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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7092179]He did have one good approach for meeting young girls in the wild that I liked. Which was hitting up girls that work retail by pretending he was buying a gift for a young niece or whoever and then slipping them his card with the offer of a few dollars for a good time.[/QUOTE]I've done stuff like that since way before he posted it and I still do. It's nothing new. It's just picking up girls in public the old fashioned way. And if you go in with the mindset of just taking a girl out on a civie date instead of a monger mindset. Then you can get the pussy free. Just for the cost of a dinner. Now that's a true player mindset! I don't always pay for pussy directly.

It was his approach and tone in his posts that was crass and obnoxious. I wasn't the only one that thought he was an ass. Plenty of the true OGs didn't like him either. That's why we gave him the name goldentool. One of those people that love the sound of their own voice.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7092179]He did have one good approach for meeting young girls in the wild that I liked. Which was hitting up girls that work retail by pretending he was buying a gift for a young niece or whoever and then slipping them his card with the offer of a few dollars for a good time.[/QUOTE]How does this approach compare to all the pickup artist stuff that was out there a decade ago?

[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7092362]How does this approach compare to all the pickup artist stuff that was out there a decade ago?[/QUOTE]You'd have to talk to Goldentool to find that out. He made it seem like it worked every time. Which I can tell you it does not. I pick up girls in public with various approaches. Success of picking up a girl in public is 50/50. I don't always score. There is no guaranteed method. You can use his method but don't think you're guaranteed it will always work.

I've used something similar for ages. Since I'm a photographer as a side gig. I sometimes hand out my photography business card to hot girls. It has my burner number on it and burner email. This is mostly when I'm planning to work the girl as a POT non-pro. But most of the time I just pick up on girls as a potential civie date. I'd rather try to get the pussy free for just the cost of a regular civie date. But either approach is not guaranteed. If you're a much older dude trying to pick up a very young honey. You can easily come off as a creep. Especially trying to pick them up as a POT sugarbaby. Pretty much any girl in public you try and pickup as a POT sugarbaby can backfire. You can easily offend them offering that. Because they're not out there looking to be paid for sex normally. Now picking them up as a potential civie date is something more normal. If you're not smooth talking to the ladies in public. Then you can easily fuck it up. You have to be very outgoing, have confidence, charming, have some decent good looks and what the kids now call rizz(charisma).

[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7092362]How does this approach compare to all the pickup artist stuff that was out there a decade ago?[/QUOTE]The post below is very old school. Being a photographer is probably one of the easiest ways to get in a girls pants. I never met one or heard of one that wasn't working that angle and succeeding on various levels. On model mayhem alone there are literally hundreds of guys doing it. Just start out doing TFP's to build your portfolio and look legit and then take it from there.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7093227]The post below is very old school. Being a photographer is probably one of the easiest ways to get in a girls pants. I never met one or heard of one that wasn't working that angle and succeeding on various levels. On model mayhem alone there are literally hundreds of guys doing it. Just start out doing TFP's to build your portfolio and look legit and then take it from there.[/QUOTE]Let's clarify that. A real legit photographer like myself that has the years of experience and education in photography since high school. Not some dude trying to pass himself off as an amateur photographer using his phone as his camera. I have the thousands of dollars worth of photographic equipment and shoot in rented out studios. Like I said I only use that angle sparingly. And I've also gotten free pussy civie dating by giving my business card. Because obviously my contact number is on there. I primarily use the civie dating angle which I am successful at to. But not 100% percent successful all the time. No one approach is guaranteed. There are some sleazy dudes out there passing themselves off as real photographers. I love photography for the sake of the art. Not purely as an angle to get pussy. I don't just photograph women. I also love general photography, portraiture and my primary favorite, night photography.

I have more respect for a guy that can get pussy free just through the civie dating way. And the two I discussed are just a few of the many different approaches in the civie dating pick up game. I speak on real world results. Not fantasy world imaginary world results. Especially in this day and age with a stronger feminist movement and the "me too" movement. Women in public easily get offended nowadays. Many years ago before the me too movement. It was easier to talk to a woman and compliment them. Nowadays sometimes just looking / checking out a woman they feel victimized and like you ra*ped them with a one way ticket to join the me too movement. It's ridiculous. Men have been so ostracized nowadays. So that's why now it's a very thin line you're walking trying to pick up a girl in public as a sugarbaby. You have to be very careful. Even just trying to pick up civie dating way you have to be careful not to say something wrong. Men can't be men easily in this new day and age.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7093287]I have more respect for a guy that can get pussy free just through the civie dating way. And the two I discussed are just a few of the many different approaches in the civie dating pick up game. I speak on real world results. Not fantasy world imaginary world results. Especially in this day and age with a stronger feminist movement and the "me too" movement. Women in public easily get offended nowadays. Many years ago before the me too movement. It was easier to talk to a woman and compliment them. Nowadays sometimes just looking / checking out a woman they feel victimized and like you ra*ped them with a one way ticket to join the me too movement. It's ridiculous. Men have been so ostracized nowadays. So that's why now it's a very thin line you're walking trying to pick up a girl in public as a sugarbaby. You have to be very careful. Even just trying to pick up civie dating way you have to be careful not to say something wrong. Men can't be men easily in this new day and age.[/QUOTE]I don't even approach women in public anymore, for the reasons you mentioned. I have some game, but it's not worth it. I can get a better looking, better performing woman by hiring an escort and be in and out with no hassle and a smile on my face. I'd rather spend a few hundred than waste hours of my time talking to women, texting them, taking them out to dinner, making small talk and maybe not even getting laid or getting laid poorly, and all at the risk of getting #metoo'ed by the wrong woman. Modern women simply are not worth the risk, imo. I've gone full hooker (I include sugar babies as hookers).

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[QUOTE=Chupacabra;7093426]I don't even approach women in public anymore, for the reasons you mentioned. I have some game, but it's not worth it. I can get a better looking, better performing woman by hiring an escort and be in and out with no hassle and a smile on my face. I'd rather spend a few hundred than waste hours of my time talking to women, texting them, taking them out to dinner, making small talk and maybe not even getting laid or getting laid poorly, and all at the risk of getting #metoo'ed by the wrong woman. Modern women simply are not worth the risk, imo. I've gone full hooker (I include sugar babies as hookers).[/QUOTE]LOL I feel ya man. It's like walking on thin ice with the ladies in public nowadays. That's why I don't blame dudes that go full on pro. But I still try and talk to the ladies. And I flirt everywhere with them. In the drivethru, supermarket, department stores, restaurants, etc. Ain't no shame in my game! LOL I feel way more fulfilled when I can pick up a girl, take her on a civie date and get in her panties that way. Sometimes just for the cost of a couple drinks and great conversation. Not even an expensive dinner. Best compliment I feel for a guy is when you're out at a restaurant or bar / grill with your friends. Not even looking to pick up on a girl. And a couple ladies buy and send you over a drink. I've had some wild bedroom sessions that started like that and sometimes threesomes with both of the chics. And it didn't even cost me anything. They bought me a drink. Just need to tread carefully in public with the ladies now. Have to also know how to read their body language. The subtletest of movement in body language can speak volumes and you have to know how to read it.

And yes I agree on career sugarbabies being labeled hookers/prostitutes. Way way overpriced prostitutes. A first time brand new real sugarbaby. I don't. That's why I prefer to find them as non-pros. They usually don't always go on to graduate to career sugarbabies.

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In sacramento. Anyone traveling and has any info, please let me know. PM is fine.[/QUOTE]I did a pimeyes face search and it didn't pick up any escort ads or porn. But one of her pics is in a motel / hotel room which can mean anything. But more often than not can mean she is a prostitute.

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[QUOTE=Lexx1;7093466]LOL I feel ya man. It's like walking on thin ice with the ladies in public nowadays. That's why I don't blame dudes that go full on pro. But I still try and talk to the ladies. And I flirt everywhere with them. In the drivethru, supermarket, department stores, restaurants, etc. Ain't no shame in my game! LOL I feel way more fulfilled when I can pick up a girl, take her on a civie date and get in her panties that way. Sometimes just for the cost of a couple drinks and great conversation. Not even an expensive dinner. Best compliment I feel for a guy is when you're out at a restaurant or bar / grill with your friends. Not even looking to pick up on a girl. And a couple ladies buy and send you over a drink. I've had some wild bedroom sessions that started like that and sometimes threesomes with both of the chics. And it didn't even cost me anything. They bought me a drink. Just need to tread carefully in public with the ladies now. Have to also know how to read their body language. The subtletest of movement in body language can speak volumes and you have to know how to read it.

And yes I agree on career sugarbabies being labeled hookers/prostitutes. Way way overpriced prostitutes. A first time brand new real sugarbaby. I don't. That's why I prefer to find them as non-pros. They usually don't always go on to graduate to career sugarbabies.[/QUOTE]If you have ladies sending over drinks you are definitely the 20% that are dating 80% of the chics haha. Since we are on the sugar forum, what are smart ways I can use my monetary resources for this endevor? Most of us on here are probably not fuc bois or tiktokers but monetary resources are our biggest strengths to attract women.

She just wants money for a M&G. Unverified.

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[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7094020]If you have ladies sending over drinks you are definitely the 20% that are dating 80% of the chics haha. Since we are on the sugar forum, what are smart ways I can use my monetary resources for this endevor? Most of us on here are probably not fuc bois or tiktokers but monetary resources are our biggest strengths to attract women.[/QUOTE]LOL I wouldn't call myself a fucboy or tiktoker. That's a young man's game. The dating scenarios I mentioned happened more often in my 20's, 30's when I used to go clubbing still and bars. And sometimes in my 40's. I'm 50 now. I also have the monetary sources since my primary career is in engineering. I could spend 1000 on a nonpro / sugarbaby easily. But why? The most I've ever spent on pussy is 350. On average I can still find some girls willing to take close to 150. With my average now being around 250. Because I always stick to the youngest, newest and freshest pussy. Especially with these current sugarbabies restricting you guys to a non GFE and wanting minimum 500 to astronomical 1000 and up. I'm not paying anything near 500 especially for a 30 yr old and up. If I'm paying for the pussy I want young filet mignon not old flank steak / chuck roast. LOL. 30's and up should not be on a sugar site. Those ladies need to be civie dated. Sugarbabies are meant to be young college age girls. If you're paying 1000 and up. You should be getting fine ass girls, for overnights and everything bare, no restrictions. Those women are career sugarbabies and sugar veterans.

Being that I'm 50 I do my best to take care of myself. Unfortunately I was cursed with starting to gray at a young age in my 20's. So now I do my best to cover my gray. Because like that just for men commercial. There ain't no play for Mr gray! LOL. At least I have a bit of a baby face which helps keep me looking younger. I do all that to stay appealing attractive still to these ladies. Just today I got a burger at Wendy's and I spotted a hot looking emo / goth girl going in too. She was wearing some sexy purple stockings. My favorite color. I complimented her on them and she was receptive and we struck up a conversation. Also told her I thought she was gorgeous and she said thank you. She was a light skin Latina, petite and had a great body with a beautiful face. We kept talking and told her I loved her look and we ended up exchanging Instas and I gave her my number. She was excited showing me all her different looks on her Insta. Man she was looking even hotter in some of those pics. We might be getting together some time next weekend. I say might because young ladies can be flaky sometimes. So that's all it takes to break the ice and start conversing with these young honeys. She's 22.

While for me, one thing I am looking for in a SB I see ongoing is someone who cumms like a freight train, it seems like I've come across several who enjoy sex to be sure, but in a different way. They aren't so into their own orgasms, but they really get a kick when I CIP. And I do only covered, so there's not some other weird thing going on. They just like the idea I am getting off I guess. This is true of my current SB, who is an early 30's dance instructor, very pretty, who I get to bang weekly at her place for small money. I have also heard this from a few young latina spinners I've met from seeking, many of which I never even took to the FC.

Compare notes? Anyone have experience that identifies a particular demographic as hard cummmmmers, or a group that are just pleasers and don't care if they get off?