'Within the Rules' - A Suggestion.
I've been an updated regular of the Belv/Rockford scene the last three years (moved back to the area after living in Phx, NorCal last 20 years) - so I have a few scenes to reference as comparison. A few observations I'd like to share
Here's what I've come to realize: In other areas of the country women are more forthcoming about the menu. Less give/take - 'here it is.' (I'm keeping things general on purpose - feel free to PM me if you'd like clarification/specifics)
Coming back to CLV/ERS after being away, you need to be abit more assertive, without being harsh/forceful. Here's what's worked for me:
(On the flip where you massage her on table - waiting until she's flipped on her back, I'll say "Hey I brought alittle more tip money with me today. I'd like to give you $100 to take those sexy bottoms off, have alittle more fun.") - Tactful, its an offer she can accept or decline, and keeps things going. Problem with other guys experiences - 'she only did this/that, so I only tipped .2 or .4' - is youre not seeing it from her perspective. Why should she give up extras if its not clear what she'll get for it? You offer something, tip when its over, and the girls will offer a few things not on 'the menu.' These women are almost innocent in that regard, waiting for you to take the initiative. Perhaps its the way its trained. I also think vibe is huge. Take the time to engage in small talk, even make a point of waiting for a follow up visit to escalate. (PUA talk I know. But that's how I treat it)
Lastly, again as a point of comparison, I should point out the reality that other places around the US the tips are certainly much higher - a dime or two. Tipping rates I'm seeing in this mkt are essentially what they were 20 years ago (put another way - 1-2 table dances?) - its an adult game, and yeah we are all tight from time to time, but c'mon. If you're really enjoying something special, know how much women appreciate alittle better tip and how much thatll impact your session
Again, PM me for specifics, I won't detail here. Just wanted to post a tip on a different script that's worked well for me
GG
Perhaps some clarification
While I kept my comments general, I thought I provided enough context to be helpful. Perhaps not.
1. I started my post with my personal point of reference, having lived 15 years in Phoenix and Northern California before moving back to this area (grew up here). I've also traveled extensively, and continue to (KS, IA, IN, OH, PA, AZ, TX, CA, NV, MN this year alone. Found a great place in the boonies of NV this Spring, offered great FS session for $160 out the door). Sure, you'll find places vary in service and price.
However,
2. Tips and rates haven't changed much at all at CLV/ERS since I first went to these places 20 years ago. I also understand traffic has dropped off, sometimes someone can work there the whole day without an appointment. I like the service at these places very much, and would like to do my part to ensure they stick around.
3. The larger point I was trying to make. I've read many reports about what you can expect. If you want that, or choose not to tip more than $20-. 4, that's your perogative. Standard tipping for a fbm, in many (sure, not all) areas I've been to is really more in the $100-$200 range.
4. Lastly. I kept my note general because this is a public post, but the comments I used offered her to take the bottoms off 'and have a little more fun. ' I apologize if that's vague, but I won't elaborate here. You're right. No more funds needed for a nude massage (I'm suggesting a different approach: assure them I intend to tip, and the amount. I'm certain they often don't get much more than their session split. That will improve the session)
I offer this as a point of comparison and insight, and firsthand experience for others who may not have that experience to reference. Of course one's personal cashflow or perspective may vary one's ultimate actionplan.
[QUOTE=Rubenme2]Depends on where you've been. The US is big and as a person who has been to 70% of the country I can tell you that not every place is more. Some are comparable or even less. It just depends on the market. And beleve me that no matter what the Bunny Ranch on HBO tries to tell you there are places in Nevada that are priced similar to Rockford. Same with LA. I generally check with guys on other boards before I travel to see what the rates and attitudes are in a given area.
No extra funds are needed for the bikini to fall at ERS but do show your appreciation as always.
But yeah small talk can go a long way[/QUOTE]
