"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

This thread is one of the more intriguing ones on the USASG and potentially one of the more useful ones. I say "potentially" because for me, I know I cannot afford the $1000+ / month to play this game, unless I were single with no kids. LOL. I mean, I've got the income, but it's not very disposable.

Out of curiosity, I did a few Google searches like "review sugar daddy for me" (and similar) , and found mostly negative review of these sites, in contrast to the rather positive testimonials on this thread. Well, google it yourselves! One of the major complaints I found was that credit cards would get charged and it became very difficult to cancel the account. The site would give no answers to e-mails, phone calls, or other attempts to contact them to stop charging. (On the other hand, one could argue that if you cannot afford $35 / mo for the site then why try to be a sugar daddy?). I suppose one could try a temporary credit card with 3 months worth of money on it. I'm wondering what your experiences are?

Recently, I did sign up (without paying) for a SD site and browsed around. It looked promising and worth a $100 gamble. Funny thing is, although my profile didn't appear anywhere (since I did not pay), for several days I got a bunch of e-mails from alleged site members who were hot young women with attractive photographs inviting me to sign up. Funny !

[QUOTE=Snake27; 1360537]This thread is one of the more intriguing ones on the USASG and potentially one of the more useful ones. I say "potentially" because for me, I know I cannot afford the $1000+/month to play this game, unless I were single with no kids. LOL. I mean, I've got the income, but it's not very disposable.

Out of curiosity, I did a few Google searches like "review sugar daddy for me" (and similar) , and found mostly negative review of these sites, in contrast to the rather positive testimonials on this thread. Well, google it yourselves! One of the major complaints I found was that credit cards would get charged and it became very difficult to cancel the account. The site would give no answers to e-mails, phone calls, or other attempts to contact them to stop charging. (On the other hand, one could argue that if you cannot afford $35 / mo for the site then why try to be a sugar daddy?). I suppose one could try a temporary credit card with 3 months worth of money on it. I'm wondering what your experiences are?

Recently, I did sign up (without paying) for a SD site and browsed around. It looked promising and worth a $100 gamble. Funny thing is, although my profile didn't appear anywhere (since I did not pay) , for several days I got a bunch of e-mails from alleged site members who were hot young women with attractive photographs inviting me to sign up. Funny![/QUOTE]SD4Me is notoriously difficult to cancel as several forum contributors have noted. I will never use SD4Me again after the difficulty I had in cancelling. SA, on the other hand, is very easy to cancel. All of these sites have 'bait' profiles to lure you in. They have algorithms that scan profiles and come up with profiles that fit what they believe you want. SD4Me has more of that (in my opinion) , but all of them have it. That's not to say there aren't genuine profiles on them. There are. You just have to weed through them.

Happy MLK day guys. Maybe on our time off today we could frequent our fav SB I know I am going to!

Smoke.you are working things a little cheaper which I have done as well. The desperadas as I am won't to call them.the desperately poor. (or Nando type 1) are so much more drama. Try very hard to upgrade to independant girls.that is 1) they have a self sustaining job and 2) they have a license AND a vehicle. If Sugar is for special things and not sustainance you will have a happier less stressful hobby experience.

RE : cancelling SDforme. I cancelled a free 3 day trial 1 month ago and they didn't respond for 1 week, but.I did get an offer for a free two (2) months after paying for that unneeded 1st month. So they are getting a little better. The best way of dealing with them is to pay with a reloadable card.like Walmart VISA.

BP / CL .has very low quality girls.at least from my experience. I found one 21 yr old Nando 1 who was a good roll but was totally irresponsible and after cancelling on me twice I blew her off.

My SB continues to thrill me and unlike our friend Scott I am monogamous and loving it! She is always available, is totally self sufficient, and treats me like a King. I'm a lot happier than with my multifucking days. I know nothing lasts forever though but I'm going to ride this streak while the riding is good.

[QUOTE=Castlerae; 1360481]Well, after having the profile up on SA for a little over a week, I decided to pay up so I could respond to some interesting nibbles I'd gotten. Maybe three on the line right now, though one might get dropped due to distance. Guess it's time for me to see how well I can play this game, and time to rtff a bit more to see what hints I can pick up.

As the title says, let the games begin![/QUOTE]Castle,

If I can offer any insights / intel into babies that strike your fancy, let me know. I am in your general area.

Scott

[QUOTE=Hernando;1360756]My SB continues to thrill me and unlike our friend Scott I am monogamous and loving it! She is always available, is totally self sufficient, and treats me like a King. I'm a lot happier than with my multifucking days. I know nothing lasts forever though but I'm going to ride this streak while the riding is good.[/QUOTE]Nando,

Sadly, my quiet time ratio with my ATF has dropped off significantly. We still communicate almost every day, but recently our dates have been for lunch, and not for more important things. I don't know if this is a phase she is going through (hopefully) , or if the bloom is off the rose for her (hopefully not) , but our time may be coming to an end. I hope not, but am preparing for the worst. I may have sensed this coming but just not wanted to confront it head-on.

We shall see,

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1361032]Castle,

If I can offer any insights / intel into babies that strike your fancy, let me know. I am in your general area.

Scott[/QUOTE]I appreciate the mentoring offer, and might take you up on it if things develop a bit more. Right now, I've decided to rule one of the preliminary nibbles out (3+ hours ONE WAY to get to her location!) , and while I've contacted the rest, only one has gotten back to me. Right now, we're starting the dance of figuring out what she wants to give / what I want to get / how much it's all going to cost. Should be interesting. Will keep one and all apprized as things progress.

" Sadly, my quiet time ratio with my ATF has dropped off significantly-" Well Scotty, all things run their course I guess. I hope she has not lost interest but you seem to have moved on into other fine sounding pussies. It's good to get up on another horse when you fall off.

Is she the reason for the slow down on bedroom time? What reason does she give for it? And have you confronted her about it including the alternatives you will be (are) taking if she does not have / make time for you? My Baby was trolling the SD site and when I confronted her she totally backed off and made me confident that she was still into me (my money ). Things do change and my SB doesn't text me sweet nothings as much, but we do see each other more. My SB is always available when I want her. This tells me that I am still a priority in her life. The fact that your s is not so available might just be a real change in her schedule, but might be a lessening of need for intimacy. I feel like where there is a will.there's a way.

Good luck Brother.I feel your pain and hope for the best with her. I know she means a lot to you. Rein her back in!

[QUOTE=VAJimbo;1360259]Hotels can drive up the cost of playing with the UTR or SB but, there are some ways to help cut it some. Look around at the 2nd tire hotels like Best western, some of them have been redone and are good values and the rooms can be just as nice as the higher priced places. When you find a good place see if you can talk to the manager after you have 'stayed' there several times, they may work with you now that travel is down and rooms are setting empty. Think about having a lunch date and a dinner date on the same day, if you don't or can't make a bed give the cleaning crew $5 or$10 to clean it up real quick.[/QUOTE]Don't forget Hotwire, I'm a walking advertisement for them.

Examples:

Maryland Holiday Inn. $57 per night (Got 2 nights and hit 2 different SBs)

Maryland Candlewood Suites. $54.

Maryland Westin. $72.

New Jersery Sheraton.$89.

Maryland Hyatt Regency. $94 (This was less than 50% of published price)

Philadelphia Embassy Suites. $83 (Another great deal)

Gentlemen,

My ATF has been maintaining what I would call significant radio silence for well over a week now, and I'm afraid that this is the end. I have texted, called and left a voice mail, and sent an email, just like any infatuated 'tweener schoolgirl would, and so far nothing more meaningful than "thinking of you". For those of us keeping track, this week was to be our second overnight, and this one out of town to boot! I honestly don't know what to make of it.

If this is, indeed, The End, I now ask myself if I would have acted differently, and not put all my emotional eggs in this fabulous little basket? Truthfully, I don't think so. The times were magical, whether genuine or not, and I completely enjoyed every second of them. In a strange twist, the contemplation of The End has kind of put me off my feed, so I may not be posting of new babies being bedded in the near future, though God knows they are out there. If I go into mourning for a while, I hope my brothers will understand.

In the meantime, keep up the good work,

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1362855]Gentlemen,

My ATF has been maintaining what I would call significant radio silence for well over a week now, and I'm afraid that this is the end. I have texted, called and left a voice mail, and sent an email, just like any infatuated 'tweener schoolgirl would, and so far nothing more meaningful than "thinking of you". For those of us keeping track, this week was to be our second overnight, and this one out of town to boot! I honestly don't know what to make of it.

If this is, indeed, The End, I now ask myself if I would have acted differently, and not put all my emotional eggs in this fabulous little basket? Truthfully, I don't think so. The times were magical, whether genuine or not, and I completely enjoyed every second of them. In a strange twist, the contemplation of The End has kind of put me off my feed, so I may not be posting of new babies being bedded in the near future, though God knows they are out there. If I go into mourning for a while, I hope my brothers will understand.

In the meantime, keep up the good work,

Scott[/QUOTE]Maybe she's worried about the out of town, maybe she's busy who knows. Been thru this myself sometimes things cool down then heat up again

[QUOTE=Zman429;1362993]Maybe she's worried about the out of town, maybe she's busy who knows. Been thru this myself sometimes things cool down then heat up again[/QUOTE]She just popped back in my life last week and I have seen her twice. The sex is better than ever, she fucks me like she missed me more than I missed her. Never thought it was going to happen, I thought she was gone for good and then out of the blue a text and we were back at it. She might be gone tomorrow for all I know but I am in it to win it for now. Emotions are a real M*F*er but if we didn't have them would life really be worth living? Did I mention the sex is unbelievable, oh yeah I did, well that is primarily do to the old adage "Absence makes your dick extremely rigid!" or something like that.

LL

It is totally unacceptable IMHO for a SB to disappear without so much as a Kiss My AZZ, fare the well. This is a major sign of low class dirt ball Nando type 1 behavior. Lucky, I'm happy for you brother that your sex goddess "popped back in " to your life (and pelvis) , but just be aware that she can and will just as easily go again.

My 1st SB several years ago did that to me. She never was a good communicator anyway and it frustrated me no end, but just cut off all comm and went for a year. Then she popped back up several months ago wanting money. She is actually blackmailing me. I'm like." WTF? You dump me and now you want me to bail you out?". I'm done with her. So my point here is to avoid these irresponsible inconsiderate wenches. If you have a relationship with them, then they owe you to tell you when they are moving on. Also realize that they can compromise you in a New York minute, so stick with higher quality self sufficient girls.

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1363474]It is totally unacceptable IMHO for a SB to disappear without so much as a Kiss My AZZ, fare the well. This is a major sign of low class dirt ball Nando type 1 behavior. Lucky, I'm happy for you brother that your sex goddess "popped back in " to your life (and pelvis) , but just be aware that she can and will just as easily go again.

My 1st SB several years ago did that to me. She never was a good communicator anyway and it frustrated me no end, but just cut off all comm and went for a year. Then she popped back up several months ago wanting money. She is actually blackmailing me. I'm like." WTF? You dump me and now you want me to bail you out?". I'm done with her. So my point here is to avoid these irresponsible inconsiderate wenches. If you have a relationship with them, then they owe you to tell you when they are moving on. Also realize that they can compromise you in a New York minute, so stick with higher quality self sufficient girls.[/QUOTE]Nando,

I very much appreciate your point of view on this topic. I am guilty (as I am sure many are) of simply forgetting past behavior when my dick is happy. That alone should be cause for concern or at least reflection on the part of the big head. I was hesitant to post on this forum because I am not sure this particular person qualifies as an SB since I know I was not her only squeeze back when we were hot and heavy but she lead me to believe she didn't have the same level of involvement with the others (Yea, I know you are all having a good laugh and believe me I am not above laughing at myself for buying that crap). When we spent time together it was very enjoyable for me so WTF did I care! This also is one of the reasons I don't post on this forum frequently because I doubt whether I have a true SD SB relationship. However, to your point, she has resurfaced not simply because she has realized she aint gettin the luvin I'm givin no where else but because she needs $$$. I have never considered the blackmail angle but you are very correct to point that out because $$$ can cause people to do things they normally wouldn't. You have caused me to pause and reflect on what her actions both past and present mean in terms of possible future behavior and for that I am grateful. I have benefited immensely from the postings on this forum and want to contribute what I can. Thank you for sharing and keeping me level headed.

LL

[QUOTE=Snake27; 1360537] (On the other hand, one could argue that if you cannot afford $35 / mo for the site then why try to be a sugar daddy?). I suppose one could try a temporary credit card with 3 months worth of money on it. I'm wondering what your experiences are?

Recently, I did sign up (without paying) for a SD site and browsed around. It looked promising and worth a $100 gamble. Funny thing is, although my profile didn't appear anywhere (since I did not pay) , for several days I got a bunch of e-mails from alleged site members who were hot young women with attractive photographs inviting me to sign up. Funny![/QUOTE]Snake,

Don't even contemplate paying to be a member of whatever site you are referring to here. At one time, I had paid-up memberships on all the major SB sites, and had difficulties cancelling when I had to grudgingly admit to myself that most of the contacts I was getting were from fake profiles who were shilling for pay-per-view cam sites. It's not about the money, it's the principle. If I'm going to get fucked, I want it to be by an HYB, not some fat Russian dude. Bottom line, if your profile isn't yet visible, and you're getting hits, they're fake, and the site itself should be viewed as such as well, or at least with a great deal of skepticism.
As I have said previously, SA is, for me, the sine qua non of SB sites. Sugardaddy4me is second, but in my area at least the babies on that site were a little skankier, with the exception of one little fish that I could never convince to rise to my presentation. I kept renewing in the hopes that I could lure her to the net, but alas, no joy. If you review the thread, you will find that these two sites are the odds-on favorites, with SD4M being hard to cancel, and therefore perhaps the slightly less desirable of the two. Browse them both and go with the one that has the most intriguing babies in your area and in your opinion.

Whatever you contemplate, remember to trust your instincts; if it smells like a duck, it probably walks like one too, or something like that.

Scott

[QUOTE=Hernando;1363474]It is totally unacceptable IMHO for a SB to disappear without so much as a Kiss My AZZ, fare the well. This is a major sign of low class dirt ball Nando type 1 behavior.[/QUOTE]This seems to be the modern method the modern woman uses to say good bye. It sends a clear message and avoids drama.