Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=FruitNinja;3874251]A little more on this:

I have literally done 200 plus girls starting with CL ads seeking Sb's to present day SA. Most of those have been uncovered. I have NEVER caught anything. .[/QUOTE]I know of 2 guys that have got genital herpes from SA girls recently. Both guys have good taste in girls, are experienced hobbyist and are seeing higher end girls not the low rent ones. So it's not always the skank or streetwalker girl who passes it, these guys were only seeing the typical SA college / girl next door hotties. Both guys thought the girls they were seeing were low risk. They aren't pros, they are innocent college girls, what could go wrong right? LOL.

Don't want to be an alarmist but this stuff is out there and with everyone raw dogging each other on SA these days it's it's not surprising that we see a recent uptick in STD risks and transmission.

When you get STD tests make sure they are testing for HSV, not all tests do it automatically and you have to ask for it in many cases.

[QUOTE=PauFord;3874287]I know of 2 guys that have got genital herpes from SA girls recently. Both guys have good taste in girls, are experienced hobbyist and are seeing higher end girls not the low rent ones. So it's not always the skank or streetwalker girl who passes it, these guys were only seeing the typical SA college / girl next door hotties. Both guys thought the girls they were seeing were low risk. They aren't pros, they are innocent college girls, what could go wrong right? LOL.

Don't want to be an alarmist but this stuff is out there and with everyone raw dogging each other on SA these days it's it's not surprising that we see a recent uptick in STD risks and transmission.

When you get STD tests make sure they are testing for HSV, not all tests do it automatically and you have to ask for it in many cases.[/QUOTE]Three interesting things about HSV. 1) According to the CDC (US Centers for Disease Control) more than 85% of the people with genital HSV don't know they have it, but are nevertheless infectious (people with HSV are, however, only infectious part of the time). 2) HSV is a skin contact disease that can be present on many body parts not protected by condoms, and can be contracted on many body parts not protected by condoms. Studies show that condoms reduce the risk of acquiring HSV by, best case, about 50%. 3) Blood test for HSV antibodies can give a false negative for many weeks, even a couple months, after the first outbreak. A negative HSV blood test tells you, with certainty, that the person tested was clean as of about 3 months prior.

Thanks for all the information. It is very true that we all need to be careful inside the bedroom. I know of many friends that have gone to the SA site in order to get their BB fix. They think those girls are meek and humble. What their finding out is if their willing to sleep on the first date, they will with the others if the price is right. Be careful Mongers!

So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

The one girl I've been texting agreed to dinner, but then told me she was working Friday night and would need 1 k for the night. I told her nothing until we have dinner first (I'll buy) and she agreed. After we fixed a night and time for dinner she then told me she wanted me to uber her from some place far away from the city (will cost about $50 to do this). What do you guys think?

Also what can I do to increase response rate? Or is this the rate to expect more or less? Most of my initial messages are 2 sentences: 1 sentence commenting on something specific in her profile casually, the next sentence saying I'd love to buy her dinner some day and which day could work.

Thanks for any help guys!

[QUOTE=Jaster191;3875490]So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

The one girl I've been texting agreed to dinner, but then told me she was working Friday night and would need 1 k for the night. I told her nothing until we have dinner first (I'll buy) and she agreed. After we fixed a night and time for dinner she then told me she wanted me to uber her from some place far away from the city (will cost about $50 to do this). What do you guys think?

Also what can I do to increase response rate? Or is this the rate to expect more or less? Most of my initial messages are 2 sentences: 1 sentence commenting on something specific in her profile casually, the next sentence saying I'd love to buy her dinner some day and which day could work.

Thanks for any help guys![/QUOTE]Your experience so far has been par for the course based on my experience. Like any other dating site, there are plenty of bogus profiles out there (girls who gave up but never deactivated their account, weirdos creating fake accounts with stolen pics just for whatever reason, or even fake ones by the site itself to help make it seem like there's more in your area). Get used to the response rate being low. Honestly, having 25% actually even look at your profile after sending a message is pretty damned good.

Based on the way you're talking, I'm guessing the 1 k allowance was probably a little more than you were planning. If that's the case, I wouldn't have bothered to set up a meet, but rather just politely declined and been honest that it was too much. This would have resulted in one of 3 possible outcomes:

1) The girl decides you're not offering enough and just ghosts.

2) The girl truly has GPS, insists that she's worth it and tries to convince you to agree to her terms.

3) The girl decides she'll make an exception for you this one time, and will lower her expectations.

IMHO, scenario 3 is the only one I consider, but I proceed with caution. She's got to hold a decent conversation with me (text or messaging) and I need to feel confident she's not going to hustle me if we end up meeting. If she's actually willing and able to put together some coherent thoughts and doesn't just complain about how expensive life is. More or less, doesn't keep bringing up money, I MIGHT schedule a meet.

Personally, I've never run into the issue that you had where she wanted you to uber her in from somewhere else. I tend to arrange meet-ups somewhere convenient for us both and have been lucky enough never to have a girl pull that sort of stunt. If what happened to you were to happen to me, I'd cut anchor and move on to the next. It's just a sign of more drama, there will always be some other thing that they expect outside of the allowance. (This latter part has happened to me, and I quickly ended that arrangement, as I'm not in it for bullshit, if I was, I'd be on a normal dating site).

Bottom line. Arrangements require a lot of lines to be put in the water and the girls don't want to think of themselves as trading their bodies for money (even if that might be exactly what they are doing.) So, keep sending messages, but treat the messages like a regular dating site. Also, if you want better responses, make sure you have some decent photos of yourself. Just like us guys, girls like full body shots so they know they're not getting someone whose body they find unattractive. Make sure you have a couple clear face shots, and some good full body ones and you'll be surprised how much of a difference that makes.

[QUOTE=Jaster191;3875490]So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

The one girl I've been texting agreed to dinner, but then told me she was working Friday night and would s![/QUOTE]

I only message ladies who have been on this site recently. If they have not been on for a few weeks, the chances of getting a response are a lot lower. I have had a couple that wanted me to Uber them to my place. They were like over an hour away and wanted to stay the night. I declined LOL. Just be patient. I get a lot of unsolicited messages from actual ladies that are new to the site. It takes time. I have found that the ladies that give very brief responses are ones that you are not going to end up meeting. Sometimes I get a ton of new messages and end up seeing two new ladies in a week.

[QUOTE=Pal5600;3864495]Chat with her and exchange phone number, but her monthly allowance is too high, try to get her down to ppm deal, but she said no, not sure if she will lower her asking price or not.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad5c8e39-32db-4e7b-b5ba-ce33afbd7e28[/URL][/QUOTE]How much did she want?

[QUOTE=Funsteve1111;3875783]I only message ladies who have been on this site recently. If they have not been on for a few weeks, the chances of getting a response are a lot lower. I have had a couple that wanted me to Uber them to my place. They were like over an hour away and wanted to stay the night. I declined LOL. Just be patient. I get a lot of unsolicited messages from actual ladies that are new to the site. It takes time. I have found that the ladies that give very brief responses are ones that you are not going to end up meeting. Sometimes I get a ton of new messages and end up seeing two new ladies in a week.[/QUOTE]I go even a step further. I only message girls who are online at the same time that I am on. Here is my thought behind it. Hot girls get a ton of messages. If you message her when she is not online, the next time she logs on chances are your message is in the bottom of the message list. If she has say 25 new messages when she logs in the next time, the odd of her replying to your message that is in the bottom is not that good. I have made exceptions to this strategy on girls who I really want to talk to and some have replied. But from my experience, if you message a girl who is online, your chance of getting a reply is better.

I will leave one more tip. I log out and log back in every half hour. Just like us, some girls search by recently active. If you constantly log out and log back in, your profile will show up in the first page instead of page 5 that girls never get around to. I know this works because every time I log out and log back in again, I instantly get girls to view my profile. I am too cheap to buy the boost, so this is a work around. It's a pain to keep logging out and back in, but it works for me.

[QUOTE=Jaster191;3875490]So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

Also what can I do to increase response rate? Or is this the rate to expect more or less? Most of my initial messages are 2 sentences: 1 sentence commenting on something specific in her profile casually, the next sentence saying I'd love to buy her dinner some day and which day could work.

Thanks for any help guys![/QUOTE]I think the overall response rate is par for the course. The instant dinner invitation may be pushing some more cautious (and therefore more real and reasonable) girls off. I usually start with a little bit more casual banter about things on their profile or the site in general. If there's any kind of exchange at that point I try to move it over to text / email ASAP, and then move quickly to logistics. The site's messaging system isn't the greatest, but if a girl can't carry on a simple exchange in a decent amount of time, then odds are it won't work out anyway. I also wouldn't rule out a follow-up message to non-responders who still show up online. Its not like you have anything to lose and sometimes getting back on the top of their message list is all that was needed.

But the dinner invite before you've even exchanged pleasantries may be giving some girls pause. Even a quick bit of back-and-forth and then moving communication off the site may put more of them at ease. And of course some may be more comfortable with coffee during the day, etc. Than a formal dinner as a first meet.

The Uber option depends on each situation. I've paid a $15 Uber for a girl to get to a room that we were going to spend hours in at a PPM I found fair. But a long-distance round trip would make everything more expensive and difficult (probably the same even if both parties were driving). In general girls that can't manage their own transportation are going to be harder to deal with in general so I'd hope they were worth it in all the other ways!

Thanks guys for the advice!

I actually took myself off search because I initially got spammed by a bunch of girls I really wasn't remotely interested in. I guess you guys think that's a bad idea?

For the pictures, you guys are using real pictures of yourselves? I just put someone who looks like me. Maybe do that for the face shot and put some real body shots with face cropped out?

For first meet ups I should only pay for dinner or coffee or whatever right, don't pay them just to have dinner?

Thanks again really appreciate the guidance.

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[QUOTE=BudLover99;3875788]How much did she want?[/QUOTE]We actually exchange phone number and chatting about meet up, but then she said 3000-4000 per month, and we can meet about 2 times a week, I said I can do 400 per meet and see how we get along, but she just want a monthly allowance so I said no, idk maybe she change her mind now or maybe not, she is the type of girl I would interested / invest my money and time, but not everything work out the way I want it. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Pal5600;3876057]We actually exchange phone number and chatting about meet up, but then she said 3000-4000 per month, and we can meet about 2 times a week, I said I can do 400 per meet and see how we get along, but she just want a monthly allowance so I said no, idk maybe she change her mind now or maybe not, she is the type of girl I would interested / invest my money and time, but not everything work out the way I want it. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yea she told me 4000 per month and once a week. That's nuts.

I've been on SA for a little over a year now. I'd say I've had about one meet up on average per week, and typically a new girl as I like variety. My approach from day 1 was to make a profile that comes across very non-sketchy. I have a nicely written 3-5 sentence paragraph in the two categories. I do not have a public pic, only one private pic of me which is a selfie before a night out on the town. I answer all the pre-set stats questions (ht, body type, income, net worth) and I exaggerate all of them for the better. My goal is that when they click on my profile after my first message that my profile is welcoming, but also shows I'm serious about meeting.

As far as messaging. Use the filters to get it to the age and things you target, and then focus on the girls who are online, or at least online in the past day. First message I send is only a few sentences including a compliment on them physically, along with my interest in "discussing details to see if we're on the same page". I end it with the last line offering to send more pics of myself through text. I typically give access to my private pic along with my first message. Sometimes you'll get a response with a number right away because they're curious about the additional pics.

If you do get a response it's typically a brief sentence or two asking "what are you looking for? This is where a very sincerely written copy / paste message can help lay out what you're hoping to find. Just don't make it perverted, too long or overly specific. Mine says how I'm recently divorced, don't want to traditionally date, want one girl to meet weekly, and I'd provide allowance that we agree upon. I think putting in that you understand the allowance part helps them feel comfortable.

From there it's all negotiation if they're interested in what your copy / paste message said, and if you can pay the allowance. Meeting just be careful, but I typically just have them come to wherever I'm staying. You should have a good read on them after discussing the terms and always get at least one additional pic from them before meeting.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=BudLover99;3876137]Thanks. Yea she told me 4000 per month and once a week. That's nuts.[/QUOTE]So I ask her why monthly, she said that if she get paid per meet, she will feel like a hooker, but if you get monthly payment then is okay, WTF is going on in these girls head, can anyone figure it out.