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This group in Murfreesboro is going to get someone hurt some day. I have posted a warning about them before. There two streets that I know of where they work from.

Falls Creek drive and Skyview. I know of 3 people that have robbed so there are probably more than that. If anyone would like more information that I've.

Collected over the past year PM me. I live there and hate that this is going on here. Best advice I can offer is stay away from from anyone in Murfreesboro that does not have.

Good reviews on this forum.

[QUOTE=JroBanks;2871827]Look, bottom line is that paying for a rubdown, dancing, stripping or some other service is NOT illegal. You can pay a girl to read Emily Dickinson to you if you want. If that heats you up. If you want to talk to all of your potential dates about illegal things that include "sex acts for money," then hey, have at it! Yeah, in those cases, you would have said whatever LE needs you to say in order to make an arrest, so look to end up on the evening news. But if you have an agreement with your date for a rub or dancing then what happens after that might be hard to prove was paid for.

Not that I have omnipotent observations but. Me thinks the decoy / cop is going to try to get you to say some form of "sex for money" in their presence. Often there are two girls in the room which IMHO is a red flag for a couple of reasons. Also assume that the room is bugged. Have not seen cases where phone conversations or emails were used as the "proof" for solicitation without the dude offering "sex for money" in person. Connecting a 'voice on a phone,' a phone number or emails with the live person standing in the room would require the kind of time (warrants, subpoena) that just aren't worth it for a misdemeanor. But hey, call or text them from your cell phone registered in your name and by all means carry that phone into the date! NOT!

So here are my 22 Rules for Dating off BP? Can you take short cuts from all this work? Sure and you can become a statistic too.

1) Look at the pics. If it is too good to be true (TGTBT), then it probably is. Top pros with websites and Eros level prices are usually the exception.

2) Check out the images. Use Tineye or Google Image.

3) What do the pictures tell you? Traveler? Regular poster? Fake pictures?

4) Fake pictures are ones that are borrowed from another website. Fake pics are also pro level shots "altered" to look amateur like. If you can't tell the difference. Back off and watch the posts for 3-months until your eye is trained.

5) Travelers, while they maybe legit and good dates can tend to have low incentive to provide a great date under the hit & run philosophy. If your not looking for repeat clients because your gone in a week, then level of service isn't of concern. Also watch for Vegas and NV area codes! You want to avoid the hardcore pro girls who know how to separate you from your hard earned cash.

6) Check the girl's number with a search engine or one of the Escort Phone number search sites. Ibid all of the above.

7) Check for reviews of the girl on USA, TER or other review type sites.

8) NEVER call a potential date from your regular cell phone that has your name, address, etc, attached to it!

8) Have a Google Voice account set up. USE IT!

9) Use a burner or hobby phone with the GV.

10) Don't buy a hobby phone with a credit card, ATM card or debit card, don't set it up with your name, address, etc.

11) When contacting the girl, be polite, know your spending limits.

12) Ask the girl about the value of her time for a massage, rubdown, dancing or reading poetry to you!

13) NEVER ask about specific acts and / or the cost of such.

14) Any girl that says it is $100 for a s*ck & f*ck is breaking the law and is either a cop or is incredibly ignorant. I'd avoid both.

15) If meeting a girl at a hotel / motel get there well in advance and do some recon. See a bunch of unmarked cars in the lot? Any vans with tinted windows and people inside? Any buses or meat packing style trucks around? When approaching the room what does one hear in the hallway from the other rooms. Bunch of cops shooting the breeze, interrogating the last suspect? What happens if you walk past the door and return a few minutes later?

16) When entering the room. Is there more than one girl there? Better ask about that right away. Consider leaving.

17) Check the rest of the room or suite for other people. More than just the girl is a red flag. Check for an unlocked adjoining door.

18) When closing the door, add the security chain or throw the safety bar. Can't imagine a cop allowing them self to be cut-off from outside help like that.

19) Ask to do the cop check thing and do a verbal play-by-play! Say, "Oh yer pussy feels so wet", or "Oh your hand on my hard di*ck feels nice!" If the prosecutor is going to use a tape to nab you, might as well get embarrassing evidence included.

20) Never take anything into the date that you don't want to loose or have used against you. Suggest carrying just the Poetry Reading Fee, your copy of Emily Dickinson and a car key. Period. No cell phones, no wads of cash, no expensive jewelry, no high-priced watches, etc.

21) NEVER TALK SEX FOR MONEY! Never hand the money to the girl! Lay it on a table, TV, counter, etc, away from the girl with NO comment. You can look at it, just do not talk about it. Some slick ways to do this is have it in an envelop with the words, "fee for reading poetry" written on it. You can use the bathroom and leave it in there and then ask the girl to check something in the bathroom for you.

22) If she makes statements about sex for money, before she is fully naked and holding yer Johnson, say "I have no idea what your talking about, I came for a rub, dancing, poetry reading and turn and leave.

23. NEVER pay up front! By this I mean never put the money in the girls control until she has finished the poetry reading! If she is coming to you, she can pay the driver on the way home! Pay him now and what incentive does he have to stick around? It makes zero sense. Girls who have been ripped off before often want to see that you have the money before they will read. This is a distrusting soul so beware. That distrust can bleed over into other areas of the date.

When I have been asked for the money, I am glad to show them that I have the Poetry Reading Fee. I'll fan the bills out so she can count them while maintaining a firm grip. I watch for her grabbing for the fee. (she does that and I am gone) That usually satisfies most girls. Then the fee goes back in my pocket until the last Sonnet is verbalized. For others, I might lay the fee out in the open, on a TV, bed stand, chair etc. , with the provision that she gets the fee once the reading is over. IN ADDITION I make sure I remain between her and the fee at all times. So it makes sense to place the fee closer to the door than to the bathroom. She might legitimately head to the Bathroom during the date, but heading the other direction can only be for the cash. Shoot, once I actually placed the fee on the floor right next to the door after I secured the safety bar.

I had one girl, a former stripper, insist that I pay her up front. I tried showing her the money, laying it out and a few other things. When that didn't work, I gathered myself up and headed out the door. (doing that usually injects a bunch of reason in the girl) Oh sure in this extreme case she was arguing with me for 15-minutes about paying up front. Once I was in the car and turning the key, she realized she was going to get nothing, she relented. But the bottom line is. If you are NOT willing to walk away, you can become a victim. Always be willing to walk if she isn't reasonable! Anyone doing a scam is going to insist you play her game, refuse & walk away and she out games herself.

Finally. Any interjection of a third party into things is the recipe for disaster. The girl doesn't need to pay the baby sitter up front, the driver before she is returned home, give her friend money for groceries or pay for the room first. All of these are set ups for possible scams. Once the money leaves your control, you have no control over the date and are vulnerable to a scam.

Had some girl tell me her process was to give the money paid up front to her friend, since she had been ripped off before. I didn't bite and she tried every way possible to get me to pay something up front. In this case, I was picking her up for a date. Oh sure, she promised to leave her phone, jewelry or something else of value as collateral so that she would come back after handing her friend the money. Problem is this is a bad trade. Usually what is left as "collateral" turns out to be worthless junk. A $20 cellphone, costume jewelry, etc. She leaves a phone and if she reports it stolen and it gets locked. What value is it? So the "leaving collateral" is a trade: she is trading up and you are trading down.

Also in the pick the girl up scenario. If you pay her up front, she can jump out of the car at the first stop sign or traffic light. Even worse for you is if she does that and screams rape or that you beat her. Her having the fee up front and the BF can bust in the room or make a scene where you want to leave as fast as possible. Sure these are extreme cases, but anyone insisting on being paid up front is more likely to exhibit those behaviors. Don't play this game, just don't pay up front!

Can you follow all of these rules and still get arrested? Sure. Anything can happen. But if you follow these rules the chances of anything sticking are pretty darn slim.

Play safe, play knowledgeable.

Happy hunting!

These are just the best I could come up with. I hope others with more experience will add to the list.[/QUOTE]I recommend we pin this or create a subfolder called Wisdom / Advice and place it in there.

[QUOTE=JLBloveshe;2872636]I recommend we pin this or create a subfolder called Wisdom / Advice and place it in there.[/QUOTE]I second that. Very good advice there!

[QUOTE=JLBloveshe;2872636]I recommend we pin this or create a subfolder called Wisdom / Advice and place it in there.[/QUOTE]There's more where that came from:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19166-First-Time-Posters-and-Newbies[/URL]

[QUOTE=SconLin63;2872006]Beware of this add they tried to rob me the street they live on is fall creek drive the number is 615-XXX-4036.

[URL]http://nashville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/here-to-please/16908838[/URL][/QUOTE]This is a good start.

Hey guys I need your help I'm in Cookeville and I was wondering if anyone knows any nice girl that can come to me.

[QUOTE=SconLin63;2872006]Beware of this add they tried to rob me the street they live on is fall creek drive the number is 615-XXX-4036.

[URL]http://nashville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/here-to-please/16908838[/URL][/QUOTE]Google search shows that number tied to "Hannah" that has ripped off others. Either fake pics now or friend. Avoid either way.

Old BP ad same number.

[URL]http://tennessee.backpage.com/BodyRubs/fun-relaxing-deep-tissue-massage615-710-4036/15609925[/URL]

Is it worth it to join P411?

Does anyone know any nice girl that can come to Cookeville?

[QUOTE=PhilJennings;2872999]Google search shows that number tied to "Hannah" that has ripped off others. Either fake pics now or friend. Avoid either way.

Old BP ad same number.



[URL]http://tennessee.backpage.com/BodyRubs/fun-relaxing-deep-tissue-massage615-710-4036/15609925[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, she also uses the name "Carson".

Last summer, she had a pic in her ad that was taken from her social media site. It had her real name on it.

If you ask me, the girl is a couple sammiches shy of a picnic. Why would she put her real name out there after robbing guys?

[QUOTE=VolFan3323;2873006]Is it worth it to join P411?[/QUOTE]To me Yes but it depends on your situation. I have been a member for a few years but don't login that often. You will rarely see anyone under 300 listed so your budget may determine if it is worth your time. That is really the top rate for me and will disqualify at least half the listings.

It does make things much easier when both parties are members. I usually shoot a preliminary message from the site if it is a first contact and it seems to smooth things over. The provider can review your profile along with the message. The membership itself is really not that expensive and some of the providers offer discounts to members. I have not regretted the decision of joining. Small price for an added layer of safety. If you have any desire to see safe quality traveling providers it is almost a must.

I had a really mediocre session from a provider early on but she gave me good advice about joining and staying off of BP. It all evened out.).

[QUOTE=Bear46;2815496]Her real name is Ashley. I know her and her family personally from before I ever started hobbying. And she will rip you off. She's been in and out of jail for about 8 or 9 yes now. Everything from drugs, to prostitution, to theft. Stay away from this one guys. Nothing but trouble.[/QUOTE]She's back. Will grab and run. Knowing her, I'm sure she was visiting her uncle for a while again. Refer to #9508\9510.

[URL]http://nashville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jess-in-town-to-play-9314445881-incall-in-manchester/16858761[/URL]

[QUOTE=CashVillian;2871758]I haven't seen any reviews on her an googling her number gets me nowhere. I would appreciate any info. I think she is hella cute and her ass is niiicccee! Thanks in advance.

[URL]http://nashville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tacoma-doll-mzjuicy-two-girl-specials/16734010[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude,

I am sure some of the other fellas have replied. She looks hot, but when you do an image search you will find the exact same posting on both Nashville and Viginia Beach Backpages within the last 7 days! I would stay away man.

I'm finally getting around to writing this I saw Skylar this past Friday it was around the 8th Time I've seen her & it's always a pleasure she is definitely the girl in her photos and I've noticed she always post a new photo she is easily one of the most beautiful ladies I've met with a smile that lights up a room she is 100 % safe had told me in advance of her arriving in Nashville to see if I could find some dental dam and a Female condom (apparently one of her other clients brought some to use and she liked them) I found them and it was nice SHE IS JUST FUN AS HELL TO BE WITH AND WILD AS FUCK IN BED. She is about 6 feet tall with legs that won't quit a perfect Ass that she likes having Smacked especially when she is about to come and the sounds and faces she makes drive me up a wall with pleasure the last time I saw her she let me give her a massage and help her shoot a new shower video for her Ad (though I haven't seen her use it yet) I like spending a couple of hours with her when I see her and around the end of last Month I was in Chattanooga and happened to catch her there working with a cute friend of hers but I'll write that review later, she is also easy to Talk to and really makes you feel like your best friends with Benefits instead business transaction.

[QUOTE=TNTraveler;2873347]Dude,

I am sure some of the other fellas have replied. She looks hot, but when you do an image search you will find the exact same posting on both Nashville and Viginia Beach Backpages within the last 7 days! I would stay away man.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. I tried that on tineye but didn't get any results.