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[QUOTE=Yakuzi]I have been youtube ing and on the international guide and I have to say I might have to give it a (another) shot. Anyone got any Tiajuana info. Looks nice![/QUOTE]
Isn't that what the international guide is for? Unless there is a Tiajuana, Alabama I don't know about.
[QUOTE=Whorehound38]Where did you see her ?[/QUOTE]
I saw her walking her usual strip in Avondale. WH if you'd like more specific details pm me and I can give you location of where she is staying.
[QUOTE=Clark Kent]Down below where you post a reply, there's a section that says Additional Options. In that section it says Manage Attachments. Click on that and there you can upload any pictures you have on your computer. If you post via cell phone and are wanting to know how to post pics via cell phone, then someone else will have to help with that as I have no camera phone.[/QUOTE]
Thanks CK for those instructions they may come in handy in the future. But I was needing instructions for uploading from a camera phone. I'm sure I've seen where someone has posted pics from a camera phone and I would love to post some pics. I am going to see the bsw Red sometime today and I'll take some pics and hopefully I'll be able to post those pics later.
[QUOTE=Drsmooth1]Thanks CK for those instructions they may come in handy in the future. But I was needing instructions for uploading from a camera phone. I'm sure I've seen where someone has posted pics from a camera phone and I would love to post some pics. I am going to see the bsw Red sometime today and I'll take some pics and hopefully I'll be able to post those pics later.[/QUOTE]
Unless you have internet access through your phone, you're probably going to have to get a cable that connects to your phone to the USB port on your computer. My s.o. has a camera phone and has been filling it up with pics, but had no net access on it, plus no cable to connect to the computer. Over the weekend, a friend showed us we need drivers on the computer for the camera phone connection just like you would a digital camera, plus a USB cable that connects to the same port you'd use to charge the phone's battery. At least that's how it works on her phone. Each phone's more than likely different as to how it would work, though.
Each camera phone I have had for the last 5 or 6 years allowed me to send messages to email addresses. So, what I do is send a message to my own email address and attach any picture stored in the phone's memory. Once that is done I store the picture(s) on my hard drive and treat them as any other digital photo.
This afternoon I cruised on the west side of town and found no action (at least none worth picking up) in the Snitz Snyder Stadium area.
On my drive back to town - I pulled into the Ace Motel and spotted an ugly as hell WSW standing outside a room near the back of the place. She was dressed like a Hooters girl (orange and white outfit) but - again - looked like hell.
I told her I'd give her a couple of bucks if she could steer another girl my way that was to my liking - she loped down the row of rooms like a drunken baboon and then brought out a girl named Kristi. She was a young WSW with a very cute face - though slightly overweight (and not in a good way). Think a cuter version of Lacey/Carley plus forty pounds. Adequate BBBJ for the usual price.
Oh and Kristi's room smelled like someone had just poured a gallon of 409 onto her floor.
Have seen several ladies in that area. Never saw a beauty queen though. Come to think of it, not many beauty queens in Bessemer. However, when you do find a decent looking girl she is usually a bargain. Probably can not find one whose life is not dedicated to the next rock. Damn shame that shit runs their lives. As for me, too old and cynical to try to reform anyone. We all have our vices--for some it is the crack rock and for others just the crack. If they were not fighting the monkey they would all want escort prices. Of course some are lucky to get SW prices unless the dude is either very drunk or it is very very dark.
[QUOTE=Make It Good]Isn't that what the international guide is for? Unless there is a Tiajuana, Alabama I don't know about.[/QUOTE]Was asking if any of the guys on this forum have ever gone anywhere outside the U.S. recently and had good experiences. Guess I wasn't specific (or simple) enough.
Yeah, there's been a blonde girl hanging out on Bessemer Road by the Ace most nights I pass by there. I've seen girls walk between there and the other motel down past the bowling alley frequently. It's hit and miss down that way lately it seems.
Around 6:30 this morning there was a decent looking WSW just west of Ace. Appeared late 20's, dark hair to shoulders and nice sized body (not BBW). No time to investigate but she looked good enough at 50 MPH to look again when time allows.
[QUOTE=Ginal]Around 6:30 this morning there was a decent looking WSW just west of Ace. Appeared late 20's, dark hair to shoulders and nice sized body (not BBW). No time to investigate but she looked good enough at 50 MPH to look again when time allows.[/QUOTE]
That's another of the girls that walks back and forth around that area. The blonde appeared recently, but the dark haired one has been in that area for over a month.
Any of you guys know anything about the larger brunette lady thats often seen sitting on that big slab of concrete next to the bus stop by the Bama Hotel in Woodlawn ? Not exactly "fat", maybe you might say "thick".
I drove by a few times made eye contact, and she kept motioning for me to pull into the Bama, but I'm not about to just pull over in the parking lot there and suddenly have to explain to detectives what I'm pulling over for or anything like that.
I've seen police busting people right there in that particular spot before, so I'm not taking any chances.
I've seen this girl several times in the last few weeks, always right in that same spot. I was going to pull up across the street and take her picture, but she disappeared.
Anyone know anything ?
[QUOTE=Whorehound38]Any of you guys know anything about the larger brunette lady thats often seen sitting on that big slab of concrete next to the bus stop by the Bama Hotel in Woodlawn ? Not exactly "fat", maybe you might say "thick".
I drove by a few times made eye contact, and she kept motioning for me to pull into the Bama, but I'm not about to just pull over in the parking lot there and suddenly have to explain to detectives what I'm pulling over for or anything like that.
I've seen police busting people right there in that particular spot before, so I'm not taking any chances.
I've seen this girl several times in the last few weeks, always right in that same spot. I was going to pull up across the street and take her picture, but she disappeared.
Anyone know anything ?[/QUOTE]
That's Tracy, WH. She's been around there for years. You can always tell it's Tracy because she loves sitting on that concrete slab, and has for years. Back in the 90's when she was younger, she looked like Monica Lewinsky to me, and made me actually pick her up several times because of it. She's lived in a house on the block over from the Bama, and also lived in a house on 1st Avenue South as well in the years she's been around there. She was a rush and a bad date back then, and used to want to park in the most god awful places. I haven't messed with her in close to 10 years. The last time I picked her up, she proceeded to tell me she had a bad rash that was painful around her crotch area. That was my last time being interested in her as I was not interested to find out what the rash was.
Look at this page from the Atlanta PD, it's a huge page relating to vice arrests and the pics of those arrested. I find it humorous the trannies are clumped into the category of 'hustler' the same as regular thugs also pictured there. Not surprisingly, they have a mixed bag same as we do here, but lots more pretty, young girls like I like. I see alot there I'd love to come across on my semi-annual trips over there.
[url]http://www.atlantapd.org/index.asp?nav=vicearrests&menu=8[/url]
Anyone have any info on a wsw named Summer working the American?
I picked up a WSW named Summer yesterday near the Sky motel. She was approx 30-35 dirty blonde shoulder length hair, nice size body (almost spinner size) and was missing two fromt teeth. I didn't notice that till she was in the truck. She gave me this story about needing money ofr a room and all. Wanted 45 but I said 40 was all. I told her I didn't pay up front, she said I could go in with her to make sure the money went on the room so we went across the street to the American. So I stepped into the office and she started asking the girl for a room. Aperently she still owed them 10 from the night before and she wanted to give them 40 now with the rest by 3 - it was around 11 now. She had already been giving me this big story of how she treats her customers good, she's not like the other girls, that's why she is still in the business, you know the line of sh@#.
We got in the room and got down to business. She started with head and started the rush. She was taking deep breaths because she wanted me to jump to full hard in a few seconds. She got me about half hard and rolled over. I managed to get it in and start pumping it. Then more rushing. I could have made it last a long time but was tired of hearing her ***** so I shot the load and got dressed. She had the nerve to ask for $5 or even a couple of bucks when we got done. I said NO and that she shouldn't rush me.
Little did she know that I would be posting a nice informative report on her and her rushed service. I would not recommend her to anyone.
[QUOTE=Clark Kent]Look at this page from the Atlanta PD, it's a huge page relating to vice arrests and the pics of those arrested.[/QUOTE]
I liked the charge of "escorting without a permit." And did you see that two women were arrested as a John? Look for SEEMEKA and LATIA.
[QUOTE=Make It Good]I liked the charge of "escorting without a permit." And did you see that two women were arrested as a John? Look for SEEMEKA and LATIA.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, makes me wonder if they mislabelled them, unless they were trying to pick up a tranny, lol you never know. The pics all reminded me of a mixture of what we have here, thugs, nasty SWs, an occasional attractive BSW or WSW, even the trannies, lol. I'm surprised the vice don't post a page like that here, but then that would take time away from their strong arm style tactics and less time to collect their weekly SW fucks to keep the SW out of jail.
[QUOTE=Notnine]She had already been giving me this big story of how she treats her customers good, she's not like the other girls, that's why she is still in the business, you know the line of sh@#.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like the common line those type girls give, and who knows, she might actually think that's treating customers good. This is why I never do anything in a motel, and always try to bring them somewhere away from their comfort zone to get the deed done. What's funny is that describes to a T the type shit they all say, even the asking for more money when it's done. That's how Robin did me about 10 years ago, and she made the mistake of leaving the money I gave her on the nightstand. When she said we were done she went in the bathroom, so I subsequently took the majority of my money back and left her the amount I felt she had earned and took off. People want to post 'rules' elsewhere, but it all takes actually having things happen to you to know how to handle situations like this.
I saw a young, blonde (short hair), thin WSW out on 1st yesterday - she looked cute from the view from my car. I was interested in her, but unfortunately she was accompanied by her black "business manager."
Why don't these guys get away from the girls, don't they realize they are hurting their business??
[QUOTE=Bhm Guy]I saw a young, blonde (short hair), thin WSW out on 1st yesterday. She looked cute from the view from my car. I was interested in her, but unfortunately she was accompanied by her black "business manager." Why don't these guys get away from the girls, don't they realize they are hurting their business? [/QUOTE]I believe she is the same one I saw in the parking lot of the American, looked good from behind so I pulled into the parking lot and sat outside the row of rooms where she was headed, no one flagged me down, then I saw this Summer girl in a room at the end of the parking lot motioning from her window, unlike Notnine I got an unrushed BBBJ cim, .40 I guess this is another case of YMMV. She does ask for the money up front but didn't ***** when I said no. Wanted a tip at the end, but all she got was another no. Would really like to see that first blonde girl again. She was in the row of rooms on the right as you pull in.
[QUOTE=Bhm Guy]I saw a young, blonde (short hair), thin WSW out on 1st yesterday - she looked cute from the view from my car. I was interested in her, but unfortunately she was accompanied by her black "business manager."
Why don't these guys get away from the girls, don't they realize they are hurting their business??[/QUOTE]
I learned my lesson about picking up SW with guys hanging around them or waiting for them a while ago. There used to be this WSW named April who was a small spinner type that used to walk on 1st. I picked her up one time and we went back to the place I used to carry them, and all she could talk about was having to be back real soon because her guy was there waiting for her. When we finally got back, she had the nerve to ask me if I'd give them a lift to Gate City. I guess they think we have no issue with the dudes. Sure some of them might just really be out there with them and not intending on ripping anyone off, but there's so many out there who are that you can't take the chance. Plus, for me if I see a girl walking with a guy, even if I see them alone later I'm probably not going to deal with them, because they're always going to be in a hurry wanting to get back to the thug.
I will be near Leeds Ala racing at Barber Motorsports Park. Saw the link to the AMP and Lucy seems to be my type. Is she still there? But it may be further of a drive that I want to make after the busy days.
Are there any Petite, Asian or Caramel or Latin treats to dine on out towards Leeds that have incall?
Thanks and Wet Dreams , PW
[QUOTE=Pwhipped]I will be near Leeds Ala racing at Barber Motorsports Park. Saw the link to the AMP and Lucy seems to be my type. Is she still there? But it may be further of a drive that I want to make after the busy days.
Are there any Petite, Asian or Caramel or Latin treats to dine on out towards Leeds that have incall?
Thanks and Wet Dreams , PW[/QUOTE]
She was there as of last week. But you never know with these places. It's honestly not that far, especially in Bham miles vs Atlanta miles.
You can check out CL and BP for girls in Leeds but since Stacy hasn't been posting for a good long while I don't know of any Leeds girls. If you do spot her she's one to see. Personally I would just make the trip to Y and save yourself some hassle.
[QUOTE=Bhm Guy]I saw a young, blonde (short hair), thin WSW out on 1st yesterday - she looked cute from the view from my car. I was interested in her, but unfortunately she was accompanied by her black "business manager."
Why don't these guys get away from the girls, don't they realize they are hurting their business??[/QUOTE]
This is the same girl I saw several nights in a row a couple of months back. I think Clark saw this same girl walking along MLK a few weeks later. Yesterday I saw her, she has a short hair cut, she was wearing a pink shirt and knee-length grey dress pants. I even stopped next to her at a red light and asked her if she needed a ride, but she declined. Then a older black man pulls up 50' away and asks if she needs a ride and she jumps in. She is a very cute girl, with a thin build.. I don't get it, she must just be into black men or something. When I saw her a few months back, she was acting weird/scared and also had a shadow with her most of the time. Yesterday she was walking between Mcdonalds and I-20. I saw her at lunch, then again after work yesterday afternoon.
Also, there seems to be a lot of girls at the American, but they are not coming out of their room, they all come to the windows when you pull in there. I usually like to get the room numbers then go to a payphone and see if they will walk down to the store.
[QUOTE=Make It Good]She was there as of last week. But you never know with these places. It's honestly not that far, especially in Bham miles vs Atlanta miles.
You can check out CL and BP for girls in Leeds but since Stacy hasn't been posting for a good long while I don't know of any Leeds girls. If you do spot her she's one to see. Personally I would just make the trip to Y and save yourself some hassle.[/QUOTE]I have never seen or heard anything about Leeds.Could you or anyone post the link or give some info about what's happening in Leeds.Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=Fast & Furious]This is the same girl I saw several nights in a row a couple of months back. I think Clark saw this same girl walking along MLK a few weeks later.[/QUOTE]
Are you meaning the girl I saw on Arrington Blvd by the Rooter Tooter ? If that's her, I believe she lives in the neighborhoods back behind the Rooter as I used to see her there waiting on the bus when I'd ride through in the daytime.
I saw what I believe is the same cute short haired blonde WSW Wed. I was pulling into the American when I saw her coming down the sidewalk. I waited in the parking lot and she came in. I was just scouting for my return trip thru town later in the afternoon and didnt have time for play right then. She got in the truck and started saying how hungry she was. wanted to give me head for $10. I told her in a couple hours I would be back. She kept on begging, kinda winpering. Said she would give me sex for $10. I kept saying in a while. She wanted to give me a sample right there in the truck. Then she asked for $5 for food again. She got out and went up the stairs to the second floor as I was leaving. The werd thing was she had a good black eye ans a bandage on her left forearm. Said she was raped and beat up a few nights ago. Funny no one else has mentioned the black eye, it wasn't noticable until she got in the truck. She was nowhere to be found when I came back thru town later that afternoon.
I picked up this BSW named Sonya aka tee tee. She has a niece little body. About a 7 on a 1 to 10 scale. I picked her up down the street from the Shell's gas station, and took her to her room at the Anchor Motel. She asked for 30 but I gave her 20. She was bragging about how she gets down, so I said we will see. We got to the room and she took her clothes off. She has a very nice ass. We started the CBJ session and three minutes into it she was asking me was I ready to cum. She started jacking me off. I told her I didn't pay for a hand job (If I wanted a hand job I could have stayed at home) She kept on rushing me, so I pulled my pants up grab the 20 I gave her which she left on the table; gave her 8 dollars and left. She followed me yelling, so I pulled my gun out and told her to get away from me. She ran back in the room; as I pull out of the parking lot and see a police car that has pulled over another car. I'm glad he didn't see me pointing a gun at Sonya. 1st Ave never was a good place to pick up SW for me. The only good experience I had was with pug nose Kim. Three 3 or 4 months ago. I've had great experiences with SW on 3rd Ave W and the projects off of lomb ave. Any suggestions on other areas other then 1st Ave?
[QUOTE=Clark Kent]That's Tracy, WH. She's been around there for years. You can always tell it's Tracy because she loves sitting on that concrete slab, and has for years. Back in the 90's when she was younger, she looked like Monica Lewinsky to me, and made me actually pick her up several times because of it. She's lived in a house on the block over from the Bama, and also lived in a house on 1st Avenue South as well in the years she's been around there. She was a rush and a bad date back then, and used to want to park in the most god awful places. I haven't messed with her in close to 10 years. The last time I picked her up, she proceeded to tell me she had a bad rash that was painful around her crotch area. That was my last time being interested in her as I was not interested to find out what the rash was.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. Yeah I sort of almost met her the other day. I had a room at the Bama with another girl and when my date left, I decided to hang around and take a nap and watch a movie.
Within 2-3 hours, I had met Tracy and a cute black girl named Tina. Tracy called my room on the phone, Tina walked up and knocked on the door. Didn't date either one of them though.
One thing I learned, there is an easy way to get date - get a room at the Bama, sit down and wait for the phone to ring or a girl to knock on your door and ask.
I think there are actually two short haired blonde girls around that area now. I saw both of them on Thursday, didn't date either one though.
[QUOTE=Oldbamaman]Once I went to a cemetary with a SW and was banging her outside my car in broad daylight while people were visiting gravesites. One time I connected with this girl off of a Quest chat line. She wanted me to chew on her nipples. She wanted them to bleed. I was biting down hard but that wasn't good enough for her and that kinda freaked me out so I split.[/QUOTE]
So I had a recent experience in broad daylight with a spinner. There is this out of the way spot under a bridge with a concrete table and benches. Had someone happened onto us there was nothing we could have done to hide, but there was little chance of that happening. It was exhilarating doing it outdoors in broad daylight as we could hear the birds singing and cars passing above us on the bridge. And there I was with a beautiful view of her grinding and bouncing... generally having a good time getting off. Note to self: let's do that one again.
[QUOTE=PeteŽ ParkeŽ]So I had a recent experience in broad daylight with a spinner. There is this out of the way spot under a bridge with a concrete table and benches. Had someone happened onto us there was nothing we could have done to hide, but there was little chance of that happening. It was exhilarating doing it outdoors in broad daylight as we could hear the birds singing and cars passing above us on the bridge. And there I was with a beautiful view of her grinding and bouncing... generally having a good time getting off. Note to self: let's do that one again.[/QUOTE]
Outdoors in a semi-public place is always hot as hell. Kink is now doing a public disgrace series where most of it is outside. Hot as hell!!
[QUOTE=Alamassage1]I have never seen or heard anything about Leeds.Could you or anyone post the link or give some info about what's happening in Leeds.Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]
I said that I DON"T KNOW of any girls in Leeds since Stacy/Stacey stopped posting on CL. It's been a 6-months since I've seen her or seen a post by her.
So again, there isn't anything going on in Leeds that I'm aware of!
[QUOTE=Dnet Dnet7813]I picked up this BSW named Sonya aka tee tee. She has a niece little body. About a 7 on a 1 to 10 scale. I picked her up down the street from the Shell's gas station, and took her to her room at the Anchor Motel. She asked for 30 but I gave her 20. She was bragging about how she gets down, so I said we will see. We got to the room and she took her clothes off. She has a very nice ass. We started the CBJ session and three minutes into it she was asking me was I ready to cum. She started jacking me off. I told her I didn't pay for a hand job (If I wanted a hand job I could have stayed at home) She kept on rushing me, so I pulled my pants up grab the 20 I gave her which she left on the table; gave her 8 dollars and left. She followed me yelling, so I pulled my gun out and told her to get away from me. She ran back in the room; as I pull out of the parking lot and see a police car that has pulled over another car. I'm glad he didn't see me pointing a gun at Sonya. 1st Ave never was a good place to pick up SW for me. The only good experience I had was with pug nose Kim. Three 3 or 4 months ago. I've had great experiences with SW on 3rd Ave W and the projects off of lomb ave. Any suggestions on other areas other then 1st Ave?[/QUOTE]
Is this the Sonya you're talking about ?
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I posted a topic a few years ago which tells several areas in the area to look for SW. Most of the places I'd recommend are in that. I'd look around West End and Bessemer. They both seem to be fairly good places lately. I wouldn't let one experience get you down on 1st Avenue, though. All areas are going to have girls like that, and everybody's experiences vary with girls. Spiderman and I, for example have had very good experiences with Sonya, if that is the Sonya in the pic you're meaning. And pug nose Kim, she's done me worse than what you described about Sonya doing to you, so it just varies by person. Oh, speaking of pug nosed Kim, she's currently in the slammer. Look under Isbell. My 'Where to find SW' link is below.
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[QUOTE=Clark Kent]Is this the Sonya you're talking about ?
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I posted a topic a few years ago which tells several areas in the area to look for SW. Most of the places I'd recommend are in that. I'd look around West End and Bessemer. They both seem to be fairly good places lately. I wouldn't let one experience get you down on 1st Avenue, though. All areas are going to have girls like that, and everybody's experiences vary with girls. Spiderman and I, for example have had very good experiences with Sonya, if that is the Sonya in the pic you're meaning. And pug nose Kim, she's done me worse than what you described about Sonya doing to you, so it just varies by person. Oh, speaking of pug nosed Kim, she's currently in the slammer. Look under Isbell. My 'Where to find SW' link is below.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5345[/url][/QUOTE]That's her. Like I said she has a nice body. I guess I just caught her on a bad night. She said she had a room mate, so I guess that's why she was trying to rush me. If I go back on 1st again I will not go back to their room.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dnet Dnet7813]That's her. Like I said she has a nice body. I guess I just caught her on a bad night. She said she had a room mate, so I guess that's why she was trying to rush me. If I go back on 1st again I will not go back to their room.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Going to someone's room is always a bad idea. I've said many times you should take a girl to a place you feel comfortable bringing them, preferrably far away from the stroll. If you go to their room, you're setting yourself up for rushed or interrupted service, because if there's any other girls around they know to call or knock. If you bring her away from there, even if you just park somewhere, they're more likely to do what you pay for than try to get out of it. Sonya does try to do things quickly, but she does tend to make sure you get off, at least with me she did. She was the one who made sure I knew she did anal now, and she has such nice legs it makes me want to try it.
[QUOTE=Clark Kent]Going to someone's room is always a bad idea. I've said many times you should take a girl to a place you feel comfortable bringing them, preferrably far away from the stroll. If you go to their room, you're setting yourself up for rushed or interrupted service, because if there's any other girls around they know to call or knock. If you bring her away from there, even if you just park somewhere, they're more likely to do what you pay for than try to get out of it. Sonya does try to do things quickly, but she does tend to make sure you get off, at least with me she did. She was the one who made sure I knew she did anal now, and she has such nice legs it makes me want to try it.[/QUOTE]
I'll vouche for her past service with me. She will rush you if you let her, but if you let her know you aren't with that once she will calm down and get to business. She does give a mean BBBJCIM and there is/was anal on the menu. She is a trooper and will take a pounding, she's all about making sure she gets paid and hopefully having you come back so she can have a steady stream to feed her habit. Getting her away from 1st Ave is always your best bet with her, if you have a place you can take her she is worth the time and pick up fee, other wise she'll have you trying to park in someone's yard or out in the open and that spells a rushed session or a visit from uncle LEO.
I will keep my eyes peeled for her next time I'm in town.
Has any one tried the on line generic viagra that has the big banner ad on this site.
[QUOTE=Ginal]Has any one tried the on line generic viagra that has the big banner ad on this site.[/QUOTE]
There's a forum under the special interests section on the main page about viagra and the generic versions of it, even discussions about a few websites to buy them from. There's someone locally who I saw posting on there about it so I asked them about it through a PM and never heard a reply back. They later had some attitude on the public forum here about something I said to an ignorant poster a few months later, so maybe they just had some issue with me and didn't want to reply to me or something, who knows. Either way, the forum discusses in detail about the generic stuff and it's comparisons to the real thing. I've thought about ordering it but some there on the other forum had gotten bad pills and had somewhat of a problem getting a refund. Also, it's not exactly something I'd feel comfortable doing myself, being that you have no idea how legal all that is. The pills are supposed to be the same exact thing as viagra, just the chemical name for them, and viagra requires a prescription if I'm not mistaken. I just don't know if I'd want some generic pills which are supposed to require a prescription in the US coming to my house. They're tough on pills nowadays and their 'abuse' factor. I like pain pills but I wouldn't order anything like that online. As for an obtainable substitute for the generic viagra, there's a behind the counter pill at most gas stations called Stamina RX which works for me. It's in a blue pentagon shaped container, and the pills are blue themselves. They're about $3 for 2 of them but they also come in a 6 pack I think. I generally take one and it works for me. It gives you an awful headache later but it does do it's job beforehand.
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I usually split one of those in half Clark and take it with a Aleve. Still gets your blood pressure up though. I have ordered the generic and yes it works but call and order a one time order or they will put you on auto ship every month!