Scammer or Just Plain Crazy
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Summary: either a scammer, or just too plain crazy and in a ridiculous situation, arrangement would never work.
Long Story:
Hit her up, responded pretty well on SA. Moved to text after a couple chats back and forth, totally normal. I asked her for a verification photo holding up 3 fingers, and she asks for a video call instead. We do a Snapchat video call, she's real and not a catfish. Said she was in a hotel, no money left and nowhere to go with her and her 2 kids, a dog, and 2 cats. However, she did not ask for money. She specifically said she'll try and figure it out, it should only be temporary until she can get back to work, then we can meet up because she'll be able to hire a babysitter.
I wanted to meet sooner, and I felt bad since she was a real girl in hard times, and she didn't seem like a scammer since nowhere did she ever ask for cash. I tell her I usually don't send money before meeting, and she said she can def relate, she hears there's tons of people scamming online and she understands I have to protect myself.
At this point, I thought I could trust her. I asked her how much it was to extend for another day, and she tells me $138. I make plans with her to meet the next day I ask her what she's comfortable with, and she mentions no anal, nothing with BDSM or pain, and we have to use protection. I tell her condoms are a deal breaker since I can't cum with one on, I have tests from less than a week ago to show her. She says "Okay, since you're trusting me by sending money, I'll trust you when we meet up. ".
We talk about the allowance, settle on 400 PPM. She also asks for money to book a baby sitter, said she has 2 kids and it's $25/ hr / kid, so $50/ hr. I tell her she can pay when she picks the kids up, I'll give her money in person, but she says it's some sort of online service where you have to book in advance. In hindsight, I should've questioned this, but because she seemed so reasonable on the call up to then, I didn't demand to see a receipt or screenshot or anything. I send her $150 for 3 hours. We then make plans to meet up at 7 AM because I had to be somewhere in PA by noon. We'd get breakfast and hook up. I told her I'd text her at 6 AM since she's an hour away from me, I want her to confirm before I head out. I remind her to set her alarm and charge her phone.
6 AM the next morning rolls around, she doesn't respond to my texts. 11 AM, when her checkout time is, and she sudden responds mortified that she slept through 3 alarms, and didn't wake up until the front desk was banging on her door for 5 min cause they needed her to leave. I tell her "what do you want me to say" and she gives me a sort of sorry, sort of mad response that she only slept 3 hours due to her kid waking up, she didn't sleep for 2 days before because she's stressed about her situation, sorry she's a single mom and trying her best, etc.
I hit her up at 4 PM after I finished running my 12 PM errand, and tell her if she can find a way to meet up, I can still take care of her. She says she can't, nobody to watch the kids. I ask her where she's currently at, she says in the parking lot of the hotel, and sends me a pic of her cats in a crate in what looks to be an asphalt parking lot. I ask her what she's going to do, and she tells me she really doesn't know, she's so scared and stressed. Still doesn't ask me for more money. At this point, I believe her story about over sleeping, she had been yawning all throughout the previous video call and mentioned she hasn't slept before I even gave her any money. I tell her I'm going to send her money for 1 more night, but I want her to call me so we can talk about what her options are to make this work, and I send her $200.
At this point, I'm driving home from my errand, but I decide to take a wide detour and swing by the hotel she's at in Annapolis. I was going to check on her and talk to her in person, buy some food for her and her kids, and tell her this is the last time I can help until she can figure something out. During my drive, she's using the $200 to check back in and move her stuff back into her room. About 30 min later, she tells me they refused to honor last night's rate, it's now $260. And she says her phone is at 4%, which implies her phone is going to die so I need to send her money now.
Around this time, I'm right around the corner from where she's supposed to be. I am getting bad feelings, it's starting to be fishy. I drive up to the parking lot 2 minutes after she said her phone is at 4%, and ask her where she's at, in the lobby or still outside in the lot. She says outside still, in the parking garage with her kids, pets, and all her stuff. I ask her to confirm her address, and she does. I tell her I'm in the parking lot, I don't see her. I know she's been scamming me the whole time now.
This is when she explodes. Starts ALL CAPS yelling at me in text about how I'm a creep and a stalker, why would she ever give her real address to some man on the internet. Gaslights about how I'm a weirdo, etc. I tell her thanks for reminding me never to trust people online, and block her.
I really thought I was wise to the scams, but she got past my defenses. First, she video chatted and was super agreeable and reasonable on the call, not like normal cash-first scammers that demand it like you owe them. She also never asked for money once during either of the times she said she was in trouble. She even volunteered that she would figure it out herself, and it would be solved and we'd be able to meet up for a normal arrangement. It was only when I was driving to her that she started putting pressure for more cash and implying it had to be quick since her phone was dying.
Still could be that she's legit, just a crazy ***** who is now homeless. IDK, blocked her on everything.
She's not crazy, you just got took.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6115833][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/295b9886-2951-42fd-bfa7-5eec4287b916[/URL]
Summary: either a scammer, or just too plain crazy and in a ridiculous situation, arrangement would never work.
Long Story:
Hit her up, responded pretty well on SA. Moved to text after a couple chats back and forth, totally normal. I asked her for a verification photo holding up 3 fingers, and she asks for a video call instead. We do a Snapchat video call, she's real and not a catfish. Said she was in a hotel, no money left and nowhere to go with her and her 2 kids, a dog, and 2 cats. However, she did not ask for money. She specifically said she'll try and figure it out, it should only be temporary until she can get back to work, then we can meet up because she'll be able to hire a babysitter.
I wanted to meet sooner, and I felt bad since she was a real girl in hard times, and she didn't seem like a scammer since nowhere did she ever ask for cash. I tell her I usually don't send money before meeting, and she said she can def relate, she hears there's tons of people scamming online and she understands I have to protect myself.
At this point, I thought I could trust her. I asked her how much it was to extend for another day, and she tells me $138. I make plans with her to meet the next day I ask her what she's comfortable with, and she mentions no anal, nothing with BDSM or pain, and we have to use protection. I tell her condoms are a deal breaker since I can't cum with one on, I have tests from less than a week ago to show her. She says "Okay, since you're trusting me by sending money, I'll trust you when we meet up. ".
We talk about the allowance, settle on 400 PPM. She also asks for money to book a baby sitter, said she has 2 kids and it's $25/ hr / kid, so $50/ hr. I tell her she can pay when she picks the kids up, I'll give her money in person, but she says it's some sort of online service where you have to book in advance. In hindsight, I should've questioned this, but because she seemed so reasonable on the call up to then, I didn't demand to see a receipt or screenshot or anything. I send her $150 for 3 hours. We then make plans to meet up at 7 AM because I had to be somewhere in PA by noon. We'd get breakfast and hook up. I told her I'd text her at 6 AM since she's an hour away from me, I want her to confirm before I head out. I remind her to set her alarm and charge her phone.
6 AM the next morning rolls around, she doesn't respond to my texts. 11 AM, when her checkout time is, and she sudden responds mortified that she slept through 3 alarms, and didn't wake up until the front desk was banging on her door for 5 min cause they needed her to leave. I tell her "what do you want me to say" and she gives me a sort of sorry, sort of mad response that she only slept 3 hours due to her kid waking up, she didn't sleep for 2 days before because she's stressed about her situation, sorry she's a single mom and trying her best, etc.
I hit her up at 4 PM after I finished running my 12 PM errand, and tell her if she can find a way to meet up, I can still take care of her. She says she can't, nobody to watch the kids. I ask her where she's currently at, she says in the parking lot of the hotel, and sends me a pic of her cats in a crate in what looks to be an asphalt parking lot. I ask her what she's going to do, and she tells me she really doesn't know, she's so scared and stressed. Still doesn't ask me for more money. At this point, I believe her story about over sleeping, she had been yawning all throughout the previous video call and mentioned she hasn't slept before I even gave her any money. I tell her I'm going to send her money for 1 more night, but I want her to call me so we can talk about what her options are to make this work, and I send her $200.
At this point, I'm driving home from my errand, but I decide to take a wide detour and swing by the hotel she's at in Annapolis. I was going to check on her and talk to her in person, buy some food for her and her kids, and tell her this is the last time I can help until she can figure something out. During my drive, she's using the $200 to check back in and move her stuff back into her room. About 30 min later, she tells me they refused to honor last night's rate, it's now $260. And she says her phone is at 4%, which implies her phone is going to die so I need to send her money now.
Around this time, I'm right around the corner from where she's supposed to be. I am getting bad feelings, it's starting to be fishy. I drive up to the parking lot 2 minutes after she said her phone is at 4%, and ask her where she's at, in the lobby or still outside in the lot. She says outside still, in the parking garage with her kids, pets, and all her stuff. I ask her to confirm her address, and she does. I tell her I'm in the parking lot, I don't see her. I know she's been scamming me the whole time now.
This is when she explodes. Starts ALL CAPS yelling at me in text about how I'm a creep and a stalker, why would she ever give her real address to some man on the internet. Gaslights about how I'm a weirdo, etc. I tell her thanks for reminding me never to trust people online, and block her.
I really thought I was wise to the scams, but she got past my defenses. First, she video chatted and was super agreeable and reasonable on the call, not like normal cash-first scammers that demand it like you owe them. She also never asked for money once during either of the times she said she was in trouble. She even volunteered that she would figure it out herself, and it would be solved and we'd be able to meet up for a normal arrangement. It was only when I was driving to her that she started putting pressure for more cash and implying it had to be quick since her phone was dying.
Still could be that she's legit, just a crazy ***** who is now homeless. IDK, blocked her on everything.[/QUOTE]For someone that says they never send money up front, you sent at least $350 to her without so much as touching a nipple.
And to be honest, the whole swinging by the hotel to buy her and the kids supplies sounds noble at first, but why would she want a stranger that she really doesn't even want to fuck (c'Mon.! They don't or rarely do it for your personality!) possibly around her kids? That is a bit creepy.
She's in no way Legit. She's just an advanced scammer. I have a former SB that pulled the same crap on me. Was out of town. Gave me a sob story about her bad situation. Let me play the fatherly figure and give her advice, and didn't ask for cash but said she'd find a way to soldier through it. I sent her like $50. Then I caught on. She tried several variations afterwards but I didn't cave.
Also I see how you might have been taken in by the video / pic of the cats outside, but this is the Tik Tok generation. It's nothing for people to have props and footage ready to go. They do it for imaginary likes online, they'll do it for money.
I really don't mean to slam you or anything, but this reeked from early on.
It happens to most of us here and there, even if we're normally vigilant. Chalk it up to the game.
The new formula is *spot nice guy / sucker + sob story minus asking for cash + letting your good nature / suckerdom and little head do the work = cash money*.
