The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

1) This one seems semi-pro. Wanted 500 per hour with 'almost no limits'. Balked at that price, she lowered it to 400. Seemed ok, just not worth it to me, especially with the hour time limit.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/af997ca3-b560-4f57-b1b6-17053e5c34e0[/URL]

2) Says she's 21 and lives with her parents, but she can't get away from the house without her parents tracking her phone / vehicle. Seems a little sketchy. Not sure how she ever plans to see a potential Sugar Daddy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/21dcdce8-b8cc-4848-ab4a-6d925d020ed8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Badger7;5467732]1) This one seems semi-pro. Wanted 500 per hour with 'almost no limits'. Balked at that price, she lowered it to 400. Seemed ok, just not worth it to me, especially with the hour time limit.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/af997ca3-b560-4f57-b1b6-17053e5c34e0[/URL]

2) Says she's 21 and lives with her parents, but she can't get away from the house without her parents tracking her phone / vehicle. Seems a little sketchy. Not sure how she ever plans to see a potential Sugar Daddy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/21dcdce8-b8cc-4848-ab4a-6d925d020ed8[/URL][/QUOTE]First one is a pro, nothing more, nothing less. You'd have wasted your $400 on her.

Absolutely Hell NO on the second one. Any young woman still living at home is a real no, no. The potential for issues are huge. Most mom and dad's realize when their little princess runs off to college she's probably going to mess around and experiment. You're not mentally prepared for it while she's still living at home. Even if she is indeed 21. And that brings up another good point. She might be lying about her age and you don't even want to get near that.

The longer you spend on SA. The more you'll develop a nose for weeding at the fakes, GPS women and dangers. There are some real SB's, you just got to find them!

[QUOTE=Skins755;5447650]Pretty sure she has been reviewed a few times on the Greensboro Board, well known pro / semi pro, mixed reviews on skills.[/QUOTE]I saw that chick last year. I gave her 100 & maybe 50 worth of booze had her for about 2 hours & she wanted to move in with me. She's a alcoholic!! Definitely a pro!!

They have further restricted access to the free part of their membership. Seems they are losing paid subscriptions and trying to force new ones by doing such. Was browsing the free section and noticed hardly anything pulls up now, really hoping they lose more business and go under.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;5473448]They have further restricted access to the free part of their membership. Seems they are losing paid subscriptions and trying to force new ones by doing such. Was browsing the free section and noticed hardly anything pulls up now, really hoping they lose more business and go under.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, you don't care for SA. But where else do you go to find a consistent flow of sugar babies? SA is duly subject to some criticism but they are a game changer in the sugar baby, sugar daddy world. Yeah, you have to diligently work the website without the fakes and reel in the real sugar babies but if you work it consistently you can find no less than 5 to 10 real sugar babies a week that are willing to meet with you.

There has never been any other venue that gets that type of action. It does require patience and dedication though.

If you have a better source, trust me I'm all ears. LOL.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;5473698]Fair enough, you don't care for SA. But where else do you go to find a consistent flow of sugar babies? SA is duly subject to some criticism but they are a game changer in the sugar baby, sugar daddy world. Yeah, you have to diligently work the website without the fakes and reel in the real sugar babies but if you work it consistently you can find no less than 5 to 10 real sugar babies a week that are willing to meet with you.

There has never been any other venue that gets that type of action. It does require patience and dedication though.

If you have a better source, trust me I'm all ears. LOL.[/QUOTE]I cannot give you a good answer to that but if you are finding 5 to 10 legitimate ones to meet than you are doing better than anyone I ever knew. Maybe you can share them on here as every post I read refers to GPS or a scammer and usually both. Three years ago was the last time I could even justify using that site.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;5473698]Fair enough, you don't care for SA. But where else do you go to find a consistent flow of sugar babies? SA is duly subject to some criticism but they are a game changer in the sugar baby, sugar daddy world. Yeah, you have to diligently work the website without the fakes and reel in the real sugar babies but if you work it consistently you can find no less than 5 to 10 real sugar babies a week that are willing to meet with you.

There has never been any other venue that gets that type of action. It does require patience and dedication though.

If you have a better source, trust me I'm all ears. LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree with DirtyDeeds. I am currently talking to 3 who want to meet in the coming week. But I know I can't because of work. One though, I must confess, said she had been escorting for a while.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;5474754]I cannot give you a good answer to that but if you are finding 5 to 10 legitimate ones to meet than you are doing better than anyone I ever knew. Maybe you can share them on here as every post I read refers to GPS or a scammer and usually both. Three years ago was the last time I could even justify using that site.[/QUOTE]I agree with you it has changed. There are more fake profiles, more scams but there's also more women on there in general. I don't have some specific formula but generally I just have a nose for like the overglamorized, profiles. The ridiculously hot chicks with perfect pictures. Usually are scammers. I go for ordinary, girl next-door, even some of the older gals can be great. Don't go for the supermodel ridiculously hot looking chicks that have been on there. Every once in a while some of them might be real but not many. Or even if they're real, they have ridiculous standards.

I feel like for the point of sugar dating it's kind of to revisit your youth. Revisit your college years when there was action everywhere or maybe there was action everywhere but you didn't partake in it. Or maybe you got married young and didn't get to chase all the women. LOL it's a last chance to stop to have fun. So for me, I go for the women that are obtainable. Top preference for me or the younger women who actually enjoy the company of an older guy. And they are out there. A lot of them. The perfect scenario is a girl isn't just doing it for the money. She actually enjoys hanging out with you. When you achieve that status you're going to have a great time. If she seems highly "transactional" to me, I move along.

At the end of the day, for me and my approach having worked the site off and on for six years, you're going to have some bad experiences you're going to have some experiences where you spend a lot of time talking to somebody and then they flake out or they ask for money for gas or something at the last second and you have to drop them. But if you continue to communicate and do a good job of it I'm telling you after a month you'll have had some pretty darn good experiences off of there. And at the end of the day that's what we're all looking for.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;5475594]I agree with DirtyDeeds. I am currently talking to 3 who want to meet in the coming week. But I know I can't because of work. One though, I must confess, said she had been escorting for a while.[/QUOTE]Very nice. The one that's admitted to scoring. Would she be willing to share with senior members? Been debating on trying SA again but do not have the time for games currently.

Sent an intro message to this girl. Got a reply saying I should come stop by and see her at Capital Cabaret. Cute girl but not sure if she's genuinely into sugar dating or just using site to bring in customers. Anyone have any experience with her? Don't really feel like dropping cash on dances to find out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/85875e31-c296-48c0-ace0-3dda2de409b8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Badger7;5481821]Sent an intro message to this girl. Got a reply saying I should come stop by and see her at Capital Cabaret. Cute girl but not sure if she's genuinely into sugar dating or just using site to bring in customers. Anyone have any experience with her? Don't really feel like dropping cash on dances to find out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/85875e31-c296-48c0-ace0-3dda2de409b8[/URL][/QUOTE]I like strippers in the strip club, but not for sugar dating. Just like a former pro, they just have a certain attitude that is very "Wham! Bam thank you ma'am". Rush, in and out, and not capable of providing a true SB experience. Nothing wrong with a stripper, if that's your thing, but you're highly unlikely to get a true GFE.

I was chatting with a former pro turned SB the other day, She almost had me convinced that we should meet and hang out until she mentioned "hourly". I quit talking to her at that point. If they've been a pro or something similar they just don't understand or are capable of understanding what a real sugar baby is.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;5482415]I like strippers in the strip club, but not for sugar dating. Just like a former pro, they just have a certain attitude that is very "Wham! Bam thank you ma'am". Rush, in and out, and not capable of providing a true SB experience. Nothing wrong with a stripper, if that's your thing, but you're highly unlikely to get a true GFE.

I was chatting with a former pro turned SB the other day, She almost had me convinced that we should meet and hang out until she mentioned "hourly". I quit talking to her at that point. If they've been a pro or something similar they just don't understand or are capable of understanding what a real sugar baby is.[/QUOTE]Met one yet that didn't dislike men in general and perhaps rightfully so but as a rule I avoid them.

You are spot on in your assessment.

These two won't "play for less than 2 xxx". Lols. I'm case anyone was curious.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f7e486cd-ad9c-4436-8a21-e571a44f4fdc[/URL]

They are just wired that way. They can't turn it off once they leave the club. Recently had something lined up with one that claimed she left the "pole lyfe" over 10 years ago. Then she started adding upgrades to what we agreed on in advance. If I see a hint of club's or lockers in the background of their pictures I just move on.

Mermaidd78.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/342518e7-3298-4718-a09d-7821bc0a2752[/URL]

Wants 600 ppm.

ChillFairy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9237be2e-9bfa-4a48-b8de-03f84237d203[/URL]

Wants 500 ppm. Oh BTW no sex.

Adventureseeker.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/96c2fefe-ae81-49f8-9dba-9074033ccbb0[/URL]

Offered 300. She wants more. Dint pursue further.

G.

[QUOTE=Gatttaca;5488757]Mermaidd78.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/342518e7-3298-4718-a09d-7821bc0a2752[/URL]

Wants 600 ppm.

Adventureseeker.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/96c2fefe-ae81-49f8-9dba-9074033ccbb0[/URL]

Offered 300. She wants more. Dint pursue further.

G.[/QUOTE]I offered Mermaidd78 $350 PPM recently and she just replied "Best of luck".

I think AdventureGirl was reviewed here earlier this spring.

The tarot card reader is on S. B. Now. She isn't on stg anymore so maybe more discreet. Probably a 50% chance of her returning your text after you get there but she is still around.

Left a message to a SB for quite sometime. Just got below response. Not disclosing the name just yet. Will keep you guys posted and post her name if I pass. But I need fellow experienced expert opinion.

Hi there!! I get a lot of messages on here so I'm going to be upfront with what I'm looking for (: I'm married and my husband loves watching me with other men, it's our thing and I'm not willing to meet up without him around. Also, I would love to meet someone who is open to filming content for my * page! If you're still interested hit me up & we can meet up for dinner or something to see if we click (: if you're not interested please don't write back & waste each others time. I hope it's something you're interested in & I would love to get to know you better!!

Thought?

[QUOTE=Maxamillion8;5491653]Left a message to a SB for quite sometime. Just got below response. Not disclosing the name just yet. Will keep you guys posted and post her name if I pass. But I need fellow experienced expert opinion.

Hi there!! I get a lot of messages on here so I'm going to be upfront with what I'm looking for (: I'm married and my husband loves watching me with other men, it's our thing and I'm not willing to meet up without him around. Also, I would love to meet someone who is open to filming content for my * page! If you're still interested hit me up & we can meet up for dinner or something to see if we click (: if you're not interested please don't write back & waste each others time. I hope it's something you're interested in & I would love to get to know you better!!

Thought?[/QUOTE]Does the ad have a photo showing a woman sitting down? Only the legs and the chair are shown, the photo was taken facing her. If so, proceed with caution, I was given a response similar to the above, said I was interested, and the reply was that they'd want a $$ deposit before we met. I didn't bother replying to that.

[QUOTE=Gatttaca;5488757]Mermaidd78.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/342518e7-3298-4718-a09d-7821bc0a2752[/URL]

Wants 600 ppm.

ChillFairy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9237be2e-9bfa-4a48-b8de-03f84237d203[/URL]

Wants 500 ppm. Oh BTW no sex.

Adventureseeker.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/96c2fefe-ae81-49f8-9dba-9074033ccbb0[/URL]

Offered 300. She wants more. Dint pursue further.

G.[/QUOTE]Exchanged texts with adventuregirl. Didn't sound like she wanted anything more than a paid M&G.

[QUOTE=Maxamillion8;5491653]Left a message to a SB for quite sometime. Just got below response. Not disclosing the name just yet. Will keep you guys posted and post her name if I pass. But I need fellow experienced expert opinion.

Hi there!! I get a lot of messages on here so I'm going to be upfront with what I'm looking for (: I'm married and my husband loves watching me with other men, it's our thing and I'm not willing to meet up without him around. Also, I would love to meet someone who is open to filming content for my * page! If you're still interested hit me up & we can meet up for dinner or something to see if we click (: if you're not interested please don't write back & waste each others time. I hope it's something you're interested in & I would love to get to know you better!!

Thought?[/QUOTE]Marriedmom4 dom?

I'm with Deeds. Coming back after an 18 month relationship ran out of gas. I'm having absolutely no issues meeting young ladies. I'm a long term searcher, never fuck on the first date, so a different mode than a lot of guys, but I'm stacking up the second dates at this point and not sure how I can manage them all. After 3 weeks back I have at least a dozen opportunities on the hook. Hell, the second date planned for tomorrow night made sure we were going to fuck and doesn't want an allowance because she doesn't want to commit. Fine with me!

TD.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;5473698]Fair enough, you don't care for SA. But where else do you go to find a consistent flow of sugar babies? SA is duly subject to some criticism but they are a game changer in the sugar baby, sugar daddy world. Yeah, you have to diligently work the website without the fakes and reel in the real sugar babies but if you work it consistently you can find no less than 5 to 10 real sugar babies a week that are willing to meet with you.

There has never been any other venue that gets that type of action. It does require patience and dedication though.

If you have a better source, trust me I'm all ears. LOL.[/QUOTE]

Can ask are you paying and how much for that first date you don't have sex with them sir?

[QUOTE=TheDistance;5492710]I'm with Deeds. Coming back after an 18 month relationship ran out of gas. I'm having absolutely no issues meeting young ladies. I'm a long term searcher, never fuck on the first date, so a different mode than a lot of guys, but I'm stacking up the second dates at this point and not sure how I can manage them all. After 3 weeks back I have at least a dozen opportunities on the hook. Hell, the second date planned for tomorrow night made sure we were going to fuck and doesn't want an allowance because she doesn't want to commit. Fine with me!

TD.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Banger12;5492510]Marriedmom4 dom?[/QUOTE]Nope, FunBunny1.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8f122b5b-af17-4354-94c9-3c2270d42608[/URL]

Seems the scammer has been copy pasting everyone. I replied her about meeting in public. But seems she has not checked the message yet.

[QUOTE=Bachelor1234;5493148]Nope, FunBunny1.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8f122b5b-af17-4354-94c9-3c2270d42608[/URL][/QUOTE]

Met this one. Would not repeat. PM if you want more information. Happy hunting.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bc76032b-d185-460c-a6de-bb3938302b1a[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisHansen92;5492883]Can ask are you paying and how much for that first date you don't have sex with them sir?[/QUOTE]I let them pick where we have lunch or dinner. I don't pay someone to have a meal with me, except for the meal itself. Sometimes that's a nice place, and sometimes it's not. I usually suggest an upgrade if it's not.

If it goes well, I'll venmo a little something afterwards, but that's a complete surprise to them and is usually met with a "You don't need to do that!" type response.

Interestingly, I've had no requests for gas money up front, first date payment, sitter money or car repair funds this time around. Hell, one of the girls offered to cover the tip!

[QUOTE=TheDistance;5496235]I let them pick where we have lunch or dinner. I don't pay someone to have a meal with me, except for the meal itself. Sometimes that's a nice place, and sometimes it's not. I usually suggest an upgrade if it's not.

If it goes well, I'll venmo a little something afterwards, but that's a complete surprise to them and is usually met with a "You don't need to do that!" type response.

Interestingly, I've had no requests for gas money up front, first date payment, sitter money or car repair funds this time around. Hell, one of the girls offered to cover the tip![/QUOTE]Did Julia Roberts ever respond to you on there? While everyone else either gets scammed or just the usual waste of text with these frauds and time wasters it is you that's taking all the good ones away from us.

[QUOTE=TheDistance;5496235]I let them pick where we have lunch or dinner. I don't pay someone to have a meal with me, except for the meal itself. Sometimes that's a nice place, and sometimes it's not. I usually suggest an upgrade if it's not.

If it goes well, I'll venmo a little something afterwards, but that's a complete surprise to them and is usually met with a "You don't need to do that!" type response.

Interestingly, I've had no requests for gas money up front, first date payment, sitter money or car repair funds this time around. Hell, one of the girls offered to cover the tip![/QUOTE]Does one use a fake / anonymous name with Venmo.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5497380]Does one use a fake / anonymous name with Venmo.[/QUOTE]I've been able to set up my Venmo in a manner that whenever I send a payment to someone, it gives a false name that I've entered. However, because it's linked directly to you and your bank / card accounts, in the event of a litigious event, it would be absolutely a breeze to find out who you are. For that reason, I don't use Venmo and other digital payment platforms for the hobby. And I would advise others against it as well, UNLESS, the payment was sent for something not 'play' related and you can prove it or you've established a long term relationship with the person and you trust them.

Be safe out there.

Anyone have suggestions on how to purchase a SA membership without using a real credit card? In the past they accepted Vanilla prepaid cards, but I just tried to use a vanilla card and as I entered the card number a message popped up - "we do not accept most pre paid cards. Consider using a major credit card. " I would appreciate any suggestions on options for membership without a direct link to my real card info.

[QUOTE=Wheaton278;5498368]Anyone have suggestions on how to purchase a SA membership without using a real credit card? In the past they accepted Vanilla prepaid cards, but I just tried to use a vanilla card and as I entered the card number a message popped up - "we do not accept most pre paid cards. Consider using a major credit card. " I would appreciate any suggestions on options for membership without a direct link to my real card info.[/QUOTE]Vanilla Cards have always worked for me. I've even renewed a couple of times even though it gave me that warning message. They want your money.

LOL! I don't think I aim as high as some guys do here, and there are a lot of cute students (or milfs, my last sb was 47 when we met, but was a fitness professional and easily could have passed for ten years younger, and she may be on track to get me back) who are looking for stability and consistency.

I'm not a high roller, but I'm genuine and a gentleman. You can follow my history on this site over a lot of years. I don't waste a lot of time with someone that there isn't some pretty good open communication from the start. I don't negotiate, so I don't waste a lot of time with someone who isn't in alignment.

I'm single and that might also make a difference.

Lunch dates Tuesday and Wednesday will wrap up my month. I canceled a dinner date tonight because there just wasn't any traction.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;5497321]Did Julia Roberts ever respond to you on there? While everyone else either gets scammed or just the usual waste of text with these frauds and time wasters it is you that's taking all the good ones away from us.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly. Both in sugar dating and vanilla dating, people sour themselves to the game by chasing things that clearly aren't working. People actively curate their hobbies, careers, and social circles, why not apply it to dating as well?

You're just bound to have a much better time by linking up with likeminded people who you don't have to struggle with them to align with you.

If I get ghosted once, that's it, I'm done. If it takes her 2 days to respond to a simple text, I'm done before it even started. Just like you said, you don't need to be a high roller, being genuine and consistent is more than enough, AND APPRECIATED GREATLY, for the right people.

I don't understand people chasing women who have ridiculous expectations for dates and fighting for her attention the entire date, hoping to get her to take her eyes off her Snapchat account for more than 5 minutes. How is that fun for anyone?

You're worth it, guys. You're worth being treated with appreciation.

[QUOTE=TheDistance;5498704]LOL! I don't think I aim as high as some guys do here, and there are a lot of cute students (or milfs, my last sb was 47 when we met, but was a fitness professional and easily could have passed for ten years younger, and she may be on track to get me back) who are looking for stability and consistency.

I'm not a high roller, but I'm genuine and a gentleman. You can follow my history on this site over a lot of years. I don't waste a lot of time with someone that there isn't some pretty good open communication from the start. I don't negotiate, so I don't waste a lot of time with someone who isn't in alignment.

I'm single and that might also make a difference.

Lunch dates Tuesday and Wednesday will wrap up my month. I canceled a dinner date tonight because there just wasn't any traction.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/affbfbaa-67d5-4cf3-8952-36e36c80b67f[/URL]

Been talking with this one on and off for a few days now via a popular social media platform, so I know that she is real. That's where the positives end sadly.

Impossible to set anything up with. Completely avoids the conversation of meeting up for anything. Even just a meet and greet for coffee. She won't even talk about the arrangement itself. Yet, she is more than happy to send dozens of videos and pictures of her naked each day. Note that I haven't sent her a dime yet; but I sure have offered to!

Anyone tried her yet? Not sure what the deal is.

I sent her msg on SA. She reads the message but has not replied yet. Siprised her username is "Hi".

https://www.seeking.com/member/affbfbaa-67d5-4cf3-8952-36e36c80b67f

[QUOTE=Maxamillion8;5491653]Left a message to a SB for quite sometime. Just got below response. Not disclosing the name just yet. Will keep you guys posted and post her name if I pass. But I need fellow experienced expert opinion.

Hi there!! I get a lot of messages on here so I'm going to be upfront with what I'm looking for (: I'm married and my husband loves watching me with other men, it's our thing and I'm not willing to meet up without him around. Also, I would love to meet someone who is open to filming content for my * page! If you're still interested hit me up & we can meet up for dinner or something to see if we click (: if you're not interested please don't write back & waste each others time. I hope it's something you're interested in & I would love to get to know you better!!

Thought?[/QUOTE]Sounds like the classic cuckold fetish, which is probably more prevalent out there than we realize. If it were me and assuming she fits what you look for, I would definitely meet the two of them for a drink, beer, etc and then size up the guy in terms of being genuine about the cuckold. If they can host but you are still concerned about the risk then ask them if she is up for an MFM. I have done over a dozen MFMs and would be available as needed. Just PM me.

[QUOTE=Biscuits1234;5504849][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/affbfbaa-67d5-4cf3-8952-36e36c80b67f[/URL]

Been talking with this one on and off for a few days now via a popular social media platform, so I know that she is real. That's where the positives end sadly.

Impossible to set anything up with. Completely avoids the conversation of meeting up for anything. Even just a meet and greet for coffee. She won't even talk about the arrangement itself. Yet, she is more than happy to send dozens of videos and pictures of her naked each day. Note that I haven't sent her a dime yet; but I sure have offered to!

Anyone tried her yet? Not sure what the deal is.[/QUOTE]UPDATE:

I moved on from this one. I've been trying for almost a week now and still no dice. She constantly sends live nudes and videos of her playing with herself yet will not entertain so much as the IDEA of us meeting up. Even for a coffee! I think she either just gets off on the idea of meeting up with someone, or is extremely shy / new to this game.

Today I finally went direct and asked what size allowance it would take to meet up with her (as I have yet to send her any money at all and figured that was the cause of the cold feet). She proceeded to tell me that she magically started her monthly cycle today (meaning she can't meet for a week-ish now) and then curved the topic completely.

Luck is either against me or she is playing games. Regardless, I have no tolerance for wasting my time. If anyone has any luck with this one, please do let me know how the hell you got through fog.

[QUOTE=Biscuits1234;5509717]UPDATE:

I moved on from this one. I've been trying for almost a week now and still no dice. She constantly sends live nudes and videos of her playing with herself yet will not entertain so much as the IDEA of us meeting up. Even for a coffee! I think she either just gets off on the idea of meeting up with someone, or is extremely shy / new to this game.

Today I finally went direct and asked what size allowance it would take to meet up with her (as I have yet to send her any money at all and figured that was the cause of the cold feet). She proceeded to tell me that she magically started her monthly cycle today (meaning she can't meet for a week-ish now) and then curved the topic completely.

Luck is either against me or she is playing games. Regardless, I have no tolerance for wasting my time. If anyone has any luck with this one, please do let me know how the hell you got through fog.[/QUOTE]Of Anna from S. B. Last year. Every excuse you could think of. The best one was her parents wouldn't let her leave the house. She was 23 years old.

I'm getting pretty bored of staying in the house and looking to sign back up for the site.

Any chance of a sale or promo code in the next week or so?