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Good for holding firm
[QUOTE=SlowBlo;4843504]AG wanted my full name, Email address, cell phone number, work number and company name and company email, copy of my drivers license with address covered and picture of a credit card with only the number covered up and my Linked in profile. I told them to stick it up their ass. I work in secure government facilities all the time and never go through so much bullshit. I was in the Pentagon today. I have asked, on occasion, when working at the DOJ or FBI about sex trafficking and all the Asian agencies. They all say the same thing. We know who they are and where they are but just don't have the manpower or sometimes the jurisdiction, Federal vs. State, to bust them. Something tells me they are just waiting to find the big fish and it will go away.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed previously on this forum, but there's absolutely no reason a provider or agency needs your personal identifying information (PII). I use a burner phone for hobbying since I use my regular cell phone in the course of my employer's business. The last thing I need is to have any questionable texts or strange numbers come up when I'm with my co-workers. My PII is none of the provider's damn business; the same is true for agencies.
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[QUOTE=DarkRanger00;4843195]I wasn't thrilled about the amount of screening at AG either. I gave them the info though, all in the first email back after they asked for it. I think it would be difficult to put all the info together in a fake manner, looking back on it. After I sent everything in, they asked for an email (to a different Gmail account) from my work email (that matched my business card) that just had my name as the subject. A few minutes after I sent that email, they texted and asked for my name. Once I gave them all that, boom. Done. Saw Ella this morning as a result.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SlowBlo;4843504]AG wanted my full name, Email address, cell phone number, work number and company name and company email, copy of my drivers license with address covered and picture of a credit card with only the number covered up and my Linked in profile. I told them to stick it up their ass. I work in secure government facilities all the time and never go through so much bullshit. I was in the Pentagon today. I have asked, on occasion, when working at the DOJ or FBI about sex trafficking and all the Asian agencies. They all say the same thing. We know who they are and where they are but just don't have the manpower or sometimes the jurisdiction, Federal vs. State, to bust them. Something tells me they are just waiting to find the big fish and it will go away.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TomMcAn;4844112]This has been discussed previously on this forum, but there's absolutely no reason a provider or agency needs your personal identifying information (PII). I use a burner phone for hobbying since I use my regular cell phone in the course of my employer's business. The last thing I need is to have any questionable texts or strange numbers come up when I'm with my co-workers. My PII is none of the provider's damn business; the same is true for agencies.[/QUOTE]This is what I've been saying for months yet there have been PL's defending this and trying to poke holes in my reasons for this being absurd. Funny how they're all quiet now LOL.
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The issue is
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;4844112]This has been discussed previously on this forum, but there's absolutely no reason a provider or agency needs your personal identifying information (PII). I use a burner phone for hobbying since I use my regular cell phone in the course of my employer's business. The last thing I need is to have any questionable texts or strange numbers come up when I'm with my co-workers. My PII is none of the provider's damn business; the same is true for agencies.[/QUOTE]That it seems only a small % of people are refusing to give out PII.
Seeing so many posts that talk about how PII was provided to get verified makes me wonder if that has set the expectations of these agencies to get PII no matter what.
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Avoid Barbara at CP
Out of all my years of seeing kgirls, I had my worst experience with Barbara. The DD (Natural) caught my attention. I found some old reviews on here and they were quite positive so I decided to see her. Her pics [URL]https://www.clubparadiseusa.com/nikki-lv[/URL] are from about 30 lbs ago. No way in hell is she 110 lbs. She has a bit of a gut, her face is much rounder, and it looks like she just really let herself go. No shower preview, no b2 b glide. I'm sure if I didn't speak Korean she would've been very curt with me. I actually purposefully don't speak Korean for the first few minutes to see how a girl is. Afterwards she has me lay face down on the bed for a massage to warm things up. Always a great start. I admit it was nice feeling her big boobs gliding over my back. After the flip she immediately goes for BBBJ. Pretty good, but definitely not on the same level as recent all stars like Samantha and Jane. She asks me if I'm ready and I tell her to lay down first.
This is where it immediately goes downhill.
As I'm about to go in and kiss her, she immediately moves her head away. I'm super surprised. I ask her if she doesn't kiss and she says she does, but because of covid, she wants to avoid it. She tells me that I'm the first client to actually try to kiss. In my mind, I'm thinking that if you're that paranoid then we should be wearing masks too while we're at it. This is a huge turn-off for me. I love to kiss and for me it helps build chemistry. It's sort of a hallmark for GFE service especially kgirls. But it is what it is. So I go down to really enjoy those huge boobs. Before I go in she tells me to be gentle. No problem. So I'm being super soft with them. Barely sucking on them. Not even 20 seconds later she pushes my head over to the other one. So I play with the other for like 20 seconds and she keeps repeating to be gentle and soft. My mouth isn't even on her boob at this this point, I'm like hovering on top. She then pushes my head down. Literally spent less than a minute with her boobs. So I get to her pussy and it's just an unshaven thicket. Coarse hair and all. I start to DATY and she says that's not how she likes it. I say okay, tell me what you like. She tells me to stay where I am and she tries to move her entire body to position my tongue where she likes it. So she positions herself and I start DATY at the spot that she likes it. Not even 30 seconds later does she start complaining again. My tongue hasn't moved from the spot that she positioned herself and she's complaining again. I just sort of give up.
I'm completely turned off and it takes a lot of lube to get me off. I should've left once she started complaining, but I just tried to soldier on. She then has the audacity to give me a lecture on being a better "lover. " She tells me how I need to be more in tuned with what girls like. Please, you barely gave me a chance. And then she says how girls know the first time they kiss how things will go. Ummm, you wouldn't even give me a peck on the cheek. It was super condescending.
This is by far the worst experience I ever had with a kgirl. I've had better experiences at VIP and RS in GB. Avoid avoid avoid Barbara. I asked some of my kgirl friends if they know her and one said she worked with her in NYC. She said that Barbara has a bit of an attitude and that her glory days are long gone. Which is funny because Barbara was bragging about how she goes for $450 in NYC.
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[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4844292]That it seems only a small % of people are refusing to give out PII.
Seeing so many posts that talk about how PII was provided to get verified makes me wonder if that has set the expectations of these agencies to get PII no matter what.[/QUOTE]Your point of view is respected, but does not reflect the reality of these problems.
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Tyler on Eros
Has anyone seen Tyler on Eros? No reviews at I can find, but she seems legit. Any info appreciated.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/5930406.htm?cat=6208&wn=1[/URL]
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Ella at AG
So, I was originally scheduled to see Vikki yesterday, but got a text in the morning that said it was her day off. She asked if I wanted to see Ella or Cherry in Tyson's corner. I decided to TOFTT and saw Ella. Overall – great experience!
She texted me the address, and once there, got the code to go in the complex. Parked, then got the instructions to find the apartment. Ella (who is tall & thin) greeted me wearing a very tight & revealing dress. Dropped my shoes by the door and made our way to the bedroom. Laid the donation ($3 / 1 hr) on the dresser, and it was game on!
Ella likes to kiss and was good at it! I haven't DFK'ed a provider like that in a long time! We spent some time making out like high school sweethearts, and the clothing came off a little at time. Once out of the dress (with no panties or bra on underneath) my hands began roaming. She stopped me and said "shower first". So, blue toast and shower time! Once in the shower, she soaped me up and paid good attention to junior, then had me turn around and was stroking me from behind and underneath. She then soaped herself up and started rubbing her tits all over my back while she continued stroking me. She had me turn around and repeated the rubbing, including some time with junior between her tits! Then it was rinse / BBBJ / BLS preview time. She spent some time on her knees in the shower and almost made me pop there, so I stopped her, and excused myself to dry off.
She finished, and helped me finish drying off, then off to the bed. I decided to lay face down and see how things went. I wasn't disappointed! She started lightly rubbing my back then started rubbing her tits on me, then started with kisses from my back to my knees, then back up to my ass, where she spread my legs and started rimming me. I got up on my knees a bit, and she took the cue to start BBBJ from underneath, alternating between that and rimming. After some enjoyment with that, she had me flip and continued the BBBJ. She couldn't take it all, but she was enthusiastic, with lots of spit and eye contact! Once I was close to popping again, I had her sit on my face so I could DATY. She was bald and tasted excellent! She wouldn't let me FIV but was okay with playing outside.
After DATY, she got me ready for CG, but started by lubing me up and grinding on me P2 P, simulating BBFS. I couldn't take it anymore and had to be inside her, so she put the cover on and proceeded to ride me pretty enthusiastically in CG, where I popped in the bag! She asked if I could go again, but it had already been 40 minutes, and I doubt very highly I could go again. We showered together again, and I dried off / got dressed. She helped me get my shoes on, and gave me a light kiss, and I was out!
I'm not 100% sure she was the person in her photos, but it was pretty close. I'd definitely repeat with Ella, but also looking forward to giving Vikki a go!
Happy Hunting fellas!
[URL]https://www.asiangem.live/gallery/60[/URL]
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Barb
[QUOTE=BoobyHunter;4844406]Out of all my years of seeing kgirls, I had my worst experience with Barbara. The DD (Natural) caught my attention. I found some old reviews on here and they were quite positive so I decided to see her. Her pics [URL]https://www.clubparadiseusa.com/nikki-lv[/URL] are from about 30 lbs ago. No way in hell is she 110 lbs. She has a bit of a gut, her face is much rounder, and it looks like she just really let herself go. No shower preview, no b2 b glide. I'm sure if I didn't speak Korean she would've been very curt with me. I actually purposefully don't speak Korean for the first few minutes to see how a girl is. Afterwards she has me lay face down on the bed for a massage to warm things up. Always a great start. I admit it was nice feeling her big boobs gliding over my back. After the flip she immediately goes for BBBJ. Pretty good, but definitely not on the same level as recent all stars like Samantha and Jane. She asks me if I'm ready and I tell her to lay down first.
This is where it immediately goes downhill.
As I'm about to go in and kiss her, she immediately moves her head away. I'm super surprised. I ask her if she doesn't kiss and she says she does, but because of covid, she wants to avoid it. She tells me that I'm the first client to actually try to kiss. In my mind, I'm thinking that if you're that paranoid then we should be wearing masks too while we're at it. This is a huge turn-off for me. I love to kiss and for me it helps build chemistry. It's sort of a hallmark for GFE service especially kgirls. But it is what it is. So I go down to really enjoy those huge boobs. Before I go in she tells me to be gentle. No problem. So I'm being super soft with them. Barely sucking on them. Not even 20 seconds later she pushes my head over to the other one. So I play with the other for like 20 seconds and she keeps repeating to be gentle and soft. My mouth isn't even on her boob at this this point, I'm like hovering on top..[/QUOTE]That's funny. You should have seen her 5-6 years ago. True tenpro back then but she has not taken care of herself for sure.
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[QUOTE=BoobyHunter;4844406]Out of all my years of seeing kgirls, I had my worst experience with Barbara. The DD (Natural) caught my attention. I found some old reviews on here and they were quite positive so I decided to see her. Her pics [URL]https://www.clubparadiseusa.com/nikki-lv[/URL] are from about 30 lbs ago. No way in hell is she 110 lbs. She has a bit of a gut, her face is much rounder, and it looks like she just really let herself go. No shower preview, no b2 b glide. I'm sure if I didn't speak Korean she would've been very curt with me. I actually purposefully don't speak Korean for the first few minutes to see how a girl is. Afterwards she has me lay face down on the bed for a massage to warm things up. Always a great start. I admit it was nice feeling her big boobs gliding over my back. After the flip she immediately goes for BBBJ. Pretty good, but definitely not on the same level as recent all stars like Samantha and Jane. She asks me if I'm ready and I tell her to lay down first.
This is where it immediately goes downhill.
As I'm about to go in and kiss her, she immediately moves her head away. I'm super surprised. I ask her if she doesn't kiss and she says she does, but because of covid, she wants to avoid it. She tells me that I'm the first client to actually try to kiss. In my mind, I'm thinking that if you're that paranoid then we should be wearing masks too while we're at it. This is a huge turn-off for me. I love to kiss and for me it helps build chemistry. It's sort of a hallmark for GFE service especially kgirls. But it is what it is. So I go down to really enjoy those huge boobs. Before I go in she tells me to be gentle. No problem. So I'm being super soft with them. Barely sucking on them. Not even 20 seconds later she pushes my head over to the other one. So I play with the other for like 20 seconds and she keeps repeating to be gentle and soft. My mouth isn't even on her boob at this this point, I'm like hovering on top. She then pushes my head down. Literally spent less than a minute with her boobs. So I get to her pussy and it's just an unshaven thicket. Coarse hair and all. I start to DATY and she says that's not how she likes it. I say okay, tell me what you like. She tells me to stay where I am and she tries to move her entire body to position my tongue where she likes it..[/QUOTE]Also, I am surprised you don't recognize photo shopped pics. Her pics are actually quite new. The mismatch with reality is from P.S. Not time!
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Tyler on Eros
[QUOTE=AdcFellow;4844548]Has anyone seen Tyler on Eros? No reviews at I can find, but she seems legit. Any info appreciated.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/5930406.htm?cat=6208&wn=1[/URL][/QUOTE]I think I answered my own question. My spidey sense was tingling, but when she started to ask me explicit questions about out meet-up, I decided to bail. Be careful with this one, seemed like a set-up.
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Barbara
[QUOTE=BoobyHunter;4844406]
This is by far the worst experience I ever had with a kgirl. I've had better experiences at VIP and RS in GB. Avoid avoid avoid Barbara. I asked some of my kgirl friends if they know her and one said she worked with her in NYC. She said that Barbara has a bit of an attitude and that her glory days are long gone. Which is funny because Barbara was bragging about how she goes for $450 in NYC.[/QUOTE]How the mighty have fallen. Once upon a time, Barbara was my favorite kgirl, but my recent experiences with her have been similar to yours. I actually saw her this past Saturday and it was one the worst performances I've ever received by a k girl. Did you speak Korean to her? If so, you may have made things worse. She's told me she hates Korean men and from what I've gathered she doesn't have good memories of her time in Korea. When I first saw her she did have an attitude but later warmed up to me and her performances vastly improved. She was GFE, lfk, daty, and let me suck her nice tits. However, sometime at the beginning of last year she just let herself go. Not just physically, but her performances just went to hell. No kissing, no daty and GFE just disappeared.
I think that she just doesn't want to do this anymore but this is the only way she can make a living. I remember she used to visit for 2 weeks at a time but starting last year she would only visit for 1 week at a time. Its a shame because her face is beautiful and she used to have a very nice body. There are providers who are naturally affectionate, you can tell by your interaction with them, like Sira or Venus from Cvip. Barbara is not a naturally affectionate person. I don't mean this as a pejorative, that's just how she is Even when she did do GFE with me, I could tell she was forcing it. I hadn't written a review on her because she had positive reviews and I thought it was just me who was getting the bad performances.
Barring some unexpected occurrence, ast Saturday was the last time I'll see Barbara.
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[QUOTE=LuckyLuciano00;4845648] I hadn't written a review on her because she had positive reviews and I thought it was just me who was getting the bad performances.
Barring some unexpected occurrence, ast Saturday was the last time I'll see Barbara.[/QUOTE]You guys need to read reviews more closely. She has been the literal definition of "YMMV" since she first came to VA 6 years ago. Some guys love her and have good chemistry with her, and for some other guys. She can't disguise her disdain for them. That dynamic is documented on this board as well as several other boards.
It is a sad truth that she has aged a lot in the last 3 years.
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ELLA at AG
Tried Ella. Boy I really learned the meaning of Asian crapshoot. I really wanted to walk out of there. Physically she was not the picture in the photos. Her face reminded me of older looking mature Korean woman with bad teeth. She tells me that she is popular among white guys but she is not popular with Asian guys. I am a Korean-American. We tend to prefer more looking girl, white skin. Besides her face Her body was not bad. I did not like her smell. I guess I need to get older fast before I enjoy this hobby.
Face: 2/10.
Body: 8/10.
Service: 8/10.
Overall I have not been impressed by quality of beauty in asiangem. Service is not bad so I cannot complain too much. You definitely saw some beauty in Lotus when they were around.
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[QUOTE=TooNin;4844853]Also, I am surprised you don't recognize photo shopped pics. Her pics are actually quite new. The mismatch with reality is from P.S. Not time![/QUOTE]Those pics are most definitely not new. Like I said, those pics are from a good 30 lbs ago. Most of the kgirls I've seen match the bodies that are in the pics. I don't really even give the faces much care. But in the case of Barbara, it's not even close. She has a full on gut now, legs aren't slim, and just overall chunkier. If you haven't seen her recently, I'm not sure why you're commenting.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuciano00;4845648]How the mighty have fallen. Once upon a time, Barbara was my favorite kgirl, but my recent experiences with her have been similar to yours. I actually saw her this past Saturday and it was one the worst performances I've ever received by a k girl. Did you speak Korean to her? If so, you may have made things worse. She's told me she hates Korean men and from what I've gathered she doesn't have good memories of her time in Korea. When I first saw her she did have an attitude but later warmed up to me and her performances vastly improved. She was GFE, lfk, daty, and let me suck her nice tits. However, sometime at the beginning of last year she just let herself go. Not just physically, but her performances just went to hell. No kissing, no daty and GFE just disappeared.
I think that she just doesn't want to do this anymore but this is the only way she can make a living. I remember she used to visit for 2 weeks at a time but starting last year she would only visit for 1 week at a time. Its a shame because her face is beautiful and she used to have a very nice body. There are providers who are naturally affectionate, you can tell by your interaction with them, like Sira or Venus from Cvip. Barbara is not a naturally affectionate person. I don't mean this as a pejorative, that's just how she is Even when she did do GFE with me, I could tell she was forcing it. I hadn't written a review on her because she had positive reviews and I thought it was just me who was getting the bad performances.
Barring some unexpected occurrence, ast Saturday was the last time I'll see Barbara.[/QUOTE]The more I think about it, a part of me thinks that I shouldn't have revealed I was Korean. But even then, I'm sure it still would've sucked. After my session, I talked to a few kgirls that I know and one of them worked at the same place she did in NYC. She also agrees that Barbara has an attitude and can be quite condescending. I think a part of it has to do with region as well. I was talking to Jiji at CVIP and she's an NYC kgirl. She mentioned how NY guys really are just wham-bam-thank-ma'am. They really don't care too much about the the overall GFE-kgirl experience and really just want to get their nut. While that might be part of the reason why Barbara's attitude is crap, still doesn't justify all the other crap she said and did during my session.
I spoke to CP's booker and she was very apologetic. Seems like she's also frustrated that Barbara would be afraid to kiss, but still have be okay having sessions. Sort of defeats the purpose. Booker said she wants to get rid of Barbara soon and not have her come back. She did say that Paniya will be here until the 25th and a new girl from LA will be here on the same day as well. Hopefully the new girl will be a good addition.