Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Bvrpdx;7259597]Maybe the "cat" in question could chill out a little bit read through old posts instead of typing out 5 and 6 paragraphs about how good he is and his boy D. I've never paid more than $$ for an hour of fun. If I'm not looking for any massage I just go in for 30 minutes, pay the house and drop $100 and ask for boom boom. No point in wasting time if I'm just looking for a quick, sure thing.

Stop over paying. Learn how to walk or say no. If you took a 90 minute bus ride out there and don't want to waste the ride for nothing, then maybe this hobby isn't for you. Or keep wasting your cash. As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted.[/QUOTE]I am chill bro LOL. It's not that deep, but I got to ask man LOL. Why are some of you LOL so passive aggressive man LOL & can't address people directly LOL? Like forreal man it's not that difficult. We all likely grown ass men in our 30's & above let's act like it, all due respect. When I address someone I address them directly. I don't do the echo chamber click-ish stuff. It's lame to me. It's also not a conducive or welcoming aspect & it appears to be ganging up on folks. I have a different vernacular than you do so that's how I speak. The term, "Cat," is referring to a male / man. I'm from the hood from LA so a lot of talk that way. Also, as I told Gary your boy, that's how I write being expressive, lengthy etc. If bugs you then ignore it. Problem solved.

For me as I told Gary & others, my mantra is, "Some will, some won't, so what. " I don't go on the net or off the net looking for anyone's validation. Idgaf. The power of not giving a fuck is extremely liberating. I'm a solo type of cat unless I vet people extremely thoroughly & I determine I can walk side by side with them I mostly fly solo in life. I do me. I don't beat to someone else's drum. I beat to my own regardless of how people FEEL about me or what they think they know of me. Some find value in it as I had a plethora of folks DM me saying don't worry about X people hating blah blah & so on which I won't reveal fully what they said & keep it between us but I know some folks on this forum like what I say & ask my perspective & some don't like you two & that's okay.

You're entitled to feel how you like & I'm entitled not validate your opinion of me. Fair critique though if you feel I'm too lengthy in my responses cool. I mean it's subjective bro. I'm willing to part with $260 tops for an hr. I generally stay between the $200-240 range whether for an hh or an hr. As I said in other responses I attempted many times to implement what you're suggesting at A LOT of places over 4 going on 5 now months & only 7 or so times I've gotten $200 or so for an hr & $180 but it's very rare for me at least. I've walked away many times, taking my ball & going home or to another court & to no avail. At times it worked when it was slow or at not as popular places per se. Last time was two months ago with candy from nice spa which is probably the best FS option for Beaverton area. As I said to another guy in a response, that I got to hand it to him getting $200 or under at candy massage for an hr, in a very popular place is godly. Perhaps he's build a lot of rapport with them to get that price or he's very great like you're indicating of yourself here on convincing said AMP chick to take the amount you prefer for a massage plus boom boom.

Idk that's why I asked for context / details which I'm all about given my science / sports background.

Wouldn't say it's a hobby & a waste of time per se. I'm just a cat exercising my biological nature that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Information is only gathered by trial & error so yeah, at times you got to take L's to get to the W's as we say where I'm from. We can agree to disagree to disagree though. It's okay, it's alright. I have asked straight up for boom boom & most want to massage 5-15 minutes then get it on or do the massage then do boom boom after or the other way around boom boom first then massage like my recent experience at candy with Kiki. It all differs, but I've certainly tried. Whether you believe me or not that's fine. I respect the perspective of vets in this AMP shit. But I don't respect dogmatic aspects of authority per se nor click-ish stuff. Just my perspective. Thanks for the input anyway. I welcome constructive criticism etc. I just prefer it directly. All good.

Tried to visit Azure Spa today. The one on 122 and Powell, looks like it's had a number of names over time.

Christ on a cracker what the fuck is with this area? The area to park is full of broken down cars with people sleeping in them, guys passed out sleeping in the street and trash and crap all over. So I do a drive around and see the front gate on Powell, looks like a clean way to get in, I park in mini-mall lot behind the shop, avoiding cars doubling as makeshift houses dotting the lot. Take a walk, get propositioned by a strung out street walker that offered to blow me with her one tooth mouth for 50 bucks (nope). Get to the front of the shop with a sign to go around back. FUCK.

Got to walk back past the toothless hooker and I think alright, fine, I'll brave the campsite and landfill behind the shop to see the goodies inside. Nope, think again intrepid monger. As I come around back the two passed out dudes are awake, shirtless, pants falling off their asses fighting over the woman that's by the back gate, squatting and taking a piss in the street. Turned on a dime and walked back to my car to see a suspicious fella looking at my car like it's his next housing upgrade. Azure is off the list.

I'm not some suburbanite, afraid of a little urban grit. I didn't feel like it was a dangerous location, just more sad, annoying and fucking gross. Fuck, at least clear the busted up cars out of your customer parking if you want to make some $.

No pussy is worth that friction to get to, even free.

Not the nicest area but much better than Big Lots parking lot next to Azure. And if the weather is nice there are three three more spas to check out: Pink and Cherry Blossom short walk North on 122nd and Mayflower East of Azure on Powell.

The unsavory types, nothing to do about them other than walk past or come back later.

[QUOTE=Kinksty;7259994]Tried to visit Azure Spa today. The one on 122 and Powell, looks like it's had a number of names over time.

Christ on a cracker what the fuck is with this area? The area to park is full of broken down cars with people sleeping in them, guys passed out sleeping in the street and trash and crap all over. So I do a drive around and see the front gate on Powell, looks like a clean way to get in, I park in mini-mall lot behind the shop, avoiding cars doubling as makeshift houses dotting the lot. Take a walk, get propositioned by a strung out street walker that offered to blow me with her one tooth mouth for 50 bucks (nope). Get to the front of the shop with a sign to go around back. FUCK.

Got to walk back past the toothless hooker and I think alright, fine, I'll brave the campsite and landfill behind the shop to see the goodies inside. Nope, think again intrepid monger. As I come around back the two passed out dudes are awake, shirtless, pants falling off their asses fighting over the woman that's by the back gate, squatting and taking a piss in the street. Turned on a dime and walked back to my car to see a suspicious fella looking at my car like it's his next housing upgrade. Azure is off the list.

I'm not some suburbanite, afraid of a little urban grit. I didn't feel like it was a dangerous location, just more sad, annoying and fucking gross. Fuck, at least clear the busted up cars out of your customer parking if you want to make some $.

No pussy is worth that friction to get to, even free.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BobA0;7260165]Not the nicest area but much better than Big Lots parking lot next to Azure. And if the weather is nice there are three three more spas to check out: Pink and Cherry Blossom short walk North on 122nd and Mayflower East of Azure on Powell.

The unsavory types, nothing to do about them other than walk past or come back later.[/QUOTE]Damn, I should have walked to Cherry or Pink. How are those places? Standard FS available? I'll do a search here, but would love to hear any newer reports.

[QUOTE=Kinksty;7259994]Tried to visit Azure Spa today. The one on 122 and Powell, looks like it's had a number of names over time.

Christ on a cracker what the fuck is with this area? The area to park is full of broken down cars with people sleeping in them, guys passed out sleeping in the street and trash and crap all over. So I do a drive around and see the front gate on Powell, looks like a clean way to get in, I park in mini-mall lot behind the shop, avoiding cars doubling as makeshift houses dotting the lot. Take a walk, get propositioned by a strung out street walker that offered to blow me with her one tooth mouth for 50 bucks (nope). Get to the front of the shop with a sign to go around back. FUCK.

Got to walk back past the toothless hooker and I think alright, fine, I'll brave the campsite and landfill behind the shop to see the goodies inside. Nope, think again intrepid monger. As I come around back the two passed out dudes are awake, shirtless, pants falling off their asses fighting over the woman that's by the back gate, squatting and taking a piss in the street. Turned on a dime and walked back to my car to see a suspicious fella looking at my car like it's his next housing upgrade. Azure is off the list.

I'm not some suburbanite, afraid of a little urban grit. I didn't feel like it was a dangerous location, just more sad, annoying and fucking gross. Fuck, at least clear the busted up cars out of your customer parking if you want to make some $.

No pussy is worth that friction to get to, even free.[/QUOTE]Been to that place since year ago, I think it was first called 7 stars and SummerSun and now Azure.

I only been there few times and only in broad day light and park very far away.

I've seen what you described and seen car with broken windshield parked there.

Not sure who on here suddenly decided to talk about this place?

Location is dangerous, the whole plaza is literally surrounded by black fence, girl quality is Bad (from what other forum member said).

I think the business owner should think very hard and carefully where they want to open businesses, they should at least ensure the safety of their girls and their $$$ customers.

[QUOTE=AmaznAzn;7259529]Is it just me or are the majority of all conversations on this board focusing on just a handful of spas? I haven't had time to read each post lately, but seems to be a little redundant right now, maybe I'm just popping in at the right times to see similar posts.[/QUOTE]Those spas are mentioned to save you lots of wasted time and effort and perhaps safety (if you went to Azure) or other Spa that's in downtown Portland location.

Those Spa thrive because of monger like us and if they make $$$ they can attract more higher tier girls to Portland versus us going to big cities.

Let's turn Portland from grannie shop to young girl shop. JK.

[QUOTE=Kinksty;7259994]Tried to visit Azure Spa today. The one on 122 and Powell, looks like it's had a number of names over time.

Christ on a cracker what the fuck is with this area? The area to park is full of broken down cars with people sleeping in them, guys passed out sleeping in the street and trash and crap all over. So I do a drive around and see the front gate on Powell, looks like a clean way to get in, I park in mini-mall lot behind the shop, avoiding cars doubling as makeshift houses dotting the lot. Take a walk, get propositioned by a strung out street walker that offered to blow me with her one tooth mouth for 50 bucks (nope). Get to the front of the shop with a sign to go around back. FUCK.

Got to walk back past the toothless hooker and I think alright, fine, I'll brave the campsite and landfill behind the shop to see the goodies inside. Nope, think again intrepid monger. As I come around back the two passed out dudes are awake, shirtless, pants falling off their asses fighting over the woman that's by the back gate, squatting and taking a piss in the street. Turned on a dime and walked back to my car to see a suspicious fella looking at my car like it's his next housing upgrade. Azure is off the list.

I'm not some suburbanite, afraid of a little urban grit. I didn't feel like it was a dangerous location, just more sad, annoying and fucking gross. Fuck, at least clear the busted up cars out of your customer parking if you want to make some $.

No pussy is worth that friction to get to, even free.[/QUOTE]LOL XD bruh you ain't lying LOL that joint around that area was skid row LOL XD I was over there over the last two days and seen what you're describing plus azure I've tried multiple times due to recent reviews and the past 6 times I've gone to it over mid last month & this month up to yesterday it was a no go & lack luster. So yeah I'm passing on it as well. Shit Is SUS asf LOL.

[QUOTE=BeavertronDoug;7258337]Can't tell if you're a shill or just a serial exaggerator.

I saw Judy this weekend. She's quite clearly in her mid 30's. She has loose skin and stretch marks on her stomach. She has very obvious fake tits. Don't get me wrong, she's attractive and I had a good time with her. But she's not a supermodel.

When's the last time you actually saw a real 24-25 year old woman with natural breasts?[/QUOTE]He's passionate about Love and that's all he ever talks about base on search ^_^

The dude doesn't even try to hide it, that's how dedicated he is

Reverse psychology at its best ^_^

[QUOTE=MixedPlate89;7258625]The homie & I stopped by today at Candy. Wanted him to try Anni. Told him by the end of it she'll be one of if not the best you had. Dude said LOL she's the best at this time he's had at any AMP. High energy, playful, sexy body & great head game, plus great sex. He was very pleased. As for me with Kiki she was happy to see me, as not too long ago I went & clapped Anni's cheeks again. Had a partial 3 some with Anni & Kiki per my last review. Kiki has nice D or so natural breasts. Thought they may have been fake but they ain't to my surprise.

Kiki is a solid cute late 30's chick. Nice little ass with big breatasies. Very submissive & sweet & has a sexy moan. She remembered me from last time, and was definitely into me so we skipped the massage & went straight to the bed & got busy. Head game was very good. Eye contact was good. She likes to play with the nips & lips often, as well as a slight pinch which ain't my thing, liking & jerking off by chick in okay with it but yeah either way it was cool. Sensitive clit. She Wanted DATY, But as I said it ain't my thing. I won't be doing that ever given my perspective on that when a chick been ran through is non-negotiable..[/QUOTE]I agreed on KiKi. Very submissive & sweet & has a sexy moan.

I'll be paying her another visit soon.

[QUOTE=SageSix;7260240]I agreed on KiKi. Very submissive & sweet & has a sexy moan.[/QUOTE]My guy, glad you enjoyed yourself with her till next visit. Have you tried Anni yet?

[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;7260548]Here's my perspective: there are multiple users here that are posting glowing reviews, or (in my opinion) paying more than they need to, or acting like a shill, or combinations of these things. Plus there are members here that don't post, but the potential is there.

It's not just one person. My post was intended for members that may be doing any of those behaviors.

On a separate note I'd like to compliment you. You have a flair for writing descriptions. I think my narratives are written in a lame way.

I'll send you a follow up message. Peace.[/QUOTE]Can't believe we are still talking about the price topic!

If some of you have success with $200 or lower then continue to do so, NO ONE is out there to persuade you in any shape or form. All you have to do is STICK with it. Just because someone says they pay more for something you pay less of it, doesn't mean they are there to promote it or persuade you to do otherwise. My personal price range depends on the shop i go to and the quality of girl that i got, there is no set value like some of you like to flaunt about.

Few that overpaid in your opinion wouldn't change the market would it? Then let them do what they want, they can read the forum and decide for themselves. We are all adults with decision making skills.

What's there to talk about then?

P.S. This is not directed against you WarpFactor, just using your post as reference point.

[QUOTE=SageSix;7260868]Can't believe we are still talking about the price topic!

If some of you have success with $200 or lower then continue to do so, NO ONE is out there to persuade you in any shape or form. All you have to do is STICK with it. Just because someone says they pay more for something you pay less of it, doesn't mean they are there to promote it or persuade you to do otherwise. My personal price range depends on the shop i go to and the quality of girl that i got, there is no set value like some of you like to flaunt about.

Few that overpaid in your opinion wouldn't change the market would it? Then let them do what they want, they can read the forum and decide for themselves. We are all adults with decision making skills.

What's there to talk about then?

P.S. This is not directed against you WarpFactor, just using your post as reference point.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself bro. It's subjective. Me being one of the one's that allegedly, "overpay," doesn't dictate the market. As I said in responses & I'm speaking in general I believe there's a lot of context / detail missing on some cats being able to get $200 or lower from any or some AMP's. I have mention this & I'm not trying to stir the pot, but I want transparency on this topic especially being that SOME cats beat us over the head with this this pricing shit, and SOME allege that folks like me are fools, or are ruining it for others when that simply is not the case.

Furthermore, my belief is that those who are able to consistently get $200 or under for an hr at all or some AMP's are for the following reasons & this is just my perspective, I could certainly be wrong:

- They have been to shop X a shit ton of times & often go weekly or every two weeks or monthly & thus they build rapport with these shops & that perhaps maybe as to why they have the ability to get a lower price pt then most of us.

- they're attractive & the AMP chicks at shops they go to find customer X to be attractive to say I'll take you at whatever you want.

- Customer X who is able to get $200 & under for an hr massage plus boom boom knows the trends meaning they know the least busy days & recon so much on chicks & places etc that they may know which places they can get away per se with getting the price they deem as fair. That's why I ask for names of places & masseuses. However, I don't see folks mentioning exact folks & places they just give approximate locations etc being secretive about it. To be honest we men are competitive. It's our biological instinct. So I'm not expecting any cats here to give up the game or secrets etc cause a lot of cats may act under a scarcity mindset. In other words, if more people know about chick or shop X it'll ruin my thing I got going on. I get it on withholding info that's fine. I have no issue with it. I do take objection though to folks being so adamant on pricing claims etc & making positive claims on person X is overpaying & I think the context is missing & that they should try to understand that my experience isn't relative to there's on a ability to negotiate, and if I have rapport with said shop whereas they do I don't. Thing is, most of us like new poonani so we don't frequent the same shop not even the same shop & different girls. We go to new shops for example to try different girls. Just my perspective, but we'd have a much more nuanced, and transparent conversation here on this topic & without folks getting pressed on it. The common ground is we all like fucking LOL & like fucking AMP chicks LOL so that should be the focus. Not belittling folks over much ado. About. Nothing. Just my perspective.

I want to mention other reasons, but I'm gon hold off LOL XD it'll be too direct & abrasive & it'll probably be offensive for some & I'm not trying to start shit being they're some at least two cats currently who are admins or senior members whatever that have issues with me so I ain't trying to stir the pot. However, I have sneaky suspicions LOL as to why very few of us can get $200 or less at shops for an hr massage plus boom boom or whatever. I only listed the other legit pts but not the "controversial," LOL per se ones. I'll say this though, again to be fair, these guys doing this could be attractive dudes & have the gift of gab & plus rapport so they're able to do things most of us can't or can't yet at least or as consistently as they can. I have provided the amount of times over 4-5 months of when I got $200 or $180 for boom boom plus massage & the last person & at said shop I got $200 for an hr massage plus boom boom in Candy at nice spa. I also was transparent on her being in her mid 40's or so which I believe to play a factor to a degree on this topic. Candy, although older is a hot body MILF. A solid 6 I'd say. Facially not as great but not terrible but body is ELITE imo & sex game as well. For me fulfilling a fantasy of shagging hot to good looking MILF's LOL is a thing I want to explore more & she was the first 2 months ago into my 5 month rookie AMP LOL campaign.

Anyway, to your pt I'll use Osaka a popular AMP LOL more like brothel LOL. They have a set pt price of $250 for an hr. Their is zero negotiation & that's the market they set plus they got no distractions options & you can choose from the girls plus the set up is very intimate & comfortable like candy massage but more so. AMP parlors will look at places & compete with them & it's more dictated on that then the allegations of someone like me willing to part with $260 tops for an hr massage plus boom boom. I wouldn't mind having this conversation live or whatever but it has to be objective & far more nuanced & transparent imo without any emotion to it. That's where I'm on it. If one is paying whatever idgas personally. I budget all the time & I'm financially responsible & live a minimalist lifestyle mostly so I recently got into this LOL. Everyone has a price they're willing to accept or not including AMP folks so yeah it's subjective at best & contextual as well. Thanks for acknowledging the opposition or rather highlighting differences & being neutral.

[QUOTE=SageSix;7260868]Can't believe we are still talking about the price topic!

If some of you have success with $200 or lower then continue to do so, NO ONE is out there to persuade you in any shape or form. All you have to do is STICK with it. Just because someone says they pay more for something you pay less of it, doesn't mean they are there to promote it or persuade you to do otherwise. My personal price range depends on the shop i go to and the quality of girl that i got, there is no set value like some of you like to flaunt about.

Few that overpaid in your opinion wouldn't change the market would it? Then let them do what they want, they can read the forum and decide for themselves. We are all adults with decision making skills.

What's there to talk about then?

P.S. This is not directed against you WarpFactor, just using your post as reference point.[/QUOTE]All I was doing was talking about the new pricing models at these FS only shops.

Used to be, shops were $60/ hr, you'd get a decent massage for at least 40 minutes and then not quite sure what would happen after the flip, but you'd tip according to the services rendered, up to $140. So up to $200 for an hour including FS. And if anybody got shorted on time, they'd be in here complaining.

These new FS places are not interested in massage at all. They act surprised when you ask for a massage, and if you do get one (even when paying for an hour) it will be about 10 minutes then flip and on with business. Whether you pay for 30 minutes or an hour, you will be out of there in 30 minutes.

I have no doubt you can walk into any shop and get FS for $200, but you still be done in 30 minutes. They are not going to give you a 40 minute massage and then FS.

[QUOTE=Joepdx;7261220]I have no doubt you can walk into any shop and get FS for $200, but you still be done in 30 minutes. They are not going to give you a 40 minute massage and then FS.[/QUOTE]My suggestion is to keep trying different places. The handful of shops that keep getting mentioned here are getting lots of attention, and are therefore busy. But there are so many other choices for you to explore.

I like to "play" first, then get massage after. Usually, I've had good luck getting my full time when paying for an hour. However, if only one girl is working and you went at a busy time (for example around lunch time), it could be more challenging.

Also, if you go to a popular place and get the current star, it might be harder to get an uninterrupted hour. For example, I recently went to shop X, got popular girl Y. We had an intense play time for the first 30-35 minutes, then girl Z came in and gave me a good massage to finish my hour. Not as hot as first girl but still attractive, I would not object to getting horizontal with her. But that scenario worked out pretty good for me. I had a hot play time then a good massage, and got my hour.

Perhaps you could choose a different shop that's not so focused on full service, to get what you want.

The highly talked about and trafficked places. I like the small quiet off the beat places which are not a gang bang central and the girls are hot bunking the tables with out changing the sheets. Seen this before Guys waiting in the parking lot, Guys in the lobby on the sofa, All waiting their turn with the girl. I wonder how many she serviced that day. A bit off putting. I am not judging the girl. But just not what I am into. Sharing is not sometime caring. LOL.

Outer areas less trafficked are more fun. Have a great day Guys.

Might just hit my my regular girl for a blow and go.