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[QUOTE=Dctator1;3410840]Hahaha, just proves my point, most of these girls are all lying about something. Best not to get to emotionally involved with someone off CL or SA, not that it can't happen, but they will always be hiding something. That said if she wants to date you with no allowance, take it. No reason to pass up free good times with an attractive lady. Just be careful about the husband and don't stop seeing other girls no matter what she says.

Good luck and keep us up to date.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty much taking your advice. I asked her to tell me the truth if she wants to give up the SB life and she said no she needs the cash to pay bills cause her hubby won't put his full pay check in the bank cause he thinks she will blow the money. Sounds like BS to me. What married man won't take care of the family bills? Guess it's possible. She did say she is planning on divorcing him and won't do him if I say but still wants to do guys from SA. So I told her today I won't date her like she wants. And I won't give her any cash. But if she really wants my D that much I will do her. She said OK. LOL so it's on tomorrow again.

I was going to meet the girl this morning. She asked me how long I wanted to spend with her and I said I can do 2 to 3.5 hours. She said she wanted to spend lots of time with me. Remember, she is now down for no allowance because she is totally into me. I was planning on 3.5 hours. I arrived and said so 3.5 hours and she said no, 2. I said oh you are busy now, what happened? She said she has to meet a Sd after me. I was kind of pissed but I agreed to let her still do the SB thing. Anyone dated someone that does these types of things for $$?

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[QUOTE=Leiterf;3413686]I was going to meet the girl this morning. She asked me how long I wanted to spend with her and I said I can do 2 to 3.5 hours. She said she wanted to spend lots of time with me. Remember, she is now down for no allowance because she is totally into me. I was planning on 3.5 hours. I arrived and said so 3.5 hours and she said no, 2. I said oh you are busy now, what happened? She said she has to meet a Sd after me. I was kind of pissed but I agreed to let her still do the SB thing. Anyone dated someone that does these types of things for $$?[/QUOTE]Are you looking for a girlfriend right now? She is still married and who knows when she will get a divorce. My advice is the ball is in your court. You can enjoy a no allowance situation and let her meet others (which I would do and I would not get emotional involved with her) or you can end it. Anyway you should not get emotionally evolved with someone you just met off Craigslist. Maybe after a few months or more, but not right away. Just the way you met should be a red flag as to not trust her. You can enjoy some free girlfriend type fun anytime you want and be free to keep seeing other potientials. It's the perfect situation. Even if she says she won't see any mor sd's, there is a good chance in the future she will. Just enjoy the sex for free while you have it. You never know how long it will last. Keep us updated.

Hey guys,

Can any of you tell me how SA filters emails and links?

I don't want to put my real photos onto SA. What I would like to do instead is put my photos onto a dropbox folder and send the SB the drop box link.

I think SA is filtering the link though because the SB say they can't click on it. Otherwise I would like to send the SB my email. Do you know if SA filters the emails? If I say contact me at JohnDoe at [URL]yahoo.com[/URL] will this get to the SB's?

The reason I am doing it this way is that sometimes I don't want to send the SB my real photos. If it is someone I am not really interested in, I will send them a dummy photo to test lines and price points.

SultrySaneSexyFit, Newport Beach.

Julianna Annalisa, Long Beach.

I have 'her' #s too.

[QUOTE=SeaTownGuy;3413876]Looking for some LA for Seattle, Portland or Vancouver trades. Send me a PM.[/QUOTE]For everyone's benefit, SA isn't really the same as BP, and if you don't want it to suffer the same fate as BP, I'd advise against this practice. Keeping escorts off of SA is the only way to do this, and the more we treat SBs like they are escorts the more trouble we will have. A guy who passes around a girl to other guys is going to get shit from the SB, and I'd especially avoid this if I have a SO. This is a public board, the girls can figure out it's here and read it as well as anyone. We put info on these boards that could enable us to be identified without too much trouble.

Again, as someone who is concerned about my discretion, I wouldn't want a SB passing my info on to other girls, and I think the Golden Rule applies.

[QUOTE=ChiCity;3414280]Hey guys,

Can any of you tell me how SA filters emails and links?

I don't want to put my real photos onto SA. What I would like to do instead is put my photos onto a dropbox folder and send the SB the drop box link.

I think SA is filtering the link though because the SB say they can't click on it. Otherwise I would like to send the SB my email. Do you know if SA filters the emails? If I say contact me at JohnDoe at [URL]yahoo.com[/URL] will this get to the SB's?

The reason I am doing it this way is that sometimes I don't want to send the SB my real photos. If it is someone I am not really interested in, I will send them a dummy photo to test lines and price points.[/QUOTE]The best idea is to get off SA as quickly as possible so you can send whatever the hell you want. To text or email or snapchat. I can only take 1 month paid membership at a time, I get too obsessed w / contacting POTs, and if I can get them to message me off the site, they last past the membership.

BTW, Snapchat is a great app to have. I have used it to message w / girls who had phone problems (unpaid bills, lost etc. ,) and were using iPads, and also if you let it check your contacts, it can give you a profile name from SC that the girls may be using on other social media. You can check her out that way, get her real name, etc.

A few days ago I was talking to a girl on sa and from her behavior it seemed like she might be a pro. I was thinking to see her just for some head on my way home from work. I text her when I'm near my home, since she's local, but she didn't reply. Earlier she mentioned she was with family. So while sitting in a parking lot I jump in sa and browse for girls near me that were love. See a 19 yr old local girl. I send her a straight forward message asking to meet up right now. Surprisingly she agrees. I head down to UCR and pick her up as she was at the library studying. We chill in my car and she gives me head for a nominal fee. She was really nervous. Not the best BJ ever, but a very interesting experience.

[QUOTE=Dctator1;3414007]Are you looking for a girlfriend right now? She is still married and who knows when she will get a GFdivorce. My advice is the ball is in your court. You can enjoy a no allowance situation and let her meet others (which I would do and I would not getv emotional involved with her) or you can end it. Anyway you should not get emotionally evolved with someone you just met off Craigslistt. Maybe after a few months or vibd, but not right away. Just the way you met should be a red flag as to not trust her. You can enjoy some free girlfriend type fun anytime you want and be free to keep seeing other potientials. It's the perfect situation. Even if she says she won't see any mor sd's, there is a good chance in the future she will. Just enjoy the sex for free while you have it. You never know how long it will last. Keep us updated.[/QUOTE]I wasn't looking for a GF. I didn't meet her on CL, I met her on SA. She said she lied about being married because she really like my appearance and how I talked to her. I'm. I'm not emotionally involved but I do like her as a person. Now that I'm banging her at no charge it's just hard to know she's going to be doing others for cash. I asked her what it is that she wants from me and she said all of me. But she knows it's impossible because she's married and still a SB. But said she wants to date me but knows I won't. Cause I told her I can't have a GF that is married and doing guys for cash.

These SB women do not see what they do as a form of prostitution. I do. Am I wrong? What do you think?

[QUOTE=Leiterf;3415443]I wasn't looking for a GF. I didn't meet her on CL, I met her on SA. She said she lied about being married because she really like my appearance and how I talked to her. I'm. I'm not emotionally involved but I do like her as a person. Now that I'm banging her at no charge it's just hard to know she's going to be doing others for cash. I asked her what it is that she wants from me and she said all of me. But she knows it's impossible because she's married and still a SB. But said she wants to date me but knows I won't. Cause I told her I can't have a GF that is married and doing guys for cash.

These SB women do not see what they do as a form of prostitution. I do. Am I wrong? What do you think?[/QUOTE]I can't even. Wow. You hit the jackpot man, stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. You met her on SA, don't expect her to change her life after a couple hours with you. She needs $$. She has a deadbeat husband (believe it or not, there are tons of guys who don't take care of their wives", and unless you're going to take care of her $$ issues by yourself, it's unfair to expect her to suddenly be ok being broke again. Good job setting the tone to that of her chasing you, but you sound like you're definitely looking for something emotional. Maybe a girl you met off SA isn't the best candidate for that. If you're not, you just bagged yourself a cutie who can't become too attached, but still wants to be your girl when you're alone. Society has made it hard for girls to admit they just want to hookup, because they don't like coming off like a **** even though they're doing **** shit LOL. Enjoy the ride for now man. Please. Lot of us would be ecstatic to be in your shoes.

[QUOTE=E1775;3416012]I can't even. Wow. You hit the jackpot man, stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. You met her on SA, don't expect her to change her life after a couple hours with you. She needs $$. She has a deadbeat husband (believe it or not, there are tons of guys who don't take care of their wives", and unless you're going to take care of her $$ issues by yourself, it's unfair to expect her to suddenly be ok being broke again. Good job setting the tone to that of her chasing you, but you sound like you're definitely looking for something emotional. Maybe a girl you met off SA isn't the best candidate for that. If you're not, you just bagged yourself a cutie who can't become too attached, but still wants to be your girl when you're alone. Society has made it hard for girls to admit they just want to hookup, because they don't like coming off like a **** even though they're doing **** shit LOL. Enjoy the ride for now man. Please. Lot of us would be ecstatic to be in your shoes.[/QUOTE]This!

You scored a cutie that's wants to have some fun with you sans sugar. Enjoy it while you can, like he said unless you're willing to lay down the financial help to meet her needs to keep her exclusive, have a blast. Many blasts! LOL!

[QUOTE=ChiCity;3414280]Hey guys,

Can any of you tell me how SA filters emails and links?

I don't want to put my real photos onto SA. What I would like to do instead is put my photos onto a dropbox folder and send the SB the drop box link.

I think SA is filtering the link though because the SB say they can't click on it. Otherwise I would like to send the SB my email. Do you know if SA filters the emails? If I say contact me at JohnDoe at [URL]yahoo.com[/URL] will this get to the SB's?

The reason I am doing it this way is that sometimes I don't want to send the SB my real photos. If it is someone I am not really interested in, I will send them a dummy photo to test lines and price points.[/QUOTE]You should have no problem sending your email address kik, snapchat ID to anyone as long as your a paying member. Pic wise put them on the site under hidden and only give access to those you want to. If you don't want to do that then get them to text or any of the number of ways to communicate.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3416183]You should have no problem sending your email address kik, snapchat ID to anyone as long as your a paying member. Pic wise put them on the site under hidden and only give access to those you want to. If you don't want to do that then get them to text or any of the number of ways to communicate.[/QUOTE]If I was him. I would just upload a picture and make it private. I use to do the text and email messages with sending pictures. But I started to talk to women, who wasn't comfortable with that. Now I rather just show the women my private picture right away. And if they are interested we move ahead and it's easier to get the phone number. I prefer not to waste time with countless messages before they feel comfortable. It's too many women on the site to do that with. I would show them the private picture and move on quickly. If they are not interested.

My FWB who started out as my SB would like to try a 3 some with me and one lucky guy. If we find the right candidate it's on. Must meet all requirements that we set. If we don't find the right one then we just won't do it. Most likely just a one time thing. But you never know.

Qualifications / Rules:

1) Ethnicity- white.

2) Age. Late 40's and up.

3) You must wear a cover, no exceptions.

4) What you are not allowed to do. No kissing, no hickeys. No fisting.

5) Must provide a one time allowance for her. Negotiable.

About her: Early 30's, Asian, 4'11 98 lbs, b cup. Great in bed. Will do BBBJ, all positions, is willing to do Double P.

I can provide a pic if you meet the above.

Will discuss the details if you message me.

[QUOTE=TheHuntsman;3415342]A few days ago I was talking to a girl on sa and from her behavior it seemed like she might be a pro. I was thinking to see her just for some head on my way home from work. I text her when I'm near my home, since she's local, but she didn't reply. Earlier she mentioned she was with family. So while sitting in a parking lot I jump in sa and browse for girls near me that were love. See a 19 yr old local girl. I send her a straight forward message asking to meet up right now. Surprisingly she agrees. I head down to UCR and pick her up as she was at the library studying. We chill in my car and she gives me head for a nominal fee. She was really nervous. Not the best BJ ever, but a very interesting experience.[/QUOTE]Hey Huntsman, does the direct "lets meet now" approach work on SA. I thought SA was more for cultivating a SB over a period of time, not for the quick same day service. Is there something you look for in their profile? I am about to join SA to find a SB, but would love to also use it for a quick same day meet ups if I can. CL is almost impossible now for anything.

Thanks for any advice you have.

[QUOTE=Dctator1;3417536]Hey Huntsman, does the direct "lets meet now" approach work on SA. I thought SA was more for cultivating a SB over a period of time, not for the quick same day service. Is there something you look for in their profile? I am about to join SA to find a SB, but would love to also use it for a quick same day meet ups if I can. CL is almost impossible now for anything.

Thanks for any advice you have.[/QUOTE]You can find anything from the pro to the everyday girl on sa. There is alot of different definitions for a sb so you can find plenty of the utr / pro providing car services or quick meeting s the same as BP / CL. Lots of yhese girls showing up on sa and some guy s pay more for thue title sb.

[QUOTE=Falar;3416698]If I was him. I would just upload a picture and make it private. I use to do the text and email messages with sending pictures. But I started to talk to women, who wasn't comfortable with that. Now I rather just show the women my private picture right away. And if they are interested we move ahead and it's easier to get the phone number. I prefer not to waste time with countless messages before they feel comfortable. It's too many women on the site to do that with. I would show them the private picture and move on quickly. If they are not interested.[/QUOTE]I do basically the same.

[QUOTE=Dctator1;3417536]Hey Huntsman, does the direct "lets meet now" approach work on SA. I thought SA was more for cultivating a SB over a period of time, not for the quick same day service. Is there something you look for in their profile? I am about to join SA to find a SB, but would love to also use it for a quick same day meet ups if I can. CL is almost impossible now for anything.

Thanks for any advice you have.[/QUOTE]You get both types of girls. But don't confuse a desperate non-pro with a utr or pro just because she wants to meet asap. Over time you will learn how to separate them out.

That was my first time trying that. Usually I don't attempt something like that as both parties like to build some sort of trust. When she got out of my car I saw pair of scissors on the passenger seat. I asked her and she said she brought them because she hadn't done something like that before and wasn't sure if I was dangerous.

[QUOTE=Jdb1911;3410469]I was definitely disappointed with her body and she def looks better in pics. Her BBJ was lots of spitting and no hands. I would never see her again though. I busted 2 one from BBJ LOL.

She's weird though after the bbj she went into her living room to play with her rabbits. Like literally left me in her bedroom alone for 10 minutes. So I went through her stuff. She's clean, had some paperwork from some local free clinic and birth control pills on her bed.[/QUOTE]Post or pm her profile if you feel like sending her another customer. Ha.

I set up ameeting with a baby tomorrow. This will be my first baby. The problem is that neither of us can host and I do not know where to find a no tell motel. Looking for one some where in between beverly hills and ktown. I will apreciate any suggestions. I like to thank the HollywoodGuy for his guidelines.

[QUOTE=Theengine;3417886]I set up ameeting with a baby tomorrow. This will be my first baby. The problem is that neither of us can host and I do not know where to find a no tell motel. Looking for one some where in between beverly hills and ktown. I will apreciate any suggestions. I like to thank the HollywoodGuy for his guidelines.[/QUOTE]Sea Way Motel, 5961 Venice Blvd, Los Angeles.

It's actually nice. I was shocked. They don't offer hourly rates all the time. It's 40 for the hour plus a 5 dollar remote deposit.

Good luck.

I have been on and off SA for a couple years. Have 2 SBs that I can see when I want, they don't want to go out, just stay in bed and play.

I got back on SA recently to see what was out there again. I live in the Albany NY area. I was contacted by about 25 women in a week, and set up coffee M&Gs with a couple. I have used a lot of the tips on this board and on the Richmond board to make what I want and can offer very clear. But, recently, I find that some of the POTS, even after the discussion about what I can offer (and they say they understand). Change their mind after either a M&G or a few emails. This includes:

-AA girl who asked me to buy her a car after we had coffee (I'm looking for a 1981 YUGO for her now LOL). Talk about her pic not resembling her in real life. YIKES.

-AA girl who basically invited me over to have sex before we meet (actually I have had 2 of these in the past, they actually were regular girls with their own place looking for sex immediately). And then basically begged me to come over (student needing the $).

-Latina who cursed me cause I said I don't pay for M&G. Just my policy as I was burned in the past by doing this (no money, no honey).

-Latina who wanted to meet for coffee and then at the last minute said "can I bring a friend". Of course the answer was no (cause it was a man friend).

Also had these experiences:

-Contacted by a couple blond / brunette either play together or separately. This intrigues me but I suspect its outside my budget.

-Recently divorced women in their 40's. Meeting one next week who has kept in touch. May be too classy for me hahaha.

So, just asking the board. So you get these girls who "swing for the fences", ask for something totally out of your budget even after you tell them what you can do for gifts and they appear to understand.

In any event, ended up with an AA who warned me that she was 'very very dark" (she said some guys contact her on SA and tell her they would never be interested in a girl as dark as she is. What jerks). HG might like her, not a spinner but nice shape, beautiful color and thick lips. Anyway, took her to hotel today and WOW, she hadn't had sex for awhile and was trying to make up for this. Curiously for a 26 year old, had to give her some "education" but my knees were weak after we finished round 2.

GG.

[QUOTE=TheEngine;3417886]I set up ameeting with a baby tomorrow. This will be my first baby. The problem is that neither of us can host and I do not know where to find a no tell motel. Looking for one some where in between beverly hills and ktown. I will apreciate any suggestions. I like to thank the HollywoodGuy for his guidelines.[/QUOTE]Lots of great advice in the No-tell section of this forum. Check there if you have time and good luck tomorrow. Let us know how it goes.

Fullerton, Chino Hills, Corona, Huntington Beach, Irvine and Anaheim. Mostly all Latinas in these areas. But OMG so many nice ones. Good luck to anyone that has the ability to hit those areas.

So another bbw randomly hmu last night and I saw her today. I really needed to see someone today and since she was making it so easy, I said "come on down". Uber is running an awesome special right now. Any ride for 6.99 or a pool for 3.99. That's insane. Good for 20 rides. It should save me about $$, at least. In this girls case I only saved 14 dollars total as she was fairly close by.

Anyway we wasted no time in getting right to it. As I had no desire to bone her, we just did a lot of playing around but it got pretty hot and nasty. I did get to fist her after multiple tries, slowly stretching that sophomore pinay pussy as she screamed in ecstacy. lol.

This UTR did her required hour for a $ and left. A perfect mid-day break after an 8 hour work day.

Might see this one (pictured) over the weekend (a girl I dated a few times last year). Got a 2 day stay starting today from a different girl I met 8 months ago on SA. Dated her 3 times and then she said she couldn't see me anymore due to her BF. I told her when that ends, call me. She did.

I think I have another one hooked from SB. 29 Latina / Apache in OC with a really nice rack. Afte tats which I'm not into but she's sexy as hell. Wants 3 bills but I talked her into BB. And has a place we can play. We might go the first round Saturday. I will report back with details. And tomorrow I have a 4 hour session with the SB that I don't have to pay.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3419650]Might see this one (pictured) over the weekend (a girl I dated a few times last year). Got a 2 day stay starting today from a different girl I met 8 months ago on SA. Dated her 3 times and then she said she couldn't see me anymore due to her BF. I told her when that ends, call me. She did.[/QUOTE]The words I love to hear. My BF never did that ! (and few other things as well). But of course he was only her first and same age. (what do they know). lol

Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.

[QUOTE=Leiterf;3420190]I think I have another one hooked from SB. 29 Latina / Apache in OC with a really nice rack. Afte tats which I'm not into but she's sexy as hell. Wants 3 bills but I talked her into BB. And has a place we can play. We might go the first round Saturday. I will report back with details. And tomorrow I have a 4 hour session with the SB that I don't have to pay.[/QUOTE]Saw the above 29 year old yesterday. She is a really nice sweet girl. Her Apt smelled like weed and she drinking wine at 11 am.

We had a nice conversation and then on to kissing, BBBJ, DATY, BBCG, BBMISH and a huge shit across the bow.

Some cuddling and TV watching and off I went.

[QUOTE=YellowBull;3422772]Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.[/QUOTE]You portray the dilemma accurately. IDK that there is a pat answer to this question. You are right, how you list this is going to affect negotiations. I have champagne taste and am not opposed to paying 2 K / mo for unlimited access to a 10's across the board SB, and I list my accurate #s. PM if you want to know what those are. I also tell them honestly that generating the untraceable cash as someone w / a SO is my big challenge.

Flipside: I just negotiated w / a 20 YO GND coed, it was clear to me she was there for the excitement, and summarized herself at the end of the M&G, said 'I like older guys, I like sex, and I like being told what to do', reflecting my thought that she was not primarily there for the cash. And we discussed nothing about sugar. She asked in later messages about what my past SBs got, and I said 1 K / mo. She was initially fine with that, 'whatever you want', however, we were supposed to go to the FC yesterday, I get a text the day before that she can't make it. I surmise, obviously, that she met someone else she is either more attracted to or offered more. Life's hard. Hmm, writing this made me think - I liked this girl, she was smart - perhaps I should go back to her and say 'I'm no fool, I get what transpired, if it is a matter of the sugar, make me a counter offer'.

All that being said, I"ve been in the bowl a year and certainly messaged with hundreds, and M&G with maybe 20-30. No one has ever brought up explicitly the income or net worth #s on my profile. Now, I also do not allow my profile to be searched for by POTs. That's a precaution I take b/c I have a SO. Every now and then I open it up and see what happens. It drives me crazy - women from all over the world (Phillipines, Europe, Africa) contact me, what time-wasters. It likely is the case they are searching based on the dollar figures on profiles.

[QUOTE=Leiterf;3423043]Saw the above 29 year old yesterday. She is a really nice sweet girl. Her Apt smelled like weed and she drinking wine at 11 am.

We had a nice conversation and then on to kissing, BBBJ, DATY, BBCG, BBMISH and a huge shit across the bow.

Some cuddling and TV watching and off I went.[/QUOTE]Its amazing how all that good sex can make you overlook a few little things

[QUOTE=YellowBull;3422772]Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.[/QUOTE]No girl really cares how much you are worth, only how much you are willing to spend. They have pretty much all experienced "the rich asshole" in one way or another in their life. Maybe they served one at their waitress job, or maybe it was a braggadocio SD, or whatever. I tell girls I am middle class. End of discussion (if they even ask).

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8ac47ebb-115b-45d9-9bce-337e0a1f44e1[/URL]

I usually do $500 for a first meet up. Some people that's asking too much. You can choose what we do, in not picky as long as I'm entertained with a cool convo I'm good (: so let me know if that works for you and we can talk more / meet up (:

[QUOTE=YellowBull;3422772]Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.[/QUOTE]Like HG said most don't care as long as you have what they agree to. Some do look at what you put down and if your trying to save a few dollars when their asking price shouldn't matter to you then you get the label of salt or splenda daddy. If your listing high then 300 and up seems reasonable to them.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3423711]Its amazing how all that good sex can make you overlook a few little things[/QUOTE]Yeah, I probably won't repeat.

I Just don't think this is a real photo. And $500 in LA is just too much for 90% of the girls. $300, $400 works well for some uber hot girls.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3423823][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8ac47ebb-115b-45d9-9bce-337e0a1f44e1[/URL]

I usually do $500 for a first meet up. Some people that's asking too much. You can choose what we do, in not picky as long as I'm entertained with a cool convo I'm good (: so let me know if that works for you and we can talk more / meet up (:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3423712]No girl really cares how much you are worth, only how much you are willing to spend. They have pretty much all experienced "the rich asshole" in one way or another in their life. Maybe they served one at their waitress job, or maybe it was a braggadocio SD, or whatever. I tell girls I am middle class. End of discussion (if they even ask).[/QUOTE]Well, speak for yourself. I have been w / some girls who really are interested in the whole idea of having a daddy that takes interest in their lives and development, and it's not all about the $ I provided. When they are looking to me for advice, they want to know that I'm someone who has been successful so my opinions are good. How successful I am in life (indicated by annual income and net worth) is relevant to this point. You may scoff, but this does really work with me. I spend time talking with them about the decisions they are making in their lives, etc. Since you almost never see your girls more than once, this wouldn't be an amenity offered in your arrangements, but I and other people I know do this. They never had to ask my #s, because they are right there on my profile.