I was wondering if any of these providers who offer BBFS would admit to being on PREP? I think it would be more safe for us clients if we knew. I heard that Gina Rollins uses PREP.
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I was wondering if any of these providers who offer BBFS would admit to being on PREP? I think it would be more safe for us clients if we knew. I heard that Gina Rollins uses PREP.
[QUOTE=NotFromHere;4140564]Out of a city of 8 million. You might have a greater chance of being arrested.[/QUOTE]If the numbers as right it is actually more than 1%. Pretty high odds!
They are way higher if you consider that you are dealing with a high risk group.
Just saying.
[QUOTE=DRMongerII;4140731]I was wondering if any of these providers who offer BBFS would admit to being on PREP? I think it would be more safe for us clients if we knew. I heard that Gina Rollins uses PREP.[/QUOTE]My understanding of the way PREP works is that it's effective in preventing transmission whether or not you're HIV+. So not only is meant to be taken by those who are positive, but also to be taken as a preventative measure for those who aren't, and that it would be most effective in a situation where both partners are taking it correctly (not missing doses, etc.).
So it's possible that if a provider is taking PREP, she's merely doing so as a safety precaution.
[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4141115]My understanding of the way PREP works is that it's effective in preventing transmission whether or not you're HIV+. So not only is meant to be taken by those who are positive, but also to be taken as a preventative measure for those who aren't, and that it would be most effective in a situation where both partners are taking it correctly (not missing doses, etc.).
So it's possible that if a provider is taking PREP, she's merely doing so as a safety precaution.[/QUOTE]PREP is only for individuals without HIV, as the regular treatment for HIV is already nearly fully effective at preventing the spread of HIV (at least via sex).
[QUOTE=VanillaStick;4139079]A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?[/QUOTE]Lisa does allow CIP.
109000/8623000=1. 2640612315% people have HIV in NYC.
[QUOTE=VanillaStick;4139513]Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been going often to the Russian spots in Brooklyn and latin / mix in queens. Meet well enough some of them, who told me how those „houses" and they works. Girls work 6 - 7 days a week (in one location or 2, 3 around the city), they have 8 – 25 clients a day! Depends how busy it is. Which give you about 50 – 100 guys a week. In one month about 300 clients. Girls usually stay in one house up to 6 months which is 1800 clients LOL. Seams a lot, but ones on this forum who had experienced those kinds of houses know that that's the way those spots work.
I talk about those cheap houses where for 120 – 300 you got bare service.
Now do your math how many chances you have to get HIV and STD.
Of course, lady of the house, pimp, the more experienced girl would lie to you. But new girls sometimes tell the truth. I do not talk about Asian places, because girls there don't understand and talk much in English, so I don't know what they even think of.
Dekkyo, what is the truth? How many of these girls that do BBFS have hiv or some other std? No one can know the exact percentages. Does it happen often that a girl with HIV or some other std will provide BBFS knowing that she has the disease?
[QUOTE=DRMongerII;4145074]Dekkyo, what is the truth? How many of these girls that do BBFS have hiv or some other std? No one can know the exact percentages. Does it happen often that a girl with HIV or some other std will provide BBFS knowing that she has the disease?[/QUOTE]If guy have STD, then he transmits it to the girl and then she transmits is to all her customers. Right?
I think that providers who have STD and HIV or some other diseases are more willing to do BBBJ, BBFS, DATY and so on. A lot of "clean" girls are afraid to catch some STD, so they always use a condom and do not allow DATY. But that one who are already sick. What else they can lose? So they will offer bare to get more clients and more money!
Some providers & hobbyist do not know they are sick, cause they never got tested.
[QUOTE=BlackHawk101;4134369]Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.
I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.[/QUOTE]There shouldn't be too much convo about this on this particular thread, there is another one called safe sex where this belongs. I don't have an opinion about the personal choices you make in this regard, but just some more data. HSV-2 is a viral disease just like HIV, and it is incurable once infected. Condoms are quite effective in reducing the HIV transmission rate, it seems like something similar should apply to HSV-2. Of course, the transmission mechanism and infected cells are different in each case. There is a way to be infected w / HSV-2 (usually called genital herpes) orally, and vice versa. If you get a STD panel, often HSV-1 is included. About 70% of the US population is seropositive for HSV-1. This is cold sores. Many people, including my best friend, are seropositive and have never even had a single cold sore. The infection rate for HSV-2 is in the 15-20% range. However, it varies by age and demographics. You can include that information in assessing your risk. I won't go into details, you can easily get the data from the CDC website (Centers for Disease Control).
[QUOTE=BlackHawk101;4134369]Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.
I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.[/QUOTE]I tried to respond with a lot of content about this, but it is really a topic for the safe sex thread. The admin moved it over there, if you'd like to take a look.
[QUOTE=Murphy69;4133311]I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.[/QUOTE]Tested non-reactive at the 7 week mark. Symptoms disappeared a few days afterward. My general physician couldn't find the causes of my symptoms either. The brain is truly odd.
So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.
[QUOTE=FredBickle;4186554]So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.[/QUOTE]Well there is a drug that suppresses but does not eliminate the outbreak of HSV-2 (e. G. Makes less common).
[QUOTE=FredBickle;4186554]So some guy goes on an online date with a 30 year old super successful lawyer chick. They bang. He gets genital herpes from it. She says she's sorry, it must have been one of the 2 guys she fucked during the entire year.
Meanwhile, another guy bangs dozens of Korean gals BBFS and is clean as a whistle.
And the Korean gals, from what it seems, are also disease free.
Can someone help me figure out this numbers game? It makes no sense.
Are the K gals on meds that prevent transmission of HSV-2? Because apparently 1 in 6 people have it and I know I'm a walking miracle if those are actually the numbers.[/QUOTE]Herpes is common. I'm sure most of mongers got it, but didn't know since most people just tested for common and deadly diseases.
I rarely test for hsv (full panel, hsv is not included).
Kgirls are the same as other girls, they are not disease-free. I did get it couple times in my last 6 years (just common stds).
I have gotten once with BBBJ, but that's a rare case with a girl in San Jose.
I'm playing with fires and I'm willing to accept any consequences and that's my mindset. This hobby is not for everybody.