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[QUOTE=Smllbybgcck;6935723]I don't like that Seeking (SA) requires photos. Anyone have a trick to get around that?[/QUOTE]Just post generic pics of someone who sorta resembles you, and make those ones your profile pic or public images. And if that's not an appealing option, just wear sunglasses or blur out your face altogether.
[QUOTE=Smllbybgcck;6935723]I don't like that Seeking (SA) requires photos. Anyone have a trick to get around that?[/QUOTE]If you're a paying member you can get away without uploading one. Or just upload a stock photo of someone's silhouette which is what I do.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;6935837]?! Not after you told us she was asking 20k / month (thread # 2667), LOL.[/QUOTE]What's funny is that after I basically told her she was delusional, a week later she reached out trying to set up something more accommodating. She is a total smoke show, about 10 pounds heavier than her pics but one of the best looking women on here. Toying with her now to see if I can get a piece.
Do you guys actually take SBs out on dates and spoil them or just text them to come over? Also hotel vs actual home?
[QUOTE=FabricBuster;6938665]Do you guys actually take SBs out on dates and spoil them or just text them to come over? Also hotel vs actual home?[/QUOTE]I live & work on the East Coast, but I've found that the same mongering principles for the most part apply here just as they do back home.
For the very 1st meet, Starbucks (or some other similar coffee shop) is your best friend. It's a neutral spot with multiple locations and perfect for these sort of meets. There are numerous benefits with this approach: 1) Both parties can see if they look as pictured; 2) The price of coffee & whatever the cost of gas to drive over is hardly going to break the bank; 3) It's a relaxed enough setting to have casual convos about anything to include what each other's expectations are for the arrangement; and 4) No wait staff or check to wait for, leaving you free to dip at a moment's notice if you're not feeling that it'll work out with your SB. Also by offering to meet at a Starbucks closer to her location, it makes it more convenient for her while incentivizing a "yes" more often than not. And in a really best-case, picture-perfect scenario, she might even forgo you reserving a hotel & offer to host you at her place. While that doesn't always work out that way, it's happened a few times for me.
After engaging in small talk and feeling each other out in the beginning, I eventually make it clear that I'm only interested in short-term, drama-free, NSA fun with maybe two meets in a month then reassessing from there. I'm more than happy to be FWB, but the key operative word in that abbreviation is "benefits," which is a mutual thing for both parties anyway. The majority of SBs will appreciate your candidness & will reciprocate. For the ones who don't and try making a scene? Well, you'll have gotten your answer then!
Personally, I only take the truly special SB gems (ones I've thoroughly enjoyed on multiple occasions) out on "dates. " And by dates, I don't usually mean on shopping trips & certainly not out to Michelin-starred restaurants! Most of the time, I'll take those select few to a fun local spot that serves amazing food, has a great night atmosphere, and safe surrounding area to walk around. For you guys in San Diego, finding such spots shouldn't be that difficult. You're by countless miles of beautiful beaches after all! In one SB's case, I drove her with me to a business conference, stayed at nice hotels for multiple days, ate amazing food, went to the outlets, and fucked like rabbits in the evening. But again, that's something that shouldn't be done with all SBs, of course. We had known each other for almost a year and she never once tried to take advantage of me, asked for anything more than what was agreed upon, nor begged for rent money, car repairs, purses, or clothes. Eventually, she found another guy that she wanted to be monogamous with. I wished her well, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't suck seeing that unicorn leave.
Do not pay a single penny in advance before meeting in-person! I myself recently broke this rule, and I hate myself for thinking with my little head instead of the bigger one above my shoulders. It's just not worth the risk, and there's plenty of women who don't ask for the benjamins for a simple M&G. If they want to go to a restaurant instead of Starbucks, stick to your guns and gently explain why you think it's a better plan to meet there instead. If they don't look as advertised, don't feel ashamed to get up and walk away. They lied to you after all, so why feel bad? Have a set budget in mind & don't cave to pressure by going over it. And as for the location of these night rendezvouses, I strongly discourage bringing SBs to your house / apartment. Even if you're single, it could still be a headache that could come back to haunt you down the road. Best not to open that can of worms and just pony up for a decent hotel.
So to wrap up this lengthy bible of a post, the majority of my experiences with SBs tends to follow a set pattern: 1) Meet at Starbucks, 2) Head to hotel, 3) Burn calories at least twice, 4) Offer to drop them off back at their place or pay for their Uber home. If the experience was amazing, by all means have repeat performances! And if it keeps being amazing, potentially move on to what I described earlier with that one unicorn. While Seeking is certainly a slog to get through these past several years with all the bots, scammers, pic sellers, flakes, and delusional / jaded ones who think they're worth twice the amount of a professional escort, remember that some gems can be found if you're patient & keep working at it.
Hope this helps, cheers!
[QUOTE=BugsyInnc;6936144]What's funny is that after I basically told her she was delusional, a week later she reached out trying to set up something more accommodating. She is a total smoke show, about 10 pounds heavier than her pics but one of the best looking women on here. Toying with her now to see if I can get a piece.[/QUOTE]Update, took her out really nice place for dinner, got her to agree to $3 K, took her home and hit it, then left. No, didn't pay $3 K, total cost. Dinner. This chick is living in a Hollywood movie in her head. Lots of lies. Be wary gents, she will financially suck you dry and no, won't suck anything else.
[QUOTE=BugsyInnc;6939631]Update, took her out really nice place for dinner, got her to agree to $3 K, took her home and hit it, then left. No, didn't pay $3 K, total cost. Dinner. This chick is living in a Hollywood movie in her head. Lots of lies. Be wary gents, she will financially suck you dry and no, won't suck anything else.[/QUOTE]Haha, good for you man. Myabe she'll suck something else next time around.
Had great conversation for days. Made plans for Sunday the day before. Sunday comes she goes radio silence. She's a no show. Seems to be happening a lot lately. I know it's part of the territory but it still sucks. Common courtesy is dead. But I met someone young and fun at the bar so not a total loss.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/332358e5-82cf-4107-a4e2-620af91d25f2[/URL]
[QUOTE=DanteHaversham;6942340]Had great conversation for days. Made plans for Sunday the day before. Sunday comes she goes radio silence. She's a no show. Seems to be happening a lot lately. I know it's part of the territory but it still sucks. Common courtesy is dead. But I met someone young and fun at the bar so not a total loss.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/332358e5-82cf-4107-a4e2-620af91d25f2[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe she was unable to get into the bar because she is only 20 years old? LOL.
[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6942515]Maybe she was unable to get into the bar because she is only 20 years old? LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL. It was a restaurant. I stayed at the bar when it was clear she wasn't coming. She told me that she had recently turned 21.
[QUOTE=Shinshi;6938960]So to wrap up this lengthy bible of a post, the majority of my experiences with SBs tends to follow a set pattern: 1) Meet at Starbucks, 2) Head to hotel, 3) Burn calories at least twice, 4) Offer to drop them off back at their place or pay for their Uber home. If the experience was amazing, by all means have repeat performances! And if it keeps being amazing, potentially move on to what I described earlier with that one unicorn. While Seeking is certainly a slog to get through these past several years with all the bots, scammers, pic sellers, flakes, and delusional / jaded ones who think they're worth twice the amount of a professional escort, remember that some gems can be found if you're patient & keep working at it.[/QUOTE]Very good and accurate advice. Thanks.
[QUOTE=BugsyInnc;6939631]Update, took her out really nice place for dinner, got her to agree to $3 K, took her home and hit it, then left. No, didn't pay $3 K, total cost. Dinner. This chick is living in a Hollywood movie in her head. Lots of lies. Be wary gents, she will financially suck you dry and no, won't suck anything else.[/QUOTE]What was the cost for sex only.
Ok gents, here's one for you. Total smoke show, young Columbian. CFS, she is very cautious. Petite, fun and super tight. $600, probably could be talked down, she needs cash. She is DTF, comms are slow but worth it. Won't repeat, not right for me long term but lots of fun.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4bad721a-15d6-4ae6-8728-c9138e5ac08c[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cebf7a9c-ab96-463c-80ac-35f8d4fdc13c[/URL]
Wants 1500 per meet. Told her if meet last 3 days I would consider it.
Don't bother with her. Great pics and verified them on FB, Ubered her to hotel I was staying at for afternoon poolside. She showed up along with 50 extra pounds. Left her at the pool, went to my room and texted her that her Uber would be there in 10 minutes to haul her fat ass home.
I think she is the FB hottie's Mom. Hate these liars.
Already blocked so I can't link her. She is Viet and claims to speak french, probably more like Latin. Her screen name is SnowBlanc.
[QUOTE=BugsyInnc;6967710]Don't bother with her. Great pics and verified them on FB, Ubered her to hotel I was staying at for afternoon poolside. She showed up along with 50 extra pounds. Left her at the pool, went to my room and texted her that her Uber would be there in 10 minutes to haul her fat ass home.
I think she is the FB hottie's Mom. Hate these liars.
Already blocked so I can't link her. She is Viet and claims to speak french, probably more like Latin. Her screen name is SnowBlanc.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. Found the "1963 chenin blanc who speaks french." Someone can try the vintage and let us know if it's worth it~
[QUOTE=FabricBuster;6938665]Do you guys actually take SBs out on dates and spoil them or just text them to come over? Also hotel vs actual home?[/QUOTE]I used to do the whole dinner and hotel thing when I was on Seeking a few years ago, but maybe because I'm using sites like SugardaddyMeet (SDM) more, the girls tend to be fine just coming over to your place for a PPM for a few hours.
I know Seeking has really tried to move away from the sugar dating (they are advertising as a "hypergamy" site now. Which basically means marrying up) label in the last few 2-3 years, but I think it's still the same kind of people are on it.
As far as actual / hotel, I live in an apartment, so I usually meet them nearby, so you get a bit of a vibe if something seems off about them, I've been lucky no issues so far, but the hotel would be my choice if all things being equal.
[QUOTE=Shinshi;6938960]I live & work on the East Coast, but I've found that the same mongering principles for the most part apply here just as they do back home.
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Hope this helps, cheers![/QUOTE]I just wanted to say thanks for writing this. Solid advice here; if more guys followed your tips, we'd have less price inflation because some guy with too much money decided to drop $500 on some Seeking girl for just dinner. .
Any info on this one? Sent her OF link on Seeking.
[QUOTE=Tribeca67;6984233]Any info on this one? Sent her OF link on Seeking.[/QUOTE]I think it is one of SA fake profile. If you search for the username Molly. There are 2 different profiles come up. It is impossible to create an new profile with an username was already taken unless it is created by SA.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;6984547]I think it is one of SA fake profile. If you search for the username Molly. There are 2 different profiles come up. It is impossible to create an new profile with an username was already taken unless it is created by SA.[/QUOTE]A fellow pm me and said she sent him her OF link. So not sure if totally fake.
I have never connected with that profile. However, if she's sending her OF links to all her contacts, it's most likely an "ONLINE ONLY" account, aka "Promo Account. " You see them around all the major dating Apps (IG, Tinder, Bumble, Hinge), not just on SA. It usually goes something like "oh, I am not on here often..." or "Let's start online 1st so I know you are serious" or even "Follow me on IG" (then IG has a link to her OF.)
Curious if you guys have "exception to the rule" kinda thing where you'll do 800 ppm or more for an sb. For example: model-like body, blonde, hot af, open to exclusive and bare etc. I have an opportunity atm LOL. But I also found another that's more curvy and more cute pretty but also exclusive and possible bare at half ppm of the hottie LOL.
[QUOTE=FabricBuster;7030861]Curious if you guys have "exception to the rule" kinda thing where you'll do 800 ppm or more for an sb. For example: model-like body, blonde, hot af, open to exclusive and bare etc. I have an opportunity atm LOL. But I also found another that's more curvy and more cute pretty but also exclusive and possible bare at half ppm of the hottie LOL.[/QUOTE]I haven't done it yet but there is one girl on PD that I have been thinking about forking over her high rate because she's just so fucking hot and her reviews are really good.
The only reason why I did it because I felt I would be the only one given the special circumstance. And in this situation, I was and it felt great catching that elusive "unicorn". I kept the review to myself and every time I saw her, she didn't ask about the money. I left her what she I could and she was happy with that. I guess She just wanted to see if I would "put my money where my mouth is".
I did just that.
[QUOTE=FabricBuster;7030861]Curious if you guys have "exception to the rule" kinda thing where you'll do 800 ppm or more for an sb. For example: model-like body, blonde, hot af, open to exclusive and bare etc. I have an opportunity atm LOL. But I also found another that's more curvy and more cute pretty but also exclusive and possible bare at half ppm of the hottie LOL.[/QUOTE]
On another topic just tried to pm you. Can you clear your inbox man? Thanks.
[QUOTE=NineInches;7034571]The only reason why I did it because I felt I would be the only one given the special circumstance. And in this situation, I was and it felt great catching that elusive "unicorn". I kept the review to myself and every time I saw her, she didn't ask about the money. I left her what she I could and she was happy with that. I guess She just wanted to see if I would "put my money where my mouth is".
I did just that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BugsyInnc;6965751][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cebf7a9c-ab96-463c-80ac-35f8d4fdc13c[/URL]
Wants 1500 per meet. Told her if meet last 3 days I would consider it.[/QUOTE]Told me 1 k so she's negotiable.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4f473549-abb1-4f04-8514-3d4682f8c8cc[/URL]
Last week I chatted with different pictures. I told her / him I found her pictures on the internet at porn sites. Last night, new pictures are posted. Do not waste your time.
Gents, I'll be visiting SD in a couple weeks for a long weekend. I'm looking for some insight / guidance on the SB scene there. What can I expect in terms of typical range of ppm and any other details.
I'm happy to return the favor for anyone visiting Chicago. PM if you prefer. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=TimeForPlay10;7054970]Gents, I'll be visiting SD in a couple weeks for a long weekend. I'm looking for some insight / guidance on the SB scene there. What can I expect in terms of typical range of ppm and any other details.
I'm happy to return the favor for anyone visiting Chicago. PM if you prefer. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You're looking at 5+ benz for an sb that's decent and up. You're going to have to do some work to get a good one. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=TimeForPlay10;7054970]Gents, I'll be visiting SD in a couple weeks for a long weekend. I'm looking for some insight / guidance on the SB scene there. What can I expect in terms of typical range of ppm and any other details.
I'm happy to return the favor for anyone visiting Chicago. PM if you prefer. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you want to get an idea of what the going rates could be, there's a spreadsheet here that has some numbers. This is all self-reported, but might be useful. Compare the numbers here to what you know about Chicago's scene and adjust as needed.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/xy8it6/allowance_questionnaire_results/[/URL]
Last time I went to a new city I ended up just messaging about 20 girls, told them I was in town for a long weekend, staying downtown, and looking if anybody would be up for meeting and possible giving me a tour around. Out of 20 or so messages, I eventually got down to talking with two when I landed.
The first one I met was fun, so I spent most of the weekend with her. This was just before Covid, and I think I was giving her about $300 plus food/drinks when we went out. She was between jobs, not a model either, but she took care of all my needs
[QUOTE=BerolLoz;7062194]If you want to get an idea of what the going rates could be, there's a spreadsheet here that has some numbers. This is all self-reported, but might be useful. Compare the numbers here to what you know about Chicago's scene and adjust as needed.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/xy8it6/allowance_questionnaire_results/[/URL]
Last time I went to a new city I ended up just messaging about 20 girls, told them I was in town for a long weekend, staying downtown, and looking if anybody would be up for meeting and possible giving me a tour around. Out of 20 or so messages, I eventually got down to talking with two when I landed.
The first one I met was fun, so I spent most of the weekend with her. This was just before Covid, and I think I was giving her about $300 plus food/drinks when we went out. She was between jobs, not a model either, but she took care of all my needs[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I'll check it out. I'm guessing it's similar to Chicago for a good non pro / GPS SB. If anyone has any leads on any good non pro POTs please PM me. And like I said, willing to return the favor if you get to Chicago. Seems like I'm taking to mostly pros atm.
Thought you might get a kick out of this. SB requests 3 k per meet. Not an overnighter either. She comes to SD some.
[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=72366023[/URL]
[QUOTE=NoswtTea;7065534]Thought you might get a kick out of this. SB requests 3 k per meet. Not an overnighter either. She comes to SD some.
[URL=https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&userId=72366023]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=72366023[/URL][/QUOTE]She's not a bad-looking girl, but that's pretty nuts. Did you even bother negotiating or just couldn't stop laughing? I thought maybe because she was in the Hollowood area, there are some entertainment people who can drop that much, but it seems pretty high still.
[QUOTE=BugsyInnc;6965751][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cebf7a9c-ab96-463c-80ac-35f8d4fdc13c[/URL]
Wants 1500 per meet. Told her if meet last 3 days I would consider it.[/QUOTE]She quoted me 1 K is it worth it?
[QUOTE=NineInches;7034571]The only reason why I did it because I felt I would be the only one given the special circumstance. And in this situation, I was and it felt great catching that elusive "unicorn". I kept the review to myself and every time I saw her, she didn't ask about the money. I left her what she I could and she was happy with that. I guess She just wanted to see if I would "put my money where my mouth is".
I did just that.[/QUOTE]I will do that too for the first meeting if she meets all my needs. If there's a connection (and there should be if you screened well), she will be negotiable.
Seeking info on the following:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/604da891-cb86-4dd0-aad9-b2aeac8d3b72[/URL]
She asks for money for meets. I don't do that.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c016515c-0ba3-4d10-8918-d33451372667[/URL]
These ladies quoted me 1500 together. Boy it's tempting.
Nicole_Knight.
Another case of GPS! Drinks for 250 or dinner for 550. Not happening. Google lens took me straight to her IG account.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8795e7b1-faef-42b1-a0a1-d9e1d491351d[/URL]
Can anyone share their SB experience? Not sure who is real LOL. PM is appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=JayPm;7087852]Can anyone share their SB experience? Not sure who is real LOL. PM is appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]SA girls mostly are escorts. If not, then flakes.