Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=BrandoM;6076282]I think the dividing line is, "what's the point?" As in some would rather go without than have someone unattractive. The point of the hobby is to pay people to leave, but if you are talking some random wilderbeast, just go to your local dive bar and grab anyone applicable for a quickie and drop them immediately as well. Less expensive too.

I saw this a lot in the SA thread, too, where people are posting asking about the absolute worst looking women on there and seemingly ignoring the 99 percent better looking people. It's like some people just aren't aiming higher and are thinking they can't do any better, even when paying for it.

Now if that's just someone's fetish or what they like, no issues, nobody is kink shaming anyone. It's just the guys that are settling for garbage; I don't get it.

The quality of women doing massages has dropped so much around here, I just quit since I'd just rather DIY than force my eyes closed and imagine someone else while on the table. I remember the Windsor days where you got actual attractive 20 somethings, or even that one place in Troy 4 or so years ago just north of 15 when actual attractive 20-30 Asian women were rotating in and out before it shut down. The choices now are just bad. Why even bother, imo.[/QUOTE]Sometimes, some guys prefer to get a massage with a guaranteed finish from a woman who isn't going to rip them off or report them to LE, even if the woman is old and homely. I have a favorite place that I go to regularly and, while they're not stunners, I get what I want, how I like it, and I don't pay a fortune for it. Other times, I pay a little more for someone prettier and I take my chances.

I get that you can't bring yourself to see the older ones, but every guy is different.

[QUOTE=Picolo55;6078496]I don't post a lot because it's just all the same places with the same endings everyone's talking about anyway.

But I'm considering a 4 hands massage this afternoon, and I'm wondering if it's worth it or just extra money for the same old finish?[/QUOTE]Google "law of diminishing marginal utility" and you will have your answer.

It looks like Ohio will be requiringa license soon for all types of massage including relaxation massage. This will change the game down there. What is the status in Michigan. Are relaxation spas allowed and can they operate without a license?

[QUOTE=StevesWorld1;6071908]Unfortunately the guy is telling the truth. I to got a call on Sunday from hazel park police about an investigation of money exchange for sexual favors apparently the douch b / f gave documented phone number, times, dates and videos. I have an appointment for Wednesday with them and if I don't show up there will be a warrant for my arrest for not cooperating with an active investigation that I am part of. MTF if I can only get my hands on that guy. I just went through an expensive as divorce and now I got to pay more money and lawyers.[/QUOTE]This is your first post and police don't investigate via phone. They don't call you you and tell you everything you claim they did. Really? So a new poster pops up and makes crazy claims. Then another new poster (you) pops up out of nowhere to validate said claims of the first new poster. Dude, you must be seriously jelly to go through all this. I hope you can get over it.

[QUOTE=CarmeloJoe35;6080110]This is your first post and police don't investigate via phone. They don't call you you and tell you everything you claim they did. Really? So a new poster pops up and makes crazy claims. Then another new poster (you) pops up out of nowhere to validate said claims of the first new poster. Dude, you must be seriously jelly to go through all this. I hope you can get over it.[/QUOTE]In general I don't disagree with you but I watch a lot of 48 Hours, and they always call people, who "come down to the station".

I want to see the Liaa photos / videos LOL. Anyone have a link that she sent? Maybe she's just getting into the spy cam massage footage.

[QUOTE=Awefasd;6080456]I want to see the Liaa photos / videos LOL. Anyone have a link that she sent? Maybe she's just getting into the spy cam massage footage.[/QUOTE]I do not. Part of me wants to hang on to the idea this is all fake. Or that I could be in there LOL. Saw her 4-5 months ago.

I wonder if she had a hidden cam for personal protection and a Pervy neighbor hacked it. But that doesn't explain the texts and call records. I wonder if she is aware.

Not long ago, Michigan had just five licensing people for the entire state. With 10,000 establishments, they are ill equipted to do much investigating.

[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;6079891]It looks like Ohio will be requiringa license soon for all types of massage including relaxation massage. This will change the game down there. What is the status in Michigan. Are relaxation spas allowed and can they operate without a license?[/QUOTE]

This place used to be my go-to for younger women and sexier HE's. But Bibi's upselling, clock-watching, mediocre massage (even by AMP standards. My expectations are reasonably low), and her additional tiered prices for UTC made my latest visit less than memorable. Even her dirty talk HE seemed to be on a timer.

[QUOTE=RoadHead;6080120]In general I don't disagree with you but I watch a lot of 48 Hours, and they always call people, who "come down to the station".[/QUOTE]If you watch 48 hours, maybe the poster does too. I guarantee those videos are inadmissible in court because they were obtained illegally. You can't video random citizens getting naked in order to get a massage. They might as well put a camera in a changing room trying to catch shoplifters.

[QUOTE=DetroitRedWing;6081032]This place used to be my go-to for younger women and sexier HE's. But Bibi's upselling, clock-watching, mediocre massage (even by AMP standards. My expectations are reasonably low), and her additional tiered prices for UTC made my latest visit less than memorable. Even her dirty talk HE seemed to be on a timer.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience about a week ago about upselling. Will not repeat. By the way, there were 3 girls there. Asked the girl and she said they would never go naked.

[QUOTE=SuperJason2;6081188]I had a similar experience about a week ago about upselling. Will not repeat. By the way, there were 3 girls there. Asked the girl and she said they would never go naked.[/QUOTE]Get the right girl and money always moves mountains. But in general don't waste your time.

[QUOTE=Fitzie00;6078648]Sometimes, some guys prefer to get a massage with a guaranteed finish from a woman who isn't going to rip them off or report them to LE, even if the woman is old and homely. I have a favorite place that I go to regularly and, while they're not stunners, I get what I want, how I like it, and I don't pay a fortune for it. Other times, I pay a little more for someone prettier and I take my chances.

I get that you can't bring yourself to see the older ones, but every guy is different.[/QUOTE]What's important is that we have a good time.

I know the Liaa thing is getting old but I have not looked at the burner phone in a week or so as I was out of town and I did get a text with a picture from high above of a bigger AA man on a table while a woman is holding his junk. The text stated that I was wanted by local police for soliciting sex acts and that I should take the picture of me and turn myself in to the local Police Department. I googled the number and it was for an ad posted by Liaa. First of all, I am just a normal average white guy and second, I have never seen Liaa but I did text her months ago and ask about a session but I never went since I heard it was $150+ for DIY. I replied back to the text and said "sorry, not me" and then I received three more pics with the message of "one of these you? Go turn yourself in before we come and get you!" I asked if I could buy my video for reminiscing but no response. There really are pics of 4 different guys with her but I have no clue about the authenticity.

[QUOTE=CarmeloJoe35;6081085]If you watch 48 hours, maybe the poster does too. I guarantee those videos are inadmissible in court because they were obtained illegally. You can't video random citizens getting naked in order to get a massage. They might as well put a camera in a changing room trying to catch shoplifters.[/QUOTE]Agree. She and / or her bf are setting themselves up for serious charges. They aren't in this game because of high IQ.

[QUOTE=SuperJason2;6081188]I had a similar experience about a week ago about upselling. Will not repeat. By the way, there were 3 girls there. Asked the girl and she said they would never go naked.[/QUOTE]So who is there these days? I suspect Lily is still there. And who else? I've never had a problem with up-selling. I always tip the same amount and leave very happy. With that said, I've not been there in a several months. Have they changed their MO?

Fellow Seniors.

I happen to have biz to do in Novi tomorrow and I would love to see the famous Natasha. If anyone can share info on how to make arrangements it would be much appreciated. PM is fine. Thank you.

[QUOTE=BigBoobLover;6081662]I know the Liaa thing is getting old but I have not looked at the burner phone in a week or so as I was out of town and I did get a text with a picture from high above of a bigger AA man on a table while a woman is holding his junk. The text stated that I was wanted by local police for soliciting sex acts and that I should take the picture of me and turn myself in to the local Police Department. I googled the number and it was for an ad posted by Liaa. First of all, I am just a normal average white guy and second, I have never seen Liaa but I did text her months ago and ask about a session but I never went since I heard it was $150+ for DIY. I replied back to the text and said "sorry, not me" and then I received three more pics with the message of "one of these you? Go turn yourself in before we come and get you!" I asked if I could buy my video for reminiscing but no response. There really are pics of 4 different guys with her but I have no clue about the authenticity.[/QUOTE]Is this Liaa??

[QUOTE=Nknk789;6006306]Need help to find a very good massage place and reasonable price? No need extra. I mean a professional. Private location is ok. Thank.[/QUOTE]Try Kim's in Rochester. Excellent massage! I left there happy! The only draw back was parking.

[QUOTE=HungaryMan;6082347]Is this Liaa??[/QUOTE]No that's not her.

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;6080789]Not long ago, Michigan had just five licensing people for the entire state. With 10,000 establishments, they are ill equipted to do much investigating.[/QUOTE]It's the cities in Ohio that are enacting licensing ordinances, not the State. So, it would be like Detroit requiring that every massage parlor would have to send in a document, probably with a few hundred dollars, to some agency like the health department, certifying that everyone that gives massages there has a state license in massage therapy. The ordinance even require that copies of the licenses be sent in to the city or that the licenses be available or on display inside.

That letter would probably sit in the city agency's file, until local police act on it. Licensing authorities don't investigate much anyhow; they just issue licenses. It's the local police who will be able to go into the place and ask to see the licenses. If the licenses aren't there, police issue a ticket or get the prosecutor to file a charge. The ordinance in Franklin County is a misdemeanor with a $500/ day fine. $500 per day.

[QUOTE=HungaryMan;6082347]Is this Liaa??[/QUOTE]I have no idea if this is Liaa, I have never seen her. I have 4 pics of her from above that do not show her face.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;6082709]No that's not her.[/QUOTE][URL]https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1639735[/URL]

[QUOTE=Fitzie00;6082751]It's the cities in Ohio that are enacting licensing ordinances, not the State. So, it would be like Detroit requiring that every massage parlor would have to send in a document, probably with a few hundred dollars, to some agency like the health department, certifying that everyone that gives massages there has a state license in massage therapy. The ordinance even require that copies of the licenses be sent in to the city or that the licenses be available or on display inside.

That letter would probably sit in the city agency's file, until local police act on it. Licensing authorities don't investigate much anyhow; they just issue licenses. It's the local police who will be able to go into the place and ask to see the licenses. If the licenses aren't there, police issue a ticket or get the prosecutor to file a charge. The ordinance in Franklin County is a misdemeanor with a $500/ day fine. $500 per day.[/QUOTE]Its a shame they don't have to take a test with a section on HJ Technique.

[QUOTE=JoeyKing;6072666]They do not have a name or sign yet. They share a parking lot with a state farm agency that can be accessed from both sides of Gratiot. It is about 2 blocks north of where SB Gratiot crosses the river.

As you travel south and pass Kibbee St. It is on your left just pass the used car place. Pull into parking lot for the insurance place. It is in a Grey building attached to larger Lighting store and faces north and is not easily visible while driving on Gratiot.[/QUOTE]Stopped in on Monday around 5:30. Sign painted on the wall inside said Natural Healing Therapeutic Massage. Rang the doorbell but no one answered.

[QUOTE=Ghost8;6083827]Stopped in on Monday around 5:30. Sign painted on the wall inside said Natural Healing Therapeutic Massage. Rang the doorbell but no one answered.[/QUOTE]I called to make an appt for today, and they said they were closed today.

Been out of town past three weeks and was wondering if anyone had any new news on Ocean in Berkley. Place seems to be hit or miss on services, depending on who is available. I do miss Candy from earlier this year. TIA.

[QUOTE=Fasted2010;6084158]Been out of town past three weeks and was wondering if anyone had any new news on Ocean in Berkley. Place seems to be hit or miss on services, depending on who is available. I do miss Candy from earlier this year. TIA.[/QUOTE]Yes, Candi was for sure one of the very best I heard from Lilly (the Mama-son Manager) in July to tell me of a new arrival named Lulu who was working with Emma at that time, and then a couple weeks ago she texted me again to tell me of another new arrival (but I forgot her name) & she is now working with Lulu, so I'd say, Emma has moved on? I haven't seen either of the new ones, but of course, Lilly claimed there both young & beautiful? So, it's a crap shoot, good luck if you go, and give us a report if you do go?

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[QUOTE=Nknk789;6006306]Need help to find a very good massage place and reasonable price? No need extra. I mean a professional. Private location is ok. Thank.[/QUOTE]Spa on 12 and Van Dyke across from Walmart.

Excellent massage. Ask for Maggie.

Almost like chiropractor. She is into you being healthy (talker).

Massage so good didn't think about extras.

[QUOTE=CarmeloJoe35;6082197]So who is there these days? I suspect Lily is still there. And who else? I've never had a problem with up-selling. I always tip the same amount and leave very happy. With that said, I've not been there in a several months. Have they changed their MO?[/QUOTE]I was told that Lily left months ago.

Since everything is out with Liaa what's the point of holding back she is the type of girl where you have to build trust first my first two visits were just diy but could Roam, my third was BBBJ with swallow for 60 extra. She hasn't been answering for over a week tho no idea what's going on.

This is the name of an existing woman owned business on Walnut in downtown Mt. Clemens. Website has ten reviews. Massagebook has 100 reviews. Given the number of women customers, and being closed from 2pm Friday thru Monday at 10:00a, it sounds 100% legit

Looks like they are simply moving.

[QUOTE=JoeyKing;6072666]They do not have a name or sign yet. They share a parking lot with a state farm agency that can be accessed from both sides of Gratiot. It is about 2 blocks north of where SB Gratiot crosses the river.

As you travel south and pass Kibbee St. It is on your left just pass the used car place. Pull into parking lot for the insurance place. It is in a Grey building attached to larger Lighting store and faces north and is not easily visible while driving on Gratiot.[/QUOTE]

I live in Warren around 12 mile. Looking for recommendations and places to go for a massage with extras. I work midnights at the hospital and need to unwind away from home.

[QUOTE=SuperJason2;6086029]I was told that Lily left months ago.[/QUOTE]Decided to just go check it out. Walked in the other day and there she was. Fun as always.

[QUOTE=MotleyDirt;6086253]Since everything is out with Liaa what's the point of holding back she is the type of girl where you have to build trust first my first two visits were just diy but could Roam, my third was BBBJ with swallow for 60 extra. She hasn't been answering for over a week tho no idea what's going on.[/QUOTE]I hope the stories start to fly now. I'm sure everything will come out now.

[QUOTE=CarmeloJoe35;6086594]I hope the stories start to fly now. I'm sure everything will come out now.[/QUOTE]Be sure to check the post history of anyone reporting about Lia.

I was driving through Livonia yesterday and noticed a new ownership sign at Baked Bunz. Anyone inquired or stopped in recently? I loved going there before they jacked their prices through the roof (wasn't going to pay the $300-$400 they started asking for).

Stay safe!

She rotates through two or more shops owned by the same man. Try Accupressure at 13 & Mound.

[QUOTE=NumNuts;6084925]Spa on 12 and Van Dyke across from Walmart.

Excellent massage. Ask for Maggie.

Almost like chiropractor. She is into you being healthy (talker).

Massage so good didn't think about extras.[/QUOTE]