BBBJ and BBFS

[QUOTE=GreekLover6;3464218]She has an incredible ass from behind, she will twerk while you fuck her brown eye, it's an awesome sight. She will do vids too.[/QUOTE]Link or #?

[QUOTE=Atlienz2016;3464588]I actually saw Shelby recently by chance. Was in Norcross trying to get together with a girl who ended up going silent on me. Was looking for someone else in the area and saw an ad that ended up being Shelby. Was going by a different name and her pics were edited so her tattoos were covered and couldn't see a face, so I didn't know it was her. I did think to myself that the ass looked like Shelby's. In the past she was very hard to get together with, but this time, she was pretty on top of responding, so that kind of threw me off as well. So, when I got there and she opened the door, I was a little surprised it was her, but she was looking good and was very nice, so I was happy to stay.

I know recently she has gotten a lot of bad publicity. I saw her once over a year ago and even then she got mixed reviews. Honestly I had a much better experience recently then a year ago. The first time I tried to see her last year she was really flaky. Tried her again a few months later and it was better, but rushed. There was no mention of a cover, but unfortunately she was pressed for time and I only got to enjoy the BBBJ. Someone else recently said she was now not offering anything uncovered, but I guess there's always exceptions. On my most recent visit, everything was covered, but it was an enjoyable one. One thing that surprised me, I reached back to play with her a little and she has like a full Bush going. I don't mind that at all, but I am just not used to seeing that. Some people have said she looks very worn down and I didn't think she looked that bad, though it's obvious things have taken a toll on her. I still found her cute, she's tight and that ass is amazing. As Greek mentioned, seeing it from behind is a sight to behold. She also didn't seem out of it or anything, though she is eccentric. I probably would not have seen her again if not by chance, but I was glad I got to go back and get the whole experience. She is a nice girl, but, from other reviews, it sounds like she is YMMV for sure.[/QUOTE]Link or #?

[QUOTE=Ichiatl;3467795]Link or #?[/QUOTE]Do a search, she's everywhere.

Finally caught up with Maddy and she is awesome. I'm on the opposite side of town so the logistics are sometimes hard but she decided to come over by STP for a change of pace and I didn't miss the opertunity. Maddy is a very sweet down to earth girl, layed back and wants you to be happy. She has that GND thing down, nice perky tits and a firm set of bubble butt hips to grab from the rear. Box is really tight and wet, and can ride well cg and rcg. She takes direction very well, not assertive but very talented and has good motion, no dead fish with this one. Maddy is also very easy to talk to and while you having rest and recovery time she knows how to carry on a conversation. She's open to about anything just let her know what's on your mind, she's pic and vid friendly as well. She will be coming out more towards STP and felt the area was nice and had far less issues then where she had previously been. So for you that are like me and didn't want to go far NE she will be frequenting the Cumberland / Marietta area. 1/1. 5/2 the level of service and menu makes it worth the coinage.

So if you are going ask a normal question why'all always ask it's probably yes, so don't ask or email me. She uses multiple numbers so just look for her ads tag line best GFE ever.

[QUOTE=GreekLover6;3469273]Finally caught up with Maddy and she is awesome. I'm on the opposite side of town so the logistics are sometimes hard but she decided to come over by STP for a change of pace and I didn't miss the opertunity. Maddy is a very sweet down to earth girl, layed back and wants you to be happy. She has that GND thing down, nice perky tits and a firm set of bubble butt hips to grab from the rear. Box is really tight and wet, and can ride well cg and rcg. She takes direction very well, not assertive but very talented and has good motion, no dead fish with this one. Maddy is also very easy to talk to and while you having rest and recovery time she knows how to carry on a conversation. She's open to about anything just let her know what's on your mind, she's pic and vid friendly as well. She will be coming out more towards STP and felt the area was nice and had far less issues then where she had previously been. So for you that are like me and didn't want to go far NE she will be frequenting the Cumberland / Marietta area. 1/1. 5/2 the level of service and menu makes it worth the coinage.

So if you are going ask a normal question why'all always ask it's probably yes, so don't ask or email me. She uses multiple numbers so just look for her ads tag line best GFE ever.[/QUOTE]Thanks for review. Maddy is a sexy GND for sure, I am really happy she is still in the game. I played with her a few months back and I consider her the full package. Girls like this spoiled me.

So I finally met this chick was trying to set some up with Maddy but couldn't get her to reply back and was feeling really horny so took a chance and decided to take a chance.

Called her and agreed on the donation and she texted me the address of a motel off north druid hills. Got there and I see this tall slender white girl. She's on something or something is wrong with her because she just kept on talking and talking and talking would not stop. To top that she has no ass whatsoever I mean I'm talking about pencil-thin but anyways since I was there I already gave her the donacion which was 120 for the half so I said just why not and go for it. Anyways she gets on her knees and starts to sucking and tells me I can record and still kept on talking about how she is so doing me a favor by taking only that much money because she's worth more and I'm like in my head saying stfu and just suck my dick woman.

Finally shuts up and gives a decent BBBJ and stops in like 3 minutes and says your ready. Ok.

I strap on and get on top of her and we start fucking and this girl was talking dirty and giving it good back to me only thing I like to grab some ass while I'm penetrating and she has none like none. Her box was also nothing to talk about as she's not tight to say the least but I focused and just tried to bust one so I can get the hell out of there and finally I do and clean up and get ready to leave and say my goodbye and she's talking and telling me stuff about her dead uncle and her mom and her brother and tells me she used to be a lesbian before and now she's straight and while she's talking I'm looking at her pencil thin ass and thinking to myself did I just fuck her and I got the fuck out of there and didn't look back.

Anyways if you want to toftt she's ok gives decent head once she shuts up and does dfk but will not BBFS.

I would give her 4. 5/10 and mostly because again she got no ass.

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/571-260-0966-tall-slender-sexy-dream-girl-and-naughty/68265263[/URL]

Maddy can be difficult to schedule with sometimes. She has a life outside of this biz and when she's off she doesn't answer her phone.

BUT, she is definitely worth it. I would suggest that you try again to get scheduled with Maddy, you won't regret it. She is so different than these other girls.

Maddy offers longer sessions which is what I usually go for. Other girls offer longer sessions to but I don't want to spend any extra time with most of them. I like spending extra time with Maddy. She is easy to talk to and fun to be around.

[QUOTE=DesiLover28;3469773]So I finally met this chick was trying to set some up with Maddy but couldn't get her to reply back and was feeling really horny so took a chance and decided to take a chance.

Called her and agreed on the donation and she texted me the address of a motel off north druid hills. Got there and I see this tall slender white girl. She's on something or something is wrong with her because she just kept on talking and talking and talking would not stop. To top that she has no ass whatsoever I mean I'm talking about pencil-thin but anyways since I was there I already gave her the donacion which was 120 for the half so I said just why not and go for it. Anyways she gets on her knees and starts to sucking and tells me I can record and still kept on talking about how she is so doing me a favor by taking only that much money because she's worth more and I'm like in my head saying stfu and just suck my dick woman.

Finally shuts up and gives a decent BBBJ and stops in like 3 minutes and says your ready. Ok.

I strap on and get on top of her and we start fucking and this girl was talking dirty and giving it good back to me only thing I like to grab some ass while I'm penetrating and she has none like none. Her box was also nothing to talk about as she's not tight to say the least but I focused and just tried to bust one so I can get the hell out of there and finally I do and clean up and get ready to leave and say my goodbye and she's talking and telling me stuff about her dead uncle and her mom and her brother and tells me she used to be a lesbian before and now she's straight and while she's talking I'm looking at her pencil thin ass and thinking to myself did I just fuck her and I got the fuck out of there and didn't look back.

Anyways if you want to toftt she's ok gives decent head once she shuts up and does dfk but will not BBFS.

I would give her 4. 5/10 and mostly because again she got no ass.

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/571-260-0966-tall-slender-sexy-dream-girl-and-naughty/68265263[/URL][/QUOTE]

I may be the only one that doesn't know what ITTGTBT means. LOL.

[QUOTE=GreekLover6;3464142]I see lots of people trying to have a full proof way of not getting ripped off. First rule ITTGTBT? Second rule is to be patient and let the head on your shoulders rule the one in your pants. Your wallet will appreciate it and you won't feel disappointed later leading you to more bad decisions. Myself I would rather cultivate a rapport with these girls that are worth it. When they decide to part time or just have their favorite customers to hang out you'll have a low mileage and probably stable arrangement. I have several girls that I've befriended and just chat with so they stay in the SD circle so when I want an encounter I can count it's worth my time and feel good about it. I have a very popular 5 yr provider that just wants occasional help with the bills and she and I chat back and forth like friends and it doesn't cost a dime. When we hook up it's a non rushed long date that's not an arm and a leg either. As the story goes be the old bull, take your time, walk down the hill, and fuck all the ones you want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3470104]I may be the only one that doesn't know what ITTGTBT means. LOL.[/QUOTE]Is this too good to be true?

OK so I called this chic and scheduled an easy in call off of delk rd at her apartment and boy when I seen her I was like dayum she got to a body on her. Man them titties were huge and she has a perfect ass for you to grab onto.

She welcomes me with a sloppy kiss and puts her tongue in my mouth.

As per the juicy details she told me to lay down on her bed and she climbs on top of me and starts kissing me and grinding her pussy on my dick, OMG. While I was sucking on her beautiful boobies she just kept grinding.

After that she puts my dick in her mouth and starts sucking it and it's really awesome with lots of suction and moaning.

Then she gets in doggie and tells me to put it in so I do and start fucking.

After a few minutes I tossed her over and got missionary and start kissing her DFK and get to fucking. She was so into it because she was grabbing me pushing me in more and more. Finally I busted in the cover and she helped me in cleaning up.

After that we still kept on kissing and she kept grinding her nice shapely ass on my dick.

After that we talked and said goodbye with some more kissing. This girl is a keeper I'm most certainly going to repeat.

All in all great chemistry and nice intimate session with a good BBBJ and a nice warm nookie.

Great attitude and a great gal.

If you guys see her treat her right she's a keeper.

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/real-pics-sexy-blasian-beauty-curvy-upscale-lexxii-exotic-and-sweet/67495758[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mrmojo69;3470037]Maddy can be difficult to schedule with sometimes. She has a life outside of this biz and when she's off she doesn't answer her phone.

BUT, she is definitely worth it. I would suggest that you try again to get scheduled with Maddy, you won't regret it. She is so different than these other girls.

Maddy offers longer sessions which is what I usually go for. Other girls offer longer sessions to but I don't want to spend any extra time with most of them. I like spending extra time with Maddy. She is easy to talk to and fun to be around.[/QUOTE]To be honest I can't wait to see her and especially after all these positive reviews who wouldn't. I'm going to keep on trying to get with her because I know it's going to be worth every dime.

On top of it I've never been with a gnd type white girl and just the thought turns me on like crazy. Well till I see her.

[QUOTE=Mrmojo69;3470037]Maddy can be difficult to schedule with sometimes. She has a life outside of this biz and when she's off she doesn't answer her phone.

BUT, she is definitely worth it. I would suggest that you try again to get scheduled with Maddy, you won't regret it. She is so different than these other girls.

Maddy offers longer sessions which is what I usually go for. Other girls offer longer sessions to but I don't want to spend any extra time with most of them. I like spending extra time with Maddy. She is easy to talk to and fun to be around.[/QUOTE]She's going to do the same tricks the cheaper girl does. Nothing special boss.

To each his own but most every review of Maddy is extremely high, I'll take into account ALL of you 14 posts, LOL. I went back and looked at my video at I saw a fine looking ass bouncing off me doggie while I hung onto her hips for life and blew deep on her. Your expectations are 500 hr models or you didn't impress her so your pissed, either way, she's a GEM.

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3470104]I may be the only one that doesn't know what ITTGTBT means. LOL.[/QUOTE]No, you're not. These guys make up these goddam acronyms like the rest of us would know what they are talking about because they're too lazy to type it out.

[QUOTE=GreekLover6;3470505]To each his own but most every review of Maddy is extremely high, I'll take into account ALL of you 14 posts, LOL. I went back and looked at my video at I saw a fine looking ass bouncing off me doggie while I hung onto her hips for life and blew deep on her. Your expectations are 500 hr models or you didn't impress her so your pissed, either way, she's a GEM.[/QUOTE]Yea Maddy is pretty awesome (thanks Mojo), people are surely missing out.

Hey I saw this ad on BP bare GFE a anal available.

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/freaky-blonde-sugar/71662393[/URL]

There ya go fellows.

[QUOTE=AlinSrq;3471418]Hey I saw this ad on BP bare GFE a anal available.

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/freaky-blonde-sugar/71662393[/URL]

There ya go fellows.[/QUOTE]She apparently has some "enforcers" scoping her clients. I think GreekLover mentioned this in an earlier comment, although he did not see her. It looks like she's now cleaned or commercially bleached her ass since posting earlier.

[QUOTE=GreekLover6;3470505]To each his own but most every review of Maddy is extremely high, I'll take into account ALL of you 14 posts, LOL. I went back and looked at my video at I saw a fine looking ass bouncing off me doggie while I hung onto her hips for life and blew deep on her. Your expectations are 500 hr models or you didn't impress her so your pissed, either way, she's a GEM.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone would think Maddy has a flat ass.

[QUOTE=ThatsTheSpot;3471955]I don't think anyone would think Maddy has a flat ass.[/QUOTE]I misread his post on first glance too. I kind of figured it out after rereading the review, because nothing he said sounded anything like Maddy. She definitely doesn't have a flat ass and she also never came across as someone that would talk too much.

[QUOTE=Atlienz2016;3472161]I misread his post on first glance too. I kind of figured it out after rereading the review, because nothing he said sounded anything like Maddy. She definitely doesn't have a flat ass and she also never came across as someone that would talk too much.[/QUOTE]Is Maddy BBFS or just BBJ?

[QUOTE=Atlienz2016;3472161]I misread his post on first glance too. I kind of figured it out after rereading the review, because nothing he said sounded anything like Maddy. She definitely doesn't have a flat ass and she also never came across as someone that would talk too much.[/QUOTE]Re-read it. He was talking about the provider he went to see when he couldn't get anything arranged with Maddy.

[QUOTE=PlaynAtl;3472328]Re-read it. He was talking about the provider he went to see when he couldn't get anything arranged with Maddy.[/QUOTE]That's what I was saying, I reread it and figured out he wasn't talking about her.

The ad linked below is a different one, but the ad I responded to said "anything goes" and almost no limits. When I arrived, she said she does nothing bare and no anal. She was decent looking -- short, petite, but flat chested. I might have stayed for either bare or anal, but neither is a deal breaker. I left.

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/bella-craving-something-the-perfect-treat-1-of-a-kind-bella-%D0%BD-%CA%80-%E1%83%A7%CE%BFu/71796648[/URL]

After reading a few reports -experiences, one question comes to my mind.

Do any of you guys think you have gotten away with getting the benefit of bare or gotten rejected for bare based on your look? (Even though I'm aware that some ho3's really stick to their own rules "money, health") Any experiences?

I am 57 white man with good grooming and dress. I am respectable and seem to fit a mold that a lot of providers seem to feel comfortable with. With that said I have had providers texst me nothing without cover and 5 minutes later walk in and get BBBJ and BBFS. I never inquire ahead of time but I seem to get bb more than 50% of the time. Sometimes it is at an up sale but usually very minimal. I feel like it is my profile that makes that happen. I like it cause covers cause me severe shrinkage at my older age if you know what I mean. Even though this is not scientific at all I will not bb with a provider if I feel there is reason for concern. I just hug and kiss and maybe a blowjob. Just an old mans view of things. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3472678]After reading a few reports -experiences, one question comes to my mind.

Do any of you guys think you have gotten away with getting the benefit of bare or gotten rejected for bare based on your look? (Even though I'm aware that some ho3's really stick to their own rules "money, health") Any experiences?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3472678]After reading a few reports -experiences, one question comes to my mind.

Do any of you guys think you have gotten away with getting the benefit of bare or gotten rejected for bare based on your look? (Even though I'm aware that some ho3's really stick to their own rules "money, health") Any experiences?[/QUOTE]Yes. But with my regular provider. My regular comes to me, and my place is like her home away from home. Shower, Fridge, TV, Wine & 420 . She makes herself comfortable. Sure, at first everything was covered, but after we got to know each other, I get BBBJCIM or COF on a regular basis. Is this based on my look? Perhaps it is, but it is also based on I keep a clean house, clean sheets, clean towels, nice shower, etc. Hell, many times we shower together before we get down and get busy!

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3472678]After reading a few reports -experiences, one question comes to my mind.

Do any of you guys think you have gotten away with getting the benefit of bare or gotten rejected for bare based on your look? (Even though I'm aware that some ho3's really stick to their own rules "money, health") Any experiences?[/QUOTE]Of course.

I've had any number of providers actually tell me "you look clean", like they have cybernetic eyes enhanced with scanning electron microscopy and a suite of millimeter wave tools, allowing them to build a microbial and fitness profile on sight. Amazing.

But it's like anything: humans are primarily visual, with all the biases that go with that. Any one of us would more readily slide raw into some tattoo-free, tennis dress wearing, blonde Buckhead housewife than we would a tatted and pierced, skinny, purple haired chick we found hanging out in Little Five Points, even though there's no actual diagnostic reason to do so. Ditto, for the providers, for a clean cut guy in business casual and Ferragamo loafers.

O.

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3472747]I am 57 white man with good grooming and dress. I am respectable and seem to fit a mold that a lot of providers seem to feel comfortable with. With that said I have had providers texst me nothing without cover and 5 minutes later walk in and get BBBJ and BBFS. I never inquire ahead of time but I seem to get bb more than 50% of the time. Sometimes it is at an up sale but usually very minimal. I feel like it is my profile that makes that happen. I like it cause covers cause me severe shrinkage at my older age if you know what I mean. Even though this is not scientific at all I will not bb with a provider if I feel there is reason for concern. I just hug and kiss and maybe a blowjob. Just an old mans view of things. Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]I am a 51 yo clean cut white male and I do believe most providers will go on your looks. And I find myself doing the same. If I see a girl and she's at a low cost motel and tatted up and below average hygiene I'll ask for everything covered. When I lived in fl. I found a hot busty blonde I just couldn't get enough of. I was going once a month and paying $200 for full service after a while she said if I came to see her more she would take 100. So I'm hitting it every week. One day she's out of covers we have been giving each other bare oral for a while. She said I could go bare. It was great. No regrets.

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3472678]After reading a few reports -experiences, one question comes to my mind.

Do any of you guys think you have gotten away with getting the benefit of bare or gotten rejected for bare based on your look? (Even though I'm aware that some ho3's really stick to their own rules "money, health") Any experiences?[/QUOTE]As Oz and the other monger were implying, first impressions count. If a guy is well-groomed and acts nice, it goes a long way. Looking neat and clean implies that you are clean although you could be a closet leper. MOST providers prefer white, middle-aged, educated guys who don't look like slobs. All others are accepted somewhere below that standard.

And, this doesn't mean that providers prefer middle-aged white guys because they're easy pickings. Some will, of course, especially those with handlers. Most just like the fact that older, educated types are less of a threat. Which would you rather deal with, a poodle or a rabid she-wolf?

Anyone know anything about this girl? I'm interested, but I always get a little nervous when their ad is this loud. Whatever happen to "Money for time spent only" and all that shit?

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/freaky-blonde-sugar/71662393[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ichigo1978;3473022]Anyone know anything about this girl? I'm interested, but I always get a little nervous when their ad is this loud. Whatever happen to "Money for time spent only" and all that shit?

[URL]http://atlanta.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/freaky-blonde-sugar/71662393[/URL][/QUOTE]Didn't we establish that she was working with Incle LEO?. Even if not, by virtue of the text of her ad, she's asking for trouble and putting all who see her at risk of disease or arrest or both. Her ad spells trouble, it is probably best to stay away.

Thanks fellas for replying / feed back / sharing your experiences! I got some work to do, I took notes!

[QUOTE=AlinSrq;3472949]I am a 51 yo clean cut white male and I do believe most providers will go on your looks. And I find myself doing the same. If I see a girl and she's at a low cost motel and tatted up and below average hygiene I'll ask for everything covered. When I lived in fl. I found a hot busty blonde I just couldn't get enough of. I was going once a month and paying $200 for full service after a while she said if I came to see her more she would take 100. So I'm hitting it every week. One day she's out of covers we have been giving each other bare oral for a while. She said I could go bare. It was great. No regrets.[/QUOTE]Its not a race thing at all. Most chics that post No Aa, or No Aa under a certain age are looking for old guys to rip off. They are less likely to do anythinh foolish. I have banged several white providers state to state that said No Aa. Them heifers love some black weiner, and have been the best providers I've seen. A clean cut appearance and the way you talk can go a long way.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;3472959]As Oz and the other monger were implying, first impressions count. If a guy is well-groomed and acts nice, it goes a long way. Looking neat and clean implies that you are clean although you could be a closet leper. MOST providers prefer white, middle-aged, educated guys who don't look like slobs. All others are accepted somewhere below that standard.

And, this doesn't mean that providers prefer middle-aged white guys because they're easy pickings. Some will, of course, especially those with handlers. Most just like the fact that older, educated types are less of a threat. Which would you rather deal with, a poodle or a rabid she-wolf?[/QUOTE]Agreed!! They just want the easy cash with no problems, regardless of how the session went. I understand that certain types are less aggressive than others and are more willing to take a "loss" and move on.

I'm a good example of that. I'm a young hotheaded dude at times, when providers try to scam me I will get aggressive. I just won't take whatever bs they give me. I paid my chips, now give the full service offered with no tricks / games.

I know as I get older my testosterone levels will drop, and I will become less aggressive. I will also become more mature and learn how to take a loss. The older established guy goes home to his safe mansion, while the provider is still selling kitty Kat to strangers / regulars. At the end of the day, the old man technically wins. Even if he is a simp for having no backbone. It just isn't worth the risk these days.

I am deeply concerned about a provider who has ben discussed numerous times on this Board. She is extremely depressed. Has lost a lot of weight, seems oblivious to everything, and apparently has suffered a catastrophic event (the particulars about, I do not know}. What I do know is that she recently had a child, the child apparently is being watched by her mother, she is absolutely broke, and while a friend of mine was visiting her, the hotel manager barged into her room and a big scene followed. My friend was lucky not to have been arrested. The provider texted my friend for help on several occasions and he wound up giving her gifts of cash without any expectation of service (nor was any offered) . She even asked for more cash claiming that she was robbed. She also has greatly curtailed her advertising. Something is going on and it isn't good. I advised her to get some help and straighten out her act. I also advised her to quit the business and get a legitimate job so that she could provide for her child. Apparently, my advice was ignored and she continues to slide downhill. I have no desire to see her as she looks terrible, no desire to contact her as she undoubtedly will ask me for money as she asked my friend. Yet, I am concerned and I believe her to be at a tipping point. What should I do? Should I move on and just chalk it up to this life style or should I find some way to intervene, although whatever she's going through truly is not my business nor do I want to make it my business. I suspect that this is all drug related (although she swears that she doesn't do drugs) and just want her to get some help before it is too late.

[QUOTE=Oriema2002;3473916]I am deeply concerned about a provider who has ben discussed numerous times on this Board. She is extremely depressed. Has lost a lot of weight, seems oblivious to everything, and apparently has suffered a catastrophic event (the particulars about, I do not know}. What I do know is that she recently had a child, the child apparently is being watched by her mother, she is absolutely broke, and while a friend of mine was visiting her, the hotel manager barged into her room and a big scene followed. My friend was lucky not to have been arrested. The provider texted my friend for help on several occasions and he wound up giving her gifts of cash without any expectation of service (nor was any offered) . She even asked for more cash claiming that she was robbed. She also has greatly curtailed her advertising. Something is going on and it isn't good. I advised her to get some help and straighten out her act. I also advised her to quit the business and get a legitimate job so that she could provide for her child. Apparently, my advice was ignored and she continues to slide downhill. I have no desire to see her as she looks terrible, no desire to contact her as she undoubtedly will ask me for money as she asked my friend. Yet, I am concerned and I believe her to be at a tipping point. What should I do? Should I move on and just chalk it up to this life style or should I find some way to intervene, although whatever she's going through truly is not my business nor do I want to make it my business. I suspect that this is all drug related (although she swears that she doesn't do drugs) and just want her to get some help before it is too late.[/QUOTE]This is all very noble of you but if I were you I would not be a Captain Save A Hoe enabler here. It will only bring you down. You can only do so much for some of these people but unfortunately for some of them their downward spirals are inevitable considering their lifestyles and the choices they made along the way.

[QUOTE=Oriema2002;3473916]I am deeply concerned about a provider who has ben discussed numerous times on this Board. She is extremely depressed. Has lost a lot of weight, seems oblivious to everything, and apparently has suffered a catastrophic event (the particulars about, I do not know}. What I do know is that she recently had a child, the child apparently is being watched by her mother, she is absolutely broke, and while a friend of mine was visiting her, the hotel manager barged into her room and a big scene followed. My friend was lucky not to have been arrested. The provider texted my friend for help on several occasions and he wound up giving her gifts of cash without any expectation of service (nor was any offered) . She even asked for more cash claiming that she was robbed. She also has greatly curtailed her advertising. Something is going on and it isn't good. I advised her to get some help and straighten out her act. I also advised her to quit the business and get a legitimate job so that she could provide for her child. Apparently, my advice was ignored and she continues to slide downhill. I have no desire to see her as she looks terrible, no desire to contact her as she undoubtedly will ask me for money as she asked my friend. Yet, I am concerned and I believe her to be at a tipping point. What should I do? Should I move on and just chalk it up to this life style or should I find some way to intervene, although whatever she's going through truly is not my business nor do I want to make it my business. I suspect that this is all drug related (although she swears that she doesn't do drugs) and just want her to get some help before it is too late.[/QUOTE]Oriema2002,

This will sound harsh, but as an old guy (56) I have found a person cannot be saved. They have to want to be saved and then they will find the numerous opportunities to be saved. I know it is harsh, but you cannot save people in general, and ho's in particular. Women that partake in this hobby have typically made a number of poor decisions that have landed them in this line of work. Very Very few fall into the "Pretty Woman", "***** with a big heart" catagory. They will continue to make the poor life decisions as long as some monger (like me and you) will give them money to allow them to keep making the poor decisions. Relaize that once they cannot get money from you, the relationship is OVER. I learned over the years that you can lead a horse to water but you damn sure can't make it drink.

Summary, harden your heart and move on. You cannot help this situation.

Still Lost,

Lostbear40.

[QUOTE=Oriema2002;3473916]I am deeply concerned about a provider who has ben discussed numerous times on this Board. She is extremely depressed. Has lost a lot of weight, seems oblivious to everything, and apparently has suffered a catastrophic event (the particulars about, I do not know}. What I do know is that she recently had a child, the child apparently is being watched by her mother, she is absolutely broke, and while a friend of mine was visiting her, the hotel manager barged into her room and a big scene followed. My friend was lucky not to have been arrested. The provider texted my friend for help on several occasions and he wound up giving her gifts of cash without any expectation of service (nor was any offered) . She even asked for more cash claiming that she was robbed. She also has greatly curtailed her advertising. Something is going on and it isn't good. I advised her to get some help and straighten out her act. I also advised her to quit the business and get a legitimate job so that she could provide for her child. Apparently, my advice was ignored and she continues to slide downhill. I have no desire to see her as she looks terrible, no desire to contact her as she undoubtedly will ask me for money as she asked my friend. Yet, I am concerned and I believe her to be at a tipping point. What should I do? Should I move on and just chalk it up to this life style or should I find some way to intervene, although whatever she's going through truly is not my business nor do I want to make it my business. I suspect that this is all drug related (although she swears that she doesn't do drugs) and just want her to get some help before it is too late.[/QUOTE]And it is not fun at all. I lost my ATF provider back in early December and I wouldn't wish that feeling on anyone. If I were to offer you advice, I would just tell her how you feel, offer support in any way you wish (not necessarily talking $). I wouldn't want you to deal with the what if, wish I would have. In the aftermath.

Not trying to sound sappy or simpish, but we're all humans here with feelings and emotions. And sometimes we can actually enjoy the company of these ladies. And as I said, I wouldn't wish those feelings on my worst enemy.

Best of Luck to you and wish her well!

[QUOTE=Oriema2002;3473916]I am deeply concerned about a provider who has ben discussed numerous times on this Board. She is extremely depressed. Has lost a lot of weight, seems oblivious to everything, and apparently has suffered a catastrophic event (the particulars about, I do not know}. What I do know is that she recently had a child, the child apparently is being watched by her mother, she is absolutely broke, and while a friend of mine was visiting her, the hotel manager barged into her room and a big scene followed. My friend was lucky not to have been arrested. The provider texted my friend for help on several occasions and he wound up giving her gifts of cash without any expectation of service (nor was any offered) . She even asked for more cash claiming that she was robbed. She also has greatly curtailed her advertising. Something is going on and it isn't good. I advised her to get some help and straighten out her act. I also advised her to quit the business and get a legitimate job so that she could provide for her child. Apparently, my advice was ignored and she continues to slide downhill. I have no desire to see her as she looks terrible, no desire to contact her as she undoubtedly will ask me for money as she asked my friend. Yet, I am concerned and I believe her to be at a tipping point. What should I do? Should I move on and just chalk it up to this life style or should I find some way to intervene, although whatever she's going through truly is not my business nor do I want to make it my business. I suspect that this is all drug related (although she swears that she doesn't do drugs) and just want her to get some help before it is too late.[/QUOTE]I'd cut her off immediately, block her number, the works; there is zero upside to getting involved in such a mess. And yes, 99% of this is drugs which means they have to just hit rock bottom before anyone can do anything for them, and that's not someplace you need to be.

I hate to sound extremely grim, but in the 25 years I've hobbied, I can count, literally, a stack of bodies: I can think of at least twenty girls I used to fuck who eventually OD'd, were murdered, or committed suicide (pretty much those three modes). The girls you meet in the hobby are WAYYY off the edge; some may look like "the girl next door", but they are anything but, ESPECIALLY the BBFS girls (who are fucking nuts, admit it, right?) You really don't want to get involved in their personal lives in any way, shape, of form, because therein lay oblivion and madness.

(I actually make a policy of ALWAYS looking for the next fuck toy, no matter how good my current one is, and when I find her, I cut the other one off. It's important never to get too close to these girls, and keeping things moving and seeking variety is a good way to manage that process. No ATFs!).

O.

[QUOTE=Oriema2002;3473916]I am deeply concerned about a provider who has ben discussed numerous times on this Board. She is extremely depressed. Has lost a lot of weight, seems oblivious to everything, and apparently has suffered a catastrophic event (the particulars about, I do not know}. What I do know is that she recently had a child, the child apparently is being watched by her mother, she is absolutely broke, and while a friend of mine was visiting her, the hotel manager barged into her room and a big scene followed. My friend was lucky not to have been arrested. The provider texted my friend for help on several occasions and he wound up giving her gifts of cash without any expectation of service (nor was any offered) . She even asked for more cash claiming that she was robbed. She also has greatly curtailed her advertising. Something is going on and it isn't good. I advised her to get some help and straighten out her act. I also advised her to quit the business and get a legitimate job so that she could provide for her child. Apparently, my advice was ignored and she continues to slide downhill. I have no desire to see her as she looks terrible, no desire to contact her as she undoubtedly will ask me for money as she asked my friend. Yet, I am concerned and I believe her to be at a tipping point. What should I do? Should I move on and just chalk it up to this life style or should I find some way to intervene, although whatever she's going through truly is not my business nor do I want to make it my business. I suspect that this is all drug related (although she swears that she doesn't do drugs) and just want her to get some help before it is too late.[/QUOTE]As others have commented, I would bail. Cut her off. She can only bring you problems now. These girls are "damaged goods" on a good day, anyway. Despite some of them being hot looking, they have nothing else going on. These are the ones who banged the football players in high school to be popular, made terrible grades, and were not able to luck into a job where banging the boss got them ahead.

I treat them with respect, after all, they don't deserve to be treated badly. I also have learned to keep distance, and disappear if they get too needy.