15th Ave Bookstore

Seems like most of y'all are like me, sideline observers. I haven't been there in at least a couple months, but am still curious as to what's happening there.

Sheba and Rogue struck me as professionals, or at least semi pros, given their active solicitation of men to come and visit them and to be videotaped. Certainly changed the tenor of things there.

I've resigned from the yahoo group. Do Sheba and Rogue still actively promote their upcoming events?

I consider myself lucky to have been there "back in the day" when the likes of Femcar, Angel and Nancy B showed up with no agenda other than to be fucked hard and often. Maybe that's still happening (sans Angel) but doesn't sound like it.

You obviously don't know much about what we do or our play which does not include anyone that doesn't want to be in it. We have never posted anything of anyone without permission from the person and we always post what our intent is each time we go. We have been to CT's one time in the past about a year ago and have never been back since. And we go to melrose a few times a month unlike those who practically live there. As far as "film crew" it is just me usually or I might ask a friend who is there to take a few of our play. As far as Femcar, we know her as our friend and have never taken pictures of her or anyone else that did'nt want to. But hey people are going to B***H no matter what so like I said everyone need a skapegoat,

Peace,

Sheba38c_hubby

[QUOTE=LapDogg]I wouldn't be so quick to blame the other club for this. Things have fallen off there as well.

Certain members began smear campaigns on their own (remember janetCD) and things at both bookstores began to change with the arrival of sheeba and her crew (including film crew) at both stores.

I personally think that many of the women were scarred off with the frequent video taping and all of the aholes that wanted to take pictures all of the time.

Many of the women came to the bookstores for fun and to satisfy their kinky sides (or their husbands kinky sides). They also have private lives and don't want to be seen all over the internet as with many of the mongers that go there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LapDogg]I wouldn't be so quick to blame the other club for this. Things have fallen off there as well.

Certain members began smear campaigns on their own (remember janetCD) and things at both bookstores began to change with the arrival of sheeba and her crew (including film crew) at both stores.

I personally think that many of the women were scarred off with the frequent video taping and all of the aholes that wanted to take pictures all of the time.

Many of the women came to the bookstores for fun and to satisfy their kinky sides (or their husbands kinky sides). They also have private lives and don't want to be seen all over the internet as with many of the mongers that go there.[/QUOTE]I would agree. I visited the bookstore a few times with my husband, never played. The one time I was all ready to play I get there only to see video and picture taking. I certainly do no want my picture floating around the net. If Sheba or others want to take pictures to document the experience I would suggest they find a place where no one entering the place minds. Clubs that I have visited never allow cameras or recording devices.

As an original patron of 15th ave I would have to agree that this place has been going down hill ever since the pro's and semi pros crawled in off the street. Its sad to think that Femcar is probally the last of her type (women who do it for the pleasure). But its obvious that the ones who are showing up and posting on there groups that there coming are doing it for me than just sex. Guess we will have to face that some come for lust others for there greed.

Just to ad another something to consider where did the place come from who really backs it?

Here's where the galaxy got its start

This business was opened because of corruption. Robert Natale, the mayor of Stone Park at the time the business opened, took a $5,000 bribe from deceased mobster Anthony Centracchio (who at the time controlled the near western suburbs and DuPage County for the Chicago mob), in order to allow this "bookstore" to open. Centracchio's other upstanding contributions to local suburban commerce included illegal video poker machines, and an abortion clinic in another near western suburb. The mob's payoff man in Stone Park at the time was a former Stone Park police Lieutenant , one Thomas Tucker. He essentially acted as go-between for the mob and the mayor. The listed owner of the business is one Joseph Annecca. Annecca's brother Michael "Moon" Annecca, and one Mike O'Malley, have acted as managers of the Galaxy adult bookstore.

[QUOTE=Sillylikeu]I would agree. I visited the bookstore a few times with my husband, never played. The one time I was all ready to play I get there only to see video and picture taking. I certainly do no want my picture floating around the net. If Sheba or others want to take pictures to document the experience I would suggest they find a place where no one entering the place minds. Clubs that I have visited never allow cameras or recording devices.[/QUOTE]

They only take pics of the girls....Not the men , ecept their cock..... Damm

[QUOTE=Shebahubby]You obviously don't know much about what we do or our play which does not include anyone that doesn't want to be in it. We have never posted anything of anyone without permission from the person and we always post what our intent is each time we go. We have been to CT's one time in the past about a year ago and have never been back since. And we go to melrose a few times a month unlike those who practically live there. As far as "film crew" it is just me usually or I might ask a friend who is there to take a few of our play. As far as Femcar, we know her as our friend and have never taken pictures of her or anyone else that did'nt want to. But hey people are going to B***H no matter what so like I said everyone need a skapegoat,

Peace,

Sheba38c_hubby[/QUOTE]
Been w Sheeba n hubby. They only video her and youre cock UNLESS you wanna be some porn star...Im a man from the south side of Chicago but most of these men are stupid. Sometimes a good thing becomes a BAD THING..........SAD....

[QUOTE=Bulls143]They only take pics of the girls....Not the men , ecept their cock..... Damm[/QUOTE]Bulls143,

Exactly I am a girl and I don't want anyone taking pictures of me.

I don't care if they edit it out the face or not.

[QUOTE=Bulls143]Been w Sheeba n hubby. They only video her and youre cock UNLESS you wanna be some porn star...Im a man from the south side of Chicago but most of these men are stupid. Sometimes a good thing becomes a BAD THING..........SAD....[/QUOTE]

There have been others video taping other than Sheeba. I know, I have been there when they were doing it. I saw the camera angles. I saw the viewfinders. There were face shots then. You cant help be seen if you are standing there watching. Hmmm guess Im one of the stupid ones for not wanting my face on the internet. Or the tattoos that I have in areas that would be seen if u were shooting below my waist.

Silky and others make a valid point that people were scared off by the cameras. Not just Shebas, but the still cams and cell phones and the voyers who claimed the pix were just for them. Promises to obscure faces are just empty promises in the anonymous world we travel in.

I can say that without a doubt the three woman that I brought to the club would NOT want their pictures taken there.

I am Definatley not responsible for what others do but as far as what we do it has never been hiden and I have always been upfront with people about it. I do edit all faces out as well as tattos and many times shirt logos incase its a work shirt. I let the men and women know that I will be taking pictures and vids and that if I do post anything their faces and distinguishing marks will be edited. I have had several men tell me they wanted their face on it and didn't care because they have been in Am-porn. Even then I usually edit out their faces anyway. Your not stupid for not wanting your face on the web as many do not want their family or friends and co-workers knowing and We understand that. Its seems like Sheba and I are getting the short end of this for our play even though we have never slighted anyone in it or misused or misrepresented our intent in anyway. Apparently Some on this site have a bone to pick with Melrose, so why take it out on us. We love the venue and play there as well as other places and at times without our cameras. Thats still our choice. I always say if you don't want to be in our play because I'm taking pictures or vids thats your choice. Or simply let me know and usualy I will not take vids or pictures to accomodate you (usually). There has been nights where I didn't take any pictures and simply had fun playing and watching her play.

Peace

L AKA Sheba38c_hubby

[QUOTE=HappyGardener]There have been others video taping other than Sheeba. I know, I have been there when they were doing it. There were face shots then. You cant help be seen if you are stading there watching. Hmmm guess Im one of the stupid ones for not wanting my face on the internet[/QUOTE]

Am curious to stop by Friday night, but last I heard a single guy like me is only allowed in theater, but no nudity/sex is allowed there. Couples and ladies can go to party room, but not single guys.

Is my understanding correct?

If I am correct, why would a single guy ever visit? Not trying to stir up trouble, just trying to understand what the deal is, and if its worth my 20, 35 or whatever dollars.

(doesn't seem that long ago that I could pay my 20 and hang out in theater and see what happened; might be nothing at all except a bunch of creepy guys, or one might be blown by Angel or get to fuck Patricia doggy style in a booth)

Those were the days my friend, I thought they'd never end.

[QUOTE=Qteepie]Hi all,

I was reading the posts and decided I needed to ask before I wasted my time. I will be visiting chicago for a month starting next weekend and wanted to visit the bookstore as I frequent the bookstore in my area Moviethon. Will it be worth my time? Will there be guys there? I am just looking to have some fun and take as many guys as I can.[/QUOTE]
Are you a man or a woman? You may also want to check out the NW Indiana thread for a place known as CTS. [url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2746[/url]

Really well done. Thank you Ericdrumz, for taking the time to write it.
[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=716387&postcount=975[/url]

If you are coming to Chicago go to Melrose and if you want a choice there is CTs in NW indiana but Between the two (melrose and CTs) My personal choice is Melrose, much cleaner, larger, spa & Showers, lockers as well as larger theater, back room behind theater for more fun as well as 16 arcade booths with 6 that have gloryholes in them for more fun. Staff is very helpful. Cts is smaller and dirty. Think it was an old garage or gas station turned into a strip club then now a small theater (my living room is bigger seriously) about 4-5 booths very small and not clean in anyway. Staff is nice. Pete is ok and the guys that hang are cool. Guys that go to both are usually friendly. Both have a exam table but melrose also has private rooms with massage tables or padded bech style seats/bed. Again there is a choice and have been to both (CTs one time and melrose lots of times) We would choose Melrose. But hey its all in what you want and are looking for.

Peace,

L

[QUOTE=HappyGardener]Are you a man or a woman? You may also want to check out the NW Indiana thread for a place known as CTS. [url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2746[/url][/QUOTE]

Are motivated by one of two things, 1. They are linked to a competitive business and have seen their business fall dramatically or 2. They have a beef to pick with ownership. I am very objective on the subject and will continue to give my feedback. I have been going to swing clubs and theaters for over 30years and go to the playhouse about once and month except over the summer when I have more free time. The playhouse by far is the best bang for its buck for the right group of people. Who are those, first off very adventurous couples, women who like to be gang banged, voyeurs and of course horny males who like to play.

Here is the deal, the playhouse was fantastic before the bashing started. On any given Friday night there were 10-20 couples in the theater, some playing, some watching, on Friday's you actually had 2 shifts, the early bird couples who would get there at around 7 and stay until 9or10 and then you would have the later group of couples filtering in about 9 and leaving around 12. Single women would float in all night long. Some days you had femcar, nancy, honey, etc. All playing at once. Then the chit hit the fan and the conspiracy to hurt the playhouse started and the couples and single women dried up dramatically. Like I posted a few days ago, I went last Friday from 7-9 and no action whatsoever. The bashing worked for the time being. The club is very playable for couples and single women with that back room behind the theater screen a nice place to play as well as the booths. The owners need to come up with a way to get the word out to the right folks without getting the word out to those that want to stagnate the play at Melrose, ie, the bashers. The owners have a tough road in my opinion but they are smart businessmen and my gut says they will get the women and couples back. All in my opinion and mine alone.

Several things bother me. I saw a video of Rouge with several black guys doing her. And while they were doing her a white arm reaches over and takes pictures using a cell phone camera. He was taking head/face shots. I mention their races as way of identifying not as a racist remark. The fact that it was a white arm made it clear he was not part of the actual action. Maybe those black guys didn't mind. But it does bother me and probably others too that anyone with a cell phone can snap away at me while I'm too busy to notice it.

Another point you left out was the cost. Now I hate CT's its a lousy dirty place. That said its only $10. Melrose has one price to get in, another for the spa, another for a lock, another for a locker, another for your parties. Not just me but others have posted it can cost easily $70 just to walk around and find only a few people none of which are playing. Sorry Sheba but I know you ain't paying that price. In fact you do make a profit off your parties. So don't jump on us who complain about the much higher cost unless you pay it too. Final point is Melrose hasn't been the same since you and your film crew showed up. It used to be a nice quiet place to go and have fun. Now everyone is in fear of cops, pic taking, higher costs. The ygroups can't even say the name Melrose. How immature is that. You really think the cops are going to bust them because someone said Melrose out loud? At least we can talk openly in here. As much as I hate CT's their business is really picking up.

[QUOTE=Shebahubby]If you are coming to Chicago go to Melrose and if you want a choice there is CTs in NW indiana but Between the two (melrose and CTs) My personal choice is Melrose, much cleaner, larger, spa & Showers, lockers as well as larger theater, back room behind theater for more fun as well as 16 arcade booths with 6 that have gloryholes in them for more fun. Staff is very helpful. Cts is smaller and dirty. Think it was an old garage or gas station turned into a strip club then now a small theater (my living room is bigger seriously) about 4-5 booths very small and not clean in anyway. Staff is nice. Pete is ok and the guys that hang are cool. Guys that go to both are usually friendly. Both have a exam table but melrose also has private rooms with massage tables or padded bech style seats/bed. Again there is a choice and have been to both (CTs one time and melrose lots of times) We would choose Melrose. But hey its all in what you want and are looking for.

Peace,

L[/QUOTE]