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[QUOTE=Golden3; 1503133][QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1499680]O. M. G. W. T. F. That was Callie in that mugs hot. She looks awful! If I saw her on the street looking like that I would think she was a skank to be avoided. I had several members here warn me about her and her families (mother & brother) drug use. But as many of the members who were promoting her and using her service, it looked as if she was keeping up her appearance's. That mugs shot is a tremendous downhill slide she made. That looks like years of abuse and serious drug use. Is that really her. Man see looks Awful.

This is my second post about Callie, because I think my first post got lost in cyber space. So if it appears at some point this is additional to it.

What did Callie get busted on. Was it just drug use or SW work or both. Man Callie was a Fox in her better days, and she had some really Great Legs. Those were the kind you can form a Legz Fetish on with nice ankle & feet. The woman just had a Sex Body, so I am glad she posted Pix of her in her Hey Days!

You know Callie was on many members Bucket List even on the Bucket List for many LE. Yea they trick out with many SW's on the side until they are caught. They bargain with them and settle for Sex to avoid arrest. Ask most SW's they all have stories, but have little proof, yet they all give the same names and stories.

Callie is still advertising:

[url]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pure-satisfaction-30/8695564[/url]

Obviously not using current pictures. Is she out on bail or what? Too bad, I had some good times with her.[/QUOTE]She had been on my list also but I had gotten real close to one of her friends and all my resources went to her for some months. I hope she can get it going again because she seemed like one very organized, ambitious and professional girl. Those earlier pics were a knockout. Please post any new info about her if you find it especially if it is good news. I think others here would love to hear something good, especially the former, lucky clients.

Saw Callie the other day, not in a "professional" capacity just driving by her place near where I was working. She was in the fenced, front yard walking her dog. It took me a minute to even recognize her. How sad. She is barely a shadow of her former self. I truly hope she gets some help for whatever is consuming her. She was a stunner in her prime. OK. She did not have a huge rack but the rest of her was damn-near perfect. As I read the recent posts about her, I ponder whether her decline was more a function of her profession or some addiction. Must the two always go together?

Callie; if you are still reading the Guide, I hope you get some help. Whether you continue in this profession or not, I hope you find a way to regain your health and your natural beauty. My guess is that your pickin's are slim right now. Seek help, please. I know all of us want to see you restored to the healthy, happy, beautiful person you were once and can be again.

Too much to read. Can someone please publish a summary of this post. You know. The "Cliff Notes" version.

[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1500289]To:Curvy Crissy,

First of all lets establish what are who you are. Are you doing ligit work or are you doing SW work. I got the feeling you are doing ligit business and if that is the case then the whole post doesn't even apply to you. If that is the case I will go on as best I can, and if you ARE an SW, then other parts of my post may or may not apply to you.

Many women are entering the SW trade, with the idea, that they need no skills, other than having the ability to have sex for sale, they are often out of shape, unattractive, no verbal or oral skills, are not really good at SEX to begin with and really don't want to be in the SW trade (Only for the Money) , keeping in mind they don't want to have SEX with numerous men to begin with.

As a women you better keep in mind that that is exactly what you are going to do, and from that point you can never go back, and this game can be a scar on you mind as well as life, forever. Your Rep can follow an SW forever, and it will stay with you into all your life. You will be hard pressed to get any real Respect as a person, and it will be twice as BAD from the Women who know what you've done.

Some can shake it, other can't. Too many of these women are only looking at the MONEY end of the business / trade, thinking they will make some quick money and get out. Other are on drug, and they have a totally different reason for their involvement in the SW trade.

The real issue is that some of the women in the higher end SW business are fooling themselves. If you clients have told you or called you, many of the members here have PM'ed me, and others who know me have called to say some SW, they came to visit was nothing what she said or advertised she was. Then after that person walks in his mind is in the Stay or Run mode. Most decide to roll / bounce, on them, and to put the SW on Blast via PM's or Post. A few decide to stay, because they are there anyway, but unless this SW has some real SEXUAL Talents, most won't repeat. Of course I will always admit, we as Men will often screw any woman, but that often applies to FREE SEX, not PPV (Pay. Per. View). Old, Young, Blind, Cripple, Crazy, as long as it is FREE, often we will take it. If we didn't we have had to have a GUT feeling telling us not too. And very often we are glad we didn't.

Many young women can jump in and out of the SW game simple because they are young and I will say young up to 25y / o and for some 26-29y / o maybe 30. Men are Loving that, but it is a quickie business for the most part, and few end up as long term providers. And with older men they can keep their side game quiet, and behind them. So they use the chat-line to arrange dates, most than the BP or Escort ads. This way they jump in and out. I used the chat-lines myself and often ran into some dimes #10 at a bargain, and some #3's that want big money, because someone told them what they had been giving away for FREE they should be charging for, and that real SW's are asking for $$$.

If you have a Fetish for Big Breast, Butts, Hips, Legs, and More, you then look for SW's to feed your need. And if they happen to have what you want, and are attractive too, you might be will to,"Pay the Cost to be the Boss." If the SW's is unattractive, then it is according to how that Fetish works for you on her. Is she worth spending your,"Hard Earned Money On."

As you said, you have to pay for your groceries, will so do we. So getting our Money's worth is even more IMPORTANT.

We aren't always making Doctors or Attorney's money. Some of us have to sit aside our Money to pay for SW's, and that means we often have to save and put that money aside. So we can't always get to an SW' every week. For some only once a month.

Paying our bills always comes first, then there is savings for other more important needs. If anything is left, then maybe we can go to an SW, who we can afford. So getting Rip-Off, Deceived, Played, Taken Advantage Of, Dissatisfied, and More is NOT An Option.

This is not something you can report to the Police, or lodge a complaint about. So the risk or just as great for the client, as it is for the SW. If anything goes wrong it's a Crap Shot who will come out on top, and I have NEVER Heard of any SW giving money back if a client is dissatisfied or unhappy with the service provided. The serving grace of most Clients is to WARN everyone else who comes into contact with that SW provider, and that will hit her right in the pocket. Here are some far worse things he can do, but I wrote write about those. But they always work very well, and have been a thorn in the sides of many a Bad SW provider.

I have a been with a SW who works right out of her home, who has 44-48 DDD's breast. O. M. G. And she has big nipples too, and she is inexpensive, to me, and if she did not have big breast, I would not be interested. She is not really unattractive, but she is very over-weight. She knows her Big Breast are her key to fame, and a fetish to men like myself. She has a very good client list, and is now asking for more money, because of her popularity. She is a good Lay too, and she has a great sense of Humor, and she really does Love Sex & Loves Men. For her she is really getting paid for what she would be doing for FREE, and she knows that once in the SW game, she knows it will follow her as a REP forever, in her SW area / city. I like her Personality, Charm, Humor, and her Sexual Skills. She really Loves giving a BJ to a Man, and she is Bi-Sexual too. She is always willing to add a woman, if you can arrange it in advance, or one is nearby.

And Women Love her. She is one of my BEST sources for other Sexy Young Women. And the cost to me is low, to me, and she know I will always give her her small % of any SW she send to me.

This is our hard earned money, thus we have to demand getting our money's worth, and if we can't get that, this we need to put as many of the SW's out there who are providing Bad / Poor / False / Deceptive service Out-of-Business as fast as we can. Or to help Hit them deeply in their Pockets.

We Too Work Too Hard To Be Ripped Off of Our "Hard Earned Money."

SW's Need Our Money Much More Than We Need Them.

Don't Get Ripped Off![/QUOTE]

I'm not sure how this conversation about SW's got started, and not sure where it's going or why it's even happening? I saw CurvyCrissy yesterday and enjoyed an hour long professional massage in a nicely arranged, candle lit room, with great articulate conversation. Her service and rates were exactly as described in her ad with no attempt to upsell. She's doing massages not selling sex and to suggest, in this forum, that she is, does a disservice not only her but to the forum itself. If you are looking for a quality professional massage, in a clean comfortable setting, with an educated personable attractive woman, you will enjoy your time with Christina. If you are looking for special sexual favors, you will likely be disappointed. I have experienced many different providers over the years and enjoyed my time with each one, often for different reasons. But as I get older, the sensuality is becoming less important to me than the therapeutic benefits of the massage. Others may have different objectives? I would repeat with Christina, because of her professionalism, skills and attitude not because of what I 'dreamed' may happen during the massage. Her name should not even be included in a blog about SW's? I certainly didn't feel ripped off, because sex was never suggested or offered. I think potential clients often read more into provider or therapists' ads, and more into the reviews, than is actually there? In every situation, YMMV, but for the most part, the reviews provide a small window into what others have experienced. Everyone, providers and hobbiests alike, should always approach a new adventure with caution and some reservation, until a 'comfort' level has been reached. Intimate details, imoho, should never be shared in a public forum where actual names, locations or pictures are included without the permission of the provider. Confusion can often cause irrepairable harm, if facts are missing or wrong. Private messages are always a better choice to compare 'notes', about more specific details, amongst 'friends'. The bottom line is that if you are not happy with the service that you receive, let the therapist know that. If she did a great job or did not perform as advertised, let the rest of us members know that as well, but be respectful and accurate in your criticism. Then, look for someone else that may be more compatibe to your particular tastes and interests. There are plenty of poor quality and overpaid workers in every trade or profession, and the sex / massage / therapy business' are no different. This board and the collection of members and their experiences provide a great deal of valuable information and hours of interesting reading and insight into this hobby. Thanks to all those members and providers that contribute in a civil, sophisticated and responsible manner.

[QUOTE=Nday Guy;1503356]Too much to read. Can someone please publish a summary of this post. You know. The "Cliff Notes" version.[/QUOTE]

I think I may have just discovered the answer to my own question, in the SW section of this forum? Apparently there is an auburn haired 'ginger' named Christina that 'walks' around Reading, that has some 'favorable' reviews? It is likely that the services of the two Christina's have perhaps been confused by some (including myself)? I have not seen the SW Christina, but would assume, by her reviews, that red hired SW has her own 'set' of favorable 'skills' that differ from the BP Christina? I can however, attest that the Christina that advertises in the BP / therapeutic massage section, is independent and legitimate, with great hands for those looking for a more discreet traditional soft touch or hot stone relaxation type massage experience by a certified masseuse. But, don't expect much more. I just wanted to clear the confusion I had, or may have created, now that I know there are two Christinas out there?

[QUOTE=Pictraders69;1503395]I'm not sure how this conversation about SW's got started, and not sure where it's going or why it's even happening? I saw CurvyCrissy yesterday and enjoyed an hour long professional massage in a nicely arranged, candle lit room, with great articulate conversation. Her service and rates were exactly as described in her ad with no attempt to upsell. She's doing massages not selling sex and to suggest, in this forum, that she is, does a disservice not only her but to the forum itself. If you are looking for a quality professional massage, in a clean comfortable setting, with an educated personable attractive woman, you will enjoy your time with Christina. If you are looking for special sexual favors, you will likely be disappointed. I have experienced many different providers over the years and enjoyed my time with each one, often for different reasons. But as I get older, the sensuality is becoming less important to me than the therapeutic benefits of the massage. Others may have different objectives? I would repeat with Christina, because of her professionalism, skills and attitude not because of what I 'dreamed' may happen during the massage. Her name should not even be included in a blog about SW's? I certainly didn't feel ripped off, because sex was never suggested or offered. I think potential clients often read more into provider or therapists' ads, and more into the reviews, than is actually there? In every situation, YMMV, but for the most part, the reviews provide a small window into what others have experienced. Everyone, providers and hobbiests alike, should always approach a new adventure with caution and some reservation, until a 'comfort' level has been reached. Intimate details, imoho, should never be shared in a public forum where actual names, locations or pictures are included without the permission of the provider. Confusion can often cause irrepairable harm, if facts are missing or wrong. Private messages are always a better choice to compare 'notes', about more specific details, amongst 'friends'. The bottom line is that if you are not happy with the service that you receive, let the therapist know that. If she did a great job or did not perform as advertised, let the rest of us members know that as well, but be respectful and accurate in your criticism. Then, look for someone else that may be more compatibe to your particular tastes and interests. There are plenty of poor quality and overpaid workers in every trade or profession, and the sex / massage / therapy business' are no different. This board and the collection of members and their experiences provide a great deal of valuable information and hours of interesting reading and insight into this hobby. Thanks to all those members and providers that contribute in a civil, sophisticated and responsible manner.[/QUOTE]

Looking for a vouched provider that does BBBJCIM that has their tongue pierced. Any info is appreciated.

Post or PM

I have seen the Christina that works around the Drake and is is good and very inexpensive. I would recomend her. Most is on the menu.

[QUOTE=Pictraders69;1504274]I think I may have just discovered the answer to my own question, in the SW section of this forum? Apparently there is an auburn haired 'ginger' named Christina that 'walks' around Reading, that has some 'favorable' reviews? It is likely that the services of the two Christina's have perhaps been confused by some (including myself)? I have not seen the SW Christina, but would assume, by her reviews, that red hired SW has her own 'set' of favorable 'skills' that differ from the BP Christina? I can however, attest that the Christina that advertises in the BP / therapeutic massage section, is independent and legitimate, with great hands for those looking for a more discreet traditional soft touch or hot stone relaxation type massage experience by a certified masseuse. But, don't expect much more. I just wanted to clear the confusion I had, or may have created, now that I know there are two Christinas out there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chillfip; 1503324]Saw Callie the other day, not in a "professional" capacity just driving by her place near where I was working. She was in the fenced, front yard walking her dog. It took me a minute to even recognize her. How sad. She is barely a shadow of her former self. I truly hope she gets some help for whatever is consuming her. She was a stunner in her prime. OK. She did not have a huge rack but the rest of her was damn-near perfect. As I read the recent posts about her, I ponder whether her decline was more a function of her profession or some addiction. Must the two always go together?

Callie; if you are still reading the Guide, I hope you get some help. Whether you continue in this profession or not, I hope you find a way to regain your health and your natural beauty. My guess is that your pickin's are slim right now. Seek help, please. I know all of us want to see you restored to the healthy, happy, beautiful person you were once and can be again.[/QUOTE]* * * * * I haven't been on this site in I don't even know how long so I had no idea I was being TRASHED on. I'm glad I got a call yesterday from some one letting me know. Its a shame people have nothing better to do then to rag and trash on other people. I don't know who you saw but it wasnt me I moved and haven't been at that location in months. * * * * *

Hey Guys,

I met this girl at a bar and she is trying to raise some money for a trip to FL on Mon. 22, gorgeous blue eyes. 42D, thick body, enthusiastic, and available for only tonight and tmrw. She lives on West side, Delhi, and doesn't have a room. BBBJ, CFS, I spent a Grant and took her back to my place which was close. Call or text Michelle, she will have pics. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

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Hey Guys, If interested, there is a sweet girl. 22, thick. 42DD, bright blue eyes, and fun, who is trying to raise some money to get back to FL on Mon. BBBJ, and CFS for a Grant. She doesn't have a place and is on the West side in Delhi. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] Michelle.

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Cute girl, thick, in town until Mon. 23, thick, bright blue eyes, dark hair, on west side, no place to play, doesn't drive. Gave her a Grant, went back to my place. Fun, enthusiastic, BBBJ, cfs. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] Michelle.

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Directed at the admin? Sounds interesting? Anyone care to share a short version is seen it before deleted?

I do not see a Provider Request topic so I figured I would post this here. For any provider looking for a Verizon phone, I have a Droid Bionic in great shape that I am willing to barter for. PM me if interested.

If this kind of post is against the rules then just let me know and I'll delete it.

-BigBird69

Does anyone know how what the website for indies is and could they send me the link info.

Thank you Silk.

[QUOTE=JessiePleaser; 1506487]Does anyone know how what the website for indies is and could they send me the link info.

Thank you Silk.[/QUOTE]This should be it!

[url]http://www.indys.com/forum/portal.php?sid=f1861655cb9fddabcdfe5f58f737b752[/url]

Or just type "indys. Com" in your browser and it should pop up

Thanks to everyone that helped me really appreciate it hugs ad kisses silk.

[QUOTE=Bobby1862; 1508126]This should be it!

[url]http://www.indys.com/forum/portal.php?sid=f1861655cb9fddabcdfe5f58f737b752[/url]

Or just type "indys. Com" in your browser and it should pop up[/QUOTE]I go to that place maybe once a month just to see if it is still up. Talk about dead. Talk about impossible to navigate.

Okay.

This whole website is a joke.

People act like high school children.

Making up lies about eachother. Bashing the girls on here. You know who you are!

Listen I'm going to say this. I hope nobody takes offense but this is to a few people in particular.

If this is the only life you have to try and play king of usasexguide then I feel sorry for you dude because you live a sad sad sad life indeed.

Granted a lot of girls have addictions. And whatever. But they are still wemon.

Men are to have a certain amount of respect for woman I think. Regardless of the situation.

Men are to behave like gentlmen and woman like ladys. When the doors are closed then thats another story.

You have no right to treat these girls including myslef how you please.

You took me to your house and kept me there wayyy longer than you said. BULL SHIT!

Everytime I get on here you are talking crap about some girl!

You are not king of shit!

We make more money than you!

So what makes you think you have any say on here. Just like you told miss laura. You better do what I say or ill ruin you cause I have a lot of power on the USA board.

Let me say this once more. You are a pitiful man. This is the only life you have. Well let me tell you. Its a fake life. This is all about money honey. A pretend world of GFE and pse and so the hell on and so forth.

Let me see you mistreating another woman on this site and I will put your name on here.

All the things you said to me about trying to get a certain provider that starts with a see and ends with an ee hurt! And ill name drop everybody that was involved with it too. Ill tell you it was his best fri4nd and a certain provider who leeches off both of them!

No provider in there right mind will ever ever ever see you again if I tell them all the bull shit you pull.

You know who you are. So cut the shit

[QUOTE=Lilly21; 1509165]Okay.

This whole website is a joke.

People act like high school children.

Making up lies about eachother. Bashing the girls on here. You know who you are!

Listen I'm going to say this. I hope nobody takes offense but this is to a few people in particular.

If this is the only life you have to try and play king of usasexguide then I feel sorry for you dude because you live a sad sad sad life indeed.

Granted a lot of girls have addictions. And whatever. But they are still wemon.

Men are to have a certain amount of respect for woman I think. Regardless of the situation.

Men are to behave like gentlmen and woman like ladys. When the doors are closed then thats another story.

You have no right to treat these girls including myslef how you please.

You took me to your house and kept me there wayyy longer than you said. BULL SHIT!

Everytime I get on here you are talking crap about some girl!

You are not king of shit!

We make more money than you!

So what makes you think you have any say on here. Just like you told miss laura. You better do what I say or ill ruin you cause I have a lot of power on the USA board.

Let me say this once more. You are a pitiful man. This is the only life you have. Well let me tell you. Its a fake life. This is all about money honey. A pretend world of GFE and pse and so the hell on and so forth.

Let me see you mistreating another woman on this site and I will put your name on here.

All the things you said to me about trying to get a certain provider that starts with a see and ends with an ee hurt! And ill name drop everybody that was involved with it too. Ill tell you it was his best fri4nd and a certain provider who leeches off both of them!

No provider in there right mind will ever ever ever see you again if I tell them all the bull shit you pull.

You know who you are. So cut the shit[/QUOTE]I have to say I agree with you completely. Enough said.

[QUOTE=Lilly21; 1509165]Okay.

This whole website is a joke.

People act like high school children.

Making up lies about eachother. Bashing the girls on here. You know who you are!

Listen I'm going to say this. I hope nobody takes offense but this is to a few people in particular.

If this is the only life you have to try and play king of usasexguide then I feel sorry for you dude because you live a sad sad sad life indeed.

Granted a lot of girls have addictions. And whatever. But they are still wemon.

Men are to have a certain amount of respect for woman I think. Regardless of the situation.

Men are to behave like gentlmen and woman like ladys. When the doors are closed then thats another story.

You have no right to treat these girls including myslef how you please.

You took me to your house and kept me there wayyy longer than you said. BULL SHIT!

Everytime I get on here you are talking crap about some girl!

You are not king of shit!

We make more money than you!

So what makes you think you have any say on here. Just like you told miss laura. You better do what I say or ill ruin you cause I have a lot of power on the USA board.

Let me say this once more. You are a pitiful man. This is the only life you have. Well let me tell you. Its a fake life. This is all about money honey. A pretend world of GFE and pse and so the hell on and so forth.

Let me see you mistreating another woman on this site and I will put your name on here.

All the things you said to me about trying to get a certain provider that starts with a see and ends with an ee hurt! And ill name drop everybody that was involved with it too. Ill tell you it was his best fri4nd and a certain provider who leeches off both of them!

No provider in there right mind will ever ever ever see you again if I tell them all the bull shit you pull.

You know who you are. So cut the shit[/QUOTE]Very scary to see people are doing this, as a massage provider I'm glad when I was in a position with a client who hinted around that he was a respected senior member, I still didn't do anything! No other provider should either! These reviews should be used to keep eachother safe and prevent being ripped off on both sides of the table, using the board as a threat is sick, and getting people to hurt a provider is even worse. Lilly, you as a provider, if this is true? Should let this client's handle at least be known!

I know who it is.

PM for their name.

Kisses,

Molly

[QUOTE=SexyGirls; 1510762]A couple of comments, first this sounds like WDM, and if I am wrong my apologies, but there is no other member that the providers constantly complain about trying to control them.

He got the real me evicted cause I would not play ball with him.

But Lilly the providers have to stick together, if you knew a member was trying to hurt me or any other provider why didn't you PM the provider and warn them.

In your post you hint that you had advance warning that WDM, or whoever you are referring to, was going to hurt a provider.

Why would you keep than info private?

I agree that you need to disclose who this is either publically or privately to all the providers so they can stay clear of whoever this is. (not that I have the slightest doubt in my mind) [/QUOTE]I won't disclose who or what I can assure you 100 perecent that I was fully aware that nobody was going to get hurt. It was knipped in the butt. I'm not on that mess. I can tll you with confidence the situation has been handled. Apoligies were made an it won't be happening anymore. Ever. Ever. Ever again!

This board has soooo much changed over the years. For the better or worse, I am not sure. There is an big influx of not only providers and hobbists. This is not always a bad thing as it will continue the freshness of the board as seniors like me are stepping aside. My concern is the snipping, calling out and in general name calling. Newbie and Anone I am guilty of this. Still think Newbie you are a P. O. S, but I digress. (Now I am teasing you!). This board is for the betterment of those in the hobby. What I want to say is this. Keep the trash talk to PM's, or rant and raves. I am not stupid as I have been informed my name and a close friend has been a subject of discussion through assocition (JR. Where is spell check!). If I have offended anyone in the past, I am sorry. Always have spoke my mind, but will watch this in the future. Please understand that I am UTR, have close friends (men and women. Not Gay assholes!) , and really HATE anymore being brought into this mix of things. That's all folks!

WM.

[QUOTE=SexyGirls;1511430]You have a pm from me, I have no doubt what its going to say.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1511681]This board has soooo much changed over the years. For the better or worse, I am not sure. There is an big influx of not only providers and hobbists. This is not always a bad thing as it will continue the freshness of the board as seniors like me are stepping aside. My concern is the snipping, calling out and in general name calling. Newbie and Anone I am guilty of this. Still think Newbie you are a P. O. S, but I digress. (Now I am teasing you!). This board is for the betterment of those in the hobby. What I want to say is this. Keep the trash talk to PM's, or rant and raves. I am not stupid as I have been informed my name and a close friend has been a subject of discussion through assocition (JR. Where is spell check!). If I have offended anyone in the past, I am sorry. Always have spoke my mind, but will watch this in the future. Please understand that I am UTR, have close friends (men and women. Not Gay assholes!) , and really HATE anymore being brought into this mix of things. That's all folks!

WM.[/QUOTE]I have always found Wingman to be a person that I could trust implicitly. There have been many times when I have had an issue that he has helped me to resolve, both in this hobby and outside in the "real world". He has never let me down. Beside that fact, he sends me some of the funniest shit I have ever seen via my personal email. Not too long ago I took a shot at Whodey saying that he threw WM under the bus, which may not have been regarded with the humor that was intended. Truth is WDM and WMTodd are brothers by different parents, that is another attempt at humor. Part of the problem right now as I see it is that too many people are wearing their emotions on their sleeves. They just keep looking to get pissed off and interpret everything said as a vendetta against them personally. A lot of the fun on this board is gone as someone's toes are always being stepped on and then the pissing contests get started. The drama escalates into thermonuclear war and this forum sucks until it eventually subsides. I hope that soon we can all realize, except for the infiltrators, that we are all on the same team and that we had better help each other watch our backs. As always, just my humble opinion.

A friend of mine thats an escort got busted yesterday at the Extended stay america on kenwood road. I will have more information later tonight, but the first report I got from her is that the guy was a vouched for member on indys that she had seen before, that he was her second client of the day yesterday, and he turned out to be a cop. They arrested her, then a team of investigators interviewed all of the hotel workers at the hotel.

I also had another friend that avoided an arrest in newport today as the cops were headed to her room, she went out a back door and left.

So it may be coincidence or it might not be but I have informed all of my clients today to lay low and I have cancelled all of my appointments for today.

The troublesome things from what the first girl told me is that he was a vouched for member. The more troublesome thing is that she had seem him before. In any event there seems to be some things she needs to explain for it all to make sense, but the alert is to stay out of that hotel for now, and be careful in Newport.

My friends boyfriend is getting her out of the Justice center today and as soon as I know more ill post more.

Be safe.

Kat

I also noticed that my website had over 40 hits yesterday from the 'Municipal Court of Cleveland', and we all know indys is based in cleveland and got busted.

I have also noticed way less activity over there lately.

I suspect that they may have infiltrated the site completely, and are trying to turn certain people into informants (high profile hobbyists, like lawyers and doctors or anyone tied to a community-they threaten public exposure and they become LE guinea pigs, or anyone that is easily scared).

A friend in Louisville told me how he had entered a 'sting', and what he did and didn't do so that no charges would stick in court.

Just remember, if you do get arrested, don't say a thing and immediately ask to call your lawyer. They are allowed to hold you for up to 24 hrs before formally charging you I do believe, so just be patient.

Kat:

THANK YOU. One of the valuable services this forum provides is info on stings and busts. Brava for supplying such information. Extended Stay America should now be on everyone's CAUTION list.

Next. While we do not want to erroneously accuse anyone, perhaps you could provide the name of the person who vouched for the undercover guy. Maybe by PM if you don't want to publicize it. Still, all of us need to be VERY careful at recommending persons to providers, and if a mistake is made, they should hear about it.

By the same token, the indys list is iffy compared to this forum, and I do not know how trustworthy participants on that forum might be.

It is not clear from your post whether the LE guy was seen previously. If so, that should pose problems for LE. If you can get more details on how the bust went down, that would be very valuable.

So thanks for the heads up. And thanks for any additional information you might be able to provide. Such information will be helpful to both providers and to clients.

"You done good!"

Giani.

[QUOTE=KatrinaS; 1512242]A friend of mine thats an escort got busted yesterday at the Extended stay america on kenwood road. I will have more information later tonight, but the first report I got from her is that the guy was a vouched for member on indys that she had seen before, that he was her second client of the day yesterday, and he turned out to be a cop. They arrested her, then a team of investigators interviewed all of the hotel workers at the hotel.

I also had another friend that avoided an arrest in newport today as the cops were headed to her room, she went out a back door and left.

So it may be coincidence or it might not be but I have informed all of my clients today to lay low and I have cancelled all of my appointments for today.

The troublesome things from what the first girl told me is that he was a vouched for member. The more troublesome thing is that she had seem him before. In any event there seems to be some things she needs to explain for it all to make sense, but the alert is to stay out of that hotel for now, and be careful in Newport.

My friends boyfriend is getting her out of the Justice center today and as soon as I know more ill post more.

Be safe.

Kat[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KatrinaS; 1512242]A friend of mine thats an escort got busted yesterday at the Extended stay america on kenwood road. I will have more information later tonight, but the first report I got from her is that the guy was a vouched for member on indys that she had seen before, that he was her second client of the day yesterday, and he turned out to be a cop. They arrested her, then a team of investigators interviewed all of the hotel workers at the hotel.

I also had another friend that avoided an arrest in newport today as the cops were headed to her room, she went out a back door and left.

So it may be coincidence or it might not be but I have informed all of my clients today to lay low and I have cancelled all of my appointments for today.

The troublesome things from what the first girl told me is that he was a vouched for member. The more troublesome thing is that she had seem him before. In any event there seems to be some things she needs to explain for it all to make sense, but the alert is to stay out of that hotel for now, and be careful in Newport.

My friends boyfriend is getting her out of the Justice center today and as soon as I know more ill post more.

Be safe.

Kat[/QUOTE]Ignorance and Bliss.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10331-Indys-Exodus&p=1481708&viewfull=1#post1481708[/url]

[QUOTE=Brass1964; 1512469]Ignorance and Bliss.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10331-Indys-Exodus&p=1481708&viewfull=1#post1481708[/url][/QUOTE]Here is what my friend told me about her arrest. Nkki was seeing clients at extended stay America 11145 Kenwood road on Sunday. Nikki is an independent, and she is very cautious about who she sees. Let me say Nikki is a sweet girl and I have known her for years so everything she tells me I take as accurate info. I am sharing what she told me so everyone knows who the dude is that arrested her.

The guy that arrested her went by the handle MarkUsQ Cincinnati and had her call him Big daddy. He was a white male, mid 50's, bald, dark brown eyes, athletic build, deep voice, attractive for his age. He saw her three times, the third time as a VIP (whatever that means). He contacted her from a 937 number. He had a large tribal cross on his right upper arm. His first name was Mark.

Turns out he is a cop. Apprently they also arrested the client she (Nikki) was with before this MarkUsQ went into the room. They arrested the client as he came out of the room after the appointment with Nikki.

She said a team of investigators then went into the hotel, rounded up all the staff and questioned all of them.

So this dudes a rat (and may have multiple ids) , but he has infiltrated one or more of the forums and has actually seen a provider. She said this MarkUsQ is a cop and saw her twice before the arrest for oral sex, and paid for the visits.

Anyone fitting this mans description should be avoided at all costs. Anyone with an indys I'd should post this information there as well.

Everyone please be careful.

Kat

[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1511681]This board has soooo much changed over the years. For the better or worse, I am not sure. There is an big influx of not only providers and hobbists. This is not always a bad thing as it will continue the freshness of the board as seniors like me are stepping aside. My concern is the snipping, calling out and in general name calling. Newbie and Anone I am guilty of this. Still think Newbie you are a P. O. S, but I digress. (Now I am teasing you!). This board is for the betterment of those in the hobby. What I want to say is this. Keep the trash talk to PM's, or rant and raves. I am not stupid as I have been informed my name and a close friend has been a subject of discussion through assocition (JR. Where is spell check!). If I have offended anyone in the past, I am sorry. Always have spoke my mind, but will watch this in the future. Please understand that I am UTR, have close friends (men and women. Not Gay assholes!) , and really HATE anymore being brought into this mix of things. That's all folks!

WM.[/QUOTE] Any change in the board from before is a change in the actions of the people here from the actions of the people then. If the board has changed for the bad we are the ones responsible.

I think the Golden Rule applies here as it does everywhere and it is not followed here very often. I think the reason is a lack of maturity.

My words are attached to Wingman's post because of the subject of his post. My words are not directed toward Wingman other than to say I see no good in trash talk in PMs either.

It's a matter of our true character. True character cannot be faked.

[QUOTE=KatrinaS;1512242]A friend of mine thats an escort got busted yesterday at the Extended stay america on kenwood road. I will have more information later tonight, but the first report I got from her is that the guy was a vouched for member on indys that she had seen before, that he was her second client of the day yesterday, and he turned out to be a cop. They arrested her, then a team of investigators interviewed all of the hotel workers at the hotel.[/QUOTE]I did not know there were teams of investigators lurking in Blue Ash, or any of the suburbs outside the city. There were a few frequent flyers that checked in as guests at the HamCo Hilton the last two days so I'm not saying BS, but a team? As always there are more threats from within the hobby itself from rip-offs, con's and disease. Non the less, looking to more info.

Be Safe.

For what it is worth, I spoke to a couple of providers today and many of us use google voice so its easy to go back and check on a mark from a 937 number.

Come to find out another provider on this board has also seen a Mark from a 937 number and saw him at the same hotel. I have the dudes full cell phone number and will share the full number via PM with any provider or hobbyist.

I cannot post it here or Jackson would delete it.

Kat

[QUOTE=HendoKy; 1512611]I did not know there were teams of investigators lurking in Blue Ash, or any of the suburbs outside the city. There were a few frequent flyers that checked in as guests at the HamCo Hilton the last two days so I'm not saying BS, but a team? As always there are more threats from within the hobby itself from rip-offs, con's and disease. Non the less, looking to more info.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Right or wrong good or bad I just typed what she said. I did not add or subtract from what she reported to me. Its Nikkis words not mine, I just reported what I thought was a potential threat to other providers here.

If she overreacted using the word team, then I could understand her being rattled. In the end the theme of the post was to proceed cautiously.

Kat

It is refreshing to hear another monger state that.

"I don't do references or other crap like that either, mainly because it's just too much trouble in order to get laid, and if I want to go through that, I could easily get it for free anyway."

My main reason for not giving references is out of respect for the lady that has decided to share some playtime with me. Remember we are just paying for time. The rest is up to two consenting adults. If I lose a regular playmate to the challenges of the "real world", or she decides it is time to get another means of making money. I monger for another lady to take her place. References mean nothing.

My approach is to meet for a cup of coffee, or a drink (ladies preference) and I do donate for her time. If we decide to be consenting adults after that initial meeting. All is good! Just a thought for mongers and providers.

Of course this eliminates the mongers who just want to make a quick phone call to get a pop. To each there own, and I respect the hobby in whatever path it rolls.

But, to give her number to someone that I have never met? Not going to happen, period. It is a respect thing. And, respect should still be a part of this hobby. Okay, I stepped off of my soapbox. Until another time. Meanwhile.

Pleasant Dreams!

69

[QUOTE=Randyman1501; 1512988]I don't know who Lilly is referring to, though could likewise hazard a guess based on a long past I've tried to forget.

Let me just say that I've met Lilly and have no reason to believe she would make this stuff up. Unlike some others on this board who make it a habit of making their handles known to providers and trying to leverage that for discounts, control or somehow making themselves feel important, I make it a habit of not making my handle known to providers. I don't do references or other crap like that either, mainly because it's just too much trouble in order to get laid, and if I want to go through that, I could easily get it for free anyway. I think the episode of the mysterious Mark from Indys may demonstrate just how much value that vetting process has anyway vs. Providers just following some commonsense rules about how they handle themselves.

Lilly, you just go right on doing what you're doing. Any member who uses their activity on this board as a way to control providers or get discounts should be publicly called out. Period.

I know it's ridiculous to talk about ethics in a community of hos and johns. But if you all want the information on here to be worth anything at all, you should want it to be based on the facts, not on some deal some guy got or some weird power trip he's on in his sad, pathetic little world of USASG swagger.

As for Lilly, for what it's worth, she's one of the better providers around. It's too bad she's gotten caught up in the swirl of USASG drama, but this does not affect her performance, nor does she spend time trying to fish out information about your use of USASG or solicit reviews or offer deals in return for positive reviews like some providers. Unlike some other providers who've gotten involved in the drama here for less-good reasons, I think Lilly has done so for very good reason, and I admire her forit. I may repeat, though I still won't be giving my handle LOL.[/QUOTE]

Inquiring minds want to know, just what all the hullaballoo is about the greek experience? I would love to hear from both the ladies and gents about whether they enjoy it and why. Personally I don't get very excited about greek. I love vaginas! I have however, tapped the lovely backside of a couple of ladies, partly out of curiosity, partly out of an animalistic kind of dominance thing. (not to imply over stepping my bounds, mind you). And I must say that the experiences have been, anticlimactic. Cover or no, the idea of shoving my johnson in the ol' poop chute just doesn't do it for me.

Ladies, do you derive pleasure when a man takes a trip up your hershey highway?

So, please feel free to chime in ladies, and gents. What are your thoughts, and experiences with Greek?

[QUOTE=Easton 1269; 1513458]Inquiring minds want to know, just what all the hullaballoo is about the greek experience? I would love to hear from both the ladies and gents about whether they enjoy it and why. Personally I don't get very excited about greek. I love vaginas! I have however, tapped the lovely backside of a couple of ladies, partly out of curiosity, partly out of an animalistic kind of dominance thing. (not to imply over stepping my bounds, mind you). And I must say that the experiences have been, anticlimactic. Cover or no, the idea of shoving my johnson in the ol' poop chute just doesn't do it for me.

Ladies, do you derive pleasure when a man takes a trip up your hershey highway?

So, please feel free to chime in ladies, and gents. What are your thoughts, and experiences with Greek?[/QUOTE]I like the vagina. Only doen greek a few times, once recently due to a provider that asked for it. It was fine, not a whole lot different to me than doggie. I would opt for the tang myself. There is something a little purient about it so once in a while.

[QUOTE=KatrinaS; 1512940]Right or wrong good or bad I just typed what she said. I did not add or subtract from what she reported to me. Its Nikkis words not mine, I just reported what I thought was a potential threat to other providers here.

If she overreacted using the word team, then I could understand her being rattled. In the end the theme of the post was to proceed cautiously.

Kat[/QUOTE]I hear ya. Caution should be on everyones mind. Uncle Leo has teams for sure in the city. Sharonville is risky due to the media attention last year or so. But as long as you stay under the radar NKY, East and West sides are pretty much uncle free.

As far as the rip and runs and con's. Role the dice, they are everywhere. Buyer beware! If it sounds to good. It is.

As far as the ol medical report card. Never been so much straight info here, but that is why there is the PM.

Thanks for the info Kat!