Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=NewDude;4878045]For anyone interested, I'm in the medical field. Delusional Americans and republican ghouls are asking you to trust a conman, and people who admit they're not a news organization, and ignore scientist, doctors, and other medical personnel that see what's going on. It's getting bad here in Atlanta guys, and it will be very bad in the next 30 days if a legitimate treatment is cleared soon. Remdesvir is barely better than a placebo at this point without more data to analyze. Be very careful, and don't listen to any idiot that tells you to ignore the people that decided to study science and pay an outrageous amount of money for secondary education only to get raped by taxes in the US, all so they can treat and help sick people. We will all know why China was burning bodied very soon if people continue to be idiots.[/QUOTE]I used to work in the medical field and I agree with your sentiments 100%.

Anyone who isn't a Low IQ Deplorable partisan swamp rat is going to listen to medical professionals and expert epidemiologists like Fauci before they listen to a lying piece of shit like Trump and Pence.

Hell yeah I'm wearing a mask every time I step outside. I aint no weak pussy that needs to b*tch and moan about a flimsy piece of fabric or cloth on my face for a couple hours. How did a previous American generation endure the Great Depression and work overtime shifts every day for 4 years fighting the Nazis and Japanese, but our generation of crybaby Boomers and Gen X'ers can't even wear a mask when they go to a public place? I really hate these MAGA Pussies calling themselves Americans. I wasn't raised to be a crybaby and a spineless cuck. I was raised to be a tough Democrat mofo and damn proud of it.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;4878370]Under Team Orange, the US Treasury racked up a RECORD deficit of over $800 billion in June.[/QUOTE]Orange Lying Scumbag calls this "winning" LOL.

I will laugh until my dying days whenever I hear the oft-repeated myth that Republicans are for "small government and small debt". Between Dubya's illegal war in Iraq and Trump's mind-boggling incompetence, America has racked up over 8 or 9 trillion in debt and economic losses over three terms of those two clowns. Both of them were businessmen that supposedly knew how to run an economy better than Democrats, can you believe that horse shit?

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4878167]Only listen to the educated idiots who went in debt $100,000's for an education. Fauci, exec staff at CDC, NIH, WHO, etc.[/QUOTE]This is the mindset of the Deplorable Swamp Rats. Low IQ idiots who were too afraid to take chemistry and physics in high school and now bitter at "elites" who have the job security, six-figure salaries and nice homes in posh neighborhoods.

The Democrat-centric urban centers are becoming larger every year and rural and small town America is dying off. The MAGA-Sheep are losing all their job opportunities. They deserve all the pain and misery coming their way if they keep voting for selfish billionaires who don't give a squirt of piss about them except pushing their ideology.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4877857]Back in April when people were dying all you heard about was "death count" now that hardly anybody (and yes, 1000 people a day in the USA is hardly anybody)[/QUOTE]This could be one of the most ignorant things I ever read on this board.

If a 1000 people a day were dying from airline crashes they would ground all air traffic within a few hours.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;4877040]It's not, though. The protests (to my surprise) have resulted in very few infection cases, I assume because the protests are outside[/QUOTE]You must be an idiot to believe this bullshit.

Let me guess, you must be watching CNN all day long.

[QUOTE=TheBobster;4879008]I deal extensively with personnel at the CDC, Emory, NIH, etc. To a "T", I would trust their opinion over any that come from the current administration (perhaps with the exception of Redfield; he is where he is for a reason). Currently, the CDC, doctors, NIH, etc. Are the villains of the day. There has been absolutely no acceptance of blame from the current administration, as they proclaim they are "doing a great job. " Hey, go ahead and accept that BS, but we had ample opportunity to get ready, as shown in the following timeline. Remember one thing. We were assured that this pandemic "was under control" and that it is now "a hoax. " Nothing farther from the truth, and attempts to wish or pray it away have not, and will not work. There are third world nations that have handled this pandemic much better than we have, which quite honestly is shocking. So for those attempting to vilify "educated idiots", a little trip for you down memory lane:

Jan 8th. First CDC warning.

Jan 14th. Trump campaign rally.

Jan 18th. Trump golfs.

Jan 19th. Trump golfs.

Jan 20: "I know more about viruses than anyone. " . "My uncle was a professor at MIT. ".

Jan 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. It's going to be just fine. ".

Jan 28th. Trump campaign rally.

Jan 30th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 1st. Trump golfs.

Feb 2: "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. ".

Feb 10th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 12th. Dow Jones closes at an all time high of 29,551. 42.

Feb 15 h. Trump golfs.

Feb 19th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 20th. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 21st. Trump campaign rally.

Feb 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

Feb 25: "CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus. ".

Feb 25: "I think that's a problem that's going to go away. They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we're very close to a vaccine. ".

Feb 26: "The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. ".

Feb 26th - "We're going very substantially down, not up. " Also "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner. ".

Feb 27: "One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear. ".

Feb 28th. Trump campaign rally. "This is their new hoax. ".

Feb 28: "We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical. ".

March 2nd - "You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?

March 2: Trump falsely claims "nobody knew" the number of US flu deaths, nope he's the only one that doesn't know as usual.

March 2: Trump says a vaccine is coming "relatively soon" Trump did not mention that CDC had told him earlier that day that a vaccine was "a year to a year and a half" away.

March 4: "If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work some of them go to work, but they get better. ".

March 5th - "I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work. " (Trump realizing, he screwed up again).

March 5: Trump wrongly claims the virus only hit the US "three weeks ago" Trump was informed of a confirmed case on January 21 (6 weeks prior). He lied.

March 5: World Health Organization (WHO) based on data collected around the world stated the global mortality rate for coronavirus at 3. 4%. Trump says:"I think the 3. 4 % is really a false number, this is just my "Hunch"! (Hunch over Facts in Trumps world).

Mar 5: "The United States. Has, as of now, only 129 cases. And 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!

Mar 6: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president. ".

Mar 6: "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault. ".

March 6: As the number of cases and deaths in Italy rises, Trump says.

"I hear the numbers getting much better in Italy" Another Lie.

March 6: Trump falsely claims anybody can get tested if they want. That wasn't true. There were an insufficient number of tests available, as Pence said the day prior, and Americans could not get tested simply because they wanted to get tested. "You may not get a test unless a doctor or public health official prescribes a test.

March 6: Trump baselessly muses that "maybe" the coronavirus improved US jobs numbers, Trump never thinks in terms of people and families losing lives. Just numbers to boost his ego.

March 7th. Trump golfs.

March 8th. Trump golfs.

March 8th - "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. ".

March 9th - "This blindsided the world. ".

March 9th Stock Market Crash Part I.

March 11: Trump TV speech wrongly states Insurance companies will pay for patients Coronavirus treatment. Next day Insurance Coalition corrected Trump and said they will pay ONLY for Co-payments, NOT Treatment. Big Difference!

March 11: Trump TV speech wrongly states his Travel Ban to Europe will "apply to the tremendous amount of trade and large". Next day White House Officials corrected Trump misinformation and said" Travel ban will NOT include trade! Trumps can't even read a Teleprompter correctly.

March 11: Trump's Ban to Europe does NOT include Britain and Scotland, were there are more confirmed coronavirus cases than in some European countries.

For those of you complaining about Trump being blamed for the coronavirus / COVID-19 pandemic:

I thought I would post a little history lesson for everyone on both sides of the political divide. I think it's important that we understand the truth, especially come November when it's time to vote. Forgive the length, but hey, we all have time on our hands to read, correct?

In December 2013, an 18-month-old boy in Guinea was bitten by a bat and died a brutal death a day later. After that, there were five more fatal cases. When Ebola spread out of the Guinea borders into neighboring Liberia and Sierra Leone in July 2014, President Obama activated the Emergency Operations Center at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. The CDC immediately deployed CDC personnel to West Africa to coordinate a response that included vector tracing, testing, education, logistics, and communication.

Altogether, the CDC, under President Obama, trained 24,655 medical workers in West Africa, educating them on how to prevent and control the disease before a single case left Africa or reached the USA.

Working with the you. And. And the World Health Organization President Obama ordered the re-routing of travelers heading to the USA Through certain specific airports equipped to handle mass testing.

Back home in America, more than 6,500 people were trained through mock outbreaks and practice scenarios. That was done before a single case hit America.

Three months after President Obama activated this unprecedented response, on September 30,2014, we detected our first case in the USA A man had traveled from West Africa to Dallas and somehow slipped through the testing protocol. He was immediately detected and isolated. He died a week later. Two nurses who tended to him contracted Ebola but later recovered. All the protocols had worked. It was contained.

The Ebola epidemic could have easily become a pandemic, but thanks to the actions of our government under President Obama, it never did. Those THREE EBOLA CONFIRMED CASES were the ONLY cases of Ebola in the USA Because Obama did what needed to be done THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIRST CASE.

Ebola is even more contagious than COVID-19. Had Obama not acted swiftly, millions of Americans would have died horrible, painful, deaths like something out of a horror movie (if you've never seen how Ebola kills, it's horrific).

It is ironic because since President Obama acted decisively we forget about his actions since the disease never reached our shores.

Now the story of COVID-19 and Trump's response that we know about thus far:

Before anyone even knew about the disease (even in China) Trump disbanded the pandemic response team that Obama had put in place. He cut funding to the CDC, and he cut our contribution to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Trump fired Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the person on the National Security Council in charge of stopping the spread of infectious diseases before they reach our country. A position created by the Obama administration.

When the outbreak started in China, Trump assumed it was China's problem and sent no research, supplies or help of any kind. We were in a trade war, why should he help them?

In January he received a briefing from our intelligence organizations that the outbreak was much worse than China was admitting and that it would definitely hit our country if something wasn't done to prevent it. He ignored the report, not trusting our own intelligence.

When the disease spread to Europe, the World Health Organization offered a plethora of tests to the United States. Trump turned them down, saying private companies here would make the tests "better" if we needed them. However, he never ordered USA Companies to make tests and they had no profit motive to do so on their own.

According to scientists at Yale and several public university medical schools, when they asked for permission to start working on our own testing protocol and potential treatments or vaccines, they were denied by Trump's FDA.

When Trump knew about the first case in the United States he did nothing. It was just one case and the patient was isolated. When doctors and scientists started screaming in the media that this was a mistake, Trump claimed it was a "liberal hoax" conjured up to try to make him "look bad after impeachment failed. ".

The next time Trump spoke of COVID-19, we had SIXTY-FOUR CONFIRMED CASES but Trump went before microphones and told the American public that we only had FIFTEEN cases "and pretty soon that number will be close to zero. " All while the disease was spreading, he took no action to get more tests.

What Trump did was to stop flights from China from coming here. This was too late and accomplished nothing according to scientists and doctors. By then the disease was worldwide and was already spreading exponentially in the USA By Americans, not Chinese people as Trump would like you to believe.[/QUOTE]Good God. Day 4 or 5 of an ongoing meth experience? In March Fauci called it a flu, take a cruise if you want, no masks needed, the CDC #2 said China virus was contained, NY Health comm said get out, go to the Chinatown festival, don't believe racist Orangeman.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4879455]Good God. Day 4 or 5 of an ongoing meth experience? In March Fauci called it a flu, take a cruise if you want, no masks needed, the CDC #2 said China virus was contained, NY Health comm said get out, go to the Chinatown festival, don't believe racist Orangeman.[/QUOTE]I did notice that long laundry list was strictly one sided. Nothing about what the libtards did and were saying.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4879622]I did notice that long laundry list was strictly one sided. Nothing about what the libtards did and were saying.[/QUOTE]So please, go ahead and correct what was posted. So easy to call someone a name, with absolutely no substance. This clusterfuck has been a total failure, and the fish rots at the head. Prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=TheBobster;4880195]So please, go ahead and correct what was posted. So easy to call someone a name, with absolutely no substance. This clusterfuck has been a total failure, and the fish rots at the head. Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]Let's see now. Strongest economy in decades. Stock market at all time high. Unemployment at all time low, especially for Blacks and Hispanics. Taking China on and correctly identifying them as the world enemies that they are. And those things are just for starters. All of these things were in place BEFORE the pre-planned and pre-orchestrated Covid pandemic, of course. And as I write this I know that this is an exercise in futility as far as getting someone like you to even begin to try to see another side to all of this. You are a hater. You will come up with seemingly logical rebuttals to everything that I have just said out of your misguided and pathological hatred of the man, as flawed as he may be. But, you are not going to get away with making the outrageous and completely erroneous claim that you just made, that he has been a total failure. Maybe in your eyes, and you have a right to your opinion, but not in the eyes of many, many of us out here. You can provide all the long lists of nuanced "failures" that you attribute to him all you like. I don't care. If you do though, I will take you on. I can imagine the reply going on in your head right now but I don't care. Long nuanced lists don't scare me. In fact, nothing scares me especially haters like you who provide no other alternative solution to your hate except more hate. None of us has to prove anything to you because no amount of proof is going to change your approach so go ahead and do what you have to do. We will all wait for your predictable response.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4879176]Let me guess, you must be watching CNN all day long.[/QUOTE]CNN and MSNBC have won journalism awards for over 40 years now.

Fox Fake News is officially classified as "entertainment" and not news. Which means President Biden can shut it down and ain't a damn thing the MAGA-Tards can do about it except cry.

America will be great again when a strong and powerful Democrat takes power on January 20 and drains the Trump Swamp of all the filth and stench.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4879622]I did notice that long laundry list was strictly one sided. Nothing about what the libtards did and were saying.[/QUOTE]The President was definitely given some bad information by both Fauchi and Birx, that combined with the unsafe protests and sadly we have hit a round two.

The President saved millions of lives in phase one and now in phase two he is showing the same leadership holding the country together. The riots protests and shootings are generally happening in Democratic run cities but he has offered to help if they can't handle it.

So far they can't.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4879176]You must be an idiot to believe this bullshit.

Let me guess, you must be watching CNN all day long.[/QUOTE] In NYC, where there were massive protests for weeks the infection rate stayed low. So show us the data linking the protests to COVID outbreaks. Let me guess, you must be watching the fake news network all day long.

"Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" ~ Ronald Reagan.

The answer for a majority of Americans today is a resounding "HELL NO!

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MV7MZPLRtE[/URL]

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4880345]Let's see now. Strongest economy in decades. Stock market at all time high. Unemployment at all time low, especially for Blacks and Hispanics. Taking China on and correctly identifying them as the world enemies that they are. And those things are just for starters. All of these things were in place BEFORE the pre-planned and pre-orchestrated Covid pandemic, of course. And as I write this I know that this is an exercise in futility as far as getting someone like you to even begin to try to see another side to all of this. You are a hater. You will come up with seemingly logical rebuttals to everything that I have just said out of your misguided and pathological hatred of the man, as flawed as he may be. But, you are not going to get away with making the outrageous and completely erroneous claim that you just made, that he has been a total failure. Maybe in your eyes, and you have a right to your opinion, but not in the eyes of many, many of us out here. You can provide all the long lists of nuanced "failures" that you attribute to him all you like. I don't care. If you do though, I will take you on. I can imagine the reply going on in your head right now but I don't care. Long nuanced lists don't scare me. In fact, nothing scares me especially haters like you who provide no other alternative solution to your hate except more hate. None of us has to prove anything to you because no amount of proof is going to change your approach so go ahead and do what you have to do. We will all wait for your predictable response.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBobster;4880195]So please, go ahead and correct what was posted. So easy to call someone a name, with absolutely no substance. This clusterfuck has been a total failure, and the fish rots at the head. Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]What about Cuomo Ordering nursing homes and rehab centers to take in COVID patience resulting in thousands of needless deaths.

What about Murphy doing the same thing in NJ?

What about Wolf ordering the same thing in PA?

Those 3 states account for a huge number of COVID deaths!

What about Pelosi telling people to head on out to Chinatown after Trump talked about people staying home unless necessary?

What about DeBlase telling people to come on and visit the Big Apple about the same time as Pelosi at China Town?

What about the Leftist, Never Trumper, TrumpDerangedSyndrome excrement's who called Trump all sorts of names after he closed flights from China?

[QUOTE=Admin2;4869297]Learn something.

[URL]https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad%20hominem[/URL]

Why in the fuck would I make a fake account? I'm an admin, I can do what I want with this account. You really are a special kind of stupid.[/QUOTE]You really are a special kind of boring.

I'm glad that you'll never know anyone like this Doctor Dipshit. On my team of 7, we've lost about 5 extended and immediate relatives. So go ahead and tell us all how it's done.

I wonder how many people have listened to idiots like you. And lost relatives or even their lives. But you just go enjoy that 6-pack blowjob. Give the winner an extra buck, would you?

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4879455]Good God. Day 4 or 5 of an ongoing meth experience? In March Fauci called it a flu, take a cruise if you want, no masks needed, the CDC #2 said China virus was contained, NY Health comm said get out, go to the Chinatown festival, don't believe racist Orangeman.[/QUOTE]Understanding or comprehending any of that would require reading. You stopped doing that when you decided to just watch faux news and claim those ideas as your own. LOL.

[QUOTE=TechSticles;4880996]You really are a special kind of boring.

On my team of 7, we've lost about 5 extended and immediate relatives.[/QUOTE]I think you're lying but if you're not, go lick the toilets seats of the deceased.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4880858]What about Cuomo Ordering nursing homes and rehab centers to take in COVID patience resulting in thousands of needless deaths.

What about Murphy doing the same thing in NJ?

What about Wolf ordering the same thing in PA?

Those 3 states account for a huge number of COVID deaths![/QUOTE]

You are cherry picking three blue states early COVID fatality stats to fit a narrative. Why don't we take a look at the total number of COVID-19 fatalities at the end of this year to see which states fare better?

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4880858]What about Pelosi telling people to head on out to Chinatown after Trump talked about people staying home unless necessary?

What about DeBlase telling people to come on and visit the Big Apple about the same time as Pelosi at China Town?

What about the Leftist, Never Trumper, TrumpDerangedSyndrome excrement's who called Trump all sorts of names after he closed flights from China?[/QUOTE][B]Trump claim:[/B] House Speaker Nancy Pelosi urged people to attend "parties" and a parade in San Francisco's Chinatown to "show that this thing doesn't exist. ".

[B]The truth:[/B]Pelosi did visit San Francisco's Chinatown in late February to encourage residents not to fear the coronavirus in the city. "Precautions have been taken" and the city was "on top of the situation," she said. But Pelosi did not urge people to attend a parade or parties. San Francisco reported its first case of COVID-19 on March 5, a week later, and the Bay Area ordered residents to shelter in place three weeks after the speaker's visit.

[B]Trump claim:[/B] Pelosi was "dancing in the streets of Chinatown, trying to say, 'It's okay to come to the United States. It's fine. It's wonderful. Come on in. Bring your infection with you, Trump said in May.

[B]The truth: [/B]Trump is embellishing his original lie: Pelosi was not dancing in Chinatown or urging sick people to bring the coronavirus to the United States.

[B]On Travel Bans and Travelers[/B]

[B]Trump claim: [/B]The Trump administration's travel restrictions on China were a "ban" that closed up the "entire" United States and "kept China out. ".

[B]The truth [/B] Nearly 40,000 people traveled from China to the United States from February 2, when Trump's travel restrictions went into effect, to April 4, The New York Times reported. Those rules also do not apply to all people: American citizens, green-card holders and their relatives, and people on flights coming from Macau and Hong Kong are not included in the "ban. ".

[B]On the Nature of the Outbreak[/B]

[B]When: [/B] Friday, February 7, and Wednesday, February 19.

[B]Trump claim:[/B] The coronavirus would weaken "when we get into April, in the warmer weatherthat has a very negative effect on that, and that type of a virus. ".

[B]The truth:[/B] It's too early to tell if the virus's spread will be dampened by warmer conditions. Respiratory viruses can be seasonal, but the World Health Organization says that the new coronavirus "can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather. ".

[B]When: [/B]Thursday, February 27.

[B]Trump claim: [/B]The outbreak would be temporary: "It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracleit will disappear. ".

[B]The truth:[/B] Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned days later that he was concerned that "as the next week or two or three go by, we're going to see a lot more community-related cases. ".

[B]Trump claim: [/B]If the economic shutdown continues, deaths by suicide "definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we're talking about" for COVID-19 deaths.

[B]The truth: [/B]The White House now estimates that anywhere from 100,000 to 240,000 Americans could die from COVID-19. Other estimates have placed the number at 1. 1 million to 1. 2 million. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, suicide is one of the leading causes of death in the United States. But the number of people who died by suicide in 2017, for example, was roughly 47,000, nowhere near the COVID-19 estimates. Estimates of the mental-health toll of the Great Recession are mixed. A 2014 study tied more than 10,000 suicides in Europe and North America to the financial crisis. But a larger analysis in 2017 found that while the rate of suicide was increasing in the United States, the increase could not be directly tied to the recession and was attributable to broader socioeconomic conditions predating the downturn.

[B]Trump claim:[/B] "Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere," and cases are "coming way down. ".

[B]The truth: [/B] Coronavirus cases are either increasing or plateauing in the majority of American states. Increases in state-level testing do account for some of the increase in cases and, on average, the country's positive-test rate is lower than it was in March and April. But those numbers obscure the situation in more than a dozen states where, as of this writing on May 27, cases are still increasing.

[B]When: [/B]Wednesday, June 17.

[B]Trump claim: [/B]The pandemic is "fading away. It's going to fade away. ".

[B]The truth: [/B]Trump made this claim ahead of his rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, when the country was still seeing at least 20,000 new daily cases and a second spike in infections was beginning.

[B]When: [/B]Thursday, July 2.

[B]Trump claim:[/B] The pandemic is "getting under control. ".

[B]The truth: [/B]Trump's claim came as the country's daily cases doubled to about 50,000, a higher daily case count than seen at the beginning of the pandemic, and the number continues to rise, fueled by infections in the South and the West.

[B]When:[/B] Saturday, July 4.

[B]Trump claim:[/B] "99%" of COVID-19 cases are "totally harmless. ".

[B]The truth:[/B] The virus can still cause tremendous suffering if it doesn't kill a patient, and the WHO has said that about 15 percent of COVID-19 cases can be severe, with 5 percent being critical. Fauci has rejected Trump's claim, saying the evidence shows that the virus "can make you seriously ill" even if it doesn't kill you.

[B]When[/B]: Monday, July 6.

[B]Trump claim:[/B] "We now have the lowest Fatality (Mortality) Rate in the World. ".

[B]The truth:[/B] The USA Has neither the lowest mortality rate nor the lowest case-fatality rate. As of July 13, the case-fatality ratethe ratio of deaths per confirmed COVID-19 caseswas 4. 1 percent, which places the USA Solidly in the middle of global rankings. It has the world's ninth-worst mortality rate, with 41.33 deaths per 100,000 people, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4880858]What about Cuomo Ordering nursing homes and rehab centers to take in COVID patience resulting in thousands of needless deaths.

What about Murphy doing the same thing in NJ?

What about Wolf ordering the same thing in PA?

Those 3 states account for a huge number of COVID deaths!

What about Pelosi telling people to head on out to Chinatown after Trump talked about people staying home unless necessary?

What about DeBlase telling people to come on and visit the Big Apple about the same time as Pelosi at China Town?

What about the Leftist, Never Trumper, TrumpDerangedSyndrome excrement's who called Trump all sorts of names after he closed flights from China?[/QUOTE]You are right, but it doesn't fit the leftist fascist narrative, so democrats will disagree.

[QUOTE=WillB.Hard;4880559]The President saved millions of lives in phase one and now in phase two he is showing the same leadership holding the country together.[/QUOTE]What leadership? Trump is melting down so badly because he can't find even one rigged poll that shows him leading over Mighty Joe. His FAILED one term clown show is dragging him deeper into the toilet.

President Biden is going to unleash so much pain on the MAGA-Tard Swamp Rats. Going to be fun to hear them SQUEAL as they swirl down the bowl. Going to be like Jonestown all over again.

It's like Jonestown Massacre version 2. 0 for the MAGA-Deplorables!

Mighty Joe Biden is now 15 POINTS ahead in national polling:

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/politics/quinnipiac-poll-biden-leading-trump-economy/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4880857]"Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" ~ Ronald Reagan.

The answer for a majority of Americans today is a resounding "HELL NO!

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MV7MZPLRtE[/URL][/QUOTE]Talk about cherry picking and ignoring the facts. Booming economy, record low unemployment, record stock market numbers. Trump was instrumental in all of those things. But, like a few others on this thread, you hate him so much that you ignore the facts and blame him for destroying what he was instrumental in creating in the first place. And do you really think Biden would have done or would do better? As McEnroe used to say, " You cannot be serious! " I get it why you don't like Trump but believing that Biden and that group of Democratic asylum escapees would have done a better job is the very definition of insanity. Hatred will do that. Blind hatred is suicidal.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4880487]CNN and MSNBC have won journalism awards for over 40 years now.

Fox Fake News is officially classified as "entertainment" and not news. Which means President Biden can shut it down and ain't a damn thing the MAGA-Tards can do about it except cry.

America will be great again when a strong and powerful Democrat takes power on January 20 and drains the Trump Swamp of all the filth and stench.[/QUOTE]Keep that reverse psychology thing going there, man. It's really, well, you know, it's the thing, man! Go Mighty Joe Go!

CNN and MSNBC have won journalism awards for over 40 years now? Really? Guys like Cronkite, Huntley, and Chancellor would be laughing their asses off right now. C'Mon., man!

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;4881254]You are right, but it doesn't fit the leftist fascist narrative, so democrats will disagree.[/QUOTE]Of course they will. Joe couldn't even answer a simple question on the view about the rape allegation against him.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;4881685]Of course they will. Joe couldn't even answer a simple question on the view about the rape allegation against him.[/QUOTE]Curiously has Trump answered any of the various rape allegations against him? I don't know why you want to spend energy on this. We can discuss Biden's single alleged rape allegation versus Trump's numerous alleged rape allegations, including his grabbing of pussy's. Not saying he's right but Biden's rape allegation is still a LIGHTWEIGHT version of what Trump has BOLDLY done against women for years.

The point is, Biden is not great but Trump is a NIGHTMARE in comparison.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4881432]Talk about cherry picking and ignoring the facts. Booming economy, record low unemployment, record stock market numbers. Trump was instrumental in all of those things. But, like a few others on this thread, you hate him so much that you ignore the facts and blame him for destroying what he was instrumental in creating in the first place. And do you really think Biden would have done or would do better? As McEnroe used to say, " You cannot be serious! " I get it why you don't like Trump but believing that Biden and that group of Democratic asylum escapees would have done a better job is the very definition of insanity. Hatred will do that. Blind hatred is suicidal.[/QUOTE]No hatred here, just regrets that I voted for this dolt 3+ yrs ago!

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4881805]No hatred here, just regrets that I voted for this dolt 3+ yrs ago![/QUOTE]I understand. Fair enough.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4881428]It's like Jonestown Massacre version 2. 0 for the MAGA-Deplorables!

Mighty Joe Biden is now 15 POINTS ahead in national polling:

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/politics/quinnipiac-poll-biden-leading-trump-economy/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Really, come on man Stevie Wonder Can see the Bias.

I guess we'll see after Nov. 3.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4881805]No hatred here, just regrets that I voted for this dolt 3+ yrs ago![/QUOTE]I've had friends that I Used to think were rational, level headed, Americans, Completely loose all sense objectivity and Critical thinking.

If I heard something I thought was maybe a little off, hey Go do the research and form your own opinion as to what's going on. I'm afraid there are going to be a Lot of people disappointed again because they believe EVERYTHING they are Spoon fed on TV.

[QUOTE=Mike454;4882078]Really, come on man Stevie Wonder Can see the Bias.

I guess we'll see after Nov. 3.[/QUOTE]I agree after Hillary was ahead in the polls in 2016. I don't believe these polls that only take a 1500 or 2000 people interview. Biden will loose harder than Hillary.

Keep America great 2020.

[QUOTE=Mike454;4882092]I've had friends that I Used to think were rational, level headed, Americans, Completely loose all sense objectivity and Critical thinking.

If I heard something I thought was maybe a little off, hey Go do the research and form your own opinion as to what's going on. I'm afraid there are going to be a Lot of people disappointed again because they believe EVERYTHING they are Spoon fed on TV.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. TDS is real, but in the opposite way. Anyone that can watch him and not think he is an unstable, idiot narcissist is completely deranged.

Oh. , It's lose, not loose. You're welcome.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4881432]Talk about cherry picking and ignoring the facts. Booming economy, record low unemployment, record stock market numbers. Trump was instrumental in all of those things. But, like a few others on this thread, you hate him so much that you ignore the facts and blame him for destroying what he was instrumental in creating in the first place. And do you really think Biden would have done or would do better? As McEnroe used to say, " You cannot be serious! " I get it why you don't like Trump but believing that Biden and that group of Democratic asylum escapees would have done a better job is the very definition of insanity. Hatred will do that. Blind hatred is suicidal.[/QUOTE]Booming economy. Sure! And there is a very simple reason; spending money like a drunken sailor in order to tweak the numbers. Called deficit spending. Simple. Combine that with a tax break, revenues run low, spending remains high, makes a lot of sense. Not.

A rational admn would be trying to pay down the deficit in good economic times. But that wasn't good enough for the current regime. And now, that we are mired in some deep shit, we are rapidly running out of silver bullets.

One other thing, "Mother", Pence, and the evangelicals would take great delight in shutting down many activities that this board is based upon. So go ahead, if you want the bible thumpers so far up your ass that you can't breathe, have at it! Getting to be the only thing that the "base" is composed of these days. But I get the feeling you're cool with that.

[QUOTE=TheBobster;4882273]Booming economy. Sure! And there is a very simple reason; spending money like a drunken sailor in order to tweak the numbers. Called deficit spending. Simple. Combine that with a tax break, revenues run low, spending remains high, makes a lot of sense. Not.

A rational admn would be trying to pay down the deficit in good economic times. But that wasn't good enough for the current regime. And now, that we are mired in some deep shit, we are rapidly running out of silver bullets.

One other thing, "Mother", Pence, and the evangelicals would take great delight in shutting down many activities that this board is based upon. So go ahead, if you want the bible thumpers so far up your ass that you can't breathe, have at it! Getting to be the only thing that the "base" is composed of these days. But I get the feeling you're cool with that.[/QUOTE]You can take your "feeling" and shove it up your own ass. There is no reasoning with deranged haters like you so there is no point for me to waste my energy trying. There is only one highway in your mind and that highway belongs to you. Hate on, Bob. The "base" that you despise so much is going to overwhelm you in November. Maybe you and Maddow can have a cry party on Election night as you show her your insanely long posts and wonder why no one paid any attention to you. You offer only Biden and a bunch of Pelosi mob subversives as an alternative? I don't think so. Trump ain't great but I'll take him over a bunch of anarchists any time. I have a feeling that you are ok with them. We are not going to allow them to run this country. Ever.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4882305]You can take your "feeling" and shove it up your own ass. There is no reasoning with deranged haters like you so there is no point for me to waste my energy trying. There is only one highway in your mind and that highway belongs to you. Hate on, Bob. The "base" that you despise so much is going to overwhelm you in November. Maybe you and Maddow can have a cry party on Election night as you show her your insanely long posts and wonder why no one paid any attention to you. You offer only Biden and a bunch of Pelosi mob subversives as an alternative? I don't think so. Trump ain't great but I'll take him over a bunch of anarchists any time. I have a feeling that you are ok with them. We are not going to allow them to run this country. Ever.[/QUOTE]In my humble opinion, assigning pejorative labels to persons on this board forum based on their political or economic beliefs is pointless. When someone's arguments take the form of personal attacks and name-calling it's a pretty clear admission that they don't have anything valid or worthwhile to say. Just saying!

Preach on, brother. This x100000.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4882646]In my humble opinion, assigning pejorative labels to people based on their political or economic beliefs is pointless. When someone's arguments take the form of personal attacks and name-calling it's a pretty clear admission that they don't have anything valid or worthwhile to say. Just saying......[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4882646]In my humble opinion, assigning pejorative labels to persons on this board forum based on their political or economic beliefs is pointless. When someone's arguments take the form of personal attacks and name-calling it's a pretty clear admission that they don't have anything valid or worthwhile to say. Just saying![/QUOTE]Yeah, but that's kind of how Rants and Raves works. Tunnel vision opinions are to blow off steam. They don't "resolve" issues.

I prefer to print out pics of Biden and Pelosi doing a "69" with superimposed targets on them and attach them to a hay bale suspended from a tree. Then my kids, their significant others and I have at it from 75 meters. Weapons of choice utilized and tightest shot group wins (no scopes or shotguns allowed).

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4882305]You can take your "feeling" and shove it up your own ass. There is no reasoning with deranged haters like you so there is no point for me to waste my energy trying. There is only one highway in your mind and that highway belongs to you. Hate on, Bob. The "base" that you despise so much is going to overwhelm you in November. Maybe you and Maddow can have a cry party on Election night as you show her your insanely long posts and wonder why no one paid any attention to you. You offer only Biden and a bunch of Pelosi mob subversives as an alternative? I don't think so. Trump ain't great but I'll take him over a bunch of anarchists any time. I have a feeling that you are ok with them. We are not going to allow them to run this country. Ever.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true American. I think you could kick Biden's ass in an election and I'd gladly vote for you. Sadly, our two presidential candidates are aging rapidly. Most liked Reagan, but aging Dutch would doze off in cabinet meetings.

Wish some young-er guns in their 40's or early 50's had enough integrity, honor, energy and clout to run. An overall bi-partisan (hate that word) solution is probably best for this country, but it won't be a gleeful 50/50 mix.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;4882876]

I prefer to print out pics of Biden and Pelosi doing a "69" [/QUOTE]Night, that's just evil. I DID NOT need that visual, and now it's stuck in my head!!

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;4882646]In my humble opinion, assigning pejorative labels to persons on this board forum based on their political or economic beliefs is pointless. When someone's arguments take the form of personal attacks and name-calling it's a pretty clear admission that they don't have anything valid or worthwhile to say. Just saying![/QUOTE]Oh, so what Bob said to me before I replied back to him was not a personal attack? Cherry picking again, Sarge.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;4881441]Keep that reverse psychology thing going there, man. It's really, well, you know, it's the thing, man! Go Mighty Joe Go![/QUOTE]LOL Commie Donnie is the king of reverse pscyhology and projection. Calls Biden "sleepy" but Dumbo Donnie's own sister and niece called him a "dumb ass" and "clown" who paid an actual smart kid to take his SAT for him because he was too stupid to do simple arithmetic or write a simple essay.

But we both know "Crooked Donnie" is headed for an orange jumpsuit and 6 x 9 cell in January and Hillary will be standing beside Mighty President Biden and they'll both be LAUGHING at the fat clown as the ankle shackles are slapped on tight!!