Stellar review SirCumference! Glad Philly was able to make your visit a positive one. Blue Moon just added to my list of 'must do'.
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Stellar review SirCumference! Glad Philly was able to make your visit a positive one. Blue Moon just added to my list of 'must do'.
[QUOTE=Cephlapod Love; 1266916]Wow! SirCumference. Great review. Thanks for sharing that. Glad you had a great time at BM!
While Mr Murphy kept you from FC it sounds like he was conspicuously absent from your experience at BM!
Hey, I didn't know the Callowhill Special existed outside of CH / FC! You found a good one.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry if I missed something here. Where did he mention the CH special?
Had opportunity to visit recently, spending time with Sera, who is petite and natural, albeit a bit small for my usual fare. TS was pleasing, thorough, her soft little hands caressing and massaging my body as she hummed. Dried me off and back to the room. After asking me to get comfortable she left and returned to start a little massagi, but that didn't last long since I was intrigued to try other stretching exercises with her, which made us both hungry. After we enjoyed some mutual snacking, and after the raincoat came on she wanted to have a bigger dish. Now I am over 6' and not a skinny guy, but this little one worked me out. Three dishes later, I was happy, and after going to get a hot towel she offered to resume massagi. Little as she is, she was able to give me a nice firm massage, back walking, etc. Finally, there was the knock on the door and our time was up. She helped me dress, offered to get me some water on the way out and walked me to the door to say goodbye to the MS and be on my way.
As usual, FCA is full of gems.
[QUOTE=Basketball;1267745]I'm sorry if I missed something here. Where did he mention the CH special?[/QUOTE][i]I worked my way lower for a good round of DATY, most of it with her feet on my shoulders giving me full access. She was pleasantly responsive. My only complaint was that she had a little soapy taste, but I can't complain too much as hygiene is in my interest, after all. I lay down and the cover went on, lots of ball kissing [b]and a little tongue work on my bottom. [/b] Good blowjob pressure, which I cut off fairly quickly in the interest of things yet to come. [/i]
Now maybe he meant she was kissing his globes, but I took that to mean a bit of the salad got tossed.
I really enjoy Philly AMPs but also find them frustrating because of staff turnover. Most AMPs seem to have 2-3 girls these days rather than 5-6 girls as they did in years past when there were fewer AMPs in CC. Thus when you ask to see all the girls there is less of a choice or more often the response is that most the girls are busy but don't worry "I have beautiful young girl fo you" So it turns out to be a roll of the dice and usually this turns out to be a disappointment. If by chance I get lucky and end up with someone who is really young, pretty, gives a good massage and plenty of extras to put a smile on my face, I believe that I have finally found my ATF but when I call at a later time to schedule an appointment with this girl I am told that she is no longer works here. An example recently is Mink at 1820. When I ask where she went usually no real information is provided. In the case of Mink the mamasan said that she went to NYC to make more money. Part of my problem may be that the girls that I like are the younger ones. Seems that AMPs usually have an older, more experienced girl who is contracted for long term and the turnover involves the younger girls who are more transient. So if they go to NYC through this system where are they in NYC. I haven't been able to find AMP services through checking USASG in NYC threads that indicate services involving younger girls. One AMP girl in Philly told me that she worked at a nail salon in NYC when she went there. Another girl in Philly gave me her # and I found she ended up at an AMP in Elizabeth NJ, but when I went up to see her, she didn't make any more $. Prices were the same. So does anyone know how the system works and where do all the young AMP girls go?
Do a google search for [B]dollar bill's psycho round up[/B]
His blog is both funny and informative.
[QUOTE=Yophile2;1270806]I really enjoy Philly AMPs but also find them frustrating because of staff turnover. Most AMPs seem to have 2-3 girls these days rather than 5-6 girls as they did in years past when there were fewer AMPs in CC. Thus when you ask to see all the girls there is less of a choice or more often the response is that most the girls are busy but don't worry "I have beautiful young girl fo you" So it turns out to be a roll of the dice and usually this turns out to be a disappointment. If by chance I get lucky and end up with someone who is really young, pretty, gives a good massage and plenty of extras to put a smile on my face, I believe that I have finally found my ATF but when I call at a later time to schedule an appointment with this girl I am told that she is no longer works here. An example recently is Mink at 1820. When I ask where she went usually no real information is provided. In the case of Mink the mamasan said that she went to NYC to make more money. Part of my problem may be that the girls that I like are the younger ones. Seems that AMPs usually have an older, more experienced girl who is contracted for long term and the turnover involves the younger girls who are more transient. So if they go to NYC through this system where are they in NYC. I haven't been able to find AMP services through checking USASG in NYC threads that indicate services involving younger girls. One AMP girl in Philly told me that she worked at a nail salon in NYC when she went there. Another girl in Philly gave me her # and I found she ended up at an AMP in Elizabeth NJ, but when I went up to see her, she didn't make any more $. Prices were the same. So does anyone know how the system works and where do all the young AMP girls go?[/QUOTE]Alas, I think that us as the "outsider" consumer are barred from being privvy to the inner workings of the underside of this biz.
I had the same experience; thought I'd found the jackpot, an honest to goodness beauty, was skilled at playing with and about my pooper (she got me over thinking it was "ghey", my punk homophobic self resisted at first but now. Shyt, I insist) , worked at it with diligence and focus, never showing any sign whatsoever of tiring out. Then one day she disappeared. POOF. Into the ether. Asked mama where she was,"oh, lots of these girls move around, she gone!". Didn't feel right to push for specifics as the general vibe was that there were not that were going to be given to me, and figured if I pushed I might come across like I was in love or something. (maybe I was a little. LOL).
How and why these girls come and go when conceivably they can build up a steady and reliable clientele is a mystery (hmm. Maybe thats a base reason perhaps? Keep the focus the business owner and not the girl?). And the recruitment machine in the background that supplies them the trade I dunno, can't say that I'm not curious.
Any insiders here? Care to enlighten?
[QUOTE=Yophile2;1270806]I find them frustrating because of staff turnover.[/QUOTE]I, otoh, would consider variety a strong positive, a must even. That's why they're moving around, I believe. Kinda like with a movie theatre. What good would it be if it were showing the same movie, no matter how good in itself, in perpetuity? Absurd.
[QUOTE=Iorek; 1270957]Alas, I think that us as the "outsider" consumer are barred from being privvy to the inner workings of the underside of this biz.
I had the same experience; thought I'd found the jackpot, an honest to goodness beauty, was skilled at playing with and about my pooper (she got me over thinking it was "ghey", my punk homophobic self resisted at first but now. Shyt, I insist) , worked at it with diligence and focus, never showing any sign whatsoever of tiring out. Then one day she disappeared. POOF. Into the ether. Asked mama where she was,"oh, lots of these girls move around, she gone!". Didn't feel right to push for specifics as the general vibe was that there were not that were going to be given to me, and figured if I pushed I might come across like I was in love or something. (maybe I was a little. LOL).
How and why these girls come and go when conceivably they can build up a steady and reliable clientele is a mystery (hmm. Maybe thats a base reason perhaps? Keep the focus the business owner and not the girl?). And the recruitment machine in the background that supplies them the trade I dunno, can't say that I'm not curious.
Any insiders here? Care to enlighten?[/QUOTE]It is no secret, right now the gals make more money working in NYC. The base rate is $200 for a session. In Philly it is $160. If you're young and hot you're going to make more in NYC. Not to say if your only seeing 2 customer a day in NYC and 5 in Philly you'll make more in Philly but from what I understand that is also not true. The NYC spas are busier then Philly right now.
You're correct about building up a steady reliable clientele but why do it in Philly when you can do the same thing in NYC and make more besides the bulk of them all live in the Flushing area anyways.
PLEASE HELP! Can anyone recommend an AMP in the suburbs that has extensive menu options?
Have been to a few, only to be disappointed!
Send a PM is fine!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Iorek; 1270957]Alas, I think that us as the "outsider" consumer are barred from being privvy to the inner workings of the underside of this biz.
I had the same experience; thought I'd found the jackpot, an honest to goodness beauty, was skilled at playing with and about my pooper (she got me over thinking it was "ghey", my punk homophobic self resisted at first but now. Shyt, I insist) , worked at it with diligence and focus, never showing any sign whatsoever of tiring out. Then one day she disappeared. POOF. Into the ether. Asked mama where she was,"oh, lots of these girls move around, she gone!". Didn't feel right to push for specifics as the general vibe was that there were not that were going to be given to me, and figured if I pushed I might come across like I was in love or something. (maybe I was a little. LOL).
How and why these girls come and go when conceivably they can build up a steady and reliable clientele is a mystery (hmm. Maybe thats a base reason perhaps? Keep the focus the business owner and not the girl?). And the recruitment machine in the background that supplies them the trade I dunno, can't say that I'm not curious.
Any insiders here? Care to enlighten?[/QUOTE]I'm not an insider, but I always believed that the owners of these AMPs owned places in several cities and like to rotate the girls around to keep up the variety that was available. Or maybe sometimes the girls have a problem with the mamasan and just need a change of scenery. To us, sometimes we develop a relationship with a particular girl for whatever reason. To the spa owners, these girls are just a commodity to be used to make as much money as possible, and if that involves rotating them then thats what they are going to do.
Love can happen just about anywhere. I saw a Korean girl at Adams Apple couple years ago who ended up marrying a client. I always wondered how the relationship turned out. Another Korean girl at an AMP in old city left because she was getting married not sure if it was a customer. Also in years past the owner of 1820 who used to provide massage services to me ended getting married. I think that she may still maintain a few regulars not sure though. More than once a mamasan has told me that a girl fell in love with a regular customer and ended up devastated when the customer stopped coming to see her. Once I became quite strongly attracted to an ATF and was very disappointed and emotionally upset when she moved back to Korea. Obviously it is not a good idea to develop feelings for these girls, but it is sometimes hard to control your emotions under such intimate situations.
In regard to turnover of girls I think that the organization at AMPs promotes this dynamic because it seems that there is a girl who has seniority and she must have a contract or arrangement with the ownership such that the other girls are temporary. This would guarantee the senior girl a certain amount of security and revenue in exchange for longevity that protects the AMP. I went to the AMP on Samson and knew the older girl who I didn't care for so I asked for the new girl. Well it turned into a big fight between the girls and I was shuffled between the rooms. I ended up with the new girl because I threatened to walk, but the older Korean kept trying to pull rank. There seem to be exceptions to this speculation such as FC that retains several girls for longer periods of time. This may contribute to the success of that AMP because you know what to expect and there is an opportunity for sampling of different girls.
[QUOTE=Yophile2; 1271656]Love can happen just about anywhere. I saw a Korean girl at Adams Apple couple years ago who ended up marrying a client. I always wondered how the relationship turned out. Another Korean girl at an AMP in old city left because she was getting married not sure if it was a customer. Also in years past the owner of 1820 who used to provide massage services to me ended getting married. I think that she may still maintain a few regulars not sure though. More than once a mamasan has told me that a girl fell in love with a regular customer and ended up devastated when the customer stopped coming to see her. Once I became quite strongly attracted to an ATF and was very disappointed and emotionally upset when she moved back to Korea. Obviously it is not a good idea to develop feelings for these girls, but it is sometimes hard to control your emotions under such intimate situations.
In regard to turnover of girls I think that the organization at AMPs promotes this dynamic because it seems that there is a girl who has seniority and she must have a contract or arrangement with the ownership such that the other girls are temporary. This would guarantee the senior girl a certain amount of security and revenue in exchange for longevity that protects the AMP. I went to the AMP on Samson and knew the older girl who I didn't care for so I asked for the new girl. Well it turned into a big fight between the girls and I was shuffled between the rooms. I ended up with the new girl because I threatened to walk, but the older Korean kept trying to pull rank. There seem to be exceptions to this speculation such as FC that retains several girls for longer periods of time. This may contribute to the success of that AMP because you know what to expect and there is an opportunity for sampling of different girls.[/QUOTE]All woman are wired the same way. Let get real as to what options does a K-gal actually have? Work in a motel cleaning for $6 / hr? Work in a kitchen in some K-town restaurant? If she doesn't have her working papers, what is really on the table? Their minimum wage is like seeing a 2 or 3 guys a day but still that is about $200-$300 cash (no taxes) per day. If she is hot and in high demand she will make much more. They don't do this because they really like it; they really like the money. Most have the same dreams that all woman have. They would like to have a good stable life with a good man. We all have emotions and real feelings can develop. The real question is can both sides drop the past and move on. Also some of the women can develop very bad spending habits, blowing a few grands at the blackjack table and buying high end pocketbooks, jeans and watches is just a normal way of life for an AMP gal. It isn't difficult to get caught up in the lifestyle.
I have always held to the belief that working gals and some strippers understand the needs of men better then any other women on the planet. I am talking about working gals and strippers that are sane, not in their young 20's and are no longer caught up in the newness of the game. I also think they have very good radar for detecting BS since they hear it all day. Some guys that people would consider a great catch see them as potential mates and other guys see them as forever damaged, the ironic thing is they are both right. Because if you can't get over what happened in the past then don't let your current emotions fool you. It reminds me of an old Andrew Dice Clay line, he finds a guy in the audience with a hot wife / gf, he says to the guy "Wow, you wife is hot. Is she good in the sack?" The guy says "Yes". Dice says again "No, I mean was she really really good in the sack when you first meet her?" The guy says again "Oh yea, she is amazing". Dice says "How do you think she got to be so good?".
Hi all. Visiting the mecca of AMP this weekend.
First. Tried calling FCA to set up appointment. Only got answering machine, may not be open, but I drove by and did not go up to ring the bell.
Went to King's Spa last night on 3rd (42B) , but the place smelled musty. Like the walls were sweating! I thought about staying for a "treatment", but the service provider offered was mid 30's with alot of mileage, so I left.
Called Blue Moon today and hooked up with Happy. She is a sweet girl. Gave me the best massage I ever recieved at an AMP (40 mins). Here's the breakdown.
Total Time 1 hour 15 min.
Service 10.
Body 6 (I'm picky, shaved, clean. 5'4/120 late20's has midline surgical abdominal scar, but she's slim with natural 34Cs)
Extras all available and utilized.
Damage 1. 6.
Bottom Line: Nice girl, provides excellent masssage with extras (rim / CBJ / doggy) , YMMV.
Bye All.
BDB
Sorry if I sound ignorant with this post. I frequented the Callowhill and another AMP on Sansom about ten years ago. Last time I was at Callowhill, they were in new location a few blocks from original. They closed about a year later.
I've been reading posts in this thread and will appreciate some clarification:
1. Is FC short for Fun City?
2. Is Fun City located at one of the old Callowhill locations? If so, which one?
3. Is the AMP at the cornier of 16th and Sansom (above the Rooster Bar) still open? Do you know the current name?
I'll appreciate replies. Also, specific reccomendations on talent at any of these places will be appreciate