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[QUOTE=EuHunter;4705023]Idk how you guys keep paying 300+ for the woman when the same girls are going for 150 on WYP. I have gotten over 10 girls on wyp for no more then 200 and all of them say they are on seeking. I can't believe people are still using SA when wyp is cheaper and a lot easier to work with.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%.
[QUOTE=HumptyHarley;4705287]I agree 100%.[/QUOTE]I've not used WYP. Interesting that if its the same girls. . . And they are setting their own prices. . . They seek less on WYP than SA. Maybe they 'assume' that men on SA can and will pay more?
[QUOTE=Bran001;4706331]I've not used WYP. Interesting that if its the same girls. . . And they are setting their own prices. . . They seek less on WYP than SA. Maybe they 'assume' that men on SA can and will pay more?[/QUOTE]WYP girls do not assume you are a hotshot doctor or lawyer with $12 k a year to blow on pussy, just a guy with around $100 for a vanilla date at a decent restaurant or even Starbucks. They want more $$ obviously and are willing to get physical for it so you can both negotiate a nice unrushed hour or two with an option on going it on the regular.
I have not tried it myself. I may give it a whirl. With SA I usually don't pay for the initial meet and greet unless I know I am getting the goods afterwards. WYP seems like you have to pay for the initial meet and greet. So I can see a lot of risk for the guys. But I can see how it can be lucrative for the women since they can go on fancy dates and not put out. Am I missing something here?
[QUOTE=Spike77;4706546]I have not tried it myself. I may give it a whirl. With SA I usually don't pay for the initial meet and greet unless I know I am getting the goods afterwards. WYP seems like you have to pay for the initial meet and greet. So I can see a lot of risk for the guys. But I can see how it can be lucrative for the women since they can go on fancy dates and not put out. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Good point. On SA, "I don't donate for a coffee date other than Uber fare or parking" works almost all of the time. If it doesn't work, I block and move on. I NEVER pay for a meet and greet. I would rather do meet and greets for free, and pay 300 for an intimate second date (with someone I know I'm attracted to after a coffee date) than pay 100 for a coffee date that may or may not lead to more. And the girls who know they won't put out are not all that motivated for the free meet and greets, whereas they are for $100 coffee dates. I want no part of them.
Could you please provide any links to girls that are accepting 150 for sex, and charging much more on SA? Thank you sir.
[QUOTE=Spike77;4706546]I have not tried it myself. I may give it a whirl. With SA I usually don't pay for the initial meet and greet unless I know I am getting the goods afterwards. WYP seems like you have to pay for the initial meet and greet. So I can see a lot of risk for the guys. But I can see how it can be lucrative for the women since they can go on fancy dates and not put out. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Personally I would rather go the WYP route than Seeking. Here's how I do it. I only make an offer to those that put in the "Interested In" section, discreet affairs. If they respond most will ask when you can meet, and I always quickly make them know it was the discreet affairs that is the reason I sent the offer. I would say 90% will meet for the reason you want, but you may have to up your offer as I always put a $100 offer, so if negotiated up to $150 you still got a good deal. Of course there are those that will counter your offer with a crazy number like $400 and the conversation is ended. I've had quite a few that would counter $200 and quickly get back with a $150 offer and most accept it. This doesn't always work but I'd say I've met at least 10 girls in the last year or so and only one was a disappointment, as I agreed to $250 and she was a hottie and let me take pics but she had way too many rules to have a good time. This was one of the first I met and tightened my rules after her. I should also add that this is in Manchester NH area so I can't say it will work with MA girls.
[QUOTE=HumptyHarley;4706766]Personally I would rather go the WYP route than Seeking. Here's how I do it. I only make an offer to those that put in the "Interested In" section, discreet affairs. If they respond most will ask when you can meet, and I always quickly make them know it was the discreet affairs that is the reason I sent the offer. I would say 90% will meet for the reason you want, but you may have to up your offer as I always put a $100 offer, so if negotiated up to $150 you still got a good deal. Of course there are those that will counter your offer with a crazy number like $400 and the conversation is ended. I've had quite a few that would counter $200 and quickly get back with a $150 offer and most accept it. This doesn't always work but I'd say I've met at least 10 girls in the last year or so and only one was a disappointment, as I agreed to $250 and she was a hottie and let me take pics but she had way too many rules to have a good time. This was one of the first I met and tightened my rules after her. I should also add that this is in Manchester NH area so I can't say it will work with MA girls.[/QUOTE]How many credits does it cost to place a bid?
[QUOTE=HumptyHarley;4706766]Personally I would rather go the WYP route than Seeking. Here's how I do it. I only make an offer to those that put in the "Interested In" section, discreet affairs. If they respond most will ask when you can meet, and I always quickly make them know it was the discreet affairs that is the reason I sent the offer. I would say 90% will meet for the reason you want, but you may have to up your offer as I always put a $100 offer, so if negotiated up to $150 you still got a good deal. Of course there are those that will counter your offer with a crazy number like $400 and the conversation is ended. I've had quite a few that would counter $200 and quickly get back with a $150 offer and most accept it. This doesn't always work but I'd say I've met at least 10 girls in the last year or so and only one was a disappointment, as I agreed to $250 and she was a hottie and let me take pics but she had way too many rules to have a good time. This was one of the first I met and tightened my rules after her. I should also add that this is in Manchester NH area so I can't say it will work with MA girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback! Some good information here. Looks like where WYP gets you is on the credits. 50 bucks gets you 100 credits. However, in order to unlock a conversation with a woman you need 35 credits which is absurd. They do have 400 credits for $150 which seems a better option. But still, that comes out to conversing with 13 women before running out of credits. SA is 90 bucks and I get unlimited messaging to however many women I want. So I am not seeing how this is cheaper than SA. Unless you are saying you are banging hot young college or young professional chicks for 150 - 200.
[QUOTE=Spike77;4706921]Thanks for your feedback! Some good information here. Looks like where WYP gets you is on the credits. 50 bucks gets you 100 credits. However, in order to unlock a conversation with a woman you need 35 credits which is absurd. They do have 400 credits for $150 which seems a better option. But still, that comes out to conversing with 13 women before running out of credits. SA is 90 bucks and I get unlimited messaging to however many women I want. So I am not seeing how this is cheaper than SA. Unless you are saying you are banging hot young college or young professional chicks for 150 - 200.[/QUOTE]You're definitely correct with your thinking on the credits. The one thing I've found is the more the offer you send, the more credits they charge. I've found if your offer of $100 is accepted you're charged 20 credits, over that then they jump to more credits so I tend to "go to conversation" to those that accept the $100 offer unless their counter offer is $150 at most I just move on. Just an aside, I've been with a few hotties that accepted my initial offer and then negotiate after we start talking and you get no extra charged credits. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=HumptyHarley;4706931]You're definitely correct with your thinking on the credits. The one thing I've found is the more the offer you send, the more credits they charge. I've found if your offer of $100 is accepted you're charged 20 credits, over that then they jump to more credits so I tend to "go to conversation" to those that accept the $100 offer unless their counter offer is $150 at most I just move on. Just an aside, I've been with a few hotties that accepted my initial offer and then negotiate after we start talking and you get no extra charged credits. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I have had varied experience with WYP. Mostly good. Initially when I started I didn't find much info. Here so I had a lot of hit and miss and shelled some decent amount of money. Good thing was, I felt a bit more comfortable with whoever I am visiting, with other sites like STG, Eros and et all, I always had this fear of what am I getting into. Second it's easy to find girls in other cities big you are traveling. The only disadvantage is no reviews. That said I was able to find ATF on WYP, I found a nymph, nice mature woman as well as MILFs who are bit more open. Completely agree on the pricing part, only disadvantage is the most of the good MILFs I found are only available during weekdays day time.
Worse part is NY City, I travel for work and this is the only place where I had meet ups, shelled out a $100 or $150 for nothing. Most of the women there put DS as one of the things they are interested in, they want to meet, you meet up and in public they will ask for their donation. I haven't mastered the act of put out or get out talk. Here in MA I have had good / decent experiences, but I mostly use the site for out of state.
[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4706686]Could you please provide any links to girls that are accepting 150 for sex, and charging much more on SA? Thank you sir.[/QUOTE]So. I'm primarily in Dallas. I had spent some money getting credits, trying it out. The pool is much smaller in wyp, even if they seem to me more motivated for a meet up. Actually meeting up? Oof. It was like SA, lots of people wanting to sell pics. Then there's people who do. They just want platonic meets to get paid. I have much, much better luck on SA.
Anyone considered how to do meet & greet the next 2 - 3 weeks with coffee shops, restaurants, bars limited to take-out and delivery only? The usual coffee meet or drinks is no longer an option. If you're not in a position to host you can't simply invite her over. What's next?
[QUOTE=HounDog3;4708580]Anyone considered how to do meet & greet the next 2 - 3 weeks with coffee shops, restaurants, bars limited to take-out and delivery only? The usual coffee meet or drinks is no longer an option. If you're not in a position to host you can't simply invite her over. What's next?[/QUOTE]I'm not an alarmist, but I'm taking a break from meeting new people until the end of the month at a minimum.
[QUOTE=GlennDoyle91;4708038]So. I'm primarily in Dallas. I had spent some money getting credits, trying it out. The pool is much smaller in wyp, even if they seem to me more motivated for a meet up. Actually meeting up? Oof. It was like SA, lots of people wanting to sell pics. Then there's people who do. They just want platonic meets to get paid. I have much, much better luck on SA.[/QUOTE]I have tried all three main avenues, SA, SB and WYP. WYP has been the least productive with almost all M&G's being a prelude to nothing. However, one unicorn did happen, where we met and went to her apartment to fuck, and then Fucked a few more times over the next few months, and I never even gave her the initial 100 I promised. Some women use these sites not for the money but for a way to meet guys who don't want a relationship but will treat them well. Unfortunately, she moved back to the Midwest somewhere or I would still be riding my unicorn from time to time. I think she had a husband there, or something complicated anyway.
SA has been by far the best for me. I have found 10's of UTR girls for $2-3 or less. Some have been long term and other more one off types. I will say it does take a lot of effort to find these girls as most girls on there either want a lot or really aren't dtf. This is the first major crisis this country has had in awhile and could cause an uptick in the sugar game.
[QUOTE=Banjomania;4708700]I have tried all three main avenues, SA, SB and WYP. WYP has been the least productive with almost all M&G's being a prelude to nothing. However, one unicorn did happen, where we met and went to her apartment to fuck, and then Fucked a few more times over the next few months, and I never even gave her the initial 100 I promised. Some women use these sites not for the money but for a way to meet guys who don't want a relationship but will treat them well. Unfortunately, she moved back to the Midwest somewhere or I would still be riding my unicorn from time to time. I think she had a husband there, or something complicated anyway.[/QUOTE]Yup, it is definitely not easy to find, needs bit of patience. However, like you mentioned I also found more than one unicorn, and all have so far worked out well. I look for certain type of photos, keywords in their description on WYP. If someone has a very clean picture, or say they are student looking for SD or walk on the beach kind of crap, it's an automatic no. Also the girls I found are happy with one or two affairs a month. All in all, WYP worked out better, maybe because I joined bit early in the site vs SA where there are lot of scammers to weed out. Stay safe guys!
[QUOTE=Banjomania;4708700]I have tried all three main avenues, SA, SB and WYP. WYP has been the least productive with almost all M&G's being a prelude to nothing. However, one unicorn did happen, where we met and went to her apartment to fuck, and then Fucked a few more times over the next few months, and I never even gave her the initial 100 I promised. Some women use these sites not for the money but for a way to meet guys who don't want a relationship but will treat them well. Unfortunately, she moved back to the Midwest somewhere or I would still be riding my unicorn from time to time. I think she had a husband there, or something complicated anyway.[/QUOTE]I had an extremely familiar style relationship agreement and then she had to pack up, almost overnight. Curious what her name was that you were seeing? Mine said her name was Melanie but you know how that goes.
Brother mongers, is there a money transfer app that protects our anonymity? I'm unable to leave the house but I'm curious about getting pics from particular girls (yes, I know I'll probably be cheated at least once, but I'm willing to burn the money to keep myself mildly entertained). I certainly don't want the girl to see my identity. Any ideas? Thanks. The girl I'm chatting with now has suggested cash app.
[QUOTE=Rkol7;4711110]Brother mongers, is there a money transfer app that protects our anonymity? I'm unable to leave the house but I'm curious about getting pics from particular girls (yes, I know I'll probably be cheated at least once, but I'm willing to burn the money to keep myself mildly entertained). I certainly don't want the girl to see my identity. Any ideas? Thanks. The girl I'm chatting with now has suggested cash app.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is. I have tried this in many different ways. Maybe Kik or FB messenger but I don't know how they work.
[QUOTE=Rkol7;4711110]Brother mongers, is there a money transfer app that protects our anonymity? I'm unable to leave the house but I'm curious about getting pics from particular girls (yes, I know I'll probably be cheated at least once, but I'm willing to burn the money to keep myself mildly entertained). I certainly don't want the girl to see my identity. Any ideas? Thanks. The girl I'm chatting with now has suggested cash app.[/QUOTE]As far as I know cash app only shows your username and not your real name. So make your account and don't make your real name your user name.
Seems to be lots of new girls and girls who have not been on coming back on. These are the under 23 demographic.
Seeing lots of girls posting about wanting / needing money but are self quarantined or not wanting to meet in person due to what is going on.
I only laugh when I see them posting. Hoping none of you actually give them any money to them running a scam.
Can see with how things are going to be for a while meeting anyone on there is probably going to be difficult.
[QUOTE=DougF;4711250]As far as I know cash app only shows your username and not your real name. So make your account and don't make your real name your user name.[/QUOTE]Correct. I have used CashApp successfully for at least a year. It only shows whatever user name you choose. Connects to your bank card. Takes about five minutes to download.
Thanks to you all for answering my question. I guess I'll proceed with cash app then.
[QUOTE=JohnTies;4711312]Seems to be lots of new girls and girls who have not been on coming back on. These are the under 23 demographic.
Seeing lots of girls posting about wanting / needing money but are self quarantined or not wanting to meet in person due to what is going on.
I only laugh when I see them posting. Hoping none of you actually give them any money to them running a scam.
Can see with how things are going to be for a while meeting anyone on there is probably going to be difficult.[/QUOTE]Yes -- in person encounters certainly are problematic right now. Some people will think with their sex organs and not their brains. Many of the women are social distancing; some, especially those who need the money badly, apparently will still meet.
I'm so tempted to see a regular or 2, but so far my brain is winning the argument and I'm distancing.
YES. Many old faces back online hoping that men will now finally pay for photos and videos. NO!
[QUOTE=Bran001;4713034]Yes -- in person encounters certainly are problematic right now. Some people will think with their sex organs and not their brains. Many of the women are social distancing; some, especially those who need the money badly, apparently will still meet.
I'm so tempted to see a regular or 2, but so far my brain is winning the argument and I'm distancing.
YES. Many old faces back online hoping that men will now finally pay for photos and videos. NO![/QUOTE]Just as I predicted my phone is blowing up with new and old prospects. My ATF UTR that I gave up because she wanted $500 is now willing to reset our prior arrangement. So we have scheduled a date for the end of this month. My newest girl that I lined up as a replacement and I have seen once already is ready to go after the two week break. Hopefully we both clear the symptoms and we are back at it. I have opted to wait the two weeks as well because the consequences could sideline me longer.
I also have been in contact with 4 other girls from various sites and am working out details now. One asked for 600 and I just said bye without any counter offer. I am currently not a member on any of these sites and have been working around them. The return rate is slower but I haven't gone without but this latest rush for cash from the girls is making it much easier. Unfortunately I am waiting a little while to meet them. The risk is someone may scoop them up and ruin them. LOL.
I have set my maximum price at 300 and it hasn't been to hard to maintain. I am a long term guy now so bouncing around may pose another issue but with the fish biting furious now my options may change. This is probably a short term spike because the girls are losing their source of legit income. But if I can line up a few regulars for when things are back to normal I should have a full lineup for the next year or so?
The new accounts are disappearing already. They are learning, fast, that men won't pay them for pics and vids and chat while they are socially distancing.
[QUOTE=Joe1223;4713061]Just as I predicted my phone is blowing up with new and old prospects. My ATF UTR that I gave up because she wanted $500 is now willing to reset our prior arrangement. So we have scheduled a date for the end of this month. My newest girl that I lined up as a replacement and I have seen once already is ready to go after the two week break. Hopefully we both clear the symptoms and we are back at it. I have opted to wait the two weeks as well because the consequences could sideline me longer.
I also have been in contact with 4 other girls from various sites and am working out details now. One asked for 600 and I just said bye without any counter offer. I am currently not a member on any of these sites and have been working around them. The return rate is slower but I haven't gone without but this latest rush for cash from the girls is making it much easier. Unfortunately I am waiting a little while to meet them. The risk is someone may scoop them up and ruin them. LOL.
I have set my maximum price at 300 and it hasn't been to hard to maintain. I am a long term guy now so bouncing around may pose another issue but with the fish biting furious now my options may change. This is probably a short term spike because the girls are losing their source of legit income. But if I can line up a few regulars for when things are back to normal I should have a full lineup for the next year or so?[/QUOTE]You. Sir, got money. LOL! I stopped seeing those 300+ girls years ago after I turned 25. Been happy w / the cheap 60 and high 150 . I actually splurged and got a girl for 200 from eros once and this chick covered up everything. That's why I don't spend money like that no more. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=WongMichael;4717019]You. Sir, got money. LOL! I stopped seeing those 300+ girls years ago after I turned 25. Been happy w / the cheap 60 and high 150 . I actually splurged and got a girl for 200 from eros once and this chick covered up everything. That's why I don't spend money like that no more. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]200-300 is the sweet spot. More so 300. But I see 2 girls for 200 everything uncovered regularly. It takes a little effort to.
Find but there are definitely some diamonds out there.
[QUOTE=WongMichael;4717019]You. Sir, got money. LOL! I stopped seeing those 300+ girls years ago after I turned 25. Been happy w / the cheap 60 and high 150 . I actually splurged and got a girl for 200 from eros once and this chick covered up everything. That's why I don't spend money like that no more. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]The girls from Eros are VERY different from the girls from SA. You can find it all on SA; just be a nice guy, and offer 300 (no more). If you do that and can have them over to your place, you'll have more action than you can handle. (I can't have them to my place, so my options are more limited but they are THERE for sure.) You can offer no more than 200 if you want, but you'll be less busy.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4718066]The girls from Eros are VERY different from the girls from SA. You can find it all on SA; just be a nice guy, and offer 300 (no more). If you do that and can have them over to your place, you'll have more action than you can handle. (I can't have them to my place, so my options are more limited but they are THERE for sure.) You can offer no more than 200 if you want, but you'll be less busy.[/QUOTE]I find your comments to be aligned with what I've experienced.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4718066]The girls from Eros are VERY different from the girls from SA. You can find it all on SA; just be a nice guy, and offer 300 (no more). If you do that and can have them over to your place, you'll have more action than you can handle. (I can't have them to my place, so my options are more limited but they are THERE for sure.) You can offer no more than 200 if you want, but you'll be less busy.[/QUOTE]He is correct. I just rejected another girl for 500. I told her 300 because she can host. She wanted 500 for the first meeting but would do 300 after. I have a feeling it would be one and done so I told her 300 max. She said no but also said she is struggling to pay the bills. My assumption is she will be back??
I still have a lot of interested girls and they are all unemployed with rent to pay. My biggest hurdle is when can we get busy?? My main piece is waiting at least 2 weeks so I would prefer keeping her happy because she's my unicorn. Smoking hot 22 yo, major daddy issues, open minded, BB everything and we have already established what makes her wet. She has an apartment and the gift is set at 300. I am confident I'll have a full stable once this is over. Being nice and not a creep has worked really well for me for finding rookies or fresh girls. I'm totally done with the escort sites. I am totally addicted to the college girls even though most require special treatment. The only hurdle is the same as Bran, I can't host so if they cannot it's either a hotel or a pass. I did have one that was OK with car dates but she moved away.
So I have successfully used cash app for several online transactions and my anonymity seems intact. But now all my payments are canceled; cash app says they'll be refunded. I don't care about the money (it's small change for a few pics and vids) but I just want a reliable way to pay and not be identified by the SB. Has anyone else run into this with cash app? Is venmo as anonymous a service? Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Rkol7;4718815]So I have successfully used cash app for several online transactions and my anonymity seems intact. But now all my payments are canceled; cash app says they'll be refunded. I don't care about the money (it's small change for a few pics and vids) but I just want a reliable way to pay and not be identified by the SB. Has anyone else run into this with cash app? Is venmo as anonymous a service? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I believe that Cashapp is THE most anonymous of the apps. You can use any name you want. Venmo is owned by PayPal, and wants to know who you are to open an account. I did succeed in setting up a Venmo acct and then changing my name, but am not convinced.
Why do you think that Cashapp wasn't anonymous?
Obviously, anything linked to your bank account or credit card CAN be traced to you, but I don't think that Cashapp or Venmo customers / recipients have any way to do that. It's ultimately traceable, as US banking laws do not allow for anonymous ways to move cash. Think drug money, etc etc etc. If LE thinks you're taking money for selling drugs with Cashapp, they'll find you, quickly.
[QUOTE=Joe1223;4718108]The only hurdle is the same as Bran, I can't host so if they cannot it's either a hotel or a pass. I did have one that was OK with car dates but she moved away.[/QUOTE]I have little enough time, and luckily have a couple of regulars who can host. I'm really not into paying 100-200 for a day use hotel room on top of the 2-300, and now do it very rarely; usually when its someone new and I'm just curious. I did that back in my fuck buddy with married women days when that was the only expense.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4719102]I have little enough time, and luckily have a couple of regulars who can host. I'm really not into paying 100-200 for a day use hotel room on top of the 2-300, and now do it very rarely; usually when its someone new and I'm just curious. I did that back in my fuck buddy with married women days when that was the only expense.[/QUOTE]When things get better in this world and you need a place sites like priceline are the way to go. Alot have last min deals that are great and when they say they can t host tell them that you have to get a place and that is part of the deal. You should be able with everything wrapped up to be in the 250-300 range.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4719098]I believe that Cashapp is THE most anonymous of the apps. You can use any name you want. Venmo is owned by PayPal, and wants to know who you are to open an account. I did succeed in setting up a Venmo acct and then changing my name, but am not convinced.
Why do you think that Cashapp wasn't anonymous?
Obviously, anything linked to your bank account or credit card CAN be traced to you, but I don't think that Cashapp or Venmo customers / recipients have any way to do that. It's ultimately traceable, as US banking laws do not allow for anonymous ways to move cash. Think drug money, etc etc etc. If LE thinks you're taking money for selling drugs with Cashapp, they'll find you, quickly.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding to the question. It's not that I thought Cashapp wasn't anonymous; it's just that it was refunding all my payments to my SB. Well, I'm now trying venmo and hopefully that works for a while.
[QUOTE=NewEngland;4719165]When things get better in this world and you need a place sites like priceline are the way to go. Alot have last min deals that are great and when they say they can t host tell them that you have to get a place and that is part of the deal. You should be able with everything wrapped up to be in the 250-300 range.[/QUOTE]Priceline is good but they charge ridiculous fees. Many times I call the hotel direct and talk with them, they will usually give a high price at first. Negotiate and you can many times get a good deal.
Like on Priceline.
Also if I get a room to meet a SB I most definitely factor that in and when negotiating lay it all out that I am fronting for the room.
The younger ones are OK, the older more pro ones do not buy that at all.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f6016821-33e3-40dd-9ac8-aea6bddd4ffc[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bran001;4713034]Yes -- in person encounters certainly are problematic right now. Some people will think with their sex organs and not their brains. Many of the women are social distancing; some, especially those who need the money badly, apparently will still meet.
I'm so tempted to see a regular or 2, but so far my brain is winning the argument and I'm distancing.
YES. Many old faces back online hoping that men will now finally pay for photos and videos. NO![/QUOTE]Yeah, this whole CV thing is just going to provide more opportunity for the cashapp / venmo scammers.
Which, in turn, will mean less men re-upping memberships.
SA even offering 33% off for this month LOL.
This virus might kill off these sites if it continues for a long time.