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[QUOTE=LuvInIt007;4163027][URL]https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2944898002/[/URL]
Orlando too.[/QUOTE]Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.
[QUOTE=MrOrlando;4163468]Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.[/QUOTE]There goes my afternoon plans. This news sucks, not sure I will be comfortable going back to these locations ever again knowing they are capable of this style sting now.
[QUOTE=MrOrlando;4163468]Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.[/QUOTE]Too late for that, this sting has been going on for months now.
[QUOTE=MrOrlando;4163468]Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.[/QUOTE]This model can be established anywhere. LE opted to test it out in Jupiter. I'd be careful wherever you go. Really the only safe place are escorts who screen, but that comes with additional costs. Good for the escorts, bad for we customers trying to watch our wallets. Get used to it and plan accordingly.
[QUOTE=Grain56;4162183]A little birdie told me there are many upgrades. All the latest hi tech gadgets have been added. Just you never mind all those new hidden cameras and microphones in the lobby, the TS rooms and the massage rooms. And don't forget about the new hi-def surveillance cameras and the license plate readers now installed in the parking area. All courtesy of the new owners, Uncle LEO and the Auntie MBI. Wink! LOL![/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing! They may have to build a police substation next door to process all of the customers. I'm staying away.
According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
[URL]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DingALing;4163238]One of the AMPs that got shutdown. I wonder if the Cops put hidden cameras in this place too? If you've been to Rainbow Spa recently, might want to be on your toes about what could happen to you.
Rainbow Spa: 1809-2 E. Colonial Drive, Orlando.[/QUOTE]I want to know how they can prove 100% that it's you in the video. Also how the hell did they plant hidden cameras with HD quality without anyone. Anyone noticing? There has to be cameras from the outside that are much more clear and that's what implicates famous people. For the average Joe unless you got a record with your face in the police database I don't see how they will figure out who you are.
If they hit GG or BO, its fucked for most of us LOL.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;4163729]If they hit GG or BO, its fucked for most of us LOL.[/QUOTE]If they didn't it would surprise me. If it's this easy for us guys to find these posts / threads I'm sure they have an agent or 10 reading / commenting here.
[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4163717]I want to know how they can prove 100% that it's you in the video. Also how the hell did they plant hidden cameras with HD quality without anyone. Anyone noticing? There has to be cameras from the outside that are much more clear and that's what implicates famous people. For the average Joe unless you got a record with your face in the police database I don't see how they will figure out who you are.[/QUOTE]Tags / Vehicles and DMV.
Male suspect was observed pulling into parking lot of Blah Blah spa at 7:30 pm, male suspect exited vehicle (a late model Ferrari 488), with tag number * vehicle registration came back to the male suspect later identified as Jake. Jake's identify was confirmed as matching the DMV photo on his drivers license.
HD camera's are tiny now, they can be put under a desk, strapped to a small plant and have batteries that will last for a few hours. Check Amazon for the teeny tiny HD cameras that they have for sale, very easy to hide.
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;4163729]If they hit GG or BO, its fucked for most of us LOL.[/QUOTE]Its a FACT that they read the board, they can't use what's said on here against you but it sure steers them in the right direction to what Spas are doing what.
[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4163734]If they didn't it would surprise me. If it's this easy for us guys to find these posts / threads I'm sure they have an agent or 10 reading / commenting here.[/QUOTE]Wonder how long they have kept this up, I went to GG last June, used an Uber to go to the restaurant next door and walked over. Hopefully I'm alright. Probably going to only be mongering outside the country now for sure. Idk how this will effect GG or BO probably wayyy less people now.
It is basically a numbers game! Because every year they are going to have a big bust is just a matter of when they do it and where we are when they do it. There is no way to stop it or prevent it they have to make some bus to make it look like they are doing their job.
[QUOTE=Deeez;4163638]According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
[URL]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/[/URL][/QUOTE]
I wonder how people will find out if they have a warrant and which counties are involved.
License plates can help them identify us individually. Remember the old Ocean Spa on JYP? I remember right before they we're raided, there was someone in the parking lot with a notepad. I told the girl inside and never went back. It was just a matter of days before it was busted. Update that to some newer technology, and DONE.
[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4163717]I want to know how they can prove 100% that it's you in the video. Also how the hell did they plant hidden cameras with HD quality without anyone. Anyone noticing? There has to be cameras from the outside that are much more clear and that's what implicates famous people. For the average Joe unless you got a record with your face in the police database I don't see how they will figure out who you are.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;4163752]Wonder how long they have kept this up, I went to GG last June, used an Uber to go to the restaurant next door and walked over. Hopefully I'm alright. Probably going to only be mongering outside the country now for sure. Idk how this will effect GG or BO probably wayyy less people now.[/QUOTE]Let's get a group gathering in Thailand 😂.
Same here though. Mongering will be done overseas for now LOL.
[QUOTE=FlSurfer123;4163758]I wonder how people will find out if they have a warrant and which counties are involved.[/QUOTE][URL]http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/restricted/PAS/person/WantedPersons.jsf[/URL]
[QUOTE=FellowGuy;4163759]License plates can help them identify us individually. Remember the old Ocean Spa on JYP? I remember right before they we're raided, there was someone in the parking lot with a notepad. I told the girl inside and never went back. It was just a matter of days before it was busted. Update that to some newer technology, and DONE.[/QUOTE]Good point and a great reason to always uber there even if it's from a mile away.
News report says this was an 8 month investigation.
Sox.
[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4163768][URL]http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/restricted/PAS/person/WantedPersons.jsf[/URL][/QUOTE]Well I'm not on here and I have only frequented locations in seminole county for massages only. So hopefully I'm good.
[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4163762]Let's get a group gathering in Thailand 😂.
Same here though. Mongering will be done overseas for now LOL.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal, safe and great in the D are. I have friends who visit once a quarter. Low cost and no Uncles.
[QUOTE=JustAsk9;4163768][URL]http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/restricted/PAS/person/WantedPersons.jsf[/URL][/QUOTE]Just ran my info and no warrants PHEW! Time to go jerk it to celebrate LOL.
[QUOTE=FlSurfer123;4163758]I wonder how people will find out if they have a warrant and which counties are involved.[/QUOTE]That would be the million dollar question. Currently, the only link to Orlando was that the people involved down south owned a couple in this area as well that were shutdown by association, no mention of those being monitored as part of this sting.
FYI from the best I can determine, the AMPs involved in this latest sting are:
1. East Spa, Gene Street, Winter Park.
2. Rainbow Spa, 1809-2 East Colonial Drive, Orlando.
3. East Spa, Vero Beach.
4. AA Massage, Sebastian.
5. East Sea Spa, Sebastian (unincorporated Indian River County).
6. Orchids of Siam. Jupiter.
7. Bridge Day Spa, Hobe Sound.
8. Sequoia Apple Day Spa, Hobe Sound
9. Therapy Spa, Stuart
10. Cove Day Spa, Stuart
Another thing mentioned was that all Spas involved were opened in the last 3 years.
I hope this relieves some stress for some of you.
This is why I always thought the pay up front at Bo had its advantage. You don't have to do anything but a LEO check in the beginning. Even if they had cameras in the rooms, there are no negotiations. I wonder what they'll do about that. Either way, ducking down for now. Maybe for good. Stay safe.
SFG.
[QUOTE=SammFunGuy;4163880]This is why I always thought the pay up front at Bo had its advantage. You don't have to do anything but a LEO check in the beginning. Even if they had cameras in the rooms, there are no negotiations. I wonder what they'll do about that. Either way, ducking down for now. Maybe for good. Stay safe.
SFG.[/QUOTE]You would be having sexual intercourse on camera at a licensed massage shop. Does it really matter at that point if the exchange of money is observed? You clearly paid for your visit, so regardless if a tip was discussed feel like you'd be out of luck.
[QUOTE=Mclovin407;4163379]Dang they Got Robert Kraft on video![/QUOTE]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs for him! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porn stars, and ultra highdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!
P.S.: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's LOL) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, I guarantee you it will be the best investment you've made since buying the Patriots. I make the same offer to Hugh Grant, LOL.
SYM.
I am betting that the police are going to go after the owners and any high powered mongers like Kraft. This gets headlines, makes it look like they are doing something and scares people. Truthfully that is all the police leadership want. They will just intimidate the small fish into admitting something if they can get it.
My advise is always the same. Walk in, have a great massage and what happens in the room happens. I never ask for it, never say much and never really consent to give money. They just take it from the counter where I placed it and I forget to pick it up. Then I get up and walk out. If I get service great, if not then I post it and never go back. If the popo question you later then just say nothing and ask for your lawyer. Chances are if you did hit up these places that were in the sting then you will never get approached but the police are just trying to make your a $$-hole pucker up.
Will it stop me from going. Hell no.
Stay horny my friends.
Harry P.
[QUOTE=FellowGuy;4163427]I would be VERY careful about visiting any location right now. The news stories about Jupiter mention an Orange County link to the sting. BASTARDS!!
[URL]https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.twincities.com/2019/02/22/police-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-solicited-prostitute/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE]I heard that thwy weren't pursuing because it was deflated.
[QUOTE=HarryPlopper;4164091]I am betting that the police are going to go after the owners and any high powered mongers like Kraft. This gets headlines, makes it look like they are doing something and scares people. Truthfully that is all the police leadership want. They will just intimidate the small fish into admitting something if they can get it.
My advise is always the same. Walk in, have a great massage and what happens in the room happens. I never ask for it, never say much and never really consent to give money. They just take it from the counter where I placed it and I forget to pick it up. Then I get up and walk out. If I get service great, if not then I post it and never go back. If the popo question you later then just say nothing and ask for your lawyer. Chances are if you did hit up these places that were in the sting then you will never get approached but the police are just trying to make your a $$-hole pucker up.
Will it stop me from going. Hell no.
Stay horny my friends.
Harry P.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly, hell they will come across one of tjere own and slow down. Being a widower myself I understand kraft, I go to bo or gg or see an escort when I miss the touch of a woman, but damn if I was a billionaire in his position I wouldn't be going to an AMP. Some serious hot hot ladies would be on call.
This won't stop me, hell if anything I'm waiting 3 days and if all you mongers follow through and don't go, then when I go, I'm going with 160 total and getting an hour massage, supply and demand is what mamassan at bo said. I pay at counter, never once ever mention any sex act and have fun. What happens in the room is between two people that were horny.
The investigations take from around 6 or 7 months to 8-9 and up.
[QUOTE=Redsox2005;4163786]News report says this was an 8 month investigation.
Sox.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4163967]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars!
SYM.[/QUOTE]Why do you do it? Sure the sex is great, but sometimes the hunt and chase that lead up to the event are a lot of fun! I read on the boards about guy partaking in this hobby for precisely that reason. Who is to say that Mr. Kraft is any different. Regardless, I am sorry for him to have to go through this trying time. I sure as hell would not want to go through it.
I don't know whether or not these women were sex trafficked or not. . . I sure hope not. The experience that I have had in just about every AMP I have been to would not support that, I mean the entusism that I have seen would not seem to me to be someone being forced to do this against their will. I just hope I am right.
Stay safe.
Gator.
I bet they have their ducks in a row here. They know the rules.
[QUOTE=IndianRiver;4162975]What about the "expectation of privacy" rule. True the spa is a public business but if you are in a private room you deserve your right to privacy. Any other approach would require a warrant from a judge. That is like putting a cam in a rest room. There are rules here. Could be a good court case regarding your right to privacy. Also when on camera most time it's is the table. You paying the therapist may not be. You are in trouble only if you admit to paying or they have you paying on camera. Always denie paying. Say she is a friend. My opinion.[/QUOTE]
Its Nature. Variety and thrill of the chase for me. Spread that seed and domination. Darn caveman mentality.
Harry P.
[QUOTE=Gator1961;4164380]Why do you do it? Sure the sex is great, but sometimes the hunt and chase that lead up to the event are a lot of fun! I read on the boards about guy partaking in this hobby for precisely that reason. Who is to say that Mr. Kraft is any different. Regardless, I am sorry for him to have to go through this trying time. I sure as hell would not want to go through it.
I don't know whether or not these women were sex trafficked or not. . . I sure hope not. The experience that I have had in just about every AMP I have been to would not support that, I mean the entusism that I have seen would not seem to me to be someone being forced to do this against their will. I just hope I am right.
Stay safe.
Gator.[/QUOTE]
Does she ever get topless during the massage? Is she worth seeing?
They must have video from inside the rooms. That seems to be the only way to allege a crime. Just walking in to the establishment is nothing. Heck, I once went in to one of these places just to get change. The girl just laughed and obliged my request.
[QUOTE=Gator1961;4164380]Why do you do it? Sure the sex is great, but sometimes the hunt and chase that lead up to the event are a lot of fun! I read on the boards about guy partaking in this hobby for precisely that reason. Who is to say that Mr. Kraft is any different...[/QUOTE]You go to strip mall AMPs for the "hunt and chase"? Seriously? That's like shooting fish in a barrel. There's zero hunt and zero chase! That said, I think you missed the entire point of my post.
SYM.
[QUOTE=DingALing;4163467]If you've visited any Orlando Spas within the past couple of months and done anything illegal at said spa, get your ducks in a row![/QUOTE]Any spa or just the two mentioned??
[QUOTE=Deeez;4163638]According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
[URL]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tcpalm.com/amp/2953948002[/URL]
$1. 2 B net worth John Childs, GOP donor.
https://dealbreaker.com/2019/02/john-havens-citi-prostitution-ring
$9M net worth.
When I heard they had bigger fish and knowing Jupiter was one of the cities, I was actually expecting a Tiger to come out of the Woods with the next report of a high profile person they have on video.
Grain 56.
[QUOTE=ChrisCarr;4164695][URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tcpalm.com/amp/2953948002[/URL]
$1. 2 B net worth John Childs, GOP donor.
https://dealbreaker.com/2019/02/john-havens-citi-prostitution-ring
$9M net worth.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deeez;4163638]According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
[URL]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/[/URL][/QUOTE]