Safe Sex Information and Advice

[QUOTE=Tripnosis;4116981]It's been 6 weeks since I've barebacked a meth addict (status unknown). A full ten second and less of very dry vaginal intercourse with her on top with me finishing inside her.

A week afterwards I started getting flu symptoms: canker sores, muscle weakness, yellow to green mucus, coughs. Symptoms have persisted for the 6 weeks on and off. Still haven't had chills, headaches, fever, or rashes.

Although I live in the cold and could just attribute this to the flu, the canker sores and random muscle aches have been off putting. I've never had canker sores unless I accidentally bit my lip or brush too hard against my gums. The muscle ache\weakness is new. Although I can lift and contract muscles normally, it feels weak like you're in a hypoglycemic state all the time. Then I get these random and mild muscle aches, the worst so far has been jabbing neck pains in the lymph nodes that leads to earaches.

Feels like my luck is finally out. I've been hyper aware of everything HIV since then; I literally sat the airport, looked up and saw a magic johnson ad looking back at me and panicked. What could the transmission route have been in this potential case? Break in the skin or through the urethra? It was so dry I can only assume it was either through skin break or the urethra tip unfolding of the penis.

I'll be testing at the 7 week mark and will update. This post was more a less of #offmychest. Will be interesting to see if I fall into that. 04% odds of transmission.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.

[QUOTE=Murphy69;4133311]I seriously doubt you contracted anything serious if you look at the stats on actual transmission and see how hard it can be to get something awful even with an infected partner. Something ore simple that an antibiotic may fix would be more a realty in my opinion. I'd say test and get your answers then relax. I have been where you are and all the self torture you're doing really wears on you. You begin to feel sick in certain ways and phantom pains and illness pops up. I can say that if I had to bet I am about 99.99% sure you are fine and I will be found to be correct. I hope all turns out well for you as I'm sure it will.[/QUOTE]Also, HIV symptons probably going aren't going to show up that soon. And it can take 6 months to show up on a test. If you have a wife, fuck her as little as possible and definitely do not do anal on her until you get tested.

[QUOTE=BigRon1969;4132685]I was talking to a friend yesterday who has a cousin on SA and her cousin is 19, Latina mix and actually gets $$ per visit. Thing is that her cousin has herpes. I don't know her profile and won't find out. She said that some guys get so worked up about going BB that they just do it anyway. Although pleasurable, you may be bringing back some extra baggage. Stay covered my friends.[/QUOTE]Condoms do not protect against herpes, you're f*cked.

[QUOTE=BoroGuy54;4133397]Condoms do not protect against herpes, you're f*cked.[/QUOTE]Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.

I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesn’t slow the guys down. I guess I’m old school. Show me the papers before we’re BB.

[QUOTE=BlackHawk101;4134369]Conclusions Condom use offers significant protection against HSV-2 infection in susceptible women. Changes in sexual behavior, correlated with counseling about avoiding sex when a partner has lesions, were associated with reduction in HSV-2 acquisition over time. These data suggest that identification of discordant couples can reduce transmission of HSV-2, especially for heterosexual couples in which the male partner has HSV-2 infection.

I have 2 female friends I know who have it. They say 80% of the guys they date want to go BB. It doesnt slow the guys down. I guess Im old school. Show me the papers before were BB.[/QUOTE]Blackhawk you are much more experienced in this game than I will ever be. But what you just described is parners who are intimate and of course then it is easier to keep from catching the virus. However, we are talking about guys who have sex with random women and women who have sex with random guys not knowing anything about their habits, lifestyles, or kinky shit they may be into. The fear of herpes in one reason I normally stick to bjs and with a select few bbbjs. And there is a certain member I never see a provider he has been with because chances are he has barebacked them.

[QUOTE=Tanatloc;4137015]Lisa does not let you CIP? Are we talking about the big titted, redheaded, chubby Lisa? I was under impression CIP with her isavailable to anyone.

Also questiin about Lucy. How does tightness of her box compare to Lily?[/QUOTE]A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?

[QUOTE=VanillaStick;4139079]A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?[/QUOTE]There are 109,000 people with HIV in NYC. Just remember that.

Hypothetical situation here.

Lets say someone goes to an Asian massage parlor. Pays 50 for a massage and tips 100. Pretending the masseuse comes in to the room in a very sexy outfit, takes it off, puts a condom on the guy. Sucks and rides him with a condom. Then finishes him with a hand and no condom. What are the std risk levels here? Is it safe for her to wash you down in rubbing alcohol too?

[QUOTE=VanillaStick;4139079]A question for you brave gentlemen. Aren't you guys concerned of STD's, especially those you can't rid of, like HIV, ETC. I would love to give this a try but scared to death of that. How are you sure they are clean?[/QUOTE]I rmember being a naive kid who started out never expecting BBFS because it always seemed like a forbidden thing that was impossible to have. Then years later I find this forum and I've been almost exclusively been doing BBFS with providers. I'm starting to lose track of the women I've inseminated and I pray to God or whoever is answering to not give me a std or a kid. I sometimes wish I never found this forum but then I'm sticking my dick inside a nice warm pussy and all my worries go away till later that night. I can't get enough it's like my addiction while others have booze or drugs I bare fuck these chicks.

Thats why we are all here. Too test the water and report back. Its rare but members do report if they unfortunately contact something from a providers but some time its just bacteria from unclean providers and others will just say stories about when they did contact something and give members advice. Its a shameful thing to contact something and its not easy to always report back if member criticize you

Most of us wear our rain coats so we mainly discuss service but since this section is mixed the BBFS members should be more informative but for the most part everyone that BBFS at Mott has not said anything bad so up until now everything seems ok.

We all take risk in the hobby why worry about the next man doing BBFS when you should be greatful he taking the risk to report back us on the forum.( thats how i see it)


[QUOTE=Chris93;4139283]I rmember being a naive kid who started out never expecting BBFS because it always seemed like a forbidden thing that was impossible to have. Then years later I find this forum and I've been almost exclusively been doing BBFS with providers. I'm starting to lose track of the women I've inseminated and I pray to God or whoever is answering to not give me a std or a kid. I sometimes wish I never found this forum but then I'm sticking my dick inside a nice warm pussy and all my worries go away till later that night. I can't get enough it's like my addiction while others have booze or drugs I bare fuck these chicks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JDoe1969;4139258]Hypothetical situation here.

Lets say someone goes to an Asian massage parlor. Pays 50 for a massage and tips 100. Pretending the masseuse comes in to the room in a very sexy outfit, takes it off, puts a condom on the guy. Sucks and rides him with a condom. Then finishes him with a hand and no condom. What are the std risk levels here? Is it safe for her to wash you down in rubbing alcohol too?[/QUOTE]Risk is low. Not zero of course, but very close. Absent symptoms, personally I would not worry. If you have hypochondriac tendencies and can't get the worry out of your mind, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea tests can be done after 1 week or more. The rest (4th gen HIV test, syphilis, Hepatitis. Herpes) can be done after 42 days. At that point your odds are probably 1 in millions against. You could test again at 6 months if you need to get rid of that 1 in millions chance.

[QUOTE=Chris93;4139283]I rmember being a naive kid who started out never expecting BBFS because it always seemed like a forbidden thing that was impossible to have. Then years later I find this forum and I've been almost exclusively been doing BBFS with providers. I'm starting to lose track of the women I've inseminated and I pray to God or whoever is answering to not give me a std or a kid. I sometimes wish I never found this forum but then I'm sticking my dick inside a nice warm pussy and all my worries go away till later that night. I can't get enough it's like my addiction while others have booze or drugs I bare fuck these chicks.[/QUOTE]How often do you test yourself for STDs?

[QUOTE=MelloDobot;4139355]Thats why we are all here. Too test the water and report back. Its rare but members do report if they unfortunately contact something from a providers but some time its just bacteria from unclean providers and others will just say stories about when they did contact something and give members advice. Its a shameful thing to contact something and its not easy to always report back if member criticize you

Most of us wear our rain coats so we mainly discuss service but since this section is mixed the BBFS members should be more informative but for the most part everyone that BBFS at Mott has not said anything bad so up until now everything seems ok.

We all take risk in the hobby why worry about the next man doing BBFS when you should be greatful he taking the risk to report back us on the forum.( thats how i see it)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=VanillaStick;4139513]Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned or criticizing another mans choice for BBFS. I'm just asking how it's done with piece of mind. How you're comfortable enough with the provider, if there is something special you know that makes you feel safe. Believe me, I have the sexual addiction also, or I wouldn't be here. I can't tell you how many times I've been offered BBFS, and I stick it in for a minute then get scared and put in the cover. I hear some providers and clients are getting something called Prep. I think it's a new drug to help prevent HIV and the othe H virus that I can't think of now. So not criticizing, just looking for info.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I remember many, many years ago getting scared shitless just because cover broke mid session. Then I've realized not every provider has stds. In fact very few of them have and pretty much same rule applies for civilian girls. While there are no absolute guarantees in this business (unless everyone gets regularly tested, etc.) there are few things you can do to help yourself. Here are my basic guidelines:

1. Avoid BB anal. Risk of transmission is simply much greater and I'm restrictive with this activity even with civilians.

2. Avoid SW and providers suspectible of using drugs. Aside from the more obvious concerns I find those providers often lacking basic hygiene and that's a problem of it's own.

3. Avoid providers openly advertising BBFS. Those providers would be simply less selective (if selective at all) and their exposure is simply greater. Admittedly 98 Mott is an exception for me in those terms and I would still bareback Gina Rollins if I ever had a chance in the future. Otherwise it's just something ti keep in mind.

4. If it looks and / or smells funky there it is probably not kosher. This one is self explanatory.

5. Take care of yourself. Clean your tool with alcohol after session (hand sanitizer works as well) and get hepatitis vaccination if you did not thus far. Hepatitis is actually more common than you may think.

[QUOTE=DRMongerII;4139238]There are 109,000 people with HIV in NYC. Just remember that.[/QUOTE]Out of a city of 8 million. You might have a greater chance of being arrested.