The Woodshed

[QUOTE=RicoJax;4057738]I have come to the realization that my "Monger Habit", much like a provider's drug habit is way out of control. Besides the monumental waste of financial resources that could be better used in a variety of other ways, the time spent with all the research and being jacked around by clueless providers is extensive. Then comes all the various risks, from catching any number of STD's, getting busted in a sting with LEO, robbed or even worse, getting injured or killed by some crazy ho or her DB. I have only been involved in this habit for 15 months, I still remember my first, Labor Day weekend in 2017 and like a drug addict, I have escalated quickly. Prior to getting involved in this habit, I wouldn't have given any of these providers the time of day, not even a second look if I passed them on the streets, now I am kissing their ass just to get them to return a text message and paying them for sex. My God, what has happened to me. Time to go cold turkey. I have tried kicking this habit before, but failed miserably. It is definitely like a monkey on my back. Other than checking myself into a lockdown monger rehab facility, does anyone have any suggestions on kicking this?[/QUOTE]The harder it is to get back out. I have been thinking about getting out as well. Right now is a perfect time to ease back or leave the hobby completely due to the lack of local talent. Unless your addiction is so bad that you only care about putting your dick in a wet hole no matter how bad she looks or what that hole is attached to. Or if your addictive desire for a cheap fuck blinds you to the fact that you are fucking the dirtiest trash walking around town. When I browse the sites, I only see 1 maybe 2 girls that I would even consider. All the others? Just nasty. Why would I PAY a nasty looking hoe to satisfy me?? I have standards. Because of those standards, my visits have been few and far in between lately. Making it easier for me to consider stepping away. I am going to start seeing more civies to ween myself away completely. Unless a new deep throat queen hits the scene. Lmao!

[QUOTE=BiggDaddi;4058297]The harder it is to get back out. I have been thinking about getting out as well. Right now is a perfect time to ease back or leave the hobby completely due to the lack of local talent. Unless your addiction is so bad that you only care about putting your dick in a wet hole no matter how bad she looks or what that hole is attached to. Or if your addictive desire for a cheap fuck blinds you to the fact that you are fucking the dirtiest trash walking around town. When I browse the sites, I only see 1 maybe 2 girls that I would even consider. All the others? Just nasty. Why would I PAY a nasty looking hoe to satisfy me?? I have standards. Because of those standards, my visits have been few and far in between lately. Making it easier for me to consider stepping away. I am going to start seeing more civies to ween myself away completely. Unless a new deep throat queen hits the scene. Lmao![/QUOTE]The longer you stay, the harder it is. I wish I could say it's been 15 months. That would be great! Some have been in this hobby for decades- try that one out for size. You're probably not as far gone as you might think, if it's only been 15 months. It's certainly a mind thing too. Hope you guys get there soon enough.

I see a therapist for help on this. She does individual and group sessions, and she can also help you find other resources. My hobby is way down from what it was.

I haven't seen any one for awhile, my trick is to stay busy. I started going back to college, getting involved in my community and getting more serious about physical fitness. I leave no idle time for myself.

Also, I would recommend watching deliverance prayers on you tube. Channels like brother Carlos, john Kyle, deliverance marathon. Etc. These work but they don't work immediately. It will take a few months. Ummm also, the mgtow channels are really awesome like turd flinging monkey, replicant fish. They expose female nature. The juice isn't worth the squeeze bro. It will really make you want to have nothing to do with these hoes. Also, surround yourself with good friends that hold you accountable and are not into the hobby anymore.

Most of all take it day by day, just tell yourself I don't feel like it today and that's not who I am. Say it to your self every morning with a good cup of coffee. All this had worked out well for me and come to find I feel more fulfilled.

[QUOTE=RicoJax;4057738]I have come to the realization that my "Monger Habit", much like a provider's drug habit is way out of control. Besides the monumental waste of financial resources that could be better used in a variety of other ways, the time spent with all the research and being jacked around by clueless providers is extensive. Then comes all the various risks, from catching any number of STD's, getting busted in a sting with LEO, robbed or even worse, getting injured or killed by some crazy ho or her DB. I have only been involved in this habit for 15 months, I still remember my first, Labor Day weekend in 2017 and like a drug addict, I have escalated quickly. Prior to getting involved in this habit, I wouldn't have given any of these providers the time of day, not even a second look if I passed them on the streets, now I am kissing their ass just to get them to return a text message and paying them for sex. My God, what has happened to me. Time to go cold turkey. I have tried kicking this habit before, but failed miserably. It is definitely like a monkey on my back. Other than checking myself into a lockdown monger rehab facility, does anyone have any suggestions on kicking this?[/QUOTE]What has worked for me is staying busy. I got back to college, getting involved with my community and got serious about my physical fitness. I have been watching deliverance prayers on you tube every night for sleep. I recommend brother Carlos, deliverance marathon, or John Kyle. These have worked slowly but very well. I have done Mgtow videos like turd flinging monkey or sandman or replicant fish. Juice ain't worth the squeeze and a red pill a day keeps the duplicitous hoes away. I surround myself with good friends that hold me accountable that are there for me. I also take it day by day and tell myself that I don't feel like it today and that's not who I am and how this won't help my situation and I run through the reasons why. I have not seen any of these providers for awhile and I feel great and I got more money to invest to make my situation better. Hope this helps brother.

[QUOTE=Quebec99;4058017]I hate myself because of it! You know, there is no magic formula. You just have to have a desire to quit, but that desire must come from the heart. Too much time wasted and certainly an exorbitant amount of resources expended. At least I did pay a house and car off when I was young but part of that is I don't believe in giving these heifers all my money-I have strict boundaries. I try to stick to 60 or less; but I want to stop that also. I think about provider's like Mandy Many Mandy, I mean, this is a girl who wants nothing less than 200 as she indicated she only does like 1 hour appointments now, but for me to spend that kind of money alone is ridiculous; however, much more crazier to spend that kind of time with someone who seems to have rocks for brains! Have you ever seen some of her YouTube videos?! There was one where her and friends decided to take a taco and throw it at someone's car because the person pissed them off. Let's not even talk about the crazed laugh. Here is one:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lBkUtAGbxA[/URL]

Now this is one individual I could barely stand to be in the room with for more than 15 minutes, but now I have to be tortured to have her in my presence for 1 hour! Nope! No way! Anyway, sorry to kind of get offtrack, I guess. Too much money wasted and I'm starting to really cut back a lot. Hopefully, I will get there sooner than later.[/QUOTE]Quitting the "hobby" isn't easy, I've tried many times and gone for long periods of hooker abstinence but I keep coming back to it. Personally I think cold turkey is the way to go, no more browsing escort sites, get off USA, stay way from any trigger that may prompt you to indulge. Perhaps seek professional help and when you fall off the wagon as you will certainly do pick yourself up and try again. One of my biggest issue's is that I've gotten past the self loathing that has prompted my desire to quit in the past. I've kinda excepted mongering is part of who I am, not totally excepted but I don't beat myself up over it anymore. What we do is satisfy a primal need and morally I don't know the right or wrong of it. Would I like to quit, sure, but then again maybe not. JD.

Wow, it's kind of refreshing to read these last few posts, fellas. Glad to know that there's a human side to some of you. .

While I've only been on the sugar daddy side of "paying for sex", the heart of the addiction is still the same. I've slowed down my activity from what it was in 2017, but that's mainly because I found a girl who gives me more than what I ever got from any other sugar baby on SA. It's been a really good year for both of us. BUT, what hasn't changed is my level of distraction from my real life stuff, like family, kids, growing the business. Spiritual enrichment. The list goes on. Until I can completely walk away from this habit that feeds my attention-deficit, those other areas will suffer. You guys have a lot of good suggestions on how to move forward, and I'm going to look into them. Merry Christmas, folks!

I've weened myself off about 80%. The thing that made me decide I needed to get away from this was looking at how much better a "normal" girl would be. Dudes treat UTR like gold for a reason, its nice to have a girl with low mileage, who hasn't had their brain fried. I think of most normal girls as UTR that you can date / fuck for "free", no drugs, no DB, no LEO.

I also thought of how much money I would have had if I never discovered escorts / AMPs. I think $20,000 may be in the ballpark of what I spent over the years (I really liked AMPs).

Save your money, soul and sanity.

Is she hot?

DAMMIT! There I go AGAIN!

LOL.

[QUOTE=Fakeadd5;4058582]I see a therapist for help on this. She does individual and group sessions, and she can also help you find other resources. My hobby is way down from what it was.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EaglesSb;4058897]I've weened myself off about 80%. The thing that made me decide I needed to get away from this was looking at how much better a "normal" girl would be. Dudes treat UTR like gold for a reason, its nice to have a girl with low mileage, who hasn't had their brain fried. I think of most normal girls as UTR that you can date / fuck for "free", no drugs, no DB, no LEO.

I also thought of how much money I would have had if I never discovered escorts / AMPs. I think $20,000 may be in the ballpark of what I spent over the years (I really liked AMPs).

Save your money, soul and sanity.[/QUOTE]Now I really feel bad. I am quite certain that I spent over $20,000 in the last 15 months.

[QUOTE=TomCat4871;4059804]Is she hot?

DAMMIT! There I go AGAIN!

LOL.[/QUOTE]How much is therapy? What are the other resources?

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[QUOTE=RicoJax;4059846]Now I really feel bad. I am quite certain that I spent over $20,000 in the last 15 months.[/QUOTE]Its amazing how we can look at the cable bill and say "$55 a month is way too much", but if you see a provider you like posting 60 for qv it seems cheap as "its just 60 bucks". If that's not addiction, I don't know what is.

[QUOTE=Fakeadd5;4058582]I see a therapist for help on this. She does individual and group sessions, and she can also help you find other resources. ...............[/QUOTE]Group sessions, huh. How many hit on the therapist? Do you pay first?

I see some other areas have a GB thread. Do we not have any group activities in JAX?

In putting together a group, Andi?

[QUOTE=Andi3030;4062166]I see some other areas have a GB thread. Do we not have any group activities in JAX?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DWaltonXXX;4062384]In putting together a group, Andi?[/QUOTE]Hmmm, it is a bucket list item of mine.

[QUOTE=Andi3030;4062426]Hmmm, it is a bucket list item of mine.[/QUOTE]Me too!

Had sex with a dwarf. Check.

Other stuff. Check.

Still other stuff. Check.

More stuff, but never any livestock involved. Check.

Gangbang. Still not checked!

I'm in for andi.

[QUOTE=Andi3030;4062166]I see some other areas have a GB thread. Do we not have any group activities in JAX?[/QUOTE]I always wondered about joining a GB. Please keep me in the loop if this happens.

[QUOTE=BoringName;4063510]I always wondered about joining a GB. Please keep me in the loop if this happens.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would definitely want to be invited if it includes Andi.

[QUOTE=BoringName;4063510]I always wondered about joining a GB. Please keep me in the loop if this happens.[/QUOTE]I'd love a gangbang with a bunch of girls banged me, but being in a room full of naked guys with one girl, nah, seems kinda gay to me.

[QUOTE=DWaltonXXX;4062384]In putting together a group, Andi?[/QUOTE]I've been in a group of three couples sharing around and that was a good time, but one woman and a bunch of guys doesn't sound very interesting to me. Now, throw in multiple women and I think you're onto something.

[QUOTE=Satisfaxxxion;4063647]I've been in a group of three couples sharing around and that was a good time, but one woman and a bunch of guys doesn't sound very interesting to me. Now, throw in multiple women and I think you're onto something.[/QUOTE]Agreed! That does make it more interesting!

I would love one of those featuring Andi!

[QUOTE=Andi3030;4062426]Hmmm, it is a bucket list item of mine.[/QUOTE]I'm in. Whenwill this happen?

[QUOTE=Maxswell;4059892]How much is therapy? What are the other resources?[/QUOTE]I pay 85 a visit. I don't know her group rates. In the beginning she gave me a list of 20 or so SA groups and gave me a little bit of background on them.

I've Learned a lot about myself in the process as far as why I do what I do.

She's great. Love her.

[QUOTE=BiggDaddi;4064148]I would love one of those featuring Andi![/QUOTE]I wouldn't even know how to attempt this one. Yet. Interesting indeed and worth me looking into it I'd say.

[QUOTE=Mrbbp;4064316]I'm in. Whenwill this happen?[/QUOTE]Lots of logistics to be thought through.

I'd love to have a meeting with a couple mongers (separately) to toss around ideas and figure out how to do this.

[QUOTE=Andi3030;4064500]I wouldn't even know how to attempt this one. Yet. Interesting indeed and worth me looking into it I'd say.[/QUOTE]Had a recent road trip and noticed an Adult Theater by 301 and state road 26. I've never been but looked up info on it. Found posts that are years old but apparently they have some glory hole booths.

[QUOTE=Satisfaxxxion;4063647]I've been in a group of three couples sharing around and that was a good time, but one woman and a bunch of guys doesn't sound very interesting to me. Now, throw in multiple women and I think you're onto something.[/QUOTE]That would go from a GB to an orgy, so.

[QUOTE=Satisfaxxxion;4063647]I've been in a group of three couples sharing around and that was a good time, but one woman and a bunch of guys doesn't sound very interesting to me. Now, throw in multiple women and I think you're onto something.[/QUOTE]It goes (counting on fingers) masturbation, one-on-one, three-some, two couple swinging, two couple swinging with a looky-loo, (six fingers) orgy's six.

[QUOTE=BoringName;4064887]Had a recent road trip and noticed an Adult Theater by 301 and state road 26. I've never been but looked up info on it. Found posts that are years old but apparently they have some glory hole booths.[/QUOTE]I have been curious about those never knew one actually existed. I want to make sure a woman is on the other side of the wall I'll be down with it.

[QUOTE=LovesAFreak;4064994]I have been curious about those never knew one actually existed. I want to make sure a woman is on the other side of the wall I'll be down with it.[/QUOTE]My only experience with Glory Holes (not really an experience) was in Tampa. Looked through the peephole and there was a guy (actually the guy from the counter of the place) No Thanks.

[QUOTE=FredZeppelin;4063591]I'd love a gangbang with a bunch of girls banged me, but being in a room full of naked guys with one girl, nah, seems kinda gay to me.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking I can stay focused. Subscribed!

[QUOTE=YDiner_Otown;4065142]My only experience with Glory Holes (not really an experience) was in Tampa. Looked through the peephole and there was a guy (actually the guy from the counter of the place) No Thanks.[/QUOTE]That's what I am afraid of it being a guy on the other side of the wall. No thanks I don't get down like that.

[QUOTE=LovesAFreak;4064994]I have been curious about those never knew one actually existed. I want to make sure a woman is on the other side of the wall I'll be down with it.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that's mostly a thing for gay people these days.

[QUOTE=YDiner_Otown;4065142]My only experience with Glory Holes (not really an experience) was in Tampa. Looked through the peephole and there was a guy (actually the guy from the counter of the place) No Thanks.[/QUOTE]Back in my Tampa days, some interesting action could be found in some of the adult venues that had had theaters. Fantasyland was the place to go and there were a few websites that promoted the adventures (Tampa Bukkake was one of them.).

[QUOTE=DrewPark;4065274]Back in my Tampa days, some interesting action could be found in some of the adult venues that had had theaters. Fantasyland was the place to go and there were a few websites that promoted the adventures (Tampa Bukkake was one of them.).[/QUOTE]Drew, I knew I recognized your handle! This was Aquarius video.

[QUOTE=YDiner_Otown;4065142]My only experience with Glory Holes (not really an experience) was in Tampa. Looked through the peephole and there was a guy (actually the guy from the counter of the place) No Thanks.[/QUOTE]We would be able to verify that it's Andi behond the wall though. I would love to experience that with a throat goddess like her.