"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Hal1957;5904595]Change everything!

No one knows for sure how they identify you, but just about everything associated with your SA account can be tracked. The phone has a unique IMIE or MEI number. The SIM chip has a unique number. It also has a unique MAC address. Your computer has a unique MAC address. Your internet provider gives you a unique IP address. Your wireless router has a unique MAC address. Your modem has a unique MAC address. Your credit card is unique. Your photos can be identified through facial recognition.

Change everything.

If you ever manage to get a new account, stay off the radar. Don't engage in pissing contests with other users. Nothing to be gained unless you have an innate need to get in the last word. Just block them and move on. Why block? Because she can change her user name in about 5 seconds and her photos in about 1 minute and continue scamming while appearing to be a different person.[/QUOTE]This is all great, except, a majority of what you've listed isn't visible or obtainable by SA. Therefore, there's no need to change. I really hope this is satire.

Anyway, Seeking is a business. They want two things like any business: money and low LE involvement (to stay in business). All the tips, tricks, and fools errands people run to "stay anonymous" is what actually stands you out right next to the real criminals that also leverage the platform.

Top reasons people likely get banned: hotlinking from this site or others like it, using a VPN, vanilla credit cards, or sheer blatant misuse.

Depending on who you are attempting to hide from. It's best to do it in plain sight.

Never have I encountered anyone so impossible to pin down, changed agreed on contribution, location, service, you name it, forever. Finally told her to walk into traffic. If you can put up with that kind of flakiness you're a better man than I.

Curious. In what way are her teeth jacked?

Every few months or so, I entertain the idea of seeing her, then I re-read the reviews and decide to go elsewhere. That body is just so phenomenal, though. LOL. Anyway, in all the pics I've seen of her (even the ones off SA), her teeth don't look too bad, but she only shows her teeth from far away. Never close up. So, was curious to know how bad it is.

[QUOTE=SalvatoreIttup;5905411]I definitely see where you are coming from, but at the very least, consider holding out slightly longer with negotiations. Mandy for example, especially with her messed-up teeth and long list of rules is nowhere near $600, and she knows this because she used to be (still is?) a straight escort. When she came at me with $600, I countered with $200, and she still only came down slightly initially, but a week later I tried again and she was over my house for $350. I still felt ripped off afterwards, but not nearly as bad as if I would have paid any more than that. In Atlanta, there are so many affordable options to get off that the girls on Seeking don't have that much leverage. I paid $220 yesterday to get a table shower, solid full-body massage, rimming, CBJ, and CFS at a K-spa, and felt it was way worth it. Giving outrageous $$$ to some of these entitled girls who think they're doing us a favor doesn't make a whole lot of sense.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eslide3;5905515]Never have I encountered anyone so impossible to pin down, changed agreed on contribution, location, service, you name it, forever. Finally told her to walk into traffic. If you can put up with that kind of flakiness you're a better man than I.[/QUOTE]That broad is on here, and reported me. Told me not to share her info, suddenly I'm booted off seeking. Take caution with this one.

[QUOTE=BrownSugaTwo;5905647]Curious. In what way are her teeth jacked?

Every few months or so, I entertain the idea of seeing her, then I re-read the reviews and decide to go elsewhere. That body is just so phenomenal, though. LOL. Anyway, in all the pics I've seen of her (even the ones off SA), her teeth don't look too bad, but she only shows her teeth from far away. Never close up. So, was curious to know how bad it is.[/QUOTE]She has what looks a lot like a meth mouth, though I can't confirm that she has been or still is an actual meth user. Her personality was like an airhead, but not necessarily high. I actually enjoyed talking to her a lot more than some of the other girls off of Seeking with terrible attitudes, but that still in no way justifies $600. Body was nice, BBBJ was fine for me, and she took the D ok, but now that she's off of my bucket list, I'll never see her again for anything more than $250 at the most.

Are you a programmer? I'm not, I have to go on what I've heard, read and experienced. I know a couple of months ago when they began the big change, I couldn't log in for several weeks because I had my browser set to incognito, blocking cookies and removing everything on exit. I just don't like being tracked around the universe by inquiring minds. None of their fucking business where else I've been. Opened SA in a different browser and voila, no problems. Other users reported unable to log in if they were using certain VPNs.

Conclusion: Their web site can query your browser.

Read the reports from people who have been banned. Change the email address, still banned. Change the phone, still banned. Change the credit card, still banned. Change the photos, still banned. Change everything, no more problems.

Conclusion: Anything that has identifying tags can be traced back to your banned account and you will be banned again. But the people who changed everything were able to create new accounts.

So if you've got it all figured out, good for you. If you don't have it all figured out, change everything.

[QUOTE=Machintosh;5905487]This is all great, except, a majority of what you've listed isn't visible or obtainable by SA. Therefore, there's no need to change. I really hope this is satire.

Anyway, Seeking is a business. They want two things like any business: money and low LE involvement (to stay in business). All the tips, tricks, and fools errands people run to "stay anonymous" is what actually stands you out right next to the real criminals that also leverage the platform.

Top reasons people likely get banned: hotlinking from this site or others like it, using a VPN, vanilla credit cards, or sheer blatant misuse.

Depending on who you are attempting to hide from. It's best to do it in plain sight.[/QUOTE]

I get it too, in the interest of time, I left out all the details of our negotiations. I promise you I beat up Mandy over the ppm for a few hours leading up to the meet. Also keep in mind I was only in Atlanta that evening and the next morning and didn't have anything confirmed yet after dozens of fakes and flakes. I knew she wasn't going to take less than 450 so it was my decision to take the deal. Hearing that she's been. An escort tells me she knows the game. BTW, after I paid valet at my hotel, I only took 425 and she was cool. So I held out, and I wouldn't repeat because of price, but, except for the teeth and constant gagging during the BJ, not a bad roll in the sack.

I think what is getting lost in all of this is TIME. Perhaps not Mandy, I'll as she was clear she had to be at work a certain time but all of my experiences have been on my time. I decided when it was over. So when you account for the time to chit chat, have a drink or two, and allow her to become comfortable, it ends up being a significantly better experience. This is the true difference, to me, from the escorts. They don't watch the clock and you can likely get much more mileage out of them. 425 sucks for an hour but had I had 2 pops and tons of foreplay over 3 hours, that's a bargain to me. As it was for the Brazilian that keeps texting me how much she want to suck my cock again.

[QUOTE=SalvatoreIttup;5905411]I definitely see where you are coming from, but at the very least, consider holding out slightly longer with negotiations. Mandy for example, especially with her messed-up teeth and long list of rules is nowhere near $600, and she knows this because she used to be (still is?) a straight escort. When she came at me with $600, I countered with $200, and she still only came down slightly initially, but a week later I tried again and she was over my house for $350. I still felt ripped off afterwards, but not nearly as bad as if I would have paid any more than that. In Atlanta, there are so many affordable options to get off that the girls on Seeking don't have that much leverage. I paid $220 yesterday to get a table shower, solid full-body massage, rimming, CBJ, and CFS at a K-spa, and felt it was way worth it. Giving outrageous $$$ to some of these entitled girls who think they're doing us a favor doesn't make a whole lot of sense.[/QUOTE]

The teeth were kinda gapped, a little jagged, and slightly discolored. The pictures are definitely flattering. I would revisit at $2. 5 but that's likely never going to happen.

[QUOTE=SalvatoreIttup;5905742]She has what looks a lot like a meth mouth, though I can't confirm that she has been or still is an actual meth user. Her personality was like an airhead, but not necessarily high. I actually enjoyed talking to her a lot more than some of the other girls off of Seeking with terrible attitudes, but that still in no way justifies $600. Body was nice, BBBJ was fine for me, and she took the D ok, but now that she's off of my bucket list, I'll never see her again for anything more than $250 at the most.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5904415]Ben working the Atlanta scene for a month knowing I'd be here this week. Lots of scammers, no surprise but I actually found three here DTF on short notice.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c4ab345a-b3f8-4aef-814f-29a4d4e9aa30[/URL]

Hit this one up on the drive down after she didn't respond a month ago. Hit me back right away, anxious to prove she was real. Lots of back and forth but when several others proved to be scam or ghost, she panned out. She sent photos and I could tell the profile pics were flattering to her but when she actually showed up, she looked better than the pics. Got to know each other and got down to biz. Hit all the positions including BBBJ. BJ was very soft (almost too soft) but she tried working on her gag reflex. Almost took it all, LOL. Was willing to stay for round two but it was my bedtime. Not a bikini model but very cute, tight, and enthusiastic. Good value, started at 6 bills but landed on 3. Asked me to wear a cover but wanted me to put it in bare during the deed (I don't swim in that river, LOL), but some of you do I know).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee606935-2963-4ce6-aeab-7764fdb503ec[/URL]

Mandy is a good communicater with a regular job. Thought it was TGTBT but turn out real. Her body look a lot like the pics but her teeth are a little jacked for what appears to be a pretty face. Told me ahead of time what she will do and won't do. Not a kisser, no Greek, likes vibrator but not fingers, and BB oral both ways. I showed up to seem she's cute but not as cute as photos. Apartment was trashed, smelled like old cat litter, and I left smelling the same. Not bad but I was out in an hour after dropping 4. 25 (she wanted 6). BBBJ was terrible..[/QUOTE]I've been curious about #3 for a while, so I appreciate the work. Also #1 the Brazilian. So again, thank you for the effort.

Stayyyyyyy frosty!

Has anyone had any success hooking up on the Sugar Daddys site? I've paid for credits and get a so so photo access and then nothing. Seems a scam site and wonder if anyone else has had success?

To you and anyone that post their experience in an effort to inform the rest of the members. Unlike others, you appreciate the intelligence so you can decide for yourself with out burning down the person proving the information. That's what we're here for, information on these ladies so we may make better decisions. Good luck, happy hunting, and as always, YMMV.

[QUOTE=WoodstockShane;5907045]I've been curious about #3 for a while, so I appreciate the work. Also #1 the Brazilian. So again, thank you for the effort.

Stayyyyyyy frosty![/QUOTE]

"she" is a scam. She wanted 400 ppm and also an extra 100 to pay the babysitter and we all know how that goes.

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;5903134]Here is a winner for you boys, in her profile pic she has nut all over her face. Now that's how you advertise! LMAO.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d881846f-770c-4449-892d-bb40aa69dab5[/URL]

FYI, I did not chat with her, I only noticed the pic cause she favorited me. Most likely a fake. But have fun with it![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ferocious1980;5904694]Used to have fun with this one a couple years back and seen she just got back with a new profile. Was cheap when I met her but now going for around $200+.

Too rich for my blood but I'm sure some of you rich guys would love to pay that. Not a bad lay but her blowjobs were average at best. BBFS / bbj was on the table but be aware she has like 3 kids so pull out, LOL. Also she will nag you about sending money until you cut her off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad03ca9f-87db-4dd7-ba6d-1359b6378952[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh yeah this one for sure is easy. Fucked her and her friend. Both aren't tight but they will fuck for sure. BBFS no problem.

[QUOTE=MichTransplant;5909365]Has anyone had any success hooking up on the Sugar Daddys site? I've paid for credits and get a so so photo access and then nothing. Seems a scam site and wonder if anyone else has had success?[/QUOTE]You might want to specify the specific site, so we know which one you are using. There are tons of sugar daddy sites. I've personally never used a site that uses credits to use it, way too many scammers in this scene, you would blow your money just weeding through the crap. Stick with the ones that you pay for a month of service. [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and [URL]sugardaddymeet.com[/URL] are the two I've used. Seeking is the big boy, you get the most traffic, but also the most scammers. SDM isn't too bad, just a lot less traffic, so its harder to find someone.

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;5912932]You might want to specify the specific site, so we know which one you are using. There are tons of sugar daddy sites. I've personally never used a site that uses credits to use it, way too many scammers in this scene, you would blow your money just weeding through the crap. Stick with the ones that you pay for a month of service. [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and [URL]sugardaddymeet.com[/URL] are the two I've used. Seeking is the big boy, you get the most traffic, but also the most scammers. SDM isn't too bad, just a lot less traffic, so its harder to find someone.[/QUOTE]Based on your advice, I thought I would try out SugarDaddyMeet. However, as I tried to establish my account, they require you to send them a photo of your DL, and the only thing you can blank out is the actual license #. All of your other personal info is in their hands. I am married, there is no f*in' way I can give this to join a site.