"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I met a 20 yr POT last night, we agreed to meet at the FC on the next date. Looking back somethings don't sit right with me.

1. when I went to kiss her, she backed away. This was after we agreed to go to the FC.

2. she said she doesn't like to receive oral.

3. we went back and forth about the amount. I put out a number (2) , she came back high (3. 5) . I tried to accommodate her (by going to 3) and she came back with another counter (3. 25) it felt like I was buying a car.

She can't host so there is another cost on me.

I don't know.

I wouldn't even bother with her after that exchange. It's was a bad sign she backed away when you attempted to kiss her. In addition to that she doesn't like oral and you have to pay for accommodations after the auction like negotiations. My brother walk away from this one. Regroup and find another POT. I've came across females like that in the pass and just avoid them. Send out as many messages as you can to increase your chances of landing something much better.

[QUOTE=Telcova;2587224]I met a 20 yr POT last night, we agreed to meet at the FC on the next date. Looking back somethings don't sit right with me.

1. when I went to kiss her, she backed away. This was after we agreed to go to the FC.

2. she said she doesn't like to receive oral.

3. we went back and forth about the amount. I put out a number (2) , she came back high (3. 5) . I tried to accommodate her (by going to 3) and she came back with another counter (3. 25) it felt like I was buying a car.

She can't host so there is another cost on me.

I don't know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Telcova;2587224]I met a 20 yr POT last night, we agreed to meet at the FC on the next date. Looking back somethings don't sit right with me.

1. when I went to kiss her, she backed away. This was after we agreed to go to the FC.

2. she said she doesn't like to receive oral.

3. we went back and forth about the amount. I put out a number (2) , she came back high (3. 5) . I tried to accommodate her (by going to 3) and she came back with another counter (3. 25) it felt like I was buying a car.

She can't host so there is another cost on me.

I don't know.[/QUOTE]Run! At best she will be mechanical with lots of rules of engagement. There are lots better and cheaper out there. 3. 5 is high and should be reserved for stellar 10/10 performance.

Since the recent discussion with a member who is strongly considering tossing his marriage for a life of SD-ing, I thought I would check around to see if anyone reading this has done this yet? And if so, would be very curious to hear how long ago, how the decision has worked out for you, anything else you'd like to add about the experience.

To clarify, I am talking about embarking on specifically terminating the marriage as amicably as possible in order to pursue girls they've met on sites like SA, SD4 M, etc. In other words, I'm not counting cases where the wife caught you cheating and "helped" the decision, or Ashley Madison type hookups, or general cases of sex addiction where porn and hookers just got wedged in between the original dream and created an irreparable gap in common interests, or if you were already long divorced before you discovered SB websites. Online trysts and sex addiction divorces are of course nothing new, I'm wondering specifically about cases where an SB talked someone into leaving their wife, or someone that just decided to make a lifelong commitment to the bowl.

Any war stories, tales of ongoing bliss, etc? I'm sure all of us with an SO have considered it at one time.

Update, did not intend to create a new thread here, meant to put it under the main SB thread. Unfortunately I cannot delete, will try to see if Admin can move.

[QUOTE=Telcova;2587224]I met a 20 yr POT last night, we agreed to meet at the FC on the next date. Looking back somethings don't sit right with me.

2. she said she doesn't like to receive oral.

I don't know.[/QUOTE]Not open to receiving oral is a absolute deal killer for me. Thankfully I rarely encounter a woman who doesn't relish oral attention.

Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.

I have had 10+ threesomes all at the request of the girl I was seeing. Either a fantasy of there's or as a "present" for me. The best were spontaneous with a great connection with the girls. The worst were pre- arranged and either the girl did with me or the girl I was seeing.

I am continuously surprised at how open minded and sexually adventurous young women are today. If they were that adventurous when I was in my 20's, I was clueless (which may have been the case LOL). There are many women who are open to and fantasize about a three some.

I would recommend meeting the pot together with your baby over drinks. No expectations other than to see if their is shared chemistry. If the chemistry is there, everything should happen pretty naturally.

In my best experiences, we went straight from the meet and greet to the FC while I was driving and they were naked and getting to know each other in my back seat. Good times, good times! LOL.

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

.[/QUOTE]My experience was with 2 escort friends who were not into each other. I think the best would be 2 girls who are into each other yet willing to work you into the rotation. I would study up on 3-some porn and script out a plan so you can optimize the P.S. Experience.

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.[/QUOTE]My advice is to let her find the 3rd. Have her open account as a sugar mommy, and mention in the profile that she's the baby looking for a third.

Girls are much more open to being approached by another woman than the guy. The girls should get along better as well.

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.[/QUOTE]My search first started after spending a couple hours with my SB at a strip club. We tried to get the stripper to leave with us but no dice. What it did do was plant the idea firmly in my head.

I took the lead in planning. I contacted about 20 POTS on SA and told them exactly what we were seeking, physically described my SB, and if they expressed interest I moved it to email. There I sent them a couple of my favorite pics of my SB and described the potential evening: Dinner, drinks and if everyone was game, playtime. Told them that at a minimum they'd get a nice dinner & drinks out of the night.

I had 5 POTS and let my SB have the final say. She was ok with 3 of them.

In the end, we ended up getting together with her friend. I figured that since she knew her she'd be more into it. Didn't work that way. I got the idea her friend was only there for a paycheck and it was a disappointing experience. Would've worked better, I think, if I had continued to handle things.

[QUOTE=Telcova;2587224]I met a 20 yr POT last night, we agreed to meet at the FC on the next date. Looking back somethings don't sit right with me.

1. when I went to kiss her, she backed away. This was after we agreed to go to the FC.

2. she said she doesn't like to receive oral.

3. we went back and forth about the amount. I put out a number (2) , she came back high (3. 5) . I tried to accommodate her (by going to 3) and she came back with another counter (3. 25) it felt like I was buying a car.

She can't host so there is another cost on me.

I don't know.[/QUOTE]I agree with everyone else, run. She has already shown signs that the performance is not going to be satisfying. That is far too much to pay in this world. There are far too many that will give you a stellar performance for 150 - 200. One rule I have is that I do not negotiate with them. It's a sign of weakness. I establish what I think a reasonable donation is for them, usually no more than 150, and stick to it. If you feel like you were buying a car, expect the same feeling as you leave the FC.

[QUOTE=BillCullen;2587846]My search first started after spending a couple hours with my SB at a strip club. We tried to get the stripper to leave with us but no dice. What it did do was plant the idea firmly in my head.

I took the lead in planning. I contacted about 20 POTS on SA and told them exactly what we were seeking, physically described my SB, and if they expressed interest I moved it to email. There I sent them a couple of my favorite pics of my SB and described the potential evening: Dinner, drinks and if everyone was game, playtime. Told them that at a minimum they'd get a nice dinner & drinks out of the night.

I had 5 POTS and let my SB have the final say. She was ok with 3 of them.

In the end, we ended up getting together with her friend. I figured that since she knew her she'd be more into it. Didn't work that way. I got the idea her friend was only there for a paycheck and it was a disappointing experience. Would've worked better, I think, if I had continued to handle things.[/QUOTE]This Works Sometimes

"Well I don't really negotiate and here's why. I feel every girl is worth what she perceives her value to be, whatever that amount is. If I tell you that you are worth less, then your opinion of me is going be less as well. And I don't see that as an ideal place to start a relationship of any kind.

But I will say this. You are new to this and here is what you are going to find out. Is that many of the guys on here are full of shit. And the ones that will pay more? Well guess what? . They want every girl they can have, and at those higher amounts they can have any girl they want. So they see you a few times (or once) and then poof. They're gone.

Now maybe that's all you want. But I need something reasonable, long term and someone I can count on.

What about you?"

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2588062]I agree with everyone else, run. She has already shown signs that the performance is not going to be satisfying. That is far too much to pay in this world. There are far too many that will give you a stellar performance for 150 - 200. One rule I have is that I do not negotiate with them. It's a sign of weakness. I establish what I think a reasonable donation is for them, usually no more than 150, and stick to it. If you feel like you were buying a car, expect the same feeling as you leave the FC.[/QUOTE]This Works Sometimes.

"Well I don't really negotiate and here's why. I feel every girl is worth what she perceives her value to be, whatever that amount is. If I tell you that you are worth less, then your opinion of me is going be less as well. And I don't see that as an ideal place to start a relationship of any kind.

But I will say this. You are new to this and here is what you are going to find out. Is that many of the guys on here are full of shit. And the ones that will pay more? Well guess what? . They want every girl they can have, and at those higher amounts they can have any girl they want. So they see you a few times (or once) and then poof. They're gone.

Now maybe that's all you want. But I need something reasonable, long term and someone I can count on.

What about you?

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2587211]Really enjoyed the blog. That is a very nice budget to work with.

So you typically pay $400 per escort session? $200 per hour and you usually book 2 hr right?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm mostly booking 2 hours. However sometimes only have time for one.

One of the ladies I met had two profiles on SA. The profiles were polar opposite of each other. One profile portrayed the girl next door and the other portrayed a submissive.

Woman looking for dominant man sexually. Any of you guys ever came across a similar situation? The funny thing about I met her under the girl next door profile and she.

Explain to me that she had two profiles up on the website. We did hit the FC and she was inexperience but submissive. I actually came across the profile in my quest to find.

Some new females to meet for my upcoming trip.