korean massage parlors, which is why I pretty much gave up on Chinese places for the longest time. Imagine my surprise when a slender beauty with a great figure and lovely face (only downside was her small teeth) greeted me.
Into the bedroom we go and after I make the payment, I decline the massage. She does the usual kiss the nipples and starts to go down and grab the condom when I say, "Can you do no condom? "
She holds up two fingers. "Two hundred. "
Now she's pretty good looking so I think, what the hey. I say okay and she asks for the money upfront. I go and get the money from my pants and when I turn around, she's already lying down with her legs spread. What a pleasant surprise, as I was just talking about a BBBJ. I ask her to suck my dick some more and she asks if I'm clean. I nod and she sniffs my nads before giving me a quick blowjob and then encouraging me to fuck her.
She says not to come inside. I ask her if I can kiss me. She sticks her tongue out and wags it around sexily and says another hundred. Now I'm pretty wasteful with my money, but even I have my limits. I decline and after a few strokes, she quickly pulls me out and asks if I came. I shake my head. She's really paranoid, I guess. I fuck her some more and then come on her bed of pussy hair. It's been fifteen minutes and after I shower, it's time for me to go.
The next day, I come back for more. This time, I only give her $140, claiming I don't have more money than that. She's fine with that and this time gives me an extended BBBJ. I fuck her bare pussy in a variety of positions, lasting much longer. I try to kiss her, but she gives no tongue. Oh well. I ask for more BBBJ, so I pull out and lay down as she starts to suck me off. Then I get her to mount on, and after some more fucking, I ask for BBBJ again.
She starts sucking my dick in a nice fashion but looks like she's scared to get cum in her mouth. She keeps switching between hand and mouth. She then goes down again and I use my willpower to spray in her mouth, but as soon as I do, she spits it out and finishes me off with her hand.
Good times.
The next week, I come back, and I'm greeted by an ugly girl. Damn it. I dip out and say I'll come back another day.
I had decided to swear off the Chinese place again, attributing the hot girl to luck, but now I am in a pinch and need a quick fix once again. I stop by and am greeted by an OK looking girl. Not really my style. A little flat faced and big-boned, but not ugly. Has a rack that looks good in the clothes she was wearing.
There were two girls at the time so I ask to see the other one. The second girl is older and not much better looking, and the first girl looks better in the dim lights. She encourages me to try two girls, but I decline and just take the first girl. Off to the bedroom and after the payment, it's the standard routine again. She's very friendly, though. Very talkative and a lot of smiling and laughing.
After what seems like forever, she finally begins to go down and motions if I want condom. Of course, I say, "Can you do no condom? " Then she starts acting all innocent and says, "No. If I do. It means more money. "
[b]Me:[/b] How much?
[b]Her:[/b] How much you pay?
[b]Me:[/b] I dunno, how much is it?
[b]Her:[/b] How much you have?
[b]Me:[/b] I only brought $100.
[b]Her:[/b] OK.
Of course, I was lying, but oh well. I give her the $100 and she gives me some BBBJ. Oddly enough, I'm not in the mood for BBBJ and motion to fuck. She asks, "You want to fuck? " Of course, I nod. She asks if she can use KY. I nod. After lubing herself, she mounts on, no condom. Yes. More BBFS.
I do not last long at all. I ask where I can cum. She starts to act innocently again. I ask if I can cum in her pussy. She says she will have to clean fast. So I ask if I can cum on her face. She is really hesitant, but after a lot of asking, she says not to get it in her hair. I pull out and cum on her cheek as she's turned her had. My dick smells like fish. Damn it.
We wash up and I'm getting ready to go, when she offers a massage. Who am I to refuse? After an extended massage, I sit up and she tells me to come back soon. I ask if I can cum in her pussy. She acts all innocent again talking about babies and whatnot. I keep pressing her. She notices my dick is standing, and she asks, "Right now? "
Now, I've never came twice before, but I wasn't going to decline. She says more money. I lie through my teeth and say I have no more. She thinks about it for a second and then says, OK, but to come fast. Once again, I lie through my teeth and say OK, despite the fact I've never came twice before.
She lubes herself up, and I start fucking her. She gets a paper towel ready and to my surprise, I come in a couple of minutes. Pretty fast. Wash off with a hot towel and I get dressed. She tells me to come back again.
I doubt I will but it was a great time nonetheless. I'm loving barebacking these Chinese girls, but it's definitely a lot harder to find a good looking one compared to a good looking Korean girl.
This is my first post here. I just wanted to also mention that I saw Mimi over the weekend. She's a great girl and really enthusiastic. This was my second trip to 14k. The first time I saw Tammy. Mimi looks way better, about a 9 on my scale and everything else was just how I like it. She wanted people to know how good she is so here it is.
1. Name the place where this happened.
2. NEVER take more than $160 in these places!
3. Always pay exact change for the time - three Jacksons is best.
4. NEVER pay more than five Jacksons for the main event!
5. If you feel like you have been ripped off, IMMEDIATELY tell the manager and she will make it right!
6. Post more details
7. RTFF RTFF RTFF and then RTFF again!
JJ
[QUOTE=Harmankardon]Well first off I just want to say thanks to all of those senior members who have given such great knowledge on here. I am a long time lurker and first time poster. So I definitely owe a great debt to everyone and thought I would pass along some intel. I went to the landover spa today that posts in the city paper.
Upon arriving I was greeted by the mama and led into the room and told it would be the standard one hour fee. I gave her a Franklin and she left the room which I of course took the time to get comfortable. Now I wait about 5-10 which is weird since they weren't busy that I could see. Well the mama returns and she is your sterotypical short, overweight and old but I am thinking well maybe I can get in good with her and improve relations.
Well after about 5 minutes she starts making playful little passes in the right places and tells me to turn over. She asks me what I want and I told her everything and she quotes me another franklin. And apparently my change which I did not get back was not included in that price. At this point I am thinking no way not for 130 and even the hr she wanted 60 so definitely not going to give them my business again. So buyer beware the prices are going up but I am hoping it is just this one spot. So I hope my first post wasn't to bad but they should get better in time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigTime3]Was there on Wednesday, had diane, great time, she said she was taking a few days off and will be back.[/QUOTE]
Yes, thank you, I got the same info after I went there and asked for her in person rather than over the phone. I was told she would be back.
GW
[QUOTE=Harmankardon] So buyer beware the prices are going up but I am hoping it is just this one spot. [/QUOTE]
Is there a reason the massage joints shouldn't be able to raise their prices?
In defense of my people, I have to ask, when you hit up the supermarket and the price of your Wheaties has gone up, do you b*tch to the manager?
I have to laugh at the guys who will pay $4.00 plus for a gallon of gas but will try to beat down the Koreans when they ask for a pay hike. Their expenses are going up too.
I swear to God, most of you guys act like the K-girls are sub-human or something.
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]Is there a reason the massage joints shouldn't be able to raise their prices?
In defense of my people, I have to ask, when you hit up the supermarket and the price of your Wheaties has gone up, do you b*tch to the manager?
I have to laugh at the guys who will pay $4.00 plus for a gallon of gas but will try to beat down the Koreans when they ask for pay hike. Their expenses are going up too.
I swear to God, most of you guys act like the K-girls are sub-human or something.[/QUOTE]
Interesting you say this. What if we froze the wages/salaries of all patrons for 10 years.
[QUOTE=Dr Knob]The only criticism I have is that the session was over a little bit too quickly. Perhaps that was just because she was so good and I was so excited I was done in a jiffy. I skipped the massage, though it was offered. All in all a very satisfactory session with Mimi - and since it was the first one, it can only get better![/QUOTE]I too saw this provider about a week ago. I wouldn't rate her as high as some of the reports I've seen, but all-in-all, it wasn't a bad time. My session was a little quick, as well. Once we proceeded to the main event, the CG action was fast and furious and I couldn't hold back. She was very mechanical and gave me a good pounding from on top. This was a bit of turning the tables I guess, but it definitely got the job done. I was hoping for a little variety, at least some K9, but she was all about being in control.
I saw some great talent strolling around and will try another next time through. There was this one spinner with curly hair and a great rack who I need to meet.
I was downtown today so I decided to stop by 14K. Rose was there but so was a new girl named Sura. I initially thought her name was Sue but she later corrected me. She's only been there 5 days. You can never tell the age of Asian women but I get the feeling she's younger than most of the AMP girls. She's got a very nice body and a pretty face, though with too much makeup.
I paid the standard house fee and she took me for the TS. It was certainly adequate but not very playful. Then back to the room for the massage. She was VERY in to the massage but for whatever reason (lack of technique and/or upper body strength), it was just adequate. But what she lacked in the other two areas, she certainly made up for in the main event. Very enthusiastic and excellent muscle control. Good variety of positions. Overall, I'd put her on par with the other excellent providers at 14K.
Finally, I must note that she had some trouble accomodating me. I'm by no means huge. So to any of the larger guys out there, bear that in mind. I understand that can be an extremely uncomfortable experience for all involved.
There is no intention (from me anyway) to treat these women as sub-human! Especially because of the higher cost of everything I MUST keep my activity expense as low as possible. Were they to raise the rates, instead of gaining the additional money they will lose the $160 from me completely or, at best, the frequency of my donations will be seriously reduced.
I dearly love the Korean women and want only the best for each of them but for them to continue to receive my support as often as they currently do, the prices must stay as they are.
My friend and brother - please THINK before you accuse anyone of abuses! Such accusations are offensive and will not set well with those you accuse.
PEACE!
JJ
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]Is there a reason the massage joints shouldn't be able to raise their prices?
In defense of my people, I have to ask, when you hit up the supermarket and the price of your Wheaties has gone up, do you b*tch to the manager?
I have to laugh at the guys who will pay $4.00 plus for a gallon of gas but will try to beat down the Koreans when they ask for a pay hike. Their expenses are going up too.
I swear to God, most of you guys act like the K-girls are sub-human or something.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sleazebum]There is no intention (from me anyway) to treat these women as sub-human! Especially because of the higher cost of everything I MUST keep my activity expense as low as possible. Were they to raise the rates, instead of gaining the additional money they will lose the $160 from me completely or, at best, the frequency of my donations will be seriously reduced.
I dearly love the Korean women and want only the best for each of them but for them to continue to receive my support as often as they currently do, the prices must stay as they are.
My friend and brother - please THINK before you accuse anyone of abuses! Such accusations are offensive and will not set well with those you accuse.
PEACE!
JJ[/QUOTE]I couldn't care less what sets well with those I accuse.
Do you still put fuel in your vehicles even though the price for that fuel rises? Do you still buy food for your table even though those prices are going up? The higher price of fuel and food does not make that product better, yet you suck it up and pay, yes?
Why shouldn't the massage places and their employees be afforded the same consideration? This is where the "viewing the K-girls as sub-human" comment comes in. Why are they so undeserving?
If you truly want "the best for each of them" as you say, you'll throw them a few extra bucks so they can meet their rising expenses as well.
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]I couldn't care less what sets well with those I accuse.
Do you still put fuel in your vehicles even though the price for that fuel rises? Do you still buy food for your table even though those prices are going up? The higher price of fuel and food does not make that product better, yet you suck it up and pay, yes?
Why shouldn't the massage places and their employees be afforded the same consideration? This is where the "viewing the K-girls as sub-human" comment comes in. Why are they so undeserving?
If you truly want "the best for each of them" as you say, you'll throw them a few extra bucks so they can meet their rising expenses as well.[/QUOTE]Either way AMP is a business, if they end up making more money by raising their rates then they would do so, if not they would keep it constant. If they were to raise the rates, they could loose potential business from such clients as sleazebum and many others. Thus, they end up loosing more money. And if the rates are risen how do we know the money is actually going the girls and not to mms. If they need to raise the rates to stay in business they would do so, if not they will keep it steady. It is all about supply and demand.
But you seem to not understand basic economics.
I will not address this topic any further.
Have fun and be careful!
JJ
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]I couldn't care less what sets well with those I accuse.
Do you still put fuel in your vehicles even though the price for that fuel rises? Do you still buy food for your table even though those prices are going up? The higher price of fuel and food does not make that product better, yet you suck it up and pay, yes?
Why shouldn't the massage places and their employees be afforded the same consideration? This is where the "viewing the K-girls as sub-human" comment comes in. Why are they so undeserving?
If you truly want "the best for each of them" as you say, you'll throw them a few extra bucks so they can meet their rising expenses as well.[/QUOTE]
Basic economics. Goods and services. Pay the price, negotiate, or don't buy the goods or services.
You'll continue to pay what you want. Good for you.
The defense rests, your honor.
[QUOTE=Pilot101]Either way AMP is a business, if they end up making more money by raising their rates then they would do so, if not they would keep it constant. If they were to raise the rates, they could loose potential business from such clients as sleazebum and many others. Thus, they end up loosing more money. And if the rates are risen how do we know the money is actually going the girls and not to mms. If they need to raise the rates to stay in business they would do so, if not they will keep it steady. It is all about supply and demand.[/QUOTE]
No shit, Sherlock.
It just cracks me up when some guy complains about a rate increase these days. God forbid the AMPs see any of that.
As I said on the Providence MP thread: I know this site is all about the guy, so I'll refrain from further comment.
Hi,
I'm not a frequent poster and don't want to get flamed. I'm not looking for specifics on any spa or girl. I would like to where AMPs are advertising in papers other than the Washington Post. I've search the forum and can't find any reference to print advertising for AMPs in DC and the surrounding area with the exception of the Post's sports section. I'm from RI and all the AMPs here advertise in the Phoenix, which can be picked up for free at most book stores and adult video stores.
Thanks,
Frank
[QUOTE=Frank J Rizzo]Hi,
I'm not a frequent poster and don't want to get flamed. I'm not looking for specifics on any spa or girl. I would like to where AMPs are advertising in papers other than the Washington Post. I've search the forum and can't find any reference to print advertising for AMPs in DC and the surrounding area with the exception of the Post's sports section. I'm from RI and all the AMPs here advertise in the Phoenix, which can be picked up for free at most book stores and adult video stores.
Thanks,
Frank[/QUOTE]
In addition to WP try the Washington City Paper.
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]I couldn't care less what sets well with those I accuse.
Do you still put fuel in your vehicles even though the price for that fuel rises? Do you still buy food for your table even though those prices are going up? The higher price of fuel and food does not make that product better, yet you suck it up and pay, yes?
Why shouldn't the massage places and their employees be afforded the same consideration? This is where the "viewing the K-girls as sub-human" comment comes in. Why are they so undeserving?
If you truly want "the best for each of them" as you say, you'll throw them a few extra bucks so they can meet their rising expenses as well.[/QUOTE]
While it is fair for a business to raise prices without any justification, so to is it fair to not frequent said businesses. This hobby is a luxury and not a necessity such as food, drink and gasoline. We have no control over any of these prices, but we can pick and choose where we spend the little money we have left over...if any.
In the drycleaning business, in tight times like these, the frequency that a garment is cleaned is reduced... People wear their shirts 2 times before cleaning as opposed to once-and-done in prosperous times. So, the total that a customer spends in a year is significantly reduced....with or without price increases.
So, if the AMPs raised their prices, they may simply see less clients in a day and most likely be worse off than before the price increase.
The AMP business is very elastic and, as such, the revenues will be affected very quickly by the reduction in clients.
In the drycleaning example, the business could still make more net income than prior to an increase in price because of the variable labor costs. However, in the AMP scenario, the labor doesn't leave because their work is complete... they stay until the closing hour. So, if they raise the prices, their body will be used less, but they still must stay the full time for less money.
That's my $0.02.
Van
Very Basic Economics!
Good explanation!
JJ
[QUOTE=VanDriver]While it is fair for a business to raise prices without any justification, so to is it fair to not frequent said businesses. This hobby is a luxury and not a necessity such as food, drink and gasoline. We have no control over any of these prices, but we can pick and choose where we spend the little money we have left over...if any.
In the drycleaning business, in tight times like these, the frequency that a garment is cleaned is reduced... People wear their shirts 2 times before cleaning as opposed to once-and-done in prosperous times. So, the total that a customer spends in a year is significantly reduced....with or without price increases.
So, if the AMPs raised their prices, they may simply see less clients in a day and most likely be worse off than before the price increase.
The AMP business is very elastic and, as such, the revenues will be affected very quickly by the reduction in clients.
In the drycleaning example, the business could still make more net income than prior to an increase in price because of the variable labor costs. However, in the AMP scenario, the labor doesn't leave because their work is complete... they stay until the closing hour. So, if they raise the prices, their body will be used less, but they still must stay the full time for less money.
That's my $0.02.
Van[/QUOTE]
In economics, we don't characterize businesses as elastic or inelastic. We speak of elasticity with regard to the demand and/or supply curve. What is being postulated in recent postings here is that the demand curve for the services that AMPs provide is highly elastic. If the demand curve for AMP services were truly elastic, it would mean that a relatively small increase in the cost of those services would result in a relatively large decrease in the quantity of those services demanded.
However we need to keep in mind that there are normally three factors which influence price elasticity of demand for a particular good or service.
The first and perhaps most influential factor which influences demand price elasticity is the availability of substitutes. The classic example given to explain this is that if the price of coffee were to go up, people could switch to tea. So in this instance the demand curve for coffee would be characterized as elastic. However with AMP services, there are few if any substitutes for what is available at an AMP, unless you are the kind of guy who likes SW's or escorts, which I maintain is not the case for most AMP afficianados.
The second factor which is important in determining the elasticity of demand for a good or service is the amount of income available to spend on it. This must be considered in relation to the increase in the cost of that good or service. I maintain that for the average AMP-goer, an increase of say $20 or even $40 per visit is a negligible increase and will likely not cause consumers to reduce their demand for this service.
The third factor in determining demand elasticity is time. For example, if the price of petroleum products were to rise, in the long run, people could moderate their demand for the product by buying more fuel-efficient cars, driving less, car-pooling, etc. But they could not do this overnight. I maintain that with respect to the AMP industry, time does not serve to make the demand curve elastic.
QED, the demand curve for AMP services is not highly elastic.
LexLuther
John Kenneth Galbraith.
Clean out your in box, I tried to PM you.
Be careful SH. People on this board may be confused by your humor. :)
LexLuther
I don't think so. Everyone is very astute.
Lex,
That is an outstanding post, accurate and eloquent.
[QUOTE=LexLuther]In economics, we don't characterize businesses as elastic or inelastic. We speak of elasticity with regard to the demand and/or supply curve. What is being postulated in recent postings here is that the demand curve for the services that AMPs provide is highly elastic. If the demand curve for AMP services were truly elastic, it would mean that a relatively small increase in the cost of those services would result in a relatively large decrease in the quantity of those services demanded.
However we need to keep in mind that there are normally three factors which influence price elasticity of demand for a particular good or service.
The first and perhaps most influential factor which influences demand price elasticity is the availability of substitutes. The classic example given to explain this is that if the price of coffee were to go up, people could switch to tea. So in this instance the demand curve for coffee would be characterized as elastic. However with AMP services, there are few if any substitutes for what is available at an AMP, unless you are the kind of guy who likes SW's or escorts, which I maintain is not the case for most AMP afficianados.
The second factor which is important in determining the elasticity of demand for a good or service is the amount of income available to spend on it. This must be considered in relation to the increase in the cost of that good or service. I maintain that for the average AMP-goer, an increase of say $20 or even $40 per visit is a negligible increase and will likely not cause consumers to reduce their demand for this service.
The third factor in determining demand elasticity is time. For example, if the price of petroleum products were to rise, in the long run, people could moderate their demand for the product by buying more fuel-efficient cars, driving less, car-pooling, etc. But they could not do this overnight. I maintain that with respect to the AMP industry, time does not serve to make the demand curve elastic.
QED, the demand curve for AMP services is not highly elastic.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
Very good explanation and I bow to your Economic ferver. However, my alternative to the 2nd factor is porn... It's cheaper, more varietal and I can choose my style!
But, I will say that your explanation trumps mine!
Van
But still wrong...
Now, assume I have $160 per month to dedicate to these activities and I do so once per month. That means I have 12X160 or $1,920 per year for all this and I provide these girls with income from me 12 times.
SO - they raise the price just $20, which you say is no big deal. Now my $1,920 must be divided by 180 which comes out to be just 10 and two thirds sessions per year.
Since that is not really acceptable to me, I would be hitting up the available action of CL which will take care of me for $150 or less and then I will be able to take care of business 12.8 times per year or more and the AMP girls will LOSE that $1,920.
In truth, I would be doing some of each to cure my itch but STILL the AMP would LOSE whatever money I spend on the CL trade.
Comparing this to gas for the car of food for the kitchen is simply piss poor thinking because, if need be, I can take care of the itch manually and not spend ANY cash and I CANNOT take care of the gas for the car or the food for the kitchen on my own.
THAT is the fact of life in this case and in this arena. ANYTHING else is just so much head noise (or keyboard clicking) and not worth the time spent doing so.
Peace!
JJ
[QUOTE=LexLuther]In economics, we don't characterize businesses as elastic or inelastic. We speak of elasticity with regard to the demand and/or supply curve. What is being postulated in recent postings here is that the demand curve for the services that AMPs provide is highly elastic. If the demand curve for AMP services were truly elastic, it would mean that a relatively small increase in the cost of those services would result in a relatively large decrease in the quantity of those services demanded.
However we need to keep in mind that there are normally three factors which influence price elasticity of demand for a particular good or service.
The first and perhaps most influential factor which influences demand price elasticity is the availability of substitutes. The classic example given to explain this is that if the price of coffee were to go up, people could switch to tea. So in this instance the demand curve for coffee would be characterized as elastic. However with AMP services, there are few if any substitutes for what is available at an AMP, unless you are the kind of guy who likes SW's or escorts, which I maintain is not the case for most AMP afficianados.
The second factor which is important in determining the elasticity of demand for a good or service is the amount of income available to spend on it. This must be considered in relation to the increase in the cost of that good or service. I maintain that for the average AMP-goer, an increase of say $20 or even $40 per visit is a negligible increase and will likely not cause consumers to reduce their demand for this service.
The third factor in determining demand elasticity is time. For example, if the price of petroleum products were to rise, in the long run, people could moderate their demand for the product by buying more fuel-efficient cars, driving less, car-pooling, etc. But they could not do this overnight. I maintain that with respect to the AMP industry, time does not serve to make the demand curve elastic.
QED, the demand curve for AMP services is not highly elastic.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
JJ,
I've got two points for you to consider.
I don't know if you've ever actually used any of the gals who advertise on CL. I look at CL myself from time to time. Mostly because I enjoy looking at some of the pictures included in some of the ads. But I've discovered something important about CL. That is that the vast majority of ads there are bogus and intended not to offer an opportunity for guys like you and me to get their rocks off, but for the sole purpose of parting them from their money. I won't go into the details of that here, but if you have ever called any of the girls from CL, I'm sure I don't have to explain it to you because you would know that already. That's the first point.
The second point has to do with the fact that your posts and mine are found in the Massage Parlor forum. Not in the Streetwalker forum or the CL Reviews forum, but in the Massage Parlor forum. Therefore I think it's safe to assume that you are (just as I am) a dedicated Massage Parlor goer. Believe it or not, there are people in this world who would not dream of paying for sex. Many of them, if they don't have an SO from which they get their jollies, will (as you suggest) "take care of their own problems." There are those who don't have a problem paying for it but prefer street walkers. There are those who prefer going to strip clubs. But it is my firm belief that once a man develops the AMP habit, nothing else is going to prove a suitable substitute.
I believe that such people (present company included) have something approaching an addiction. We are going to go to AMPs regardless of what it costs. I don't believe that men such as you or I actually have a fixed budget for such activities. I know that whenever I get the fever, I'm going to my closest or most favorite AMP, whether it costs $160 or $220. Now you may very well be the rare exception. But as they say, the exception proves the rule.
However if the price did go from $160 to $220, that's an increase of about $2.00 per day. You could save that by buying your coffee at Dunking Donuts instead of Starbucks. Or if you smoke, you could quit. If you did so and had previously smoked a pack a day, you'd improve your health and have almost enough money for two AMP visits per month.
But if you prefer to beat your own dick rather than visiting AMPs, go for it. But I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't think that an increase of a few dollars is going to seriously cut into the demand for AMP services. There may be a lot of things that you and I and others may wish for. I, for one, wish that gas were cheaper. I wish that AMPs were legal, which would certainly reduce the cost of an AMP visit. Hell, I sometimes wish that piss were beer. But wishing cannot make it so. Most people's salaries increase a bit each year, if only to account for inflation. So even if you do have a budget of close to $2K per year for your AMP activities, your yearly increase should more than cover an increased cost for a typical AMP visit.
LexLuther
Hey guys, i believe like everyting else prices have increased.
however what it upsets me the most is when I call to the provider who shows a bueatiful girl's picture and when she arrives it is somebody else but the girl in the pic. Thats why I rather go to the AMP locations.
But at least i know i will be pampered.
Good luck.
And now back to the story.
Visited 14K this morning and asked for Rose. Busy at 1015. Which one of you did it?
Anyhow, met a new beauty named Vivi (Had trouble with the name: Bebe, Bibi. She said " Vivi, like Vivian".) Very nice.
Real 36-; pretty round face; nice figure; about 5'4"; beautiful mid-back length raven black hair; round rear; huge sensitive nips (She even commented on "too big".); friendly and excellent English. Says she is 26 (probably close to real). Has been in US for 3 years, but new to DC. She said I was her first DC customer. Just in from NYC last night. Confirmed by Hostess.
All in all, very nice. Not the manual skills of Mimi, but extremely capable. Those nips sure feel good rubbing about! Let me bring her to real O. 2x. Love it!
Face 8; technique 8; body 8. I will repeat.
Be Safe,
Rx