Agency Discussion and Reviews

Or is this only with MP?

CIM, yeah but COF?

I believe GFE is BBFS, CFS, CIM and in some circumstance 2 pop allowed for the hour.

Atleast in the K-agencies I have been to.

[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6376325]I loves how different mongers bewhite knights to assholes. LOL. Even though laws is not exactly what agencies and talent lives by, we do kind of have contract.

We all have different approaches to the "ladies" . (LOL) I not be looking for a girlfriend when I go to a 30 minute fuck session. I want fucktoy within the perimeters of the services purchased. My fucktoys, and what I ask them be within the perimeters of mainstream porn. The last thing I want do is "make love" to some stranger. I'm sure the gals feel exactly the same way, or theys got a daddy problem or something. I want a good fuck with COF / CIM pornstar finish. They want cash. That's basic contract.

These agencies is getting paid 6-10 dollars a minute. They lie about product. We comes to accept this false advertising. If this be a legal game, they wouldn't get away with it. If you've been to Berlin brothel you know what I mean.

The base standard for these NOVA joints is BBBJ, COF, CIM, CFS, and getting time you paid for. Upgrades available for bareback and anal with many gals. And, we be more or less the boss under these terms. The gals need to respect their boss and fantasies within these terms. Take cock like a champ, and takes the money and run.

I tell the gals what I wants upfront. If theys not want to play porn star fucktoy games with me, I be willing to walk, despite my time loss. When I start to walk in past, they be begging me to come back. One time even grab me round the legs to get me to stay and pay. Again, they is in it for the cash, plain and simple. Sometimes they be lazy con. Sometimes they be plain worn out from fucking 20 guys a day for weeks. Maybe they play "me not understand" games. These not my problems, but theirs and their agencies. But they know how to count the cash. One times I left 10 dollar less cause that's what I paid them before. They call my cell and make me come back. LOL.

They also always be watching clock some way. Maybe uncle do it. At 6-10 dollar a minute, don't whack us on the time. At least they can honor that part of contracts.[/QUOTE]

What is the best time / day to secure a visit? I live in the boonies, and want to make sure I plan my trip into the area when I will have the most success. Morning, afternoon, evening? Weekday vs weekend?

I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.

Review:

Saw Camila from Elite in Tysons. I had used the agency before in the past with mixed results, but was in the mood for some Latina blood so I drew Camila. She is the girl in the picture, but a good amount more curvyier. Pretty face with alot of makeup and she wears perfume so be advised. I met her at an ok hotel in Tysons. She greeted me at the door and I had almost fallen up the stairs so I made a funny joke to break the ice. No kiss or even hug but I just brushed that off to me joking. She speaks English well, and we talked about where she is from and where I am from etc. She was not really being very. Inviting so I asked if she wanted me to take a shower, even though I had just taken one prior to coming. She said no, and that there were not any towels anyways. I proceeded to get comfortable and she was close to me but still not getting the hint. I started kissing on her while she was standing, and complimenting her curves (I LIKE curvy girls, and for me it was good, but again more curvy than the pics for sure). She started getting comfortable, but still no kissing, and she asked me to lay down. She started some BBJ and it was good. Lots of eye contact and mouth usage. I was getting close to blowing as I don't get alot of these activities recently so she asked if I wanted to go fast or slow. I said I would like to try for two cups today and she giggled. She found a cover and applied it and mounted me for some CG. It felt great. I found her very attractive and it was VERY hard to stop myself. So I blew fairly quickly. She then helped clean me off.

Now we were only like 20 minutes in. But here is where it went downhill. She grabbed a nightgown and put it on and laid next to me on her side. We chit chatted and laughed for a good 10 minutes and I felt like she was really enjoying herself. I then started to make it clear that I was ready to go again. I kissed her on her body. Not really any response. So I kept kissing on her. Rubbing on her and massaging her. From her legs up to her torso. Still nothing. No opening up or even really acknowledging it. She just kept trying to talk and ask me questions. Now look I'm not a hunk but I'm mid 30's and in decent shape and don't think I'm exactly a dog. I'm probably at least a 5 to 6 here on the conservatives side as I have pulled free hot chicks in the recent past so I have some game here. She just would not open up at all. I even tried kissing the LITTLE bit of exposed breast she had. Nothing. After about 15 minutes I got up and said fine. I jumped in the shower to wash off her perfume and made it very clear I was not happy. I even asked her. I said what is the issue here? Do you just not respect nice guys? Her response is "I don't know why your leaving early". I left with 15 minutes still on the clock and messaged the bookers. Now I know that they are going to take the girls side. I'm not a huge client with them but I may have ended up being one as I have the resources to do this fairly often. They responded by saying that she's never had issues in the past and "Always" provides two cups. Wow. $$ down the drain. I could have hit a Latina Crap Shot 4 times for a short stay to get the same effect, and probably had just about the same experience.

[URL]https://elitemodels.es/treepage.php?id_staff=162[/URL]

L:7 B:7 A:4.

Rant:

I'm not asking for any harm to come to anyone, but if any of you are set on seeing her anyways. Can you do me a favor and make sure you get yours? Show her what an asshole can be like for me. Because she CLEARLY does not respect kind, gentle and romantic guys. Again Not wishing harm. She just needs to realize what an asshole can be like. I've had plenty of Latinas and I've warmed them up many times. Granted some have zero respect for kind people so I get it. But she clearly took advantage of me, and so did the agency.

First time scheduling with this agency and it may be the last. Apparently I am striking out with Latinas here in NOVA. Guess I should just save up and keep it for Mexico.

Ariana. Set some time up to see her as the price was good and the reviews on here were great. She was exactly what I wanted service wise. Arrived at the location in Tysons about 15 mins early and was told to wait (totally understand). About five minutes before the scheduled time I was given the room number. Which was a great sign to me. I went up to the room and the door opened. Behind it was an independent that I had seen a few weeks prior: ALEXA: [URL]https://alexalatinbeauty1.wixsite.com/mysite/my-gallery[/URL] Talk about akward LOL. Never had that happen to me before. She recognized me and said "oh hey!" I had an ok experience with her. But at a cheaper price point LOL! She asked if I wanted to stay and I decided not too. She was nice and all that but it was CBJ and only one pop with her as an independent and I really needed to get drained today. I was contacted by the agency and asked what happened. I apologized but explained. I was informed two other options were available but that they were at a much higher hourly rate. I said lets go for it and booked Alice. Showed up to the location, waited at the door. No answer. Let about 5 minutes go by and I could hear a woman behind the door talking about a tall white guy. WHICH I AM so I decided to leave. Wish I would have been able to see her as she looked hot but I just took it as Karma for the day.

Secret Motion: https://www.secretemotionsescorts.com/

I think its time to take a break from the hobby. Just having really crappy luck lately. I'm sure its probably my fault to a degree but not all of it is. I think I expect too much. But when your paying good money for an hour of time for a pro. You kinda expect to have at least a good time. Hope you all are having better luck than I am. I think Ill try the Asians again as they are at least consistent.

Hey man. So sorry this happened to you. My past two visits to them have been a '6' service wise when going off the scoring criteria on THE OTHER SITE. Elite is starting to drop the ball. The girls aren't worth the $$$ . 80 / $$ they are charging. That sounds like a very frustrating experience. The girls are starting to consistently be GFE light. Standard practices such as MSOG, BBBJ, and DFK are up to chance now. I had great experiences with a lot of their talent last year. Saw one girl from there 3 times actually. This year there seems to be no standard of service, and that's the exact reason we chose agencies over indies. To mitigate the performance variance that comes with these providers. I'm sticking with hugs and kisses companions and asian agencies for the remainder of the year. Unless a provider on their roster pops up with outstanding reviews.

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.

Review:

Saw Camila from Elite in Tysons. I had used the agency before in the past with mixed results, but was in the mood for some Latina blood so I drew Camila. She is the girl in the picture, but a good amount more curvyier. Pretty face with alot of makeup and she wears perfume so be advised. I met her at an ok hotel in Tysons. She greeted me at the door and I had almost fallen up the stairs so I made a funny joke to break the ice. No kiss or even hug but I just brushed that off to me joking. She speaks English well, and we talked about where she is from and where I am from etc. She was not really being very. Inviting so I asked if she wanted me to take a shower, even though I had just taken one prior to coming. She said no, and that there were not any towels anyways. I proceeded to get comfortable and she was close to me but still not getting the hint. I started kissing on her while she was standing, and complimenting her curves (I LIKE curvy girls, and for me it was good, but again more curvy than the pics for sure). She started getting comfortable, but still no kissing, and she asked me to lay down. She started some BBJ and it was good. Lots of eye contact and mouth usage. I was getting close to blowing as I don't get alot of these activities recently so she asked if I wanted to go fast or slow. I said I would like to try for two cups today and she giggled. She found a cover and applied it and mounted me for some CG. It felt great. I found her very attractive and it was VERY hard to stop myself. So I blew fairly quickly. She then helped clean me off.

Now we were only like 20 minutes in. But here is where it went downhill. She grabbed a nightgown and put it on and laid next to me on her side. We chit chatted and laughed for a good 10 minutes and I felt like she was really enjoying herself. I then started to make it clear that I was ready to go again. I kissed her on her body. Not really any response. So I kept kissing on her. Rubbing on her and massaging her. From her legs up to her torso. Still nothing. No opening up or even really acknowledging it. She just kept trying to talk and ask me questions. Now look I'm not a hunk but I'm mid 30's and in decent shape and don't think I'm exactly a dog. I'm probably at least a 5 to 6 here on the conservatives side as I have pulled free hot chicks in the recent past so I have some game here. She just would not open up at all. I even tried kissing the LITTLE bit of exposed breast she had. Nothing. After about 15 minutes I got up and said fine. I jumped in the shower to wash off her perfume and made it very clear I was not happy. I even asked her. I said what is the issue here? Do you just not respect nice guys? Her response is "I don't know why your leaving early". I left with 15 minutes still on the clock and messaged the bookers. Now I know that they are going to take the girls side. I'm not a huge client with them but I may have ended up being one as I have the resources to do this fairly often. They responded by saying that she's never had issues in the past and "Always" provides two cups. Wow. $$ down the drain. I could have hit a Latina Crap Shot 4 times for a short stay to get the same effect, and probably had just about the same experience.

[URL]https://elitemodels.es/treepage.php?id_staff=162[/URL]

L:7 B:7 A:4.

Rant:

I'm not asking for any harm to come to anyone, but if any of you are set on seeing her anyways. Can you do me a favor and make sure you get yours? Show her what an asshole can be like for me. Because she CLEARLY does not respect kind, gentle and romantic guys. Again Not wishing harm. She just needs to realize what an asshole can be like. I've had plenty of Latinas and I've warmed them up many times. Granted some have zero respect for kind people so I get it. But she clearly took advantage of me, and so did the agency.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Himeros32;6377320]What is the best time / day to secure a visit? I live in the boonies, and want to make sure I plan my trip into the area when I will have the most success. Morning, afternoon, evening? Weekday vs weekend?[/QUOTE]Anytime. It's all based around the girl and what kind of day she is having. She could be fresh in the morning and ready to go or super tired after getting bad sleep. She could be completely hollowed out after a long day of work with rough guys or extra excited after getting teased without a true O. Last call can be a clocking out session but some girls like to put in a last bit of effort before finishing for the day.

IMO, it's not worth worrying about too much since there are a million factors that can make a session go sideways. The only thing you can control is not getting yourself too hyped up for the perfect or optimal experience and just going with the flow.

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.

Review:

Saw Camila from Elite in Tysons. I had used the agency before in the past with mixed results, but was in the mood for some Latina blood so I drew Camila. She is the girl in the picture, but a good amount more curvyier. Pretty face with alot of makeup and she wears perfume so be advised. I met her at an ok hotel in Tysons. She greeted me at the door and I had almost fallen up the stairs so I made a funny joke to break the ice. No kiss or even hug but I just brushed that off to me joking. She speaks English well, and we talked about where she is from and where I am from etc. She was not really being very. Inviting so I asked if she wanted me to take a shower, even though I had just taken one prior to coming. She said no, and that there were not any towels anyways. I proceeded to get comfortable and she was close to me but still not getting the hint. I started kissing on her while she was standing, and complimenting her curves (I LIKE curvy girls, and for me it was good, but again more curvy than the pics for sure). She started getting comfortable, but still no kissing, and she asked me to lay down. She started some BBJ and it was good. Lots of eye contact and mouth usage. I was getting close to blowing as I don't get alot of these activities recently so she asked if I wanted to go fast or slow. I said I would like to try for two cups today and she giggled. She found a cover and applied it and mounted me for some CG. It felt great. I found her very attractive and it was VERY hard to stop myself. So I blew fairly quickly. She then helped clean me off.

Now we were only like 20 minutes in. But here is where it went downhill. She grabbed a nightgown and put it on and laid next to me on her side. We chit chatted and laughed for a good 10 minutes and I felt like she was really enjoying herself. I then started to make it clear that I was ready to go again. I kissed her on her body. Not really any response. So I kept kissing on her. Rubbing on her and massaging her. From her legs up to her torso. Still nothing. No opening up or even really acknowledging it. She just kept trying to talk and ask me questions. Now look I'm not a hunk but I'm mid 30's and in decent shape and don't think I'm exactly a dog. I'm probably at least a 5 to 6 here on the conservatives side as I have pulled free hot chicks in the recent past so I have some game here. She just would not open up at all. I even tried kissing the LITTLE bit of exposed breast she had. Nothing. After about 15 minutes I got up and said fine. I jumped in the shower to wash off her perfume and made it very clear I was not happy. I even asked her. I said what is the issue here? Do you just not respect nice guys? Her response is "I don't know why your leaving early". I left with 15 minutes still on the clock and messaged the bookers. Now I know that they are going to take the girls side. I'm not a huge client with them but I may have ended up being one as I have the resources to do this fairly often. They responded by saying that she's never had issues in the past and "Always" provides two cups. Wow. $$ down the drain. I could have hit a Latina Crap Shot 4 times for a short stay to get the same effect, and probably had just about the same experience.

[URL]https://elitemodels.es/treepage.php?id_staff=162[/URL]

L:7 B:7 A:4.

Rant:

I'm not asking for any harm to come to anyone, but if any of you are set on seeing her anyways. Can you do me a favor and make sure you get yours? Show her what an asshole can be like for me. Because she CLEARLY does not respect kind, gentle and romantic guys. Again Not wishing harm. She just needs to realize what an asshole can be like. I've had plenty of Latinas and I've warmed them up many times. Granted some have zero respect for kind people so I get it. But she clearly took advantage of me, and so did the agency.[/QUOTE]I saw Camila before the price hike for half hour and she's definitely not GFE. She's pretty but her service was clearly not worth 250 and it damn sure isn't worth the 350 elite is charging. I saw Britney in Springfield for 160 for half hour for the same service and she's way hotter than Camila.

[QUOTE=KylerMurray;6377714]Hey man. So sorry this happened to you. My past two visits to them have been a '6' service wise when going off the scoring criteria on THE OTHER SITE. Elite is starting to drop the ball. The girls aren't worth the $$$ . 80 / $$ they are charging. That sounds like a very frustrating experience. The girls are starting to consistently be GFE light. Standard practices such as MSOG, BBBJ, and DFK are up to chance now. I had great experiences with a lot of their talent last year. Saw one girl from there 3 times actually. This year there seems to be no standard of service, and that's the exact reason we chose agencies over indies. To mitigate the performance variance that comes with these providers. I'm sticking with hugs and kisses companions and asian agencies for the remainder of the year. Unless a provider on their roster pops up with outstanding reviews.[/QUOTE]Really appreciate the response (and to others as well). I know its a game here but at these prices we should be getting alot better experiences than we are. It really helps me to know I am not the only one. Not that I WANT you all to be having bad experiences. But if more people know about it than it may cause them to lower the price at the very least. Try to post on the Other Site as well when you can as alot of people including myself use that as a primary research (its free once you post two reviews. Has about a 5 day lag but then you are good as long as you post reviews).

Good time with Becky at Kpop.

Endless long legs & sexy curves with great attitude and performance.

Experienced from the west.

DFK / BBBJ / Rimming / P2 P / CG / RCG / K9/ Mish.

F / B / A / P / Rating.

8/8/9/9/(8/9).

[URL]https://kpopgirls.club/models/vecky/[/URL]

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.

Review:

Saw Camila from Elite in Tysons. I had used the agency before in the past with mixed results, but was in the mood for some Latina blood so I drew Camila. She is the girl in the picture, but a good amount more curvyier. Pretty face with alot of makeup and she wears perfume so be advised. I met her at an ok hotel in Tysons. She greeted me at the door and I had almost fallen up the stairs so I made a funny joke to break the ice. No kiss or even hug but I just brushed that off to me joking. She speaks English well, and we talked about where she is from and where I am from etc. She was not really being very. Inviting so I asked if she wanted me to take a shower, even though I had just taken one prior to coming. She said no, and that there were not any towels anyways. I proceeded to get comfortable and she was close to me but still not getting the hint. I started kissing on her while she was standing, and complimenting her curves (I LIKE curvy girls, and for me it was good, but again more curvy than the pics for sure). She started getting comfortable, but still no kissing, and she asked me to lay down. She started some BBJ and it was good. Lots of eye contact and mouth usage. I was getting close to blowing as I don't get alot of these activities recently so she asked if I wanted to go fast or slow. I said I would like to try for two cups today and she giggled. She found a cover and applied it and mounted me for some CG. It felt great. I found her very attractive and it was VERY hard to stop myself. So I blew fairly quickly. She then helped clean me off.

Now we were only like 20 minutes in. But here is where it went downhill. She grabbed a nightgown and put it on and laid next to me on her side. We chit chatted and laughed for a good 10 minutes and I felt like she was really enjoying herself. I then started to make it clear that I was ready to go again. I kissed her on her body. Not really any response. So I kept kissing on her. Rubbing on her and massaging her. From her legs up to her torso. Still nothing. No opening up or even really acknowledging it. She just kept trying to talk and ask me questions. Now look I'm not a hunk but I'm mid 30's and in decent shape and don't think I'm exactly a dog. I'm probably at least a 5 to 6 here on the conservatives side as I have pulled free hot chicks in the recent past so I have some game here. She just would not open up at all. I even tried kissing the LITTLE bit of exposed breast she had. Nothing. After about 15 minutes I got up and said fine. I jumped in the shower to wash off her perfume and made it very clear I was not happy. I even asked her. I said what is the issue here? Do you just not respect nice guys? Her response is "I don't know why your leaving early". I left with 15 minutes still on the clock and messaged the bookers. Now I know that they are going to take the girls side. I'm not a huge client with them but I may have ended up being one as I have the resources to do this fairly often. They responded by saying that she's never had issues in the past and "Always" provides two cups. Wow. $$ down the drain. I could have hit a Latina Crap Shot 4 times for a short stay to get the same effect, and probably had just about the same experience.

[URL]https://elitemodels.es/treepage.php?id_staff=162[/URL]

L:7 B:7 A:4.

Rant:

I'm not asking for any harm to come to anyone, but if any of you are set on seeing her anyways. Can you do me a favor and make sure you get yours? Show her what an asshole can be like for me. Because she CLEARLY does not respect kind, gentle and romantic guys. Again Not wishing harm. She just needs to realize what an asshole can be like. I've had plenty of Latinas and I've warmed them up many times. Granted some have zero respect for kind people so I get it. But she clearly took advantage of me, and so did the agency.[/QUOTE]

As a veteran in this game, and a serial popper, let me tell you the secret to success for getting a second or third pop out of a seemingly uninterested provider -- just go for it. These hos are skilled in the art of getting the most money for the least amount of work, but one thing that is universally respected among women of all ilks is assertiveness.

Don't beat around the bush, don't appear weak, don't act like they are doing you a favor for providing the service you have paid for, simply go for it. It's not being an asshole, it's being an assertive man claiming stake to what he has paid for. Period. I am not advocating forcing or anything like that, but do go for what you want and act like it is perfectly normal and she will fall in line.

This has worked for me 85% of the time, and almost every single the time the girl is smiling ear to ear when we are done. The 15% of the times it didn't work, I complained to the agency and moved on.

For example, If I come out the bathroom and she has a robe on, I simply gently grab her by the hips, turn her around, untie the robe, grab her breasts then pull her panties down -- she knows what time it is after that and either gets on her knees or gets back in the bed to do her job. Another method is if you are laying down, start to get off the bed and softly grab her by the hand, and she will instinctively let you hold her hand and start to follow you. Motion for her to do what you want after that.

The hottest encounter I had where I initiated multiple pops was years ago with a now defunct DC agency. The girl was pretty new to the business, early / mid 20's, slender and unblemished, and kinda dorky. Her body was perfection, her face was pretty average, but I digress. We made initial chit chat and I can tell she didn't know how to really run a session, and as we were talking when she was mid sentence I didn't take my eyes off of her face but re-positioned myself and removed her thong. I then took her to pound town for a solid 40 min in various positions including some chocking and headlocks thrown in. I can tell she wasn't used to the dominance, but she took it like a champ and was very vocal. I had about 10-12 min left and wanted a 3rd round but could tell she was tapped out. I sat in a chair in the room and started to get myself ready, while she was sitting on the edge of the bed with her panties back on and looking apprehensive. I'm looking her right in her face while I am getting junior to stand at attention, then I motioned her over to me and she obediently rose up and stood before me. I pulled her panties down, put my hand between her legs and told her she was going to get on her knees and finish me off one last time, and if she did a lazy job I was going to put her back on the bed. She did as she was told and took the last load in her mouth. When I was done she gave me a long hug on my way out, I told her she did a good job and was a good girl, and she was beaming as if I gave her a trophy.

Moral of the story: be a man. Don't ask or plead, just go for it. If she really doesn't want to do it, then chalk it up as a lose and don't force it, but the majority of the time she will be down for a man that is taking control of the session he paid for. Take her by the hand and lead her, remove her panties yourself, straight up tell her you what you need her to do next, take the lead. These small, simple motions are appreciated by most providers and will have you leaving happy.

[QUOTE=HellBoyX;6377540]I took a good 24 hours before writing this review so that I could make sure I was not being emotional.[/QUOTE]Elite certainly is dropping the ball. I've been a consistent client with them for years and I've had my fair share of negative experiences, especially lately. A couple of months ago I took my cash and walked out after spending ten minutes with a provider when she made it clear she wasn't offering anything near a GFE experience. I wonder if they actually will ever bring their prices back down to reality or if they'll bring in providers who offer a consistent service.

[QUOTE=Himeros32;6377320]What is the best time / day to secure a visit? I live in the boonies, and want to make sure I plan my trip into the area when I will have the most success. Morning, afternoon, evening? Weekday vs weekend?[/QUOTE]Best time is morning on weekdays. Then avoid the lunchtime crowd. Then again 2-5 pm.

Thanks for taking the time to give some feedback. Ill admit I need to be better about that. I'm just not all that dominate for the most part naturally because for me I have two modes. Nice guy or asshole and I just don't want the asshole to come out unless necessary. With that said, after reading about your experience, its exactly what I want to have. I just got to get the balls to do it, and to learn the appropriate level of assertiveness. With that said I think ill try again (not with Elite LOL) and try to make myself be more assertive.

[QUOTE=Sairento;6378589]As a veteran in this game, and a serial popper, let me tell you the secret to success for getting a second or third pop out of a seemingly uninterested provider -- just go for it. These hos are skilled in the art of getting the most money for the least amount of work, but one thing that is universally respected among women of all ilks is assertiveness.

Don't beat around the bush, don't appear weak, don't act like they are doing you a favor for providing the service you have paid for, simply go for it. It's not being an asshole, it's being an assertive man claiming stake to what he has paid for. Period. I am not advocating forcing or anything like that, but do go for what you want and act like it is perfectly normal and she will fall in line.

This has worked for me 85% of the time, and almost every single the time the girl is smiling ear to ear when we are done. The 15% of the times it didn't work, I complained to the agency and moved on.

For example, If I come out the bathroom and she has a robe on, I simply gently grab her by the hips, turn her around, untie the robe, grab her breasts then pull her panties down -- she knows what time it is after that and either gets on her knees or gets back in the bed to do her job. Another method is if you are laying down, start to get off the bed and softly grab her by the hand, and she will instinctively let you hold her hand and start to follow you. Motion for her to do what you want after that.

The hottest encounter I had where I initiated multiple pops was years ago with a now defunct DC agency. The girl was pretty new to the business, early / mid 20's, slender and unblemished, and kinda dorky. Her body was perfection, her face was pretty average, but I digress. We made initial chit chat and I can tell she didn't know how to really run a session, and as we were talking when she was mid sentence I didn't take my eyes off of her face but re-positioned myself and removed her thong. I then took her to pound town for a solid 40 min in various positions including some chocking and headlocks thrown in. I can tell she wasn't used to the dominance, but she took it like a champ and was very vocal. I had about 10-12 min left and wanted a 3rd round but could tell she was tapped out. I sat in a chair in the room and started to get myself ready, while she was sitting on the edge of the bed with her panties back on and looking apprehensive. I'm looking her right in her face while I am getting junior to stand at attention, then I motioned her over to me and she obediently rose up and stood before me. I pulled her panties down, put my hand between her legs and told her she was going to get on her knees and finish me off one last time, and if she did a lazy job I was going to put her back on the bed. She did as she was told and took the last load in her mouth. When I was done she gave me a long hug on my way out, I told her she did a good job and was a good girl, and she was beaming as if I gave her a trophy.

Moral of the story: be a man. Don't ask or plead, just go for it. If she really doesn't want to do it, then chalk it up as a lose and don't force it, but the majority of the time she will be down for a man that is taking control of the session he paid for. Take her by the hand and lead her, remove her panties yourself, straight up tell her you what you need her to do next, take the lead. These small, simple motions are appreciated by most providers and will have you leaving happy.[/QUOTE]

I will be in town on the 31st and April1. I have been to Kpop in the past. So I go to their website to see who is going be available. No one during these days. I then text the handler ask who will be around. I was told "we are moving locations nearby so closing for a few days" Can you tell me or DM with agency that is closest to the Kpop experiences in the area.

New Lady Ari is using Instagram model bbyambi pics. Doubt she is doing this with almost 1 mil followers, LOL. Not saying Lady Ari won't be hot or good, but don't expect the girl in the pics.

There is a common phase that they say these women are not mind readers. If you want a 2nd round just gently guide her hand down to your member or say "lets go again. " No need to be rude or a jerk about it. Be confident and phrase it as a request not as a question. If you ask it as a question, the easy answer is a no. IF she turns it down then there is your answer. It is nice when they initiate a second round. But again it is your job to tell her what positions and activities you want.

Lady Tiffany's pic don't look real either.

Fake pics. Most of the time was a miss for me.

Had some pleasant suprises but theres so many guaranteed talent around.

[QUOTE=SweetDog;6379551]New Lady Ari is using Instagram model bbyambi pics. Doubt she is doing this with almost 1 mil followers, LOL. Not saying Lady Ari won't be hot or good, but don't expect the girl in the pics.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FabGnale;6378875]I will be in town on the 31st and April1. I have been to Kpop in the past. So I go to their website to see who is going be available. No one during these days. I then text the handler ask who will be around. I was told "we are moving locations nearby so closing for a few days" Can you tell me or DM with agency that is closest to the Kpop experiences in the area.[/QUOTE]Hey, JJ clubs is fairly easy to get into and so is moon palace for a similar experience IMO. Happy hunting.

Considering visiting Elite purely on the basis of it being the only agency I've been able to get verified for. I have a general understanding of what GFE and PSE mean but I'm also aware that in these dreams those are very open to interpretation. Can anyone expound on the minimum one could expect for visiting a provider at Elite who is listed as GFE? The one in consideration has no reviews on the other site to speak of.

2 questions:

1. Whats the deal with LadyLady? Just saw them / their girl on ThE OtheR site, are they yet another kgirl agency? Experiences?

2. Has anyone seen / can recommend any of the current MP jgirl crop? How the hell are we supposed to choose? I think I saw like 8 girls on their site LOL. Petite with a nice ass is my strike zone.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=MrFairfax;6380094]2 questions:

1. Whats the deal with LadyLady? Just saw them / their girl on ThE OtheR site, are they yet another kgirl agency? Experiences?

2. Has anyone seen / can recommend any of the current MP jgirl crop? How the hell are we supposed to choose? I think I saw like 8 girls on their site LOL. Petite with a nice ass is my strike zone.[/QUOTE]LadyLady is the same as SAG, I saw lady Valentina and she was way better than any MP girl I've ever seen. She gone though.

[QUOTE=Strandan;6379964]Considering visiting Elite purely on the basis of it being the only agency I've been able to get verified for. I have a general understanding of what GFE and PSE mean but I'm also aware that in these dreams those are very open to interpretation. Can anyone expound on the minimum one could expect for visiting a provider at Elite who is listed as GFE? The one in consideration has no reviews on the other site to speak of.[/QUOTE]I asked the booker about this because I was curious too. It is just anal + CIM at a very hefty price. You can ask to their email, I've found that the elite booker is very straightforward and can even coordinate outfits for you with the girls.

[QUOTE=Ichrequiend;6380107]LadyLady is the same as SAG, I saw lady Valentina and she was way better than any MP girl I've ever seen. She gone though.

I asked the booker about this because I was curious too. It is just anal + CIM at a very hefty price. You can ask to their email, I've found that the elite booker is very straightforward and can even coordinate outfits for you with the girls.[/QUOTE]My experience with Lady girls have been their services have been pretty lack luster. Most don't RIM and CIM is a long shot. AG and DS has always been on the top for services. Girls are generally a little older late 30's to 40's. 1 pop ponies and want extra for second. The price of entry is def higher than the others. I believe they are the same operators of SAG but strange they have 2 websites where they advertise some on both and some only on one. Had a few good ones from SAG so maybe they put the lower tiers on Lady.

Had a recent dream with Muziki. She is quite kawaii. Which is something I'm starting to realize I like LOL. It's a contrast to typical K-agency girls that are usually more hot than cute, but it gets me really going. Body is quite slender and proportionate, and tbf, the MP pictures did play up more the school girl look anyway. Very accommodating and took directions well. Blue toast / quick shower, which included preview BBBJ. Head was terrific.

Started with more BBBJ, and then to the main event, with multiple positions, finishing in RCG.

Definitely coulda busted real quick from BBBJ, had to have her pause many times.

Tempted to dream again though, for sure.

[QUOTE=MavDog2;6380486]Had a recent dream with Muziki. She is quite kawaii. Which is something I'm starting to realize I like LOL. It's a contrast to typical K-agency girls that are usually more hot than cute, but it gets me really going. Body is quite slender and proportionate, and tbf, the MP pictures did play up more the school girl look anyway. Very accommodating and took directions well. Blue toast / quick shower, which included preview BBBJ. Head was terrific.

Started with more BBBJ, and then to the main event, with multiple positions, finishing in RCG.

Definitely coulda busted real quick from BBBJ, had to have her pause many times.

Tempted to dream again though, for sure.[/QUOTE]Take her up on the extras?

[QUOTE=Itfcd;6380741]Take her up on the extras?[/QUOTE]I asked her about it, but no. Not for this session.

[QUOTE=MavDog2;6380745]I asked her about it, but no. Not for this session.[/QUOTE]What was the quoted damage for extras?

[QUOTE=MavDog2;6380745]I asked her about it, but no. Not for this session.[/QUOTE]What was the quoted damage for the extras?

Are you guys feeling comfortable going to the Mosaic agencies with all the shit that's gone on there in the last year or so?

[QUOTE=Rojo85;6376620]Or is this only with MP?

CIM, yeah but COF?

I believe GFE is BBFS, CFS, CIM and in some circumstance 2 pop allowed for the hour.

Atleast in the K-agencies I have been to.[/QUOTE]In my book, cumming just about anywhere is Ok, except pussy, and maybe mouth. This because CIP and CIM has risks, right? But gals can't catch stuff if you blow on their other parts. I heard some mongers like to cum on tits, on ass, and feet. I had gals say to me to cum on their pussy. That's kind of fun.

For me, I best love to blast on gals face. Must be popular way to finish since most porn end that way. I love seeing the splash. About one out of ten gals seem to love it too. Rubbing it all over their lips and face and shit. Probably pretend to wants a tip, though.

I guess some guys might think COF might be about humiliating the gal. I don't know, maybe. I do like to lightly slap my cock on their body too and rubbing cum around on them. Not hard slap. Just playful.

We all got our things and I don't try to figure that shit out. I guess we all be fucking them pros for some twisted reason, a therapist might say. The gals fuck for money, for sure. But they probably got other reasons to fuck strangers too. I not trying to save world to figure it out.

Gals sometimes complain cause COF fucks up makeup. WTF? I say. For 6-10 dollars a minute I pay to fuck and COF, they can put makeup back on in between fucks. Some gals also get piss if some cum gets on the sheets. Well, for what they get paid, make the bed I say.

Also, if you pay for hour, you gets at least two pops in my books. Back when I was younger I could get three. You is paying for the time for them to be your fuck toy. Just think if gal has two different half hour dates, they get popped two times.

[QUOTE=MrFairfax;6380930]Are you guys feeling comfortable going to the Mosaic agencies with all the shit that's gone on there in the last year or so?[/QUOTE]I'm not saying don't be cautious but some of the guys here seem to be in their own heads too much. Wear a mask when you go. Unless someone is sitting there watching x amount of people enter a particular apartment nobody's paying you any attention. There's lots to do in the area. There's always people walking around.

[QUOTE=FabGnale;6378875]I will be in town on the 31st and April1. I have been to Kpop in the past. So I go to their website to see who is going be available. No one during these days. I then text the handler ask who will be around. I was told "we are moving locations nearby so closing for a few days" Can you tell me or DM with agency that is closest to the Kpop experiences in the area.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the move is about the LEO action we was talking about a few weeks ago?

Agreed. I have yet to COF but I really want too. I need to be a bit more assertive. Yes I agree your paying for time so you should be able to get multiple cups. Some of these agencies are trying to charge extra for that and it's BS. Why do we allow this crap? Stop giving them business IMO. Vote with your dollar, there are so many options now.

[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6381015]In my book, cumming just about anywhere is Ok, except pussy, and maybe mouth. This because CIP and CIM has risks, right? But gals can't catch stuff if you blow on their other parts. I heard some mongers like to cum on tits, on ass, and feet. I had gals say to me to cum on their pussy. That's kind of fun.

For me, I best love to blast on gals face. Must be popular way to finish since most porn end that way. I love seeing the splash. About one out of ten gals seem to love it too. Rubbing it all over their lips and face and shit. Probably pretend to wants a tip, though.

I guess some guys might think COF might be about humiliating the gal. I don't know, maybe. I do like to lightly slap my cock on their body too and rubbing cum around on them. Not hard slap. Just playful.

We all got our things and I don't try to figure that shit out. I guess we all be fucking them pros for some twisted reason, a therapist might say. The gals fuck for money, for sure. But they probably got other reasons to fuck strangers too. I not trying to save world to figure it out.

Gals sometimes complain cause COF fucks up makeup. WTF? I say. For 6-10 dollars a minute I pay to fuck and COF, they can put makeup back on in between fucks. Some gals also get piss if some cum gets on the sheets. Well, for what they get paid, make the bed I say.

Also, if you pay for hour, you gets at least two pops in my books. Back when I was younger I could get three. You is paying for the time for them to be your fuck toy. Just think if gal has two different half hour dates, they get popped two times.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6381054]I wonder if the move is about the LEO action we was talking about a few weeks ago?[/QUOTE]It's been planned for a while.

[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6381054]I wonder if the move is about the LEO action we was talking about a few weeks ago?[/QUOTE]I went there this week. No cops visible and the intercom worked fine!

Now stop hogging up Bora!

[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6381015]In my book, cumming just about anywhere is Ok, except pussy, and maybe mouth. This because CIP and CIM has risks, right? But gals can't catch stuff if you blow on their other parts. I heard some mongers like to cum on tits, on ass, and feet. I had gals say to me to cum on their pussy. That's kind of fun.

For me, I best love to blast on gals face. Must be popular way to finish since most porn end that way. I love seeing the splash. About one out of ten gals seem to love it too. Rubbing it all over their lips and face and shit. Probably pretend to wants a tip, though.

I guess some guys might think COF might be about humiliating the gal. I don't know, maybe. I do like to lightly slap my cock on their body too and rubbing cum around on them. Not hard slap. Just playful.

We all got our things and I don't try to figure that shit out. I guess we all be fucking them pros for some twisted reason, a therapist might say. The gals fuck for money, for sure. But they probably got other reasons to fuck strangers too. I not trying to save world to figure it out.

Gals sometimes complain cause COF fucks up makeup. WTF? I say. For 6-10 dollars a minute I pay to fuck and COF, they can put makeup back on in between fucks. Some gals also get piss if some cum gets on the sheets. Well, for what they get paid, make the bed I say.

Also, if you pay for hour, you gets at least two pops in my books. Back when I was younger I could get three. You is paying for the time for them to be your fuck toy. Just think if gal has two different half hour dates, they get popped two times.[/QUOTE]Its low risk but to be fear if you get it in the ladies eyes, it can lead to infections.

Are you doing COF with the K Agencies like Discreet Story and AG as well? Or just moonpalace?

[QUOTE=NightHawk1967;6381015]In my book, cumming just about anywhere is Ok, except pussy, and maybe mouth. This because CIP and CIM has risks, right? But gals can't catch stuff if you blow on their other parts. I heard some mongers like to cum on tits, on ass, and feet. I had gals say to me to cum on their pussy. That's kind of fun.

For me, I best love to blast on gals face. Must be popular way to finish since most porn end that way. I love seeing the splash. About one out of ten gals seem to love it too. Rubbing it all over their lips and face and shit. Probably pretend to wants a tip, though.

I guess some guys might think COF might be about humiliating the gal. I don't know, maybe. I do like to lightly slap my cock on their body too and rubbing cum around on them. Not hard slap. Just playful.

We all got our things and I don't try to figure that shit out. I guess we all be fucking them pros for some twisted reason, a therapist might say. The gals fuck for money, for sure. But they probably got other reasons to fuck strangers too. I not trying to save world to figure it out.

Gals sometimes complain cause COF fucks up makeup. WTF? I say. For 6-10 dollars a minute I pay to fuck and COF, they can put makeup back on in between fucks. Some gals also get piss if some cum gets on the sheets. Well, for what they get paid, make the bed I say.

Also, if you pay for hour, you gets at least two pops in my books. Back when I was younger I could get three. You is paying for the time for them to be your fuck toy. Just think if gal has two different half hour dates, they get popped two times.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys I'm trying to get into moon place without giving up pay stubs and a drivers license which is crazy because I do not know these people.

What agencies are the easy to get into without the BS?

Please let me know.

[QUOTE=TheMan31;6381518]Hey guys I'm trying to get into moon place without giving up pay stubs and a drivers license which is crazy because I do not know these people.

What agencies are the easy to get into without the BS?

Please let me know.[/QUOTE]Everyone seems to have different experiences but JJ Club was pretty easy from what I can remember. I got in back when it was Club VIP. Still haven't gotten a response from CP after 3 years so I gave up. Might have to try and catch the legendary Sira in Philly. AG and DS both took me awhile. A year for each. Basically whenever they feel like taking new clients. After you get a couple it should be a bit easier since you'll have references.

[QUOTE=Tomk2323;6381511]Are you doing COF with the K Agencies like Discreet Story and AG as well? Or just moonpalace?[/QUOTE]I COF everywhere I go. If the gal not do it, I most of time walk, and usually they beg me to come back. Maybe I say it on this thread before, but I've had gals grab me by legs begging me to stay and pay. If a gal really super hot I might not push it.

They is in it for the money, and I'm in it for fuck the shit out of them and blast on her face. Sometimes they tried to charge extra for COF. I don't go along with that shit. BBBJ, CFS in all position, CIM, COF standard in high price joints like AG and K-pop girls, for example. ABBA took it like a champ, for example. Slurp it up with her sweet little tongue. Also, the so-called AMPs in NYC and Philly COF and CIM too. High price escort too—knock them off the high horse with cum dropping off the chin. LOL. No play, I walk.

Now, if I wants to just get a quick covered pop for cheap, I might go to AMP, or I just discovered some cheap Latin fucks in College Park on the Baltimore escort thread. I did a CFS and COF there but she charged 10 bucks extra to CIM. Fair enough. 90 bucks total for a good fuck and blast.

[QUOTE=FunShip75;6381357]Its low risk but to be fear if you get it in the ladies eyes, it can lead to infections.[/QUOTE]You tight on that. I never shoot for the eyes. That's cause one of things I like best is that minute of two after the COF when I rub my cock on the gals face and lips, and shove cock in mouth and tell her to suck out last drops and tell her to look at me while I do it.